Cancun COP16 attendees fall for the old "dihydrogen monoxide" petition as well as signing up to cripple the U.S. Economy

Let’s see the names on the DHMO petition!

Brilliant! Inspired satire. Please tell me the signatories’ names will soon be appearing somewhere on the web. In the currently fashionable spirit of full disclosure, of course.

Let’s just get to the bottom line, hey? Ban Homo Sapiens and be done with it. That is the goal, right? Right? Hello! Hello, is anybody there!?

I confess I wouldn’t have known what “Dihydrogen Monoxide” is. But I expect I’d have asked, “what is it? where does it come from? who makes it? why is it bad?”
A charity once tried to sign me up to their anti-drugs programme which they said was very successful. I asked them, “so, how do you measure your success? how many of people you’ve helped stay off drugs?” He didn’t know. His colleague didn’t know. They rang their boss, who didn’t know. “Yeah but it is really successful!!” OK, but how do you know?

Well, it’s just frightening how thick these people are and how much power they are given by the powers that be. That is the really scary thing, to my mind. Not so much the people in the video but the politicians, who are at least as thick on the issue. Gordon Brown, for example. David Milliband, for another. I could go on and on and on.
This is my favourite Cancun video though, Bureaucrats Gone Wild:

You’ve probably all already seen it, so apologies if that’s the case. I know the tune in the video but can’t name the artist – 60’s number?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Well, there’s our scientific consensus in action! We must believe our scientific brain-trust!
This is somewhat reminiscent of the Man-show and their petition to end woman suffrage. They got several signatures, too, from women.

“I know the tune in the video but can’t name the artist – 60′s number?”
Tequilla, by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass

Yes, I’m entirely for replacing all the Di-Hydrogen Monoxide consumption with consumption of PURE ETHANOL!
Save the enviroment, and live in a drunken stupor…Wait, it seems the people at Cancun already are doing nothing but CHOOH consumption.
Max 🙂

Without DHMO, I would have to consume ethanol straight up. That could be deadly.
Like CFL’s, these folks don’t light up very quickly. But, after the truth comes out, they will claim they knew the whole thing was a joke. And are still entitled to tell us how we have to live.
As for dismantling the U.S. economy, who needs the U.N.? We are doing a good job of that all by ourselves.

Oops. That was supposed to be “many more”. Sorry.

Jeez, a high school sophomore should be able to figure that out in about five seconds of rumination! It would be interesting to see who signed, frankly I’m curious just who attendeds these things anyway? Scientists? Politicians? Bloggers? Certianly seems quite a bit more ticky-tackey than the Save the Planet Conceit and Pomp of Copenhagen.

I have been the chief operator of a DHMO company for almost 30 years! They’ll probably want to imprison me! I’ve been shipping DHMO through a pipeline directly to 400 homes, 24 hours a day. Uh oh! I’m in trouble!

President Bush left Obama with the Gulf of Mexico filled with the stuff.

I use a gaseous state of HOH to produce another very dangerous type of energy. The HOH state I use can cause severe burns if engulfed, if discharged with great enough kinetic energy it will lacerate and/or sever limbs. When it is returned to its liquid state, the purity is such that if consumbed over extended periods of time, may leach nutrients from the bloodstream and cause severe anemia.
And yes, I’m linking this for all to see (at least those I can reach).

Max@10:01…Come on now. Since when is CH00H considered ethanol. It has been over 40 years since my chem. classes and even I remember that there are 2 carbons and a single oxygen in ethanol C2H50H. Or is this an attempt to see how little attention is paid by the readers of this blog?

They MUST release the list of names – wikidlecher would.

Water is fatal if inhaled? I’m inhaling some now at around 20000 parts per million.

It may be satire but it actually proves a very interesting point that is exploited by nearly all con artists.
You start with a proposition that you know that the target will be sympathetic to and will want to believe. The rest is easy and it clearly demonstrates how easy it is to sell man-made global warming guilt-trip. (after all, particularly in the West, we all tend to feel a little bit guilty about the fact that we live better off than any generation that has ever lived and far better off than 6 billion others currently alive)
It is the same principle used by big box electronics stores all the time. The target has just purchased a wonderful expensive piece of electronics or new speakers (where markup is perhaps 20% or less, and where the price has often been discounted with rebates and with a “guaranteed low price”). The next step is for the sales person to convince the target that in order to get the best performance from their purchase they cannot possibly use ordinary copper wires to connect the electronics. The customer is naturally proud of the new purchase and will often throw in a couple of hundred extra dollars at some “special” cables with special properties (no discount). Unwittingly the target has just bought a product with a mark up of several hundred percent and one that will not make one wit of audible or visible difference (compared to adequate spec ordinary cables) – despite all the nonsense marketing technobable and custom packaging.
The fact that this type of “con” works every day out in the open and that nobody bats an eye is an indictment of our western school system. Nobody is being taught critical thinking anymore. The latest generation appears to have an even higher percentage of sheeple than the last. Where this will take us nobody really knows but, for sure, despite all our technology, Western Society appears especially vulnerable to manipulation by con artists and the powerful people pulling the strings behind Can’tcon know this all to well.

In case any of you haven’t seen the facts about DHMO, here is one link.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Sounds like pretty dangerous stuff. Did you know they’re finding this stuff in virtually everyone’s urine? I hear they’ve never tested a brain cell sample of any mammal that did NOT contain DHMO… Heh.

Dave Springer says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:03 am
Dihydrogen monoxide is a widely used industrial solvent which is harmless in pure liquid form but evaporates into a powerful greenhouse gas when exposed to air.
Not quite harmless – very high doses are in fact toxic to humans. It is also, as pointed out above, harmful if inhaled in large quantities.

Jeremy says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:47 am
…The target has just purchased a wonderful expensive piece of electronics or new speakers (where markup is perhaps 20% or less, and where the price has often been discounted with rebates and with a “guaranteed low price”). The next step is for the sales person to convince the target that in order to get the best performance from their purchase they cannot possibly use ordinary copper wires to connect the electronics. The customer is naturally proud of the new purchase and will often throw in a couple of hundred extra dollars at some “special” cables with special properties (no discount). Unwittingly the target has just bought a product with a mark up of several hundred percent and one that will not make one wit of audible or visible difference (compared to adequate spec ordinary cables) – despite all the nonsense marketing technobable and custom packaging.

Whats worse is it’s not just the customers being fooled by this. I’ve talked to ex-employees of such places who will swear to me that Monster HDMI cables will make a huge difference someone’s audio/visual experience. I then very slowly explain how digital signals work. Some of them understand but fail to see how it matters in the discussion, not until later anyway. Don’t look at every employee of such places and think they’re a con artist, many of them actually believe the crap they’re spouting.

Well what d’ya know! … I’m a follower too!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_scfe5YzN958/RmzKrzOdBsI/AAAAAAAAAKI/OkoAkjvHWKk/s1600-h/Larson+-+Sheep+Chatup.gif

Well,for one thing water should properly be called ‘hydrogen hydroxide’..not ‘dihydrogen monoxide’..since it contains 1 negatively charged hydrogen ion and 1 positively charged OH hydroxiide ion…which yields neutral water..there really is no compound containing 2 hydrogen atoms or ions that is referred to as ‘dihydrogen’

Not quite harmless – very high doses are in fact toxic to humans. It is also, as pointed out above, harmful if inhaled in large quantities
presumably you would drown in it
Steve

“Tequilla?”
Oh! No! I feel “The Big Shoe Dance” coming on! Oh! No!

I use the Dihydrogen Monoxide bit every semester, including the Penn and Teller video and a couple of very official-looking “news reports,” in an ongoing but ultimately futile attempt to make my students pay attention to what they’re buying into.
Back in 2004 the city of Aliso Viejo in California almost banned Styrofoam cups at city-sponsored events after learning that the dangerous chemical was used in their making. It was put on the city agenda by a paralegal who, according to City Manager David J. Norman, “did bad research.” (Local officials nearly fall for H2O hoax – MSNBC).
Of course, not all is lost. Norman said they may still ban the cups because, “If you get Styrofoam into the water and it breaks apart, it’s virtually impossible to clean up.”
Or to put it another way — the foam can pollute the dihydrogen monoxide.

It’s crystalline form has even been to used construct synthetic humans apparently.

Also, DHMO is created when hydrocarbons are burned. We must ban combustion of hydrocarbons.

Get rid of the Di-hydrogen monoxide. That’s the sea level rise problem solved then.

R Taylor says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:41 am
Not that it would matter to the signers, but the claim that DHMO is fatal if inhaled is false. Anyone breathing the natural atmosphere inhales it with every breath, and most of us die of other causes.

The gaseous form is pretty harmless to breathe (if at room temperature), but the liquid form can kill you if inhaled in sufficient quantities, as noted by Stephen Lewis at 11:20.

Hu Duck Xing says:
December 8, 2010 at 11:32 am
“Tequilla?”
Oh! No! I feel “The Big Shoe Dance” coming on! Oh! No!
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Found it:

Pretty funny dude!

The one I love to quote relates to those “it’s one atom away from . . .” some bad chemical or another. Today, you are breathing in material that is ONE ATOM AWAY FROM THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN ZYCLONE B!!. Air is 78% N2. Take away one N, substitute a C and you have the CN ion.

It seems they were ‘partying like there was no tomorrow’ when the Cancun conference began. Perhaps the delegates were left with plenty of goodwill but just sufficient brain power to sign these foolish petitions – or any more dangerous documents foisted on them by the organizers of the conference. The upshot: the organizers and their cronies could continue to celebrate for some time but for the rest of us, the party would be over.

Re: Ken Harvey: December 8, 2010 at 12:05 pm
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😉
Indeed. “Stop sea level rise. Ban dihydrogen monoxide.”
Perhaps this is what was meant when Pres. Obama said “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

Hu McCulloch says:
December 8, 2010 at 12:08 pm
R Taylor says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:41 am
Not that it would matter to the signers, but the claim that DHMO is fatal if inhaled is false. Anyone breathing the natural atmosphere inhales it with every breath, and most of us die of other causes.
The gaseous form is pretty harmless to breathe (if at room temperature), but the liquid form can kill you if inhaled in sufficient quantities, as noted by Stephen Lewis at 11:20.
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Simple experiment: Jump into the pool (sans breathing apparatus,) submerge your head, inhale. Note the effects.

Hahaha. Classic.

“John Eggert says:
December 8, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Oxygen too is toxic, if breathed in a pressurized environment. That is why deep sea diving “air” is up to 98% helium.”
Isn’t the Helium in deep sea diving tanks replacing Nitrogen? Take out the Oxygen and you have a dead diver.

Hi Stonyground (10:46). The reason that the exception proves the rule is that for it to be an exception there must be a rule, by implication.
Hi Jeremy (10:47). Yes, the audio cable con has to be the worst snake oil business of them all (except for AGW, of course).

What can you say. The Di-Hydrogen Monoxide snare isn’t even new, that site has been around for years. You’d think they would have heard of it by now.
If you’re familiar with the standard chemical nomenclature, the very name gives it away. Of course, the Progressives tend rather strongly to avoid technical subjects in their education. Too much reality, I think.

When your High Priest/imam/Rabbi tells you to sign, you sign. Can’t upset the faith!

Dave Andrews says:
December 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm

I would’nt get carried away with this. You have no idea how many people may have refused to sign, or asked awkward questions. (They would obviously not have made the final video)
This is just spin, adopting the same tactics as any pro AGW group. It shows and means nothing.

It shows how gullible they are; it shows none of them have had a chemistry class in their life; and it shows extreme herd mentality.
And the lesson obtained means we should also question the intelligence of all those who signed the petition. We don’t have to worry about those who didn’t sign; hopefully there were a few who were brave enough to ask probing questions, but I’ll ask them:
Hey, CFACT students, was there ANYBODY that knew what dihydrogen monoxide was, or that hesitated signing a petition to criple the U.S. economy?
You can’t automatically assume the counter argument–we’ll see what their response is.

This DHMO stuff is causing all kinds trouble in SE Australia at the moment. It’s damaged my kitchen ceiling and destroyed a bridge on the way to work. Awful stuff

Dave Andrews says:
December 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm
I would’nt get carried away with this. You have no idea how many people may have refused to sign, or asked awkward questions. (They would obviously not have made the final video)
This is just spin, adopting the same tactics as any pro AGW group. It shows and means nothing.
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Dave’s a total buzz-kill.
And if you truly believe what you wrote, I suggest you try the experiment yourself. As the saying goes, ‘There are none so blind as those who will not see”. Zealots, on all sides, tend to be blind.
The key here is the zealots on the AGW side are being used by governments to gain power and redistribute wealth (mostly to their own friends and pockets).

I can understand how people could fall for this once…
But these eco alarmists have fallen for it multiple times. That does not show an understandable oversight, that shows complete stupidity.
This is the third such video I have seen where ecomentalists fall for this banning water rubbish.
I am finding it hard to believe that these people are falling for it again… I would not thought it possible to get people with that yet again!

The answer is punish the Americans and establish an all-powerful world government with the power to tax the west and its imperialist cabal.
Now…. what was the question?

Quote: “I would’nt get carried away with this. You have no idea how many people may have refused to sign, or asked awkward questions. (They would obviously not have made the final video)”
It clearly states in the video that EVERYONE that they approached and asked to sign, did so. So there was no video available of anyone declining, because they did not find anyone who did decline.
That is how stupid those ecoalarmists are. If it matches their pattern that they continuously condition themselves to follow, then they will automatically knee-jerk thoughtlessly into supporting their cause due to the repeatedly conditioned reflex response.

Headline suggestion
“CANCUN CLIMATOLOGY CARBON COPIER CABAL CONVINCED TO CO-OPERATE WITH CON”

Rational Debate says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:13 am
“… are all of the delegates involved in the negotiations? Is there just one per country?”
I don’t know about Cancun but Autralia’s delegation to Copenhagen was over 100.

gcb says: December 8, 2010 at 10:57 am
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Not quite harmless – very high doses are in fact toxic to humans. It is also, as pointed out above, harmful if inhaled in large quantities.
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Mostly harmless?

@HaroldW
“Mostly Harmless”
A fellow Douglas Adams fan, I suspect.
RIP, DA. Wish you were still with us and sorting the telephone-hygienists and PR 2 Watt incandescents out!

On the serious side, it is doubtful that any of those signing the petitions where actually delegates. More likely they were just kids (okay maybe twenty-somethings) manning the booths in the exhibit hall.
For some pictures of the booths see Dr. Roy Spencer’s website:
http://www.drroyspencer.com
Of course, you can draw your own conclusions about the itelligence and/or education of those manning the booths.

Executive Summary Special Climate Change Program 2009-2012 Mexico
http://www.cop16.mx/en/mexicos-actions/executive-summary-special-climate-change-program-20092012-mexico/

Publish the petitions!
They signed it whilst in a public event, and most were probably on the public payroll at the actual time they signed it.
When you sign a petition it is generally accepted that the petition will become part of publicly available information.
Publish it!!

its funny, but really its sad. ok mostly its sad.
somehow i think that if the people who were going to these meetings had to pay for it out of their own pocket, there would be many fewer individuals who felt strongly enough to travel across the planet to “save the world”
i want to hear the opinion of the guys that had to buy their own plane ticket.

Peter Miller says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:18 am
This is a very serious question indeed:
Which is more dangerous: di-hydrogen monoxide, or oxygen di-hydride?
Perhaps the good folks at Real Climate could help, they like to think they are scientists.
Isn’t oxygen di-hydride flammable? Hydrogen is flammable in the presence of Oxygen.
This oxygen di-hydride is probably both flammable and explosive…
Stay well away from the stuff… it’s much worse than di-hydrogen monoxide

RockyRoad says:
December 8, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Dave Andrews says:
December 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm
I would’nt get carried away with this. You have no idea how many people may have refused to sign, or asked awkward questions. (They would obviously not have made the final video)
This is just spin, adopting the same tactics as any pro AGW group. It shows and means nothing.
It shows how gullible they are; it shows none of them have had a chemistry class in their life; and it shows extreme herd mentality.
And the lesson obtained means we should also question the intelligence of all those who signed the petition. We don’t have to worry about those who didn’t sign; hopefully there were a few who were brave enough to ask probing questions, but I’ll ask them:
Hey, CFACT students, was there ANYBODY that knew what dihydrogen monoxide was, or that hesitated signing a petition to criple the U.S. economy?
You can’t automatically assume the counter argument–we’ll see what their response is.
Conformity and compliance are often survival traits, unless your a lemming or a mark.

I have to disagree with this statement, “Well, there are some English words that should be banned from use because their meanings are very confusing in relation to similar words in common use. “Suffrage” is one and “restive” is another. I’m sure others can come up with man[y] more.”
The goal should be to educate poeple rather than “idiot-down” a language. A person’s lack of understanding says something about them rather than something about anything else…

Glad everybody has enjoyed the video so much!
A few people have wondered whether anybody knew what dihydrogen monoxide actually was and caught on. Surprisingly, not a single person did! Our CFACT Collegians students wandered the halls for a couple of hours collecting signatures for the petitions, and while some people didn’t sign because they didn’t know enough about it, no one was intelligent enough to call us out on the trick!
You gotta laugh, but it really is saddening to realize how clueless these people are.
On a more serious note, we caught up with IPCC chair Pachauri last week and asked him about the absence of any warming for the past 15 years. You’ll love the shocked look on his face–“no warming?!!” =)
Don’t forget to follow us on Twitter @CFACT for more live updates. We have a big press release tomorrow with Dr. Roy Spencer, stay tuned!

The most alarming thing is that this DHMO gag is at least 20 years old.
People were running this gag on Green candidates in NZ in the early 90’s (and yes, predictably, many of them fell for it).
Ignorance and arrogance is such an unseemly combination, isn’t it?

Peter Miller says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:18 am
Which is more dangerous: di-hydrogen monoxide, or oxygen di-hydride?
Peter,
I would be VERY careful with oxygen dihydride if you have any since many hydrides decompose to explosive hydrogen gas when they come in contact w/ water. Oxygen dihydride may be one of them.
BAC

It isn’t “dihydrogen monoxide” in any case. It is hydrogen hydroxide, (HOH), even a worse pollutant, with the log of hydrogen ion concentration of 7 times the minimum of 1! Anyone with a high school education should know the dangers of hydroxide.

This is a demonstration on how uninformed people are.

In parallel news, there is currently a campaign to stop the Pacific gateway pipeline in British Columbia because it goes “through the Great Bear Rainforest,” and will ruin “pristine wilderness,” that has the simple folk who read the Huffington Post in a frenzy.
“Athabasca Tar Sands Oil Pipeline Threatens Bears And Other Animals In Pristine Canadian Wilderness”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/athabasca-tar-sands-oil-pipeline_n_793389.html#comments
Except that the pipeline doesn’t got through the GBRF or “pristine wilderness” – unless you define “pristine wilderness” as a long existing railway and highway corridor with several cities and many towns along it.
By the way, in case you don’t already get it, don’t believe ANYTHING the greenies are saying about the oil sands. It is a very, very, very fat cash cow that they are trying very hard to milk/extort.

You may have seen that there’s been a massive spill of DHMO in Eastern Australia. A million square km of land has been rendered useless for agriculture for some time.

Petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide:
Sign name below:
1. Albert Gore

I can’t stop laughing. It’s the best scam I’ve seen yet. Especially in Cancun!

Excellent event! It would be even more spectacular if they could get the signatures of some of the kooks-in-chief such as Pachauri.

So..where is the gold footage of Cancun delegates falling for this “gag”.
I cannot find any link

It would be very interesting to know if any of the Australian Delegation signed these two petitions?

I have a severe di-hydrogen-monoxide habit. I take it everyday in large quantities (like almost a gallon). I certainly can’t go more than a day without it, and if you were to put me on cold turkey, I’d die painfully within a matter of days.
This vicious stuff must not be taken lightly!

Stonyground says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:46 am
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On the subject of words that sound as if they mean the opposite of what they actually mean. I always found the phrase “The exception that proves the rule” baffling.

Waall, Stoney, it’s a matter of the nature of the particular exception. I.e., it is one that shows that the rule is actually true. The one calm redhead you know turns out to be a dye job. The token white on a basketball team. Etc.

@StonyGround 10:46, @Megawati 1:13 and @ BrianH 3:02
The original saying is:
“It’s the exception that proofs the rule”
— i.e. if you find an exception to a supposed rule , then the rule is false.
To “proof” something is to test it; hence “50 proof whiskey” and “proof range”.

‘The exception that proves the rule’ is a philosophical concept.
If there is no exception, there is no rule.
Kinda like the ‘if a tree falls in the forest’ question.

AC says: “…footnote for MAX @ 12/10 10:01 – wouldn’t ethenol/ CHOOH be better described as Carbonic Hydro DiOxy Hydrogen?”
Then jorgekafkazar says:
No, CHOOH is not ethanol. A reasonable synonym for Ethanol would be ‘methyl
carbinol.’ Ooooooo! Sounds nasty, doesn’t it? It is a toxic chemical, an industrial
solvent and a gasoline contaminant, kills over 100,000 Americans every year,
and does over $200 billion in damages in the US alone. Maybe we should ban
the stuff. Oh, wait…
ethenol ethanol ethynol
Not a chemist–is the central vowel significant?

Okay, so it’s an old and fairly well known trick CFACT pulled on these clowns, but that makes it even worse that they didn’t spot it. Still, they should give CFACT credit for recycling.

Life is easier when you do not think. That is why these people can afford to waste so much time in Cancun – imbibing hazardous chemicals like dihydrogen monoxide.

They remind me of my father’s sheep, except these ones are running toward the danger to humans (toward the anti-human ideology).
My father raised goats and sheep together. Goats are smarter than sheep, better able to detect a predator (primarily coyotes in the farming area). When the goats judged they were at risk they’d run from the pasture to the barn area – and the sheep would blindly follow. He didn’t lose many.
And by copying goats sheep would achieve what they never would have thought they could do – get over high fences. But then the dumb beasts were on the outside of the protective fence, hopefully remembering how they got there thus maybe how to get back.
Fed by the high priests of “science”, whose incompetence is partly revealed here: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_hidden_flaw_in_greenhouse

Oh yeah. I’d live to see the list of “enlightened” people that signed these petitions.
The “brilliant” folks gather to determine the fate of the world. DEFUND/DISBAND THE UNITED NATIONS.

Did any of the people approached to sign the petition ask whether this was a joke when di-hydrogen monoxide was mentioned? If so, what percentage of those approached signed the petition and what percentage recognized the joke? In other words, other than the 8-10 people pictured in the video, did all the others recognize the ruse or did this video reflect a representative sample of those approached?

>DirkH says:
>December 8, 2010 at 11:09 am
>Especially in its pure liquid form it is dangerous – it’s very hungry for ions, that’s why >you shouldn’t drink destillated water or use it as coolant for your car – it’ll corrode the >radiator.
That’s not true. Pure, distilled H2O is extremely stable. In fact, it’s an electrical insulator. It’s the dissolved ions of other elements that are hungry for stability and creating corrosion as a result. If you can, you should use distilled water in your car coolant, it will keep that corrosion from happening. The US Navy uses distilled water for cooling much of it’s electronic equipment, and it uses filters and ion-exchange devices to keep it as pure as possible to keep the pipes in the equipment from corroding.

Although the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide are very real, by exercising caution and common sense, you can rest assured knowing that your Government is doing everything possible to keep you and your family safe.
Now there’s a scary thought.

Wide eyed eco-kooks will bite on any troll bait that looks like a protest.
Eco-kook women are the dumbest and easiest sex you can find anywhere…bar none..they are so gullible it’s almost boring.

Ask these “scientists” if they’ve seen any snipes, or even jackalopes, lately….

“When the term “evidence” is used, it refers to evidence according to the scientific method: testable, replicable, empirical evidence. Anything else is GIGO hogwash.”
Being a non-scientist, I’ll go a step further, I’ll say that some of the stuff presented as evidence (as defined about) is better described as bilge.
I’m pretty much a what-I-see-with-my-own-eyes is evidence and some of that I’ll have to cross-check some how.
This row has been pretty well hoed, but when the magnitude of the “corrections” and “adjustments” is bigger than te change being claimed, and when in my 70-odd years on the planet–all lot of them out-of-doors–it isn’t as warm as it used to be I think skepticism is appropriate.
Why don’t you go have a slug of ethanol and hydrogen hydroxide over solid-phase DHMO and see if you can get your brain thawed enough to be useful.

HippieJoe, I now think you are way wrong about the women-folk (you have some pretty severe evidence against you), but I have to wonder if you are a young man, perhaps high-school or junior high-school age, like I was when I not only believed that, but depended on it for any hopes of companionship. Although “boring” never came to mind.

Goes to show what great scientists those warmists are.

You got it backwards. The people asked if Obama was a Kensyan were leftists, and they were incensed at the allegation that he was born in, er, Kensyia?
I like these nuclear-free zones – no protons or neutrons allowed! (Or are they ourlawig DNA?)

Curiousgeorge says:
December 8, 2010 at 9:34 am
Let’s just get to the bottom line, hey? Ban Homo Sapiens and be done with it. That is the goal, right? Right? Hello! Hello, is anybody there!?
Josef Stalin: ‘Death solves all problems. No man no problem.’

The petition itself is a willful lie.
The authors of the petition know full well that water does not need to be banned, yet they state otherwise.
Penn & Teller lied when they said the petition signers were never lied to.
REPLY: and you lied (and violated site policy requiring a valid email address) when you claimed your email address is: “just_a@comment.org”
But this dishonesty while claiming others are dishonest, is typical for humorless drones like yourself. – Anthony

Pedant alert!!!!
Commentor (sic) says:
December 10, 2010 at 10:55 am
Yes I’ll give you that asking for water to be banned was a lie. The properties described were not though.
All it was for was to show that people sign petitions without thinking. Others pick pedantic little semantic holes.
DaveE.

A girl at our uni tried to convince people to sign a petition against CO2 on the grounds that it would leave earth and extinguish the sun. (Yes, extinguish) She then said that after putting out the sun, it would return and cause further global warming.
This is what happens when people with no scientific knowledge are put in charge of scientific policy.

Yes, this is pervasive. As a person steps away from the narrow range of expertise that they exercise day after day, where there is at least some chance, that at least some of their beliefs, are eventually scraped against reality, their competence plummets rapidly. A professor outside of their subfield looks like a student. Outside of their field, like a high-school student. Or grade-school. Thus repeated media stories like “OMG, Harvard Business School graduates don’t know how the seasons work!”. What part of business school graduate students having a middle-school understanding of astronomy comes as a surprise? Headshake. Not only is the drop-off more severe than people expect, but people rarely realize when they themselves have stepped off the cliff. All it takes is a little flaw – a bit of nuttiness, an insufficiently critical community, an absence of humility, to go from being a Nobel-prize physicist, to being a Nobel-prize physicist who believes in telepathic dogs. The two look almost identical. But the integrity is lost. Not a few professors emeriti get that one extra step too far disconnected from their field’s checks and balances, and go a bit nutty.
Now, let’s get back to discussing climate change.

I seem to have misplaced the citation supporting that assertion–or do you know all scientists well enough to know that?

These people aren’t just mis-educated, they are evil. I saw the look on one guys face when the petitioner told him it would reduce our GDP by 6%. He smiled and said that he was for that. They would like us to be in dark ages poverty, closer to the Earth, in the mud.

This petition shows again that people can be persuaded to believe any fallacy, as long as it is worded right.
For example, that IF our president would sign the Copenhagen treaty, that he would sign away our freedom, democracy and prosperity away forever.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/oct/20/christopher-monckton/british-climate-skeptic-says-copenhagen-treaty-thr/

Rob says:
December 21, 2010 at 2:37 am
The problem with your post is you mix fact and opinion. Clearly you can refute a fact, but an opinion is not necessarily a fact, and therefore is not subject to the same rules as facts when refuting them.
Once you can understand the difference between fact and opinion and what is the basis of both, your posts will tend to make more sense, instead of bordering on hysterical rantings.

I’ll confess candidly that I don’t accept anything in the Huffington Post without additional support. I’m guessing that their definition of “scientist” includes a lot of squishy people that abuse the word.

Apparently you do not know what ad hominem is either. And one post or 100 does not change the nature of each post. My post was factual, yours borders on hysteria again. Whether I had a bad day or not, yours seems to be constant.