Chris Horner writes in with this. This is pretty funny. It is window into their possibly half-joking, still overly earnest view of their historical importance in choosing a gift for Susan Solomon.
It lends credence to the view that they think they are heroes, saving the world. From the University of Arizona Overpeck FOI production #1 pp 94-95:
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:03:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Gift for Susan?
From: “Kevin E Trenberth” <trenbert@ucar.edu>
To: hegerl@duke.edu Cc: “Richard Somerville” , herve.letreut@lmd.jussieu.fr, v.ramaswamy@noaa.gov, “Piers Forster” , peter.lemke@awi.de, “Nathan Bindoff” , jto@u.arizona.edu, eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no, “Ken Denman”, “Phil Jones”, brasseur@ucar.edu, randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu, richard.wood@metoffice.gov.uk, francis.zwiers@ec.gc.ca, meehl@ucar.edu, stocker@climate.unibe.ch, “Bruce Hewitson”
Hi all
The way these have gone in the past is that the CLAs and invited scientists get together and produce a draft revised SPM in response to the comments, so that there is already proposed revised wording. We are alone the first two days and the opportunity to do something like this comes at the end of this, long before we know the final outcome.
The previous meetings have become drawn out and tense, with no breaks and over-running the time alloted for translation. It seems likely that the meeting will occupy all the time allotted and more, no matter that an extra day has been allocated.
I feel sure that the best gift for Susan and the TSU is a successful meeting and an acceptable SPM and accepted report. The kudos will then surely follow. And you all have some control over that by doing your homework.
It seems to me that we should indeed have an award ceremony though and Rocky Mountain chocolates would be most appropriate rather than a tacky plaque. Maybe a card signed by all would be more valued. Who knows it might be valuable in the future?
Happy New Year
Kevin
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Here’s a possible card they could circulate, I think when the next ice age starts to set in, it would indeed be worth something with all those signatures.
With apologies to Jerry Hish
They’re on a mission from Gahd.
ar·ro·gant (r-gnt)
adj.
1. Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.
2. Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one’s superiority toward others: an arrogant contempt for the weak. See Synonyms at proud.
[Middle English arrogaunt, from Old French, from Latin arrogns, arrogant-, present participle of arrogre, to arrogate; see arrogate.]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?word=arrogant
Actually the answer is fairly obvious – let everyone write what they believe to be the best present and then Kevin announces his own choice anyway in the summary. A back scratcher perhaps?
Dear Kev,
thanks for the tacky plaque, the rocky mountain chocolate and the fantastic signed card. I have traded them in on e-bay for five carbon credits, which may be worth two cents now, but will be worth billions once the proles start to self combust and realise that we were right all along
Sue
So there was really nothing interesting in the e-mails then?
Her perfect gift would be a brain.
Or at least a common sense enema.
Anything that would give her gift of thinking clearly.
Rocky Mountain chocolates…hmm
Is that what you get when you combine Rocky Mountain Oysters and Mountain Bars?
I think the statement “the kudos will surely follow” says all that needs to be said about hubris and about inability to learn from general kudos for AGW-votaries never having arisen in the first place.
I dunno about the card but the emails are priceless.
There is actually a market for warmist autographs (Castro, Manson, UNA-bomber). If these guys manage to wreck the western civilization, their autographs will probably be worth a bag of bullshit.
This should go well with the card, a Climate Carol from years gone by…
Let It Snow
Oh, the weather outside is frightful,
But our fraud is so delightful,
So off to Cancun we’ll go,
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
We have no plans for stopping,
And your cash we’ll soon be copping;
The curly lights really blow,
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
When we’ve given you a good fright,
About some drought or a storm;
And if we get our way you might,
Not be able to keep yourself warm.
The fraud is slowly dying,
And, my dear, we’re all still lying,
But as long as we’re in Mexico.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
Staggering arrogance from a staggering arrogant man…expected really
I don’t know John. I was just over at Bishop Hill and the innapropraiate activism that these ‘scientists’ engage in as shown by the emails shows the truth behind their efforts – and it’s not science. But then again you may disagree…
Michael
The Rocky Mountain chocolate could be fudge. https://rockymountainchocolatefactory.com/rmcf/control/productList
DISCLAIMER ! ! !
Any resemblance of a randy Sue Soloman, star in a randy romance novel, by Rajendra “Randy” Pachuri, would be a randy coincidence and randy ridiculous.
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Are credentialed alarmists incompetents, psychotic frauds, or something else entirely? There is a class of perfectly respectable scientists who happen to be religious, and that’s with old school holy book religions which require a bit of hand waving to explain away several scientifically ridiculous stories that overlap in content with scores of primitive creation myths. It was their religion that sent America its best generation of physicists, after all. But here we have a doomsday religion that is at least logically consistent and scientifically plausible but also extremely profitable as well and even able to get geeks laid. The slipping of one obscure branch of science into precautionary principle fanaticism needn’t bother us as much, however, as the utter and continued silence of chemists and physicists. That our culture in our lifetimes turned brain chemistry studies in willing human volunteers into the kiss of death of an academic career was the event that shut them up for good. Natural curiosity at the very frontier of inquiry, was righteously shut down. Good science is by its very nature carried along its bizarre journey not by brazenly outspoken diplomats but by highly functioning autistic folk. Give us stem cells, thousands of club kid volunteers and nuclear batteries and we will steal jewels from heaven indeed.
-=NikFromNYC=-, Ph.D. (Columbia/Harvard)
Does this qualify as Climategate 2.1?
NikFromNYC says:
August 25, 2012 at 2:24 pm
“…credentialed alarmists incompetent…”
‘Nuff said… Amen to that, brother!
See Bishop Hill’s site for an interesting discussion of several important emails:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/8/25/fighting-mad.html
Fred says:
August 25, 2012 at 11:49 am
Her perfect gift would be a brain.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Kev should have given her his.
It’s never been used.
Ugh….disgusting….like when Congress votes themselves a pay raise….
I never knew “scientists” were such a chummy little crew. Pats on the butt and a kiss on the cheek? PR and moral (?) support goes a long way in a professional atmosphere.
John has a point. This release contains nothing remotely disturbing as ‘fudge’.
So let’s never forget Climategate 2 eh?
NikFromNYC says:
August 25, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Are credentialed alarmists incompetents, psychotic frauds, or something else entirely? There is a class of perfectly respectable scientists who happen to be religious, and that’s with old school holy book religions which require a bit of hand waving to explain away several scientifically ridiculous stories that overlap in content with scores of primitive creation myths.
Now, now. Let us not discount those itinerant ignorant shepherds wandering lost in the desert for 40 years with their “primitive creation myths” …
They did, after all, get all of the nuclear physics of the big bang correct (first nothing, then a tremendous wave, then light, then matter (which is required to produce shadows) and then the plasmas and dust clouds condensing into the worlds as we know them now; all of the gravitational and solar system formation and earth paleontology correct – including continental drift and the concept of the one continent and one sea correct; all of the evolution of life correct – even the most recent birds-evolved-from-dinosaurs but first life-began-in-the-sea and before that the-atmosphere-was-cloudy-and-dark-until-plants-released-oxygen correct, and all of the evolution of life sequence correct (even of snakes coming in last!) ….
Now, I will admit they were a bit off in their dates, but after all, how can you count billions of years when you have no zero, no powers of ten, and no numbers that you can write down the results you can’t talk about because you don’t have the methods yet? When writing itself had not yet been invented? Their sequence of events is correct! Was correct!
Is not the miracle that these ignorant shepherds 6000 years ago were more correct than any “scientist” or “modern consensus” of the early, mid, and late twentieth century?
“A fair trial and a nice hanging” — Rooster Cogburn
“Maybe a card signed by all would be more valued. Who knows it might be valuable in the future?”
Like a baseball signed by the 1919 Black Sox? Maybe a menu signed by the conferees at Luciano’s Havana Conference? An autographed Heidi Fleiss client list?
The Rocky Mountain Choclate store in Estes Park, Colorado is where a young bear pried open the door 7 times, took his treats outside to eat on the sidewalk, and never broke a glass case. Climate scientists of the IPCC variety should be so polite.
Rocky Mountain chocolates aren’t the only gift. Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever can also be a hazard. RMSF is a rare form of rickettsial disease, caused by a small bacterium known as Rickettsia rickettsii. R. rickettsii lives inside the cells that line the blood vessels of infected animals and humans.
The tick is the primary home or reservoir for R. rickettsii. Because ticks can also spread the organism to humans and other animals, they are sometimes referred to as vectors for transmission of RMSF. Several different types of ticks can carry R. rickettsii. For example, the American dog tick (Dermacentor variabilis) is the most common vector in the eastern, central, and Pacific U.S. In the West, the Rocky Mountain wood tick (Dermacentor andersoni) is the primary vector for RMSF. Ticks can pass the organism to their offspring, creating a new generation of infected ticks. Ticks can also be infected by feeding on an infected person or animal.
The gift that goes on giving.
Romeo locks his basement flat
and scurries up the stair.
With head held high and floral tie,
a weekend millionaire.
“I will make my bed with her tonight!” he cries.
Can he fail, armed with his chocolate surprise?
Genesis, “The Cinema Show”, 1973 (awesome song!)
“Theo Goodwin says:
August 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm
See Bishop Hill’s site for an interesting discussion of several important emails:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/8/25/fighting-mad.html”
From emails
“It might be possible for us to do it now – IF we had a hero to lead the effort – right now, I’m maxed out (but would be happy to help).”
It seems they found their “Hero” in Al Gore