Why we don’t take CNN or Bill Nye seriously anymore: asteroid> meteor> global warming

Paul Westhaver writes in Tips and Notes:

CNN talking empty head (Feyerick) asks Bill Nye if approaching Meteor was a result of global warming…. but Bill’s response is oddly disquieting.

“Except it’s all science,” Nye said rescuing Feyerick. “The word meteorology and the word meteor come from the same root, so…”

Nye went on to discuss the asteroid which has missed impacting earth by 15 minutes. He says if this body were to impact over a populated area like New York City, that municipality would be completely leveled.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/02/10/CNN-Anchor-Asks-Bill-Nye-If-Global-Warming-caused-Near-Earth-Asteroid

It gets worse. Mumbles McGuirk adds in Tips and Notes:

[T]his Saturday MSNBC broadcast with Bill Nye explaining that GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’

Bill Nye explains the science of storms

Bill Nye “The Science Guy” joins MSNBC’s Craig Melvin to talk about how climate change contributed to this weekend’s blizzard in the Northeast.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50756384/#50756384

Gotta love the way Nye explains the Coriolis force.

We can only hope the stupid burns up in the atmosphere, either by re-entry or Global Warming.

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108 thoughts on “Why we don’t take CNN or Bill Nye seriously anymore: asteroid> meteor> global warming

  1. Does anybody realize how stupid society is becoming, or at least how stupid the “news” is? Society is being dumbed down, and the number of news reports that talk about “climate change” every time we have “weather” is a direct proxy to the reduction of national average IQ.

  2. “GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’”

    Oh my … I wonder if he thinks that storms (and I am assuming he is thinking NH cyclonic circulations ) currently spin clockwise (with a north being “up” frame of reference). Scary how much respect this guy gets from the media.

  3. Has the headline writer gotten “meteor” vs “meteorite” sorted out or is “meteor” what Bill Nye said? It is 5.00 am here and people are asleep. Playing video with sound is a ‘no-no’.

  4. I firmly believe that, without a scientific foundation or decent education, more and more of these people will show up, and then every imagination will be valid.

    Perhaps cAGW will cause the parallel universes to coalesce, and storms will enter in from that nether dimension.

    Maybe Romulans and Kardassians (related to the Kardashians?—the names are too similar to rule out) will enter from the neutral zone of the future?

    Reality and fantasy are merging…”Major Tom calling ground control!”

  5. [T]his Saturday MSNBC broadcast with Bill Nye explaining that GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’

    does Gore know this?………………..snark

  6. When asked the question he says “no no” over her, it’s not clear. But he’s definitely not suggesting what this post implies.

  7. This exchange pretty much confirms that Bill Nye’s role as contributor to CNN is to support whatever globalist agenda CNN is peddling (as per Ted Turner) as opposed to providing objective independent scientific insight. The normal reaction would have been to immediately dismiss what Feyerick implied as nonsense, but Nye knows he is a ‘tool’ of CNN, so disagreeing with the presenter was not something that would come naturally to him.

    Marc Morano eviscerated Nye on Piers Morgan back in Dec-2012, and that was despite Morano quite clearly being one against two in that debate.

    The integrity of CNN is the main issue that I am concerned with, as opposed to Bill Nye, as he is just one contributor. There has been a recent trend of becoming increasingly brazen in their advocacy, as opposed to at least trying to give the impression that they are impartial presenters and “moderators” of debates.

  8. When Joe Bastardi is in the mood to clown around at WeatherBELL, he does a forecast with his blood-pressure cuff on. Someone ought have him watch the Bill Nye MSNBC clip wearing that blood-pressure cuff. The gizmo would likely explode. Also the incredulous expressions on Joe’s face would be priceless.

  9. “Nye went on to discuss the asteroid which has missed impacting earth by 15 minutes.”

    We’re very lucky. If we had just a little more CO2 in the air, we’d have been hit. As you may know, carbon dioxide creates a kind of ‘super gravity’ whenever it gets above 350 ppm concentrations. This super gravity is especially powerful on rocks in vacuums. It’s all very technical. Don’t bother looking it up. Frankly, I’m amazed didn’t hit us.

  10. I learned way back in grade school in the 1960′s why storms spin counter-clockwise. I guess Bill must have been out sick when that was explained in his school.

    I’m coming to the conclusion that believing in AGW causes a drop in intelligence.

  11. Hahahahaha.
    A least he doesn’t pretend to be a surgeon. As for the anchor, I presume this is the only employment she could find. The rest required actual brains.

  12. This isn’t the only reason we don’t take Bill Nye serious anymore. He has been suffering from malignant dumbness for quite some time now.

  13. This reminds me of the physicist who was asked why the water level in a toilet moved up and down when the wind blew. He credited that motion to the wind whipping around the water tower and causing pressure variations. He did retire 6 months later.

  14. Primitive cultures would often ascribe natural events to human behavior. The Gods were said to be angry. The effect of this sort or rhetoric was to give the political class and the high priests control over the society. The population believed that the high priests knew what would keep the gods happy, and by extension, keep them safe. So the propulsion would go along with whatever the priests said to do. If that meant sacrificing a virgin, then do be it.

    The Global Warming hysteria is leading us back to primitivism, with guys like Bill Nye and Al Gore claimg to be the high priests.

  15. How can she even come up with the question?
    Surely no one in the US is going to take this seriously, are they?
    Oh dear.

  16. He can’t even get numbers and units right when he’s talking about the area decimated by such a meteor… in both videos. 2000 square km equals 1200 square miles in the CNN video and 200 square km equals 1200 square miles in the NBC video. Brilliant. He can’t even get simple numbers and unit conversions right, but we’re supposed to believe what he’s saying. Anybody with any background in science can see right through this, but the anchor and most of the public just eat it up.

  17. Nye is just another unwitting acolyte and dangerous spokesman for the CAGWs: Catastrophic Anthropogenic Genocidal Warmistas.

    May he someday come to a full recognition of his facinorous cult.

  18. Latitude says:
    February 11, 2013 at 8:07 am

    [T]his Saturday MSNBC broadcast with Bill Nye explaining that GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’

    does Gore know this?………………..snark

    Haven’t you heard? Gore invented it. And he was the first to publish proof on the cover of his book.
    /sarc

  19. I know this is off topic, mea culpa, I plead “slowness”.

    About five posts ago there was a post “Has Global Warming Stalled?” It presented a graph showing temperatures and the concentration of atmospheric CO2. The graph showed that CO2 varies about 10 parts in 400 each year. If I haven’t messed up my calculations, that implies a time constant of something like ten years. That seems to mean that, if we quit emitting CO2 now, the anthropogenic contribution would be scrubbed from the atmosphere in about fifty years.

    Why does this matter? The warmists rely on a very long residence time for CO2 to bolster their case that the increase in atmospheric CO2 is anthropogenic. They say that the natural sources and sinks of CO2 balance and that anthropogenic CO2 enters the atmosphere and stays there. Their accounts don’t work if you take a shorter residence time.

    One of the skeptical arguments is that CO2 levels follow temperature changes rather than being their cause. It seems to me that, if CO2 has a short residence time, it is good evidence for that case. In other words, anthropogenic CO2 is taken up reasonably quickly and the increase in CO2 is likely due to natural causes.

    Am I missing something?

  20. I laughed when I heard this but quickly realized that as an un testable hypothesis, it is no worse than all the other ridiculous ideas about CO2 and GW that are currently driving national energy and enviormenmental policy.

  21. Latitude says:
    February 11, 2013 at 8:07 am
    [T]his Saturday MSNBC broadcast with Bill Nye explaining that GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’

    does Gore know this?………………..snark

    Apparently not. See the poster from “An Inconvenient Truth.” Clockwise hurricane.

  22. Latitude says: does Gore know this?………………..snark

    Why soytenlee! He invented the Coriolis effect.

  23. Bubbagyro
    “Kardassians (related to the Kardashians?—the names are too similar to rule out)”

    Too funny! :)

  24. Isnt Bill Nye the chief of the vampires in Undrrworld, and the old bloke in Four Weddings and A Funeral.

    Nah, cant be, even actors arent that thick.

  25. The only mistake Bill Nye makes in the video is he says meteor when he means asteroid….the woman is over talking non-stop rubbish about something, of which she has no knowledge or understanding.

  26. He’s gotten a lot of mileage off the ‘Science Guy’ character. He invented that character during his stand-up comedy days here in Seattle. Why people started taking it seriously is one of the great mysteries of the world. Nice to see he’s still doing stand-up comedy, though.

  27. As I’d stated previously–I knew Al Gore was full of bovine excrement when the movie poster/book cover for An Inconvenient Truth had NH storms spinning the wrong way. Ugh.

  28. Oh, come on. Sure, he’s an alarmist twit, but give the Nye guy a break here. He can’t tell the difference between evidence and wishful thinking, but he’s neither ignorant nor stupid.

    Deborah Feyerick is obviously out of her depth talking about anything except celebrity gossip, and Nye graciously didn’t mention her stupidity and gallantly tried to disguise her amazing ignorance. You gotta admit, coming up with the meteor-meteorology etymological connection on the spur of the moment wasn’t bad.

    I ain’t that gallant. I’d have channelled my inner Ackroyd with a “Deborah, you ignorant…” I also wouldn’t have been invited back.

  29. That goofball Nye is one of the biggest proponents of agw. More troublesome is that the loudest agitators in congress in support for the theory are all extreme leftists, like MA congressman Ed Markey.
    What does this extreme leftism have to do the science? I’ll tell you: nothing. It just so happens that all the leftist nutballs have got fully on board the agw bandwagon because, as Spike Lee would say, “it’s the right thing to do.” The “science,” and yes, surprise, the climate, has absolutely nothing to do with it. Oh yeah, a couple of supportive quotes for this:
    “We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing …” -leftist Senator Tim Wirth, 1993
    “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” -C. Stewart, Canadian Minister of the Environment
    “A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect.” -Richard Benedik, U.N. / U.S. Bureaucrat
    … etc
    Climate “Science” is a leftist driven thing.
    Make that clear. Expose the politics of the agw proponents.
    And the media is “stocked” with leftist agw advocates. Educated leftists. Journalists by and large subscribe to the ex-Senator Wirth’s idea. It is “the right thing to do,” they think, to push agw regardless of any scientific validity. Furthermore, they are not going to dig deep (like, for example, read skeptic blogs) into anything that may cause them to question the science.
    Our job is two-fold. In the short term, educate the public as best we can on the MSM menace on this issue. Also, start thinking about changing the way students are educated in college. Get down to the roots, or start some kind of penetrating conversations that get the young elites to start thinking differently about agw, and / or other issues.

  30. Connect the dots.

    Meteor…Meterology…Weather…Global Warming.

    Sometimes I’m embarassed beyonds word to admit that I’m the same species as these people.

  31. After recording this clip, he should have watched it, taken notes, and recorded it again, but the second time, coherently.

  32. these things are silly.

    want to know what the local weathermen/woman called this storm?

    a CLASSIC nor’easter, as in they learned about this type of weather pattern,,,in college.
    storm dumped only 26″ on my city officially, took me a few hrs to clean up.

  33. Han Solo, in A New Hope, brags that the Falcon made the Kessel Run in “less than twelve parsecs”. This is a unit of distance, not time. Oops.

    Bill Nye fancies himself as someone who can explain science. So does putting the near collision of this asteroid 2012 DA14 and earth in terms of “time”, “fifteen minutes!”, help to understand how close it came? Not really since it’s ambiguous. Fifteen minutes for which object? The Earth? The asteroid 2012 DA14? Both? Seven and half minutes for both? So instead of making it easier to understand Bill Nye just confuses the issue.

    As for whether or not this asteroid has anything to do with Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, that’s so stupid it burns. The only way this asteroid could possibly affect the climate of Earth is if is smacked into us, and then only briefly would it have an impact on the climate.

    Move along, nothing to see other than: http://www.plognark.com/Art/Sketches/Blogsketches/2008/thestupiditburns.jpg.

  34. Bill who??
    And CNN – isn’t that a telegraph company?

    But seriously, even the writers at SNL wouldn’t think-up this stuff.

  35. Great! The uninformed masses get their science information from a comedian with a degree in mechanical engineering.

  36. CNN talking empty head (Feyerick) asks Bill Nye if approaching Meteor was a result of global warming

    So was she taking the p*ss and implying that since every other ‘disaster’ is due to AGW, this must be too? If so, cool.

    Or was she pretending to be the dumb blond for entertainment? If so, shame on her.

    Or is she genuinely so thick that the question was serious? If so, sack her.

  37. Saw the first clip over the weekend – dumb questions coupled with transmission lags do not lead to informative conversations. In a sense I felt sorry for Bill Nye – but only a little bit.
    Then I watched the 2nd clip. Frankly, the man is a menace. He confuses people. A depression will always produce nor-easters and sou-westers (plus sou-easters and nor-westers) relative to where the observer and the eye of the depression are. How many NBC viewers understand cyclones and anti-cyclones?
    Why scare the beejazus out of people by discussing catastrophic impacts, when he knows (and states) that the asteroid is going to miss? Why the reference to geostationary satellites, thus soliciting the ‘Oh!’ response from the desk-dork whose income depends upon 24/7 coverage?
    “Is this caused by global warming”? “No, the asteroid exists far beyond Earth’s atmosphere”.
    “Should we be worried”? “No”.
    “Nothing to see here – move on”.
    I am far from happy with the UK Met Office and the BBC, but I am really glad I am not bombarded with expert opinions suitable for sub-sub average IQ viewers. We’re lucky, we just get the sub-average IQ stuff.

  38. bubbagyro says:
    February 11, 2013 at 8:17 am
    Liberal Skeptic:
    Even your post is confused and convoluted. What are you saying?

    I was referring to the opening line of the post.

    “Paul Westhaver writes in Tips and Notes: CNN talking empty head (Feyerick) asks Bill Nye if approaching Meteor was a result of global warming…. but Bill’s response is oddly disquieting.”

    His response is to say “no,no” and explain that meteorology and meteors are linked only by a similar name and then moves on. Presumably seeing the blank look on the presenters face.
    There’s nothing disquieting and response and this whole post has an undercurrent of implying Bill Nye actually agreed with that comment. He clearly didn’t.

    I can’t comment on the rest of Bill Nyes comments, I know nothing about weather, only the English language and computers.

  39. He appears to blame the Coriolis effect on global warming. I doubt that is what he meant, but his whole fame is as a communicator of science, and to make such imprecise or even dubious statements as he did is not good communication at all. That is even without considering whether he is right about CAGW – or the utter dishonesty of the experiment he was involved in to demonstrate the greenhouse effect of CO2, which did nothing of the sort.

  40. Joseph E Postma says:
    February 11, 2013 at 7:58 am
    “Does anybody realize how stupid society is becoming, or at least how stupid the “news” is?”

    My theory is that TV does not only make the viewer dumber but also the TV persons themselves; it works in both directions. Probably because the TV people love watching TV themselves, whether their own shows or shows of colleagues.

  41. DirkH says:
    February 11, 2013 at 10:09 am
    Joseph E Postma says:
    February 11, 2013 at 7:58 am
    “Does anybody realize how stupid society is becoming, or at least how stupid the “news” is?”

    My theory is that TV does not only make the viewer dumber but also the TV persons themselves; it works in both directions. Probably because the TV people love watching TV themselves, whether their own shows or shows of colleagues.

    I don’t think it has anything to do with the news or TV. That is just a symptom of a wider problem. All Western Society, but I’m noticing USA in particular has a real problem with anti-intellectualism. It’s considered perfectly acceptable not to have any critical thinking skills and know very little and show very little interest in even basic science.

  42. Global warming will also reverse the quantum spin of electrons. Hell, it will turn “up” quarks to “down.” Not to mention “top” to “bottom.” Right? Uh…

  43. <i<Joseph E Postma says, February 11, 2013 at 7:58 am: "Does anybody realize how stupid society is becoming, or at least how stupid the “news” is?"
    ==========================================================

    Joseph, calling people who have been misled by scientists, press and politicians “stupid” is not right and is counterproductive.

  44. Maybe we should analyze her comment using “blond logic”: If a hot blond can attract male satellites, why couldn’t a hot planet attract asteroids?

  45. Re:
    Jeff L says:
    February 11, 2013 at 8:04 am

    “GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’”

    That’s not a fair paraphrase of what Bill Nye says.

    What he said at 2.12 is:
    “….This could be the future everybody, this could be the new normal with all the extra heat energy that’s in the atmosphere, with climate change…”

    He’s not a stupid man. We might disagree about whether there is more heat energy in the atmosphere, but he didn’t just suggest that Northern hemisphere storms will reverse direction from now onwards.

  46. Eric Simpson says: Also, start thinking about changing the way students are educated in college. Get down to the roots, or start some kind of penetrating conversations that get the young elites to start thinking differently about agw, and / or other issues.

    ————

    Too late Eric – the education system is fully indoctrinated in Marxist beliefs. It goes way back and there is almost no way to change it short of scrapping the entire system and terminating the employment of every teacher, principal and education bureaucratic. Here’s an example of training teachers to use Alsinky’s version of the Marxist Delphi Technique for alienating anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda, marginalizing dissenting parents, and effecting a left-wing take over of the schools.

    http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/roa018.htm

    They are out in the open about their Marxist agenda, just check out conferences today like this:

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/11/northwestern-u-marxism-conference-packed-with-teachers/

    And when it comes to climate change specifically check out the garbage like this:

    http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13224

    http://www.unesco.org/new/en/education/themes/leading-the-international-agenda/climate-change-education/

    http://ncse.com/climate/climate-change-101/what-can-we-do

    It is endless and comes from everywhere in the education community as well as the activist NGOs.

  47. A dumb as a bag of rocks news anchor,,,ok. But the “science guy’s” response to her question is absolutely shocking. HE DOESN’T DENY that the asteroid that will fly by us on Friday was caused by global warming. He says a lot of words and tap dances around her question, but doesn’t say no, it wasn’t caused by global warming. Absolutely astounding. And he is the medias go-to guy on science questions.

  48. CNN and Bill Nye would have been better off consulting Wikipedia as it has a good straightforward description and image graphic of the orbit near Earth:

    “2012 DA14 is a near-Earth asteroid with an estimated diameter of about 50 meters (160 ft) and an estimated mass of about 180,000 metric tons.[4] It was discovered on February 23, 2012, by the OAM Observatory, La Sagra in Spain (J75)[1] seven days after passing 0.0174 AU (2,600,000 km; 1,620,000 mi) from Earth on February 16.[3] Calculations show that on February 15, 2013, the distance between the asteroid and the center-point of Earth will be 0.000228 AU (34,100 km; 21,200 mi).[3] The asteroid will pass 27,700 km (17,200 mi) from the surface of Earth.[2] The 2013 passage of 2012 DA14 by Earth is a record close approach for a known object of this size.[2]”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_DA14

  49. The Question asked by the air-head Feyerick: “Is the asteroid, 2012 DA14, coming our way an effect of global warming?” shouldn’t be addressed to “The “Sciency Guy Bill Nye”; the question should be addressed to our good friends Seth D. Baum and Jacob D. Haqq-Misra of Penn State University and Shawn D. Domagal-Goldman of NASA. As you may recall, these gentlemen warned us (Precautionary Principle Memo – ready for transmission Posted on August 30, 2011 by Anthony Watts http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/30/precautionary-principle-memo-ready-for-transmission/) about transmitting false statements (especially false statements about global warming) to space lest Ecosystem-Valuing Universalist Extraterrestrial Intelligence (EVUETI) get pissed off and do us harm. Why do I think Baum’s, Haqq-Misra’s and Domagal-Goldman’s answer to the above asteroid question just might be: “The asteroid is a warning shot fired across our bow by EVUETIs. Next time they won’t miss.”

  50. Yes, Greg many of us do realize it and there’s nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade, sorry for anyone who thinks its wrong but that’s their particular private value system, not mine. It’s correct and needed, imo. Understanding the stupidity of the public, and the malice of the propagandists is the first step towards wisdom.

  51. Bill Nye forgot to mention that this variant of asteroid is “heat seeking”. Now that we’re clear on that, it is obvious why global warming would lead to an asteroid strike. Come on people – get up to date on the science!

  52. Richard Carlson, he very much does deny it when says “no, no” immediately after she says it. Nye is guilty of many things and over simplifying to the point of being wrong on many occasions. But he did not at any point agree with the suggestion that global warming caused an asteroid.

  53. OFFICIAL

    Climate Change is cause a massive decrease in average male penis .
    Sorry Ladies its on the internet so must be true.And if you rationally question it your a Denier.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/09…shrinking/

    A Italian study though not directly linking Climate Change does mention Smoking Alcohol Obesity and stress and most importantly Air Pollution so that’s Defiantly Climate Change then .So humans are to blame. Tut Tut

  54. This is sorta-kinda on topic and off – more about the US edjumacation system then Nye’s attempts (if you can call them that) at science.

    A couple of days ago the Education Director for New York State was testifying before a congressional committee. In his remarks he used the word “Incentivised”. Used in a sentence it would be “We need teachers to be incentivised.”

    With leaders like this, is it any wonder our schools are producing unthinking graduates? I thought I was taught in an authoritarian climate, yet at the proper time (high school I think) a gifted teacher taught the class to question statements by allowing his pronouncements to be questioned. Most were true, but some were balderdash (we couldn’t use the other BS word in class).

    Seems these days few learn to question those in authority.

    Mike

  55. I quit my membership in the Planetary Society years ago because of Bill Nye. As long as he’s there I won’t be…

  56. Liberal Skeptic says:
    I don’t think it has anything to do with the news or TV. That is just a symptom of a wider problem. All Western Society, but I’m noticing USA in particular has a real problem with anti-intellectualism. It’s considered perfectly acceptable not to have any critical thinking skills and know very little and show very little interest in even basic science.

    Greg House says:
    Joseph, calling people who have been misled by scientists, press and politicians “stupid” is not right and is counterproductive.

    Anti-intellectualism is not really a good proxy for the source of stupidity – it is a result, obviously. It isn’t even about interest in science, as many people are seemingly interested in science but they’re too stupid to detect the fraud of climate change alarm; so again, there must be another actual cause. Part of that cause is the liberal mentality, or at least, the liberal mentality is highly associated with the type of stupidity that leads to belief in climate alarm, or which might have a difficult time distinguishing causes from effects. Greg makes the point about stupidity, and I agree people can’t be blamed for being tricked, up to a point.

    They CAN be blamed for choosing to continue to believe in a morally degenerate and pseudoscientific fraud once they’ve been exposed to the truth countless times. They CAN be blamed for supporting policies and holding a philosophy of human life and society which is anti-human and which harms people, and which is debasing in its essence towards human existence. They CAN be blamed for not understanding what it takes to keep them alive, and for supporting policies which would remove the support of their very own lives. They CAN be blamed for supporting population reduction while imagining that because they support this, it won’t apply to them, etc.

    And the point about stupidity is also the fact that the news is literally more stupid, as some form of a feedback mechanism as someone suggested. Stupidity is a real thing in the world, it actually exists, and there should be nothing wrong with pointing it out as helpful criticism.

    For example, take this conversation with a liberal.
    Real person to Liberal: “It is stupid to kill yourself.”
    Liberal: “Don’t call me stupid.”

    See? There’s no rationality there. They won’t discuss the actual science or the actual logic of killing yourself or holding a philosophy which is antithetical to human progress; they’ll just change the conversation to how it makes them feel. That is: “Even if it is wrong, it is right.” “Yes, but, it isn’t right, it is stupid, and it will kill you.” “Don’t call me stupid.”

  57. Martin Audley- Yes, he is a stupid man. He may have a decent IQ, and a degree but that doesn’t define stupidity, which does not mean lack of intellect.
    It’s when someone purposely sticks to a fallacious argument for a reason based upon dogma and self interest for purposes of this discussion. He is taking the side of ignorance when he claims that there is somehow a way for climate to go off the rails and diverge from its cyclic nature. That is stupid or worse, malicious. But in fact, Nye should be hit in the face with a blueberry pie while on TV, that would be entertaining.:]

  58. While I’m thinking about it…can we finally get rid of CNN at our airports?? Broadcasting CNN “news” on TV sets at the gates is just an annoying waste of money and electricity (thank goodness I have an iPod to drown the the inane dribble coming from the CNN “news” personalities…).

  59. Martin Audley says:
    February 11, 2013 at 10:44 am
    Re: Jeff L says:
    February 11, 2013 at 8:04 am

    “GW will cause storms to spin counter-clockwise in the ‘new normal.’”

    That’s not a fair paraphrase of what Bill Nye says.

    What he said at 2.12 is:
    “….This could be the future everybody, this could be the new normal with all the extra heat energy that’s in the atmosphere, with climate change…”

    He’s not a stupid man. We might disagree about whether there is more heat energy in the atmosphere, but he didn’t just suggest that Northern hemisphere storms will reverse direction from now onwards.
    ———————————————————————————————————————-
    I don’t think that was his *intent*, but his answer was so muddle-mouthed that any poorly informed viewer (aka the CNN audience) could easily misinterpret it that way. He jumps from talking about the Coriolis effect and how big the storm was to his ‘new normal’ statement. It seems as if he is describing some new phenomena that wasn’t part of the old normal. Try watching the segment again, but this time with you beer goggles on to simulate what the average CNN viewer would see and hear. ;)

  60. @Wamron – I think you’re thinking of Bill Nighy. Understandable, though, as his name is pronounced identically to the other feller’s. Nighy is rather popular with the ladies, Nye doesn’t seem that popular with anyone, that’s the main difference. ;-)

  61. Liberal Skeptic:
    His response is to say “no,no” and explain that meteorology and meteors are linked only by a similar name and then moves on. Presumably seeing the blank look on the presenters face.
    There’s nothing disquieting and response and this whole post has an undercurrent of implying Bill Nye actually agreed with that comment. He clearly didn’t.
    ————————————————-
    Nye may have been disagreeing with the airhead but I played the video five times and could not detect that. I did not hear the “no,no”. Later she went on to referr to a “meteor” again. I don’t see apparent disagreement. If she said monkeys flew out of her asteroid, Nye would probably agree. It’s all science.

  62. pwl says (February 11, 2013 at 9:41 am): “Han Solo, in A New Hope, brags that the Falcon made the Kessel Run in “less than twelve parsecs”. This is a unit of distance, not time. Oops.”

    No, no! A parsec is about 3.26 light years, and as we all know, both light years and dog years are longer than regular years. And of course ridiculous years are longer than light years, and ludicrous years are the longest of all!

    “Bill Nye fancies himself as someone who can explain science. So does putting the near collision of this asteroid 2012 DA14 and earth in terms of “time”, “fifteen minutes!”, help to understand how close it came? Not really since it’s ambiguous.”

    Exactly. There’s a much better way to put it:

  63. Billy says:
    Nye may have been disagreeing with the airhead but I played the video five times and could not detect that. I did not hear the “no,no”. Later she went on to refer to a “meteor” again. I don’t see apparent disagreement. If she said monkeys flew out of her asteroid, Nye would probably agree. It’s all science.
    ______________

    You know, honestly, you almost have to conclude that they’re doing things like this ON PURPOSE, either 1) to make fools of the climate alarm people, hoping people will catch on, or 2) as a gauge to see how stupid people have become and what they’ll accept, a sort of “propaganda effectiveness evaluation”.

  64. Poor Stupid Bill Nye the Science Abusing Guy.

    The real answer to Feyerick’s direct question is ” No. There is no relationship between global warming and a meteor approaching earth.” Instead he leaps to a strange linguistics conflation between meteor and meterology after declaring that global warming is “science” on the same footing as Newtonian mechanics. He is so consumed by hype that he can’t allow the hype-mitigating discourse of fact and reason to diminish his fear mongering. He later says to not to be nervous about a 17,000 mile miss, while he advises us to be very nervous of a meteor not yet in evidence. Typical.

    That is the most disquieting aspect of this latest episode of Nye’s abuse-of-science-for-hype. It is like his irrational call to action for AGW. He wants us to be afraid of things that don’t exist. He says it at time stamp 1:12. “Get nervous, but not about his one.”

    What are we to “Get Nervous” about Bill? A thing that doesn’t exist?

    Typical Nye hype.

  65. Billy says:
    February 11, 2013 at 11:47 am
    Liberal Skeptic:
    His response is to say “no,no

    ” and explain that meteorology and meteors are linked only by a similar name and then moves on. Presumably seeing the blank look on the presenters face.
    There’s nothing disquieting and response and this whole post has an undercurrent of implying Bill Nye actually agreed with that comment. He clearly didn’t.
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    Nye may have been disagreeing with the airhead but I played the video five times and could not detect that. I did not hear the “no,no”. Later she went on to referr to a “meteor” again. I don’t see apparent disagreement. If she said monkeys flew out of her asteroid, Nye would probably agree. It’s all science.

    Then no offense Billy, you need to listen again. As soon as she says it he speaks over her “no, no”

    I am wearing head phones, perhaps that will assist.

  66. DirkH says:
    February 11, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Joseph E Postma says:
    February 11, 2013 at 7:58 am
    “Does anybody realize how stupid society is becoming, or at least how stupid the “news” is?”

    My theory is that TV does not only make the viewer dumber but also the TV persons themselves; it works in both directions. Probably because the TV people love watching TV themselves, whether their own shows or shows of colleagues.

    As usual, H. L. Mencken has the last word:

    “A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier.”

  67. pwl says:

    February 11, 2013 at 10:46 am
    “The 2013 passage of 2012 DA14 by Earth is a record close approach for a known object of this size.[2]”

    pwl the quote from the wiki page uses the word “is” for the record. It has not happened yet so it cannot be an “is” record it can be a “will be” record. I guess Connelley(sp) did the edit on this.

  68. I guess Bill Nye has credibility among people in my children’s generation, now 30-40 years old, because they grew up with him. I thought he was fine talking about simple scientific principles, but I never saw him as an expert about anything. It’s too bad he has taken on the mantle of AGW defender. He is being used by people who are a lot smarter than he is. He looks a little tragic at this point. I feel sorry for him.

    Would it help if he lost the bowtie?

  69. Liberal Skeptic says:
    February 11, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Then no offense Billy, you need to listen again. As soon as she says it he speaks over her “no, no”
    I am wearing head phones, perhaps that will assist.
    ———————
    Sorry, I listened several more times and all I hear is mumbling. Bill Nye is a career talking head. If I can’t understand what he says the first time that is his problem, not mine. I am not going to use an osilloscope or forensic voice analysis to listen to CNN.

  70. Ed Fix says February 11, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Oh, come on. Sure, he’s an alarmist twit, but give the Nye guy a break here. He can’t tell the difference between evidence and wishful thinking, but he’s neither ignorant nor stupid….

    ‘Over the hill’ as in senile (literally: exhibiting senility) does come to mind, however.

    .

  71. kevin says:
    February 11, 2013 at 8:21 am

    We’re very lucky. If we had just a little more CO2 in the air, we’d have been hit. As you may know, carbon dioxide creates a kind of ‘super gravity’ whenever it gets above 350 ppm concentrations. This super gravity is especially powerful on rocks in vacuums. It’s all very technical. Don’t bother looking it up. Frankly, I’m amazed didn’t hit us.

    It hasn’t gone by us yet. Everyone! Hold your breath until Friday!

    From http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/190248881.html :

    Close flyby of asteroid 2012 DA14. This gymnasium-sized asteroid will miss Earth by just 18,000 miles (28,500 km) around 19:25 Universal Time today [Friday]. It will then be as bright as 8th magnitude, moving across the stars by 0.8° per minute — and it will be in nighttime view from easternmost Europe (in late evening) across Asia to Australia (before dawn on the 16th local date).

  72. Claim in video by Nye:

    2012 DA14 “… was discovered with a grant provided by the Planetary Society … ”

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    Per: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/asteroidflyby.html

    Q: Who discovered asteroid DA14?

    A: “Asteroid 2012 DA14 was discovered by the La Sagra Sky Survey operated by the Astronomical Observatory of Mallorca in Spain on Feb. 23, 2012. ”

    “The asteroid was about 2.7 million miles (4.3 million kilometers) distant when it was detected.

    Their observations were reported to the NASA funded Minor Planet Center, operated by the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory for the International Astronomical Union, where all observations from observatories worldwide are combined to maintain the database on all known asteroids and comets in our solar system.”

    - – - – - –

    “Observatorio Astronómico de Mallorca” (English: Astronomical Observatory of Mallorca)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observatorio_Astron%C3%B3mico_de_Mallorca

    Observatorio Astronómico de Mallorca website with the February 22, 2012 announcement of asteroid “2012 DA14″ -

    http://www.oam.es/

    - – - – - –

    From: http://www.planetary.org/explore/projects/neo-grants/

    “Since founding the grant program in 1997, The Planetary Society has awarded 38 Shoemaker NEO grants totaling more than $235,000 to observers from 16 different countries on 5 continents.”

    Comment:

    Get that? Over 235,000 dollars over 15 years works out to 15,666 dollars a year.
    - – - – - –

    Can’t seem to find anything specifically linking the Planetary Society and involvement with “Observatorio Astronómico de Mallorca” of Spain regarding the discovery of 2012 DA14

    List of past Grant recipients:

    http://www.planetary.org/explore/projects/neo-grants/grant-recipients/

    Listings with reference to Spain recipients:

    2010: Jaime Nomen of Spain, of the “La Sagra Observatory” [sic] and the La Sagra Sky Survey (LSSS) on the Spanish island of Mallorca. No mention of the amount.

    Note: The “La Sagra Observatory” looks to be conflated with the observatory as it is actually the “La Sagra Sky Survey” operated by the “Astronomical Observatory of Mallorca” in Spain. See NASA link in this post above as well as the LSSS link just below.

    La Sagra Sky Survey website – http://www.lasagraskysurvey.org/

    .

  73. I stopped taking CNN seriously after the first gulf war when they admitted to letting Saddam Hussian censor their broadcasts. Liars then, liars now.

  74. @ Bill

    I listened to it several times again, also, and did not hear/make out a “no,no.” He said something just as she was saying “meteoric event.” But I couldn’t make out what he said as he said it while she was still talking. Perhaps he was saying no to it being a meteor, because at that point he starts talking about the origins of the words meteor and meterololgy.

  75. Bill Nye sent me a letter a few months ago, asking me to rejoin The Planetary Society. Apparently someone made him president of the society. I wonder how many other people decided not to rejoin because of this mistake. Sad.

  76. The truth of this is that Feyerick, the CNN Bimbo in residence and chief Twit asked such a stupid question that Nye had to mumble a nonsequiter just to get out of an embarrassing moment. Westerhaven should have been looking more carefully at what was actually happening instead of misleading all of us about what Nye meant. We must realize that the news readers are morons, just on screen ‘talent’. Most of them couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time.

  77. Richard Carlson says:
    February 11, 2013 at 5:22 pm
    @ Bill

    I listened to it several times again, also, and did not hear/make out a “no,no.” He said something just as she was saying “meteoric event.” But I couldn’t make out what he said as he said it while she was still talking. Perhaps he was saying no to it being a meteor, because at that point he starts talking about the origins of the words meteor and meterololgy.

    At 13 seconds, after he’s processed the stupid comment he speaks over her and says “no,no”. You can interpret that as mumbling if you want, but it’s clear to my ears.

  78. Years ago Bill Nye Had His own show, or segment to someone else’s show. I can’t recall. His sidekick at the time was Soledad O’brien. Somewhere now she’s a news anchor. She is a Major AGW mouthpiece.

  79. Interesting that he mentions the Tunguska, Siberia event in 1908. That is when the 20th century warming started – as well as the reversal of the direction of change that the north magnetic pole was traveling as it is now heading to Tunguska. Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences proposed that this event started the global warming.
    See: http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/Tunguska.htm

  80. Tough day to be Bill Nye……His shame should be pretty unbearable now.

    Before his Near-Miss…doomsday prediction and after which he advises we should get nervous, out of the blue … bam…. a meteorite whacks Russia. 1000 people get hurt….and Bill never saw it coming… nobody did. We were too busy watching the Bill’s red-herring in the wrong direction. Seems fitting. Doom-Sayers….. looking the wrong way.

    Was I nervous? No, absolutely not! Poor Bill the Science abuser would have been under a chair wringing his hands had he knew the unknowable.

    Bill needs Prozac.

    Incidentally, that Russian meteorite did more damage than the myth of AGW ever did.

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