From NWS Duluth, MN, an old record beaten by five degrees:
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DULUTH MN
518 PM CST FRI JAN 21 2011
...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT INTERNATIONAL FALLS MN...
A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF -46 DEGREES WAS SET AT INTERNATIONAL
FALLS MN TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF -41 SET IN 1954.
Here is a map (above) of a few notable low temperatures across the area. The contoured shading in the background was created by interpolating the observations using GIS software. Therefore, the contours may not necessarily match individual observations, but the overall trend in temperatures is pretty close. Areas near Lake Superior managed to stay much warmer than outlying areas, and you can even detect a hint of urban heat influences around the Twin Cities.
The above pictures are from Babbitt, Minnesota where a frigid morning low temperature of -46 degrees was recorded on January 21, 2011. The pictures were taken by observer Ryan Scharber. The pictures show ice fog, which is usually a shallow fog consisting of suspended ice crystals. Ice fog usually only occurs when temperatures fall below -22 degrees Fahrenheit (-30 Celsius) according to the AMS Glossary. Normally, fog consists of tiny water droplets, or supercooled water droplets. However, when temperatures are as cold as they were this morning in parts of northern Minnesota, it becomes too cold for liquid water to exist, and small ice crystals can develop if the amount of water vapor in the air is sufficient.
Some notes of interest:
- The lowest temperatures recorded in the NWS Duluth county warning area were -46 degrees at both International Falls, MN (ASOS) and Babbitt, MN (CO-OP).
- The -46 degree low was tied for the 5th lowest on record at International Falls. Temperature records date back to 1897. The record is -55 degrees which was recorded on January 6, 1909.
- The -46 degree low was tied for the lowest on record at the International Falls Airport. The official observing station was moved to the airport in 1939. This is tied with the -46 degree reading from January 6, 1968.
- The -25 degree low at Duluth is tied for the 5th lowest minimum temperature in the last decade (since 2000). The lowest minimum temperature of the 2000s thus far has been -30 on January 29, 2004.
- The state record low temperature in Minnesota was recorded at Tower, Minnesota on February 2, 1996. The low was -60 degrees. That was also the coldest temperature ever recorded east of the Mississippi River.
- The state record low temperature in Wisconsin was recorded at Couderay on February 2nd and February 4th of 1996. The temperatures dipped down to -55 degrees both nights.
List Of Coldest Morning Lows
THE FOLLOWING ARE OBSERVED LOW TEMPERATURES THROUGH 900 AM FRIDAY JANUARY 21 2011. TEMPERATURES ARE IN DEGREES FAHRENHEIT. TEMP LOCATION ST COUNTY SOURCE ---- ----------------------- -- -------------- ------- -46 INTERNATIONAL FALLS MN KOOCHICHING ASOS -46 BABBITT MN ST LOUIS COOP -43 EMBARRASS MN ST LOUIS COOP -43 BIGFORK MN ITASCA RAWS -43 ASH LAKE MN ST LOUIS MNDOT -43 EFFIE MN ITASCA RAWS -40 LITTLEFORK MN KOOCHICHING COOP -40 BIRCHDALE MN KOOCHICHING MNDOT TEMP LOCATION ST COUNTY SOURCE ---- ----------------------- -- -------------- ------- -39 ORR MN ST LOUIS RAWS -38 MINONG WI WASHBURN RAWS -38 CASS LAKE MN CASS RAWS -38 SQUAW LAKE MN ITASCA MNDOT -38 CUTFOOT MN ITASCA RAWS -38 BOVEY MN ITASCA PRIVATE -38 KABETOGAMA MN ST LOUIS COOP -38 CRANE LAKE MN ST LOUIS AWOS -37 MARGIE MN KOOCHICHING MNDOT -37 HILL CITY MN ITASCA RAWS -37 ELY MN ST LOUIS RAWS -37 RICE LAKE MN AITKIN RAWS -36 LONG LAKE MN ITASCA PRIVATE -36 JACOBSON MN AITKIN MNDOT -36 BARNES WI BAYFIELD RAWS -36 COTTON MN ST LOUIS MNDOT -36 MAKINEN MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -36 LONGVILLE MN CASS AWOS -36 PINE RIVER MN CASS AWOS -36 SEAGULL LAKE MN COOK RAWS -36 WRIGHT MN ST LOUIS COOP -35 LAKE VERMILION MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -35 KABETOGAMA MN ST LOUIS RAWS TEMP LOCATION ST COUNTY SOURCE ---- ----------------------- -- -------------- ------- -34 MCGRATH MN AITKIN MNDOT -34 ASH RIVER MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -34 GUNFLINT LAKE MN COOK COOP -34 HAYWARD WI SAWYER RAWS -34 LIND WI BURNETT RAWS -34 MOOSE LAKE MN CARLTON RAWS -33 GRAND RAPIDS MN ITASCA AWOS -33 SAGINAW MN ST LOUIS MNDOT -33 COHASSET MN ITASCA PRIVATE -33 MCGREGOR MN AITKIN AWOS -33 AITKIN MN AITKIN AWOS -33 HIBBING MN ST LOUIS RAWS -33 JENKINS MN CROW WING PRIVATE -33 EMILY MN CROW WING MNDOT -33 BRAINERD MN CROW WING ASOS -33 MOOSE LAKE MN CARLTON AWOS -33 SOUTH RANGE WI DOUGLAS PRIVATE -32 GRANTSBURG WI BURNETT PRIVATE -31 SILVER BAY MN LAKE AWOS -31 TWO HARBORS MN LAKE AWOS -31 LEADER MN CASS PRIVATE -31 DEER RIVER MN ITASCA PRIVATE -31 SIREN WI BURNETT AWOS -31 GRANTSBURG WI BURNETT WIDOT -31 HINCKLEY MN PINE PRIVATE -30 BREEZY POINT MN CROW WING PRIVATE -30 TUCKER LAKE MN COOK PRIVATE -30 GLIDDEN WI ASHLAND RAWS -30 GORDON WI DOUGLAS RAWS TEMP LOCATION ST COUNTY SOURCE ---- ----------------------- -- -------------- ------- -29 I-35 MILE 198 MN PINE MNDOT -29 SEELEY WI SAWYER PRIVATE -29 4W CLAM LAKE WI BAYFIELD PRIVATE -29 CANOSIA TOWNSHIP MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -29 GILBERT MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -29 ISABELLA MN LAKE RAWS -28 10 NE DULUTH MN ST LOUIS SCHOOL -28 AURORA MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -28 NISSWA MN CROW WING PRIVATE -28 MERRIFIELD MN CROW WING PRIVATE -27 SPOONER WI WASHBURN SCHOOL -27 HERMANTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL MN ST LOUIS SCHOOL -27 HAUGEN WI WASHBURN WIDOT -26 DRUMMOND WI BAYFIELD SCHOOL -26 SUPERIOR WI DOUGLAS AWOS -26 PHILLIPS WI PRICE AWOS -25 FERNBERG MN LAKE RAWS -25 WASHBURN WI BAYFIELD RAWS -25 PINE CITY MN PINE SCHOOL -25 DULUTH MN ST LOUIS ASOS -24 DULUTH THOMPSON HILL MN ST LOUIS MNDOT -24 I-35 MILE 181 MN PINE MNDOT -22 HIGH BRIDGE WI ASHLAND PRIVATE -22 MAPLE WI DOUGLAS PRIVATE -22 BLATNIK BRIDGE MN ST LOUIS MNDOT -21 LESTER PARK / DULUTH MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE -21 SILVER CREEK MN LAKE PRIVATE -20 CHESTER PARK / DULUTH MN ST LOUIS PRIVATE
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BTW, International Falls holds the registered trademark of Icebox of the Nation
Right now Minneopolis -17. London 2C ( Piers method- using the angle of the dog star’s tail poining towards Uranus- needs work.
Here in Nova Scotia ‘pouring rain and everything is melting. Somebogy named Joe from TV weather forcast intense cold for Canada the third week of January. Wrong again .
REPLY: Apparently, Canada only consists of your tiny corner of the world. – Anthony
That “hint of urban heat influences around the Twin Cities” is, if I’m reading the chart correctly, approx. 6 degrees or more. But no, UHI doesn’t affect the long term record at all…
I’m a little confused, is it just different weather stations? One says that -46F is the new record, compared to the previous one of -41C from 1954, but further down the -46F is 5th place. Wait a minute, is the -41C the record for this particular day, and the others for any day?
Baby, It’s Cold Outside!
Ice fog can produce some beautiful optical effects, including sun pillars and columns, halos and arcs. Something positive in a deep freeze.
But of course, it’s likely rotten ice fog. ;->
-46? Brrrrr…
No surprise there’s a group called Minnesotans 4 Global Warming.”
2010 may have been tied for record warn, so far 2011 is heading for record cold. But hey, that’s weather for ya.
Warm globally, cool locally! LOL!
SO it is Frost Bite Falls!
Good job they’ve got all that extra CO2 trapping all that extra heat, otherwise it could be down to -60C.
They should rename the place to “Temperature Falls “
I used to go ice fishing in 30 below on Oahe reservoir. There wasn’t much else to do when it got that cold. I miss the walleye but these warm SoCal days in the 70’s are just wonderful.
Joe Bastardi at accuweather.com just had a video talking about how strange this cold has been. In short, this weather pattern has not happened before in recorded weather history. It is likely that the current La Nina will persist into next year. Every year that has had a La Nina for two straight winters, temperatures were always were well above normal in the US for the first winter and much cooler, but still above normal, following winter. If that holds true even in this un-La Nina like pattern, we can expect the next winter to be even colder.
Maybe next year, -46F will be called mild in Minnesota. One has to wonder how 3 straight cold winters will affect people’s outlook about global warming, assuming the double winter La Nina trend holds true even when the big La Nina trend did not.
The long range weather forecast has the Twin Cities accomplishing something that has never been achieved in the history of recording its temperatures — the whole month of January without going above the freezing mark. The Twin Cities were close a year or two ago, but missed it the last few hours of January 31.
I’ve changed plugs on a snowmobile at – 20F, and got frost nip on my finger (it was calm, so no wind chill, no gloves, it didn’t feel that cold), can’t imagine -40F.
Ah, to be 26 years old again!
I.E. this was about 1990 in northern Wisconsin.
The good old days, when weather was dealt with.
Ya haven’t lived until you’ve experienced a good old Minnesota winter, by golly! I loved it, when I lived in St. Cloud…the colder the weather, the better the ice-fishing.
-46 …. is that Celsius or Farenheit, or simply in the “Who cares?” category?
Hide the Decline in Minnesota!
John McMaus – have you seen the forecast for next Monday?
Ah yes. Frostbite Falls home of Wassmatta U, with moose and squirrel.
I’ve spent my two winters in Minnesota. I’m cured! Don’t need to see it again.
Back in the late ’40s, synthetic rubber inner tubes used to crack and leak in extreme cold. Living in Winnipeg (Winterpeg), you could expect to change a tire about once a week when it started getting below -35F. You got real good at fast changes. We got a few nights below -40F every winter.
I have never been so happy to be trapped in The Peoples Republic Of California where I’ve just returned from Starbucks wearing a knit polo shirt and ‘dockers’ type pants with sandals… Yes, we’ve finally had the rain stop and the sun come out.
If this is Global Warming I want more. Way more…
What an interesting localised weather event.
Saw Joe Bastardis video on the strange La Nina. It does not fit the pattern of a typical La Nina, as I and others have pointed out.
The Unisys and NOAA/NEDSYS SST Anomaly images are downright wild with the widespread cold, which keeps on getting colder and spreading. If indeed the lackadaisacal SC24 is what’s driving this, it had better step on it. Time is running short on this cycle halfway to max, and all we have is the low 20’s SSN.
Barn door is open.
Never thought I’d be nostalgic for -40 C winters, but I’d much rather have that in Kamloops than our current pattern of temperatures fluctuating between slightly above freezing during the day and slightly below freezing during the night. It’s made walking an exercise in caution as almost all roads are coated with a thin film of ice as it’s also been snowing a bit every couple of days. Last winter we were well above freezing and the ice quickly disappeared. Given the number of slip and fall injuries I’ve seen in the last few weeks, I can’t wait for it to warm up and stay above freezing or have a deep freeze with a large snowfall to make walking safer again.
When I lived in Calgary in the late 1960’s we routinely had -40 C or below and it never occurred to us to do anything more than dress appropriately and go outside.
Coldest I’ve ever experienced is 15 below give or take. I couldn’t imagine it being any colder. Can your body tell the difference between 30 below and 40 below?
Its all good. M4GW realize their best creativity at frigid temperatures.
Regarding the entire month below freezing in the Twin Cities, what do animals do for water when things never melt? Eat snow?
It’s even more amazing when you realize that all that cold air is coming from the Arctic, and the Arctic is melting, poley bears are dying, the tundra is thawed and leaking methane……………………
Kill the bears…
…save the seals
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-15 C just east of Guelph Ontario. Those east coasters always get the warm weather. And then the storms hahaha…
Never complain about the weather when you live on the east coast of Canada. It can only get worse.
I’m glad only the fringe lunatics fret over global cooling.
I just heard on ABC TV that the cold WEATHER in the East is being caused by (you could have guessed it) Global Warming and that this is the kind of winter we will continue to be having, because of Global Warming. I guess this Global Warming may also be the cause of the Little Ice Age that almost disappeared when the Hockey Stick was discovered. So when the La Niña goes away and winters are a little more mild, is that Global Warming too? Maybe all weather is caused by Global Warming and without it there is no weather at all. I should be given a grant to study this more.
Is there actually a falls in International Falls? And if so, what does it do when it gets this cold?
“Cold Arctic air over Northern Ontario will plunge temperatures down to the low minus thirties [celsius] overnight. These cold temperatures combined with northwest winds of 15 km/h will result in wind chill values of minus 45C to minus 50C overnight and early Saturday morning. Wind chill values will moderate later Saturday morning as the winds diminish and temperatures rise.” From the CDN weather site.
Diesels engines need to be kept running all night, that ought to send the greenies into a tizzy. Wonder how many frozen water pipes they’ll be? Even city water mains can freeze if this keeps up for an extended length of time. Not fun as this in turns can cause household pipes to burst as water can’t flow through and sitting water expands when frozen.
I recall a cold snap back in the early nineties in northern Ontario, when my then landlord asked me to leave my second floor bathroom tap on, allowing a trickle to flow all night to prevent freezing.
Seemed to work as the previous winter in a different location our pipes burst during the same kind of cold snap, when daytime highs hovered at -20C’s or so for a few weeks. BRRRRR!
FAR too cold for ice fishing for this pickerel lover. I’ll wimp out and wait for -15 C or better, and no wind.
I know wimpy-wimpy-wimpy, ;).
P.S. I lived in NS for a few years decades ago, they usually have milder winters compared to say ‘northern Ontario’ or QC and even NB – it’s just a fact that some don’t get or know it seems. What has become of our education system?
If it gets any warmer we will all freeze to death.
Iggy,
Yes, just like the West Antarctic Ice Sheet the alarmists are always hand-waving about. clicky
ldd says:
January 21, 2011 at 6:16 pm
FAR too cold for ice fishing for this pickerel lover. I’ll wimp out and wait for -15 C or better, and no wind.
I know wimpy-wimpy-wimpy, ;).
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Get’cherself a ice-house, by golly! I’ve used these, they are just amazing!!
http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/travel/escapes/15icehouse.html
fistula says:
January 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm
What an interesting localised weather event.
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You might even call it inconvenient.
David70 says: Can your body tell the difference between 30 below and 40 below?
Well I’d venture that without clothing, nope.
😉
-46 at the airport, I would think it was closer to -50 in the countryside away from any possible Urban Heat Island influence. But there would be no official records for that, just folks looking out at their thermometers and staying safely indoors.
Well most of this week, parts of northern Canada have been the coldest place on earth. Beating both Siberia and this place – http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-78.44999695,106.87000275
Though if you check the weather reports for Vostok on say July 4, it may amaze you to see temps below 100*C!
I’m originally from Minnesoooota, but now live in Florida. February, 1996, it hit -60 in Embarrass (Ohhh, the irony) at the NWS weather box (Ohhh, the irony) and they had a protable guage showing the same temperature. They then proceeded to walk about 200 yds to a hollow where it read -70. Yeah, it gets that good living in Minnesoooota.
Once, in my younger not so weathly days, I had to cut wood for warmth because the heating oil was getting low. So I cut wood in Red Wing with a high of -17. The activity kept me warm…….kinda.
littlepeaks says:
January 21, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Is there actually a falls in International Falls? And if so, what does it do when it gets this cold?
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Hopes for AGW……….silly rabbit.
David70 says:
January 21, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Coldest I’ve ever experienced is 15 below give or take. I couldn’t imagine it being any colder. Can your body tell the difference between 30 below and 40 below?
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No…..numb is numb.
Yes indirectly. You begin to notice things that are markers of colder temps.
For example at about 10 deg F snow begins to squeak as you walk on it.
When you get down to -30 and colder even a slight breeze will freeze your eyelids shut if your eyes water and you hold them closed too long.
At those temperatures, you begin to notice infrared coming from objects that are not “warm” in the usual sense, as you walk by. You can feel the warmth of a parked car on your face if it has been recently running. You begin to notice air leaks in your clothing that at warmer temperatures are not noticeable.
Coats designed for seriously cold weather, often have flaps designed to cover the front zipper that are held closed by snaps or velcro. At normal cold temperatures they seem to be a useless accessory. At temperatures near -30 they suddenly become important as facing into the wind you can feel the cold air bleeding through the zipper, and even the stitching in the coat. That is why many arctic coats include a wind shell over the insulating coat specifically to stop that sort of cold air infiltration.
Near -40 common steel becomes brittle and subject to breakage under impacts it handles quite nicely at warmer temperatures. In Montana the rail road has to be careful about humping cars (building up trains and coupling them up by coasting the cars into each other in the switch yard), because the impact can shatter the couplers at those very cold temperatures.
It is said (I have not experienced it personally) that around -80 if you spit it will freeze before it hits the ground.
It is those sort of incidental observations that distinguish those intense levels of cold, and people that live in those environments all their life can often guess the temperature reasonably well based on those simple observations.
Larry
CRS, Dr.P.H. says:
January 21, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Ya haven’t lived until you’ve experienced a good old Minnesota winter, by golly! I loved it, when I lived in St. Cloud…the colder the weather, the better the ice-fishing.
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Ah yes, and the high pitched twangs and twongs of ice cracking from the cold……..and beer.
On Jan 1st we had a freak weather event blow through the twin cities I should have commented upon. We had a very brief rain shower at 17°F. I was out driving when a few drops hit the my windshield. I thought for a moment that this was salt water spray from the road, until a lot more hit and instantly froze. We were hit with supercooled rain that froze the instant it hit. My windshield was covered with ice within thirty seconds. The supercooled raindrops seemed to freeze and throw off shards of ice as they hit the road. Fortunately it was very short and it left a very rough pebbly surface on the ground.
This is what airplanes must face when they fly into icing conditions. I have never seen it before. That stuff is still out there buried under more snow and on top of the twenty inches we got for Christmas. It will probably be here until April.
“Don’t Worry, Be Happy!”
By the time Hansen and his NASA gang “quality control” and “homogenize” the numbers, the year 2011 in Minnesota will be one of the warmest years on “record”.
“There is no such thing as bad weather, only different kinds of good weather.”
John Ruskin
hotrod (Larry L) says:
January 21, 2011 at 7:01 pm
It is said (I have not experienced it personally) that around -80 if you spit it will freeze before it hits the ground.
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In February of 1996, at the -60 record event, the TV cameras were rolling when someone tossed a cup of hot water into the air…….you could see it vaporize into a mist and then nothing. With single digit humidity……….you’ll have that.
Well I think this counts as an ‘extreme weather event’ and is therefore totally consistent with the predictions (usually made after the event) of (specially selected) global warming models.
I went to the website of the International Falls newspaper … and there really was nothing about the frigid cold. The just deal with it.
A newspaper poll found:
Cold weekend
It’s sub zero temperatures this weekend (Jan 22-23) in International Falls. What are you going to do?
Nothing, I’m staying home where it’s warm 17%
I’m going to do what I usually do, cold or not 45%
I’m going to embrace the cold & do something crazy outside 10%
I’m enjoying the weather where I live, NOT in International Falls 28%
No moaning and groaning as we do in the greater New York City area.
They just suck it up!
http://www.ifallsjournal.com/news
John McManus says:
January 21, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Here in Nova Scotia ‘pouring rain and everything is melting
Where in Nova Scotia? In Halifax it’s snowing right now. The high tomorrow is supposed to be 18F. Are you perchance in the southern Miami portion of Nova Scotia?
kcom at 5:44 asks:
“. . . what do animals do for water when things never melt? Eat snow?
There are heated stock tanks for domestic animals as eating, melting, and warming snow takes a toll. Wild animals and horses or cattle left out do eat snow but that usually isn’t as much as they really need. More:
http://www.equisearch.com/horses_care/health/illnesses_injuries/eqcolic3473/
Once temperatures get below about -30˚F, you can never really get used to it. Even communities like Fairbanks, AK has perennial problems when temperatures will hover in the -40s and -30s for a week. Tires go flat, engines freeze up, diesel gels… things break much more easily.
I liked the comment on Arctic jackets having a strip to cover the zipper… I never thought anything about it. I just always assumed it was there to keep the zipper warmer and stop air from getting in. I guess that shows how people here do just deal with it. Then that first 80˚F day in May when the sun is shining and there’s a light breeze and the birds are chirping and everything is turning greener by the minute… you realize why it’s all so worth it.
David70 says:
January 21, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Coldest I’ve ever experienced is 15 below give or take. I couldn’t imagine it being any colder. Can your body tell the difference between 30 below and 40 below?
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hotrod (Larry L) says:
January 21, 2011 at 7:01 pm
I had spit freezing as it hit my ski pants at top of Vail skifield Colorado. I was young (student) and found it amazing that this happened. I think the air temp in village that day was about -20 F something. Maybe a strong wind chill helped cool the spit.
What a bunch of wusses, can’t take a little cold weather.
Mike in Houston
I actually don’t know if I could survive in my home at -40 degrees here in SC. My house was built in 1896, has those high ceilings and was made to stay cool in the summer and not warm in the winter.
While I do empathise with our Minnesota family and friends, I know they are used to these extreme winter conditions and will cope and be well.
Also, they still haven’t come close to beating our record of -52.2, established January 2, 1950. (That would be about -62 deg F.) We have come awfully close a few times in my lifetime. Surprisingly this year, we have not yet hit -40C, except with a factoring of wind chill. However, we have consistently had -25C to -30C temperatures for the past 3 months, below average for November/December.
Could be we have set new snowfall precipitation records this month, at least for snow on the ground for the month. The major snowfall stopped Monday morning and crews are still struggling to clean up the mess. I am anxiously awaiting the month-end results on environment Canada to see if we have finally broken some of our old-standing records.
Tips and Notes seems to be closed right now
Joe Bastardi tweet (BigJoeBastardi)
“Global temp anomaly at 1 pm Eastern time today (1/21/11) : -.288C!”
http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi
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Joe Bastardi, 8:42 video from 1/20/11, unusual cold where should be warm, low solar cycle
When it is cold enough you can hear the stars:
http://www.siberiapictures.com/stories/horses/horses.htm
This is my neck of the woods. Brutally cold! In early Feb of 1996, we experienced a week of this stuff, and it was even a little colder. -60 for the state record was set then. Forecast is for highs in the 20’s next week. HEAT WAVE! That’ll feel real nice. Just walking out in this stuff creates a wind chill. And a little breeze hurts.
While the -46 F set a new daily record at I-Falls, and the lowest temp there since 1968, many communities in NE Minnesota (where I live) have been considerably colder. The -60F set near Tower in 1996 was the coldest reading ever recorded in the US , east of the Great Plains. Many communities have seen -50 F or lower in this area, and even the daytime highs can stay below zero for many days on end. Statistically, the coldest American winters outside of Alaska are in northern Minnesota.
What’s really cool is that after a long spell of cold weather, a temperature of zero can feel quite mild!
I remember back in the mid 80’s when we would see wind chills under the old system hitting -60 to -80. One day they were running -80 to -100. That was the windiest day with sub-zero temps i’ve ever experienced. Minnesota winters can get very brutal, and dangerous. You respect it, you don’t thumb your nose at it. That’s why we can deal with it easy enough.
Mercury freezes at -37.9 F. So, how do they measure temperatures less than that?
Don’t you just hate it when the dashboard on your car splits up the middle when it gets too cold? Or there’s frost on the screws of the INSIDE light switch at the front door?
Charles Higley says:
January 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Mercury freezes at -37.9 F. So, how do they measure temperatures less than that?
Don’t you just hate it when the dashboard on your car splits up the middle when it gets too cold? Or there’s frost on the screws of the INSIDE light switch at the front door?
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REPLY: Heh! You’ve been there! I always enjoyed how car tires would go “thunk-thunk-thunk” because they would freeze flat at the bottom, requiring a few minutes of driving until they thawed.
Well, it is apparently the consensus among climatologists and fortunetellers that AGW causes cold weather.
Bedtime for me. Would someone read me that story about how CO2 retards heat loss on clear nights again?
One nice thing about last year was that the negative Arctic Oscillation helped bring in warmish maritime air to the northeast. It’s negative this year too, but the warm stream is further east.
One nice thing about this year is we’re getting snow storms. 4.3″ today, 31.7″ for the month, and 19″ on the ground. The last is about 50 cm for you folk with sensible scales.
Charles Higley says:
January 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm
> Mercury freezes at -37.9 F. So, how do they measure temperatures less than that?
Alcohol (the thermometers with red fluid), electronic (direct and radiative), bimetalic (dial with needle), tongue on lampost, etc.
Having divided my life between MN and WI, I’ve been colder, -35F a couple of times, but not often.
One of those times, after Pinatubo, had to warm the air in the car with a blowtorch so the fan would spin.
Gordon Hommes says:
January 21, 2011 at 9:53 pm
What’s really cool is that after a long spell of cold weather, a temperature of zero can feel quite mild!
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In Minnesooooota, a 32 degree day with sunshine and no wind is t-shirt weather, I mean climate, I mean weather……..whatever!
Larry gave a very interesting description of the different kinds of things you’ll notice when the temperature gets really cold. As an aside, I’d just like to add that fasting can produce a similar intensification of one’s perception of heat loss.
If you’ve ever fasted for several days and then taken a walk around the neighborhood, you’ll notice that you can practically count the calories of heat leaving the surface of your skin. Their loss is keenly felt: not only do you notice them going, but you actually mourn their departure. When a breeze blows across your exposed skin surfaces, you get a very vivid experience of just what the “wind chill effect” is all about. Additionally, you can clearly sense the differing levels of insulation provided (or not provided) by various layers of clothing as they play across your moving frame.
Extreme conditions like these, whether brought about by frigid external temperatures or intentional food deprivation, allow us to experience ordinary things, including our very selves, in a new way. They acquaint us more intimately with the structures of being, allowing the philosopher and the scientist in us to plumb the precarious nature of the cords that knit body and soul together. They deepen our wisdom in ways that mere theoretical knowledge cannot. To “cloth the naked” is a corporal work of mercy that all Christians will have heard of and most will try to practise. But it is one thing to donate an old coat to the church clothing bank and forget about it, quite another thing to perceive a fellow human being dangerously bleeding heat away to his surroundings and losing his life thereby. The fact that we can nurture his soul by clothing his body is what makes it a corporal work of mercy and not simply a generic good deed. If we do not perceive the latter, we are that much more unlikely to do the former. I am, I confess, continuously amazed by the role that even brute physical necessities play in our edification.
I lived in Montana for a good many years. Lowest temperature (not wind chill) in the state was -70 F on January 20, 1954 at Rogers Pass, about 30 miles from Helena, the state capitol. That’s the lowest temperature recorded in the lower 48 United States, according to the National Weather Service:
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/tfx/tx.php?wfo=tfx&type=html&loc=text&fx=topweather
While living in Butte (1954-57), we went to school (and ice skating) when it was -45 F. Dress in layers, and if your feet start to get cold, get inside right away!
Minnesota can be cold, I when I was a child I have walk to school in minus temperatures many a time it is not unusual to have day time highs in the – 20 with morning in the -30s. , I have unzipped my coat in -19 since that was the warmest weather temperature we had in the last seventy two hours. Try to explain to some one in Arizona that the high temperature for the day is going to be -22.
The joke in my household is that my wife though she knew what winter was until she married me and she moved to Fargo. She grew up and had lived in central South Dakota her first forty years and was totally unprepared for the winters in Fargo. She did learn that my home town of Mahnomen MN the temperature were on average colder, the Autumn comes about two weeks earlier and Spring about two weeks later than Fargo. I know a lot of -30 a few – 40s and a -50, The -50 was Christmas Eve in the eights in wester North Dakota, as I found out on that morning, even radial tire develop flat spots at those temperatures, it had been several year since I had driven on tires with flat spots. I had switched to radial tires years earlier and they generally do not do that, bias ply tire would do that in the minus teens.
I also remember a few years ago open day of deer season in Minnesota the temperature was -13, that was in the first week of November., in the seventies I frost bit my ear deer hunting at -20 all though I think that was mid November. Ice fishing in the daytime temperatures of -20 is not bad if you have a decent fish house. You will need to start the vehicular ever few hour so it will start when you want to go home.
Oh by the way these temperature are the actual temperatures not wind chill temperatures, Wind chill only makes it worst but a -20 wind chill is only experience it you stand in the wind as a child you quickly learn to get out of the wind , if you do being outside on a cold day with below zero temptures it is not to bad, all though after a few hours being out in that weather when you get back inside start to warm up, your toes may smart a bit as they warm up.
As I got older the cold got harder and harder to take, today I check Fargo temperature and it was at -7, fortunately were I live now the temperature here in Mesa Arizona was around 70 I can say I do not miss seeing temperatures with the minus sign in front of the digits and I can say the my sons and siblings do not feel sorry for me when I complain that is cold when the temperature in Mesa get around the freezing.
Northern Minnesota can see those temperature in August. my brother in law lost most of his soy bean crop to frost near Mahnomen a in the early 2000s when frost came in mid August, That was the second time Mahnomen county had an August freeze in the fifty plus years I have been alive, It happen the first time in the sixties in Mahnomen when I was a child. Cold weather is a part of life in the northern states and little has change in my life time some winter are warmer and some are colder and some are down right brutal. The only thing you can say when you live up there is if you don’t like the weather just wait it will change, The only question is what direction. Generally it warmer in the summer and colder in the winter and spring and fall may or may not exist. Sometime it seams that way with summer also. The running joke up there is there are two season Winter and road construction.
Anthony,
Your tips page appears not to be working.
Perhaps soon enough much of the debate will crap out. I know you’re into alt tech, so get a load of this —
http://pesn.com/2011/01/17/9501746_Focardi-Rossi_10_kW_cold_fusion_prepping_for_market/
And just to be topical, in my part of MN it was only -14 or so. Last year we had a few days of -30. Did you know car tires can catastrophically deflate at that temp?
It is mostly just something to talk about. I’m a little east of the outlined area. Temps around here were a mere -16 and -20 at the stations on either side. NBD. It was 80+ in here on oak & hard maple, I didn’t even have to start with the ironwood stash.
I’d bet that the ice on the lakes was really singing last night. It is pretty cool when you catch it doing that.
I used to start cars in weather like this in the college days when I worked at a rental store. We’d load the service truck with moving blankets, a generator, kerosene heaters, and a battery charger. We’d pull up to the dead car, charge the battery, cover the engine/hood with blankets, and point 3 Reddy Heaters under the car. Five minutes and 25 bucks later the car was running with full heat. We made pretty good money. Most days were at least 25-30 below plus wind. I can’t say that I’ve been much under -35 tho.
I experienced -30F in Stowe Vermont in 1996, the year of the big snow, and this was in the town. Up the mountain it was colder and windy, 25-35 Knots. So wind chill put it lower than -30. It seemed too cold to me trying to have a days skiing. The guides thought I was mad. I cannot imagine -46 (C or F)
Record cold also in Korea.
From KBS World 2011-01-18
Record cold wave in Korea
It’s a dry cold, so it’s not that bad. 😉
It only dropped to a balmy -20F down here by the Iowa border. I guess they got more global warming up north than we do.
When I was in Russia in winter (1990), I did wonder how they would start the diesel truck in -28oc. Answer? They lit a wood fire under the engine. Good job their engines didn’t include any new-fangled and sensitive electronics.
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Gosh.
I mean – crikey …
Ok – I will try hard not to complain about the cold here in South Wales, when it is just below 28F .
Mind – it does feel horrid because it is still damp. Well, that’s my excuse anyway!
There was a commercial in the ’70’s that asked the question: “How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll (TM) centre of a Tootsie Pop(TM)?” I think the question should be put to the Carbonistas: “How many record low temperature settings (sorry ‘freak weather events’) does it take to get the BBC to admit AGW does not exist?” The same could be asked with “How many rejected FOI requests…” or “How many corrupted data streams…” or “How many failed temperature predictions…” etc.
Puckster said “it hit -60 in Embarrass (Ohhh, the irony) at the NWS weather box (Ohhh, the irony) and they had a protable guage showing the same temperature. They then proceeded to walk about 200 yds to a hollow where it read -70. Yeah, it gets that good living in Minnesoooota.”
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Gordon Hommes said “The -60F set near Tower in 1996 was the coldest reading ever recorded in the US , east of the Great Plains”.
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“What’s really cool is that after a long spell of cold weather, a temperature of zero can feel quite mild!”
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I was working in the nearby iron mines when it hit 60 below. I believe Puckster and Gordon are talking about the same day in 1996 when it got so cold. Embarrass and Tower are only 14 miles apart.
I do remember the comments at the time that it was much colder nearby (-70?), but that it was not an official measurement.
I also remember the ice fog early that morning. It was the first time I had seen it. Very pretty, but also very strange how the crystals reflected in the car headlights.
Along the lines of Gordon’s comment, after staying at or below -40 for a about a week, it warmed up to 20 below there overnight. It felt positively balmy the next morning. Put a little extra spring in your step being so warm!
As far as cold places, though, I used to roughneck in the natural gas fields in Wyoming. One area we frequently worked around was Big Piney, WY. The sign outside of town said “Welcome to the Icebox of the Nation”.
Growing up elsewhere, on TV Big Piney, Wyoming was often noted as the coldest spot in the country. After a while it seemed as if you never heard about it anymore. The locals said it was because television got tired of announcing the same location every day and that’s when you started hearing about Internationals Falls, etc.
I don’t have a clue if that is true or not, but having worked winters in both places, I’ll take a winter in I’Falls over one in Big Piney anytime. At least I’Falls has trees to break up the wind; Big Piney has nothing to stop it. Neither is pleasant, though.
Amino Acids in Meteorites said: “Joe Bastardi, 8:42 video”
I enjoyed that. Don’t watch Bastardi often and alway think his jackets are too big but he provides interesting information, is enthusiastic about his work and happy to admit what he doesn’t know.
Philip Mulholland said: “Record cold also in Korea.”
Made worse by the Government’s encouragement of electricity over kerosene and diesel for energy. Prices of the latter fuels have gone up and electricity prices have been subsidised. Now they have been hit with a hard winter and the people are using lots of electric heaters to the point of reserves of power becoming quite precarious.
The source of their problems is a plan to double electric generation in the next 15 years by building more power stations. A good infrastructure plan to provide reliable energy using less fuel, improving air quality and convenience but this winter has caught them off guard. The changes in energy prices due to subsidies and taxes has caused people to move to electric heating in large numbers, quicker than expected it would seem.
I was down in Tampa, Florida on business last December, and it was maybe 40 F in the morning, but the folks down there were wearing heavy coats and shivering! I guess everyone has a different perception of “cold”.
Western New Hampshire will be seeing near -15 F tomorrow morning and -20 F on Monday morning. Hope my car starts…
For those interested in what happens to waterfalls here’s a video:
I live in Southern Minnesota a good 300 miles south of International Falls and we had a balmy -20°F yesterday. However, that was UHI enhanced as local small cities were -26°F or colder. I’ve been checking the UHI this past month as I go out of town early in the mornings about once a week. On one morning it was 8°F when I left and got as cold as -4°F in the county. The UHI has varied from 4-12 °F on EVERY trip and I live on the outskirts of the city and do not experience the full effect. It’s not unusual for me to see 2-3 °F UHI when I drive from downtown to my home.
While this spell has been cold it is far from unusual. We’ve had times where the highs do not get above 0°F for a whole week and stay below freezing for a month or two. Wind chills of – 80-100°F are the ones to worry about.
I’ve never experienced -40F, but when going to You Tube type in water guns in frigid Alaska-the videos are fun to watch.
I went from New Mexico to Kansas City one winter years ago and waiting on the curb at the airport I thought I was going to freeze! I looked at the sign and it was only 30 deg but it was sooo cold. I guessed that it was because Missouri is a more humid climate. Is that what it is like in Minn.?
I’ve been in -14 deg weather here in Colorado and though it was cold, it wasn’t bitter like it felt in Kansas City. Can’t even imagine a humid -40 deg cold. You all are built of strong stuff up there.
No Anthony. Equating Canada to my tiny part of the world would be just as foolish as picking one night in Minn. as proof that thwe world is getting cooler. I’m glad to see you understand my point- global includes places outside the US.
BTW after the rain came last night 3C it fell to -8C by this morning. Weird swings happen.
Some day I’ll be able to post the video . . . but for now. From the Minnesotans For Global Warming . . . . Frozen Wasteland
A very talented banjo . . . . . I must say so . . .
and for an encore . . . .
Minnesotans For Global Warming Song (If We Had Some Global Warming)
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John McManus says:
January 22, 2011 at 7:20 am
I’m glad to see you understand my point- global includes places outside the US.
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Brilliant! Many thanks! If you hadn’t pointed that out, no one here would have realized it.
In SW Virginia, I was driving along in Jan 1994 & the temps were around -20F, there was a very thick ice-fog close to the ground. Descending down to the New River from higher elevation, I could see a distinct, uplifted “mountain” of ice-fog above it & upon reaching the river, came underneath it. It was actually clear immediately above the river, its warmth pushing up the ice-fog layer making a distinct underside several hundred feet up. As I drove along the river, a visibly-rotating, fog-filled vortex rising from the center of the river up into the ice-fog cloud above came into view — hundreds of feet tall & prb’ly 10 feet in diameter, twisting & turning like a tornado.
My very first & last “ice-fog devil”.
Up until now, there did not seem to be much ice on Lake Superior. I wonder, if and when, the lake will freeze over this year.
A frozen Lake Superior is usually worthy of some news coverage. It’s hard to spin that event into AGW. Not that they won’t try, but it can’t pass the smell test for the average viewer.
….and?
I’ve seen it dip to -5 F in Altanta, and -2 F in Florida? So what? In the 1970s, Miami had snow weighing down palm trees. Odds are it will not be happening any time soon, or ever again. But even if it did, no one in climatology ever said the warming trend–which almost all agree on–would be linear.
The ARCTIC is not any colder. In fact the North Pole is warmer in recent decades than usual. The reason–as has been pointed out over and over and over and over and over and over and over–that that sub-Artic Circle North America is getting occasionally hit with colder temps in recent years is the accelerated rate of meltwater from the ice northward, and the resultant shifting of air currents that bring cold. As predicted in the AGW model, Europe too is seeing cooler temps. And, it takes a hell of a lot of energy to PUSH that cold air–which is usually relatively stagnant near the poles and trapped by other air current circulation–southward. That energy, of course, is supplied by global warming. More evaporation from loss of sea ice is also the proximate reason we’re getting unusually high levels of snow this year–also long and consistently predicted by the standard AGW modeling.
Meanwhile, summer temps in most other areas of the world are soaring to new records every year. Yes, it’s warm in the South, for example, but several days hanging around 103 to a damnable 108 F is too much even for the corn, folks.
E.M.Smith says:
January 21, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I have never been so happy to be trapped in The Peoples Republic Of California where I’ve just returned from Starbucks wearing a knit polo shirt and ‘dockers’ type pants with sandals…
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Just so you know, Starbucks is a big supporter and promoter of Cap and Trade. We’ve been boycotting them since last spring.
Those from MN know that while IFalls tries to claim the moniker of “Icebox of the Nation,” locally Embarrass, MN (not making this up) is always colder.
the average viewer.
Roasted Earth says:
January 22, 2011 at 11:04 am
….and?
I’ve seen it dip to -5 F in Altanta, and -2 F in Florida? So what? In the 1970s, Miami had snow weighing down palm trees. Odds are it will not be happening any time soon, or ever again. But even if it did, no one in climatology ever said the warming trend–which almost all agree on–would be linear.
The ARCTIC is not any colder. In fact the North Pole is warmer in recent decades than usual. The reason–as has been pointed out over and over and over and over and over and over and over–that that sub-Artic Circle North America is getting occasionally hit with colder temps in recent years is the accelerated rate of meltwater from the ice northward, and the resultant shifting of air currents that bring cold. As predicted in the AGW model, Europe too is seeing cooler temps.
All very wonderful of course. But some of us here at WUWT are a tad fussy about our predictions – call us quaint, but we have this old fashioned idea that predictions should refer to the future, not the past.
Who in the mainstream AGW camp, and the AGW-controlled media, was saying, 5 or 10 years ago, that Europe and USA should prepare for colder winters due to global warming, from melting Arctic ice?
No-one.
OK dig up some abstract from who-knows where, showing it was predicted. But the publically presented science was linear warming. Politically expedient, scientifically idiotic. The CRU predicted officially that winter snow in the UK would be a thing of the past. Singing from the wrong hymn sheet? No talk of melting Arctic bringing cold winters then. Only now.
I think you’ll find quite a lot of AGWs predicted temp increase with the implied assumption – as shown in charts – of linear warming.
You can edit people – remove inconvenient scientists from journals and committies, you can edit mainstream news, but – sorry to break this to you – you cant edit the past.
Climate is cooling. Get help if you cant cope with this.
Roasted Earth says:
January 22, 2011 at 11:04 am
You do realise that what you are proposing perfectly describes a Negative Feedback Loop?
Not exactly consistent with AGW theory………
[snip – taunt – adds nothing to the dialog]
Very well.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100611093710.htm
http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455&tid=282&cid=10046
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm
Something of interest. When the -60˚F temperature was recorded in Tower, there were readings that it was colder in surrounding areas… but no official records could be found.
You can find the records for all Minnesota weather stations here:
http://climate.umn.edu/hidradius/radius.asp
Duluth goes back to about 1874 and Fort Snelling back into the 1860s.
Tower was traditionally the cold spot in Minnesota, but I think the title moved to Embarrass in the past 12 years when the weather station was moved and extremely low temperatures began to be recorded when it wasn’t all that cold in Tower.
That region of Minnesota is famous for it’s frigid winter nights. Embarrass was below -40˚F on 13 nights in January 1996 and was below -50˚F on 6 occasions that winter. Gardeners and the few futile farming attempts are hampered by frequent summer frosts and freezes. During particularly cool summers, you may not get more 2-3 weeks without a freeze. 2004 was particularly bad with average lows in the mid 30s in June, near 40 in July, and in the upper 30s in August. Similarly cold nights were frequent in 2009.
So really, this cold wave was nothing unusual. But they have become much less common in recent years. The cold of December/January 2004/05 was impressive in northern MN but went unnoticed further south. The cold in January 2004 was more impressive and similar to what we just experienced. As far as nasty cold waves are concerned, the one that hit in February 2007 was particularly nasty because 1) It occurred in what was otherwise a very mild winter and 2) Despite little snow cover across the state (only a few inches), temperatures during the day were held to the teens and 20s below zero. So while we didn’t see -50˚F in that wave because of lack of snow, it was probably still the most potent cold wave since 1996.
It’s cold here in Pennsylvania. Here in Altoona, it got dow to -4 in town (but not that cold at the airport, which doesn’t reflect Altoona’s microclimate), but nothing compared to out in Minnesota. Our local meteorologist said that we were going to have a warm January but a cold February in his wintercast. If the current pattern holds true, and we’ve had an average to cold January, February could be like 1979 and March could be like 1960. If that happens, I’ll have snow in my yard until May.
There hasn’t been any warming lately because Al Gore hasn’t been producing as much hot air lately. That’s the REAL reason.
phlogiston says @ January 22, 2011 at 11:48 am: “Who in the mainstream AGW camp, and the AGW-controlled media, was saying, 5 or 10 years ago, that Europe and USA should prepare for colder winters due to global warming, from melting Arctic ice?”
Careful! The AGW camp is a big tent, and there has been a willingness to fund a wide variety of research projects with different arguments. There has been plenty of obscure angles, leading to a list of thousands of developments that AGW will cause. Therefore, no matter what development occur in reality, the AGW can point to some study in the past that matches it.
What you say about the message of mainstream AGW is certainly true. But when you go on to say “No one,” someone will probably come up with a contradiction.
Roasted Earth says:
January 22, 2011 at 7:32 pm
link 1) Article written last june trotting out CAGW’s latest “theory” on colder, snowier winters being magically connected to warming, via changing air pressures at the NP, and shifting wind currents. Anything to keep the dream alive.
links 2 and 3) Ah, the old “Day After Tomorrow” theories – completely different from their latest Hail Mary, and based on ocean circulation. Equally hilarious. Keep ’em coming, Roast.
As well as unprecedented cold in parts of US and Europe, there appears to be unprecedented warmth in large parts of Canada.
See http://www2.ucar.edu/currents/cold-comfort-canadas-record-smashing-mildness where it is stated that “Similarly, a large swath of the Baffin/Newfoundland Sea fell weeks behind schedule in freezing up. As evident in the charts at bottom, these bodies of water remain in catch-up mode. Around the south part of Baffin Island, “the boats were still in the water during the first week of January,” says David Phillips, a senior climatologist with Environment Canada. “The Meteorological Service of Canada was still writing marine forecasts as of 7 January, well beyond anything we have ever done.”
Storm after storm sweeping up the East Coast in recent weeks has pumped warm Atlantic air across eastern Canada, helping postpone the freeze-up even further and allowing temperatures over land to soar far above average.
According to Philips, the implications for people in the far north have been widespread. Nunavut’s capital, Iqaluit, had to cancel its year-end snowmobile run on Frobisher Bay for the first time. “Last New Year’s Eve, the big story was ice breaking up,” says Phillips. “This year there was no ice to break up.” Worst of all, he adds, “it’s impossible for many people in parts of the eastern Arctic to safely get on the ice to hunt much-needed food for their families—for the second winter in a row. Never before have we seen weather impact a way of life in so many small and big ways.”
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You’ve got to respect those men, women, and dogs who race in the Idatarod in such cold weather, in the dark, and sleep deprived. I can’t imagine.
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Roasted Earth says:
January 22, 2011 at 7:32 pm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100611093710.htm
This one is not a forecast – issued in 2010.
http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455&tid=282&cid=10046
Cannot open this one.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm
Global warming causing and ice age?
First, you need warming for this theory to work.
Second, Does not all the warming from CO2 overcome the cooling?
This sounds like another theory that tries to cover both sides of the fence.
The cold weather in Minnesota represents a shift in air flow patterns. Parts of the Arctic have gotten warmer, while colder air, which normally is resident in the Arctic, has shifted southward to the US.
The 500millibar height anomaly chart on the following web page which is related to the temperature of the air below, shows how the height in the Arctic region has been way above normal, while the height in the eastern US is way below normal.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/23/162159/035
-15 (F) in Southern New Hampshire, at five AM. This is no way to start a Monday.
Caleb says:
January 24, 2011 at 2:50 am
“-15 (F) in Southern New Hampshire, at five AM. This is no way to start a Monday.”
I live in Northern Vermont. It is cold here, but it was way colder here in the 1970’s. The record low for Burlington Vermont for this day is -22F set in 1948. We got to -11F last night.
The Arctic air will be gone from here tomorrow.
0F (-19C) in western MD this morning. Ice on the insides of windows. This is actually a pretty typical “season low” for this area, often occurring around this time of year.
But the winter is still young….
If you can’t attribute any single event to global warming, why do you insist on publicizing isolated incidents of extreme cold, since you agree they are meaningless in terms of climate?!!? Do negative anomalies debunk AGW, while warm anomalies are merely normal variations? Now that’s some excellent climatic hypocrisy.
Sorry, but you can’t have it both ways, especially while ignoring the extraordinary positive anomalies over Greenland and the Arctic at the same time!