James Delingpole has found something interesting:
He writes:
Bilderberg. Whether you believe it’s part of a sinister conspiracy which will lead inexorably to one world government or whether you think it’s just an innocent high-level talking shop, there’s one thing that can’t be denied: it knows which way the wind is blowing. (Hat tips: Will/NoIdea/Ozboy)
At its June meeting in Sitges, Spain (unreported and held in camera, as is Bilderberg’s way), some of the world’s most powerful CEOs rubbed shoulders with notable academics and leading politicians. They included: the chairman of Fiat, the Irish Attorney General Paul Gallagher, the US special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke, Henry Kissinger, Bill Gates, Dick Perle, the Queen of the Netherlands, the editor of the Economist…. Definitely not Z-list, in other words.
Which is what makes one particular item on the group’s discussion agenda so tremendously significant.
The 58th Bilderberg Meeting will be held in Sitges, Spain 3 – 6 June 2010. The Conference will deal mainly with Financial Reform, Security, Cyber Technology, Energy, Pakistan, Afghanistan, World Food Problem, Global Cooling, Social Networking, Medical Science, EU-US relations.
Yep, that’s right. Global Cooling. Which means one of two things. Either it was a printing error.
Or the global elite is perfectly well aware that global cooling represents a far more serious and imminent threat to the world than global warming, but is so far unwilling to admit it except behind closed doors.
Let me explain briefly why this is a bombshell waiting to explode.
Read his entire post here
h/t to David Archibald and WUWT reader Schadow
I have been saying this for years. Warming may be an inconvenience but cooling if it is extensive will be a catastrophe.
Ice age coming?
the “politics” continues…in “good faith”…
27 Sept: ABC: PM to chair climate change committee
By online political correspondent Emma Rodgers
Ms Gillard extended the invitation to the Coalition to join the committee with the caveat that they must agree climate change is real and that a carbon price is needed.
“We are saying very clearly to the Coalition that we would ask them to work in good faith with this committee,” she said…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/27/3023007.htm
Fits in rather nicely with your previous guest post on SST’s and Glaciers.
There exists a lot of misunderstanding about warming, moisture, droughts and cooling. A cooler world is a disaster, even though water shortage was accurately predicted some 20 years ago. Follow this link: “Heat waves as a result of global cooling?”
http://www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/global/climate2.htm#global_cooling_heat-wave
The people will not be happy when they try to scare us about Global Cooling. Not after being being so brow-beat over Global Warming for the last 20 years.
“Global Cooling”
YEP!
Since “global cooling” came right after “food problem” maybe it was supposed to be “global coolers” i.e. refrigerators for the third world.
Or maybe not.
You already had this on June 10 and June 22
I can see cooly now the warm is gone!
I can see all obstacles in my way!
Gone are the rising seas that scared us blind
It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
ice-agey day
It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
ice-agey day
M. Simon says: “…Warming may be an inconvenience but cooling if it is extensive will be a catastrophe.”
Warming won’t even be much of an inconvenience if we don’t let certain parties try to spend our way out of it to the tune of whatever-comes-after-trillions. Cooling, yes, potentially catastrophic, but could be worse than that if we first try to prevent natural warming and reduce our resources. Certain parties are trying to drive the price of coal down with cap & betrayal to the point that China can loot our largest reserve of energy unimpeded.
It’s probably in relation to “how we get some global cooling via geo-engineering”.
I wonder if Anthony (He is the Anti-Christ) Watts will now be accepted into society and invited to conferences etc now he is being proven right.
Really. Weather(sic) cooling or warming, these idiots have proved as useful as tits on a bull. Undoubtedly the release is to inspire ‘Weather Derivatives” or some such BS.
Since the conference is held in Spain perhaps the agenda item in question should have been titled [with apologies in advance] “Besame Cooler.”
Perhaps they wanted to discuss how the reality of global cooling would affect the selling of the warming fantasy. How inconvenient.
Set up another UN panel with a mandate to find global cooling and let the two factions battle it out. But don’t forget that they will also be charged with finding the anthropomorphic fingerprint in the signal so that ‘action’ can be taken.
My money would be on a finding that CO2 has a negative feedback to temperatures with a phase delay caused by ocean induced lag (Latest; new study finds etc.) That way the global tax system does not have to be changed or plans modified, climate scientists have saved the day and politicians are off the hook.
Cheers,
Manuel,
Confidential Conference Catering (Si Si Si),
Sitges,
Spain.
It’s a hoax site. The Bilderberg Group does not have an official web site and they don’t publish their agenda. The site is owned by a fringe Dutch publisher called Uitgeverij Van Praag under the alias Rene Van Praag. They are currently promoting a book called Bilderberg Conferences: Organization and operation of a secret transatlantic network. See here: http://tinyurl.com/2dhfc9t
Anyone know which ‘Professor’ did the Global Cooling briefing at this meeting ???
This unexpected inclusion in the Bilderberg agenda was noted by the wilder conspiracy theory blogosphere some time ago. However, the general consensus (if one may use that word) there was that “Global Cooling” was indeed referring to geoengineering, as “Notconvinced” also speculates.
If nothing else, it is a good example of how a rumour, a misprint or a small inaccuracy can be eventually be spun into a narrative.
I would speculate in turn that we are not done with Global Warming and the demonisation of CO2 for a good while yet. As the theory is tweaked into “Climate Change ” and “Climate Disruption” it becomes more and more difficult to disprove.
Alas, if we are really in for a new “Little Ice Age” we are, in the UK where I am, seriously ill-eqipped to deal with it. We are already receiving much increased utility bills and are facing heating gas and electricity shortages in the near future in any event which we are trying to counteract with a program of wind turbines, and er…at present not much else. It will not be pretty if it does occur.
I stated James Delingpole’s concluding sentance, “We need a Global Warming Nuremberg,” back when Climate Audit ran with the story about “The New Leaderboard at NASA,” (when 1934 regained its spot as “warmest year” at NASA, albeit briefly.)
http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/08/a-new-leaderboard-at-the-us-open/
Lets see, McIntyre posted on August 8, 2007. I was so hopping mad about Hansen re-readjusting the readjusted adjustments that I wrote comments McIntyre wouldn’t post, one of which mentioned a Nuremberg for Hansen.
I wound up raving about a Nuremberg for Hansen over at the Accuweather site, and Boy Oh Boy, did I ever earn myself a backlash. It likely did me good. One must learn to stand up for truth somewhere.
Now it is three years later, and Hansen recently got a donation of something like $700,000 from some fool in Japan. This stuff still makes my blood boil, however I’m learning to avoid bulging out the veins in my forehead so much. These quasi-scientists aren’t worth the gloom, when the sun is shining.
I hope the sun breaks out very brightly in November, when people vote. There should be some hearings in congress. There will then be no way to “hide the decline,” and I think some Hansen underlings will be more than glad to spill the beans, especially as Hansen hasn’t always been the kindest boss.
That could well be Hansen’s Nuremberg.
RE: “Henry says:
September 26, 2010 at 11:10 pm
You already had this on June 10 and June 22”
Your links do not lead to this story. They lead to a story about Graham changing his Cap and Trade vote, and a thing about penguins dying of cold.
This story is news, even if it took since June to percolate to our attention.
I’ve heard the Queen of the Netherlands is quite the authority on the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and Siberian tree-ring proxies.
“We need a “Global Warming” Nuremberg.” concludes the article. Obnoxiously.
When are these people going to start working on real problems?
It was estimated that there was global cooling from ~1940 to ~1970.
This resulted in the assertion during the 1960s and 1970s that emissions of sulphur dioxide from power generation were responsible for the cooling, and misanthropes used this to oppose the energy supplies required for industrial civilisation.
Then the cooling trend reversed and it was estimated that there wa global warming from ~1970 to ~2000. This made the global cooling scare untenable by the 1980s.
So, the assertion of anthropogenic global cooling was morphed into an assertion of anthropogenic global warming i.e.
the assertion during the 1980s and (and after) that emissions of carbon dioxide from power generation were responsible for the warming, and misanthropes used this to oppose the energy supplies required for industrial civilisation.
But the global warming stopped around ~2000 and there has been little global warming or cooling since. Indeed, there has been no statistically significant change to global temerature since 1995.
So, now they want to morph the issue back to global cooling?
I look forward to seeing how they intend to do that, and I will continue my three decades of defence against their attacks on the scientific method and the benefits of industrial civilisation.
Richard
I don’t know if the Bilderburgers are an international conspiracy, but I do know that they are great talent spotters, with an eye to the future. Back in the early 90s, guests were filmed arriving at a Bilderburger, including Tony Blair and Mandelson (but, being last-year’s has-beens, I bet they were not at the 2010 convention).
So what (and who) have they ‘spotted’ for the future of climate?
And who gave the conference lecture for the coolists? Lief has been a bit quiet recently, you don’t think…… 😉
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OR
They want to discuss ways of cooling the world through geoengineering??? I did see Bill Gates’ name mentioned.
You might be discussing a phantom. ‘Global cooling’ with B. Gates
present, probably refers to geoengineering; mitigating the warming.
Given the cyclic mature of climate, though not of a too regular cycle since inputs produce a near chaotic system, we should be prepared for both. But, cooling seems to be on the cards at the moment and pushing energy prices through the roof to pay for some poor low efficiency wind turbines, as is happening in the UK at the moment, is not the best way to prepare for a dip in temperatures.
Furthermore, being a secretive group, don’t you think they would have used the words “Climate Change” if they were aware about a coming cooling world and wanted to discuss it? I have my doubts about Delingpoles take on this but I might be wrong. I hope I’m wrong. :o)
This is indeed sad news if it transpires to be correct. I had been inspired by the ideas of vast swathes of the Canadian North being opened to agriculture, Siberian tundras bestowing bountiful harvests on a world where food could be a future problem. while I find the science behind warming models dodgy, I for one do not welcome global cooling.
Let’s see,
Ireland was hit by severe winters and they don’t buy into man-made global warming.
Fiat President, socialist country of France with part oversight of GM??? EU heavy weight country. Line of power between Paris and Berlin.
Two key US players,
Netherlands’ Queen.
I see a pendulum swing in the right direction.
Talking About Global Cooling? About time too.
Take a look at some recent reports…
September 27, 2010
WEATHER: SNOWY NIGHT IS THE COLDEST IN 30 YEARS
Winter has already begun in some parts of the country
Britain saw its first snowfalls yesterday in a clear sign that summer is well and truly over. Hill walkers in Scotland struggled along slippery mountain paths after the coldest September temperatures for nearly 30 years. The Cairngorms, which enjoyed a record-breaking winter sports season that saw slopes stay open until Easter, was hit with one of the earliest snowfalls in living memory. The coldest temperatures were recorded at Tyndrum, where the mercury fell to -4.4ºC (24ºF) and Tulloch Bridge, which shivered at -4.2ºC (24.4ºF).
Ski resort officials said that although there was not enough snow for winter sports to start, they were hopeful of another bumper year on the slopes. Met office forecaster Mark Seltzer said: “It was very chilly up there. These are the coldest temperatures recorded at this time of year since the stations opened.” Other cold spots included Exeter airport, at just below freezing, and -1.5ºC in South Wales.
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01 Sep 2010
Coldest August for 17 years
Last month was the coldest August for 17 years, recording the chilliest average temperatures since 1993 without a single “hot day”, figures show.
In the last 100 years, only 22 Augusts have been wetter. Heavy rain across much of the country and thick cloud in the south east made for a disappointing end to the summer holiday. The month also saw the coldest temperatures recorded in August for 23 years, with mercury falling to 12.8ºC in Edgbaston, Birmingham.
Last week a number of nights were “notably” cold, and by the end of the month there had not been a single day on which temperatures topped 27ºC, forecasters said. Weather consultant Philip Eden said average temperatures this August had been at their lowest since 1993. He added: ”This is more a reflection of the warmth of recent Augusts rather than anything exceptional. During the last 100 years, 30 Augusts were cooler, 63 were warmer, and seven had the same overall mean temperature.”
Conditions were notably bad towards the latter part of the month when there was widespread wet weather in the southern regions. Data showed rainfall in England and Wales was almost one and a half times the average amount, at 106.2mm. In the last 100 years, only 22 Augusts have been wetter. In Weybourne, Norfolk, temperatures soared to a high of 26.7ºC, but failed to reach the levels of July when the 30ºC heat in some areas prompted health alerts.
Figures showed England and Wales enjoyed 148 hours of sunshine this month – 25% less than the average. Scotland saw 142 hours of sunshine, meeting its average, and Northern Ireland had better weather than usual, with 192 hours of sunshine.
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17 June 2010
Goldcrest numbers plummet after harsh winter conditions
Britain’s smallest bird, the tiny goldcrest, may have suffered a population crash after being hit extremely hard by the harsh conditions of last winter, the British Trust for Ornithology (BTO) said yesterday.
Confirming fears that the species, which had been increasing in number because of the warmer winters of the past two decades, would suffer a serious reverse in the freeze, the BTO said the number of gardens in which goldcrests were spotted had fallen by almost half.
Across the British Isles, the tiny birds, which, at just 6g each, weigh less than a 10p piece, were seen in 48% fewer gardens between January and March than on average, with declines reaching 60% in Scotland, the South-west and the east of England. The reduction in the number of gardens where goldcrests were resident over the winter months was an “early warning” of possible major declines in the population as a whole, the BTO said.
In winter, goldcrests visit gardens in larger numbers to feed on fat-based foods put out by householders, and in the unusually snowy and icy conditions which gripped the UK and Ireland earlier this year they would be expected to be seen in more gardens. The declines, observed by people taking part in its year-round weekly Garden BirdWatch, suggest a crash in the population at large, the BTO warned.
Dr Tim Harrison, of Garden BirdWatch, said goldcrests were not able to carry much in the way of food reserves and were vulnerable to starvation. Because they are so small – just 9cm (3.5in) long – they also run a higher risk of becoming chilled, he added. Dr Harrison went on: “The goldcrest is a ‘boom-and-bust’ species – after cold winters only a quarter of the autumn population may be left to breed, but numbers can rally with pairs sometimes rearing more than 15 chicks in the following spring and summer.”
Other small birds also suffered in the cold weather, with tiny wrens seen in 22% fewer gardens than over the long-term average from 1995 to 2009, and treecreepers spotted in 15% fewer backyards.
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Looks like the élite know the game is up, even if the BBC, the Guardian, the Independent and the Royal Society don’t.
F. Ross says:
September 26, 2010 at 11:20 pm
I got it!
Catastrophic global cooling interspersed by comparitively momentary warm periods has been the norm in earth’s recent history (~700k years) according to the Vostok cores. This always led me to wonder about the CAGW economic plan, which questioning seems to get us branded as ‘deniers’, anti-science, etc.
Let’s suppose that the AGW issue was negated or incorrect for a moment. Without CAGW to tell us the Ice Age we are believed to be in is ‘over’ we’d be looking at future catastrophic cooling. Would not the economic plans for global cooling also apply to cooling? Namely, that wealthier northern nations invest money into developing third world/tropical areas that wouldn’t be sheeted over in the event of re-glactiation as well as to seek population control of the future host and migrant populations?
Something tells me that tropical real-estate would be highly sought after if much of Europe and North America were under sheets of ice.
Not that I’m saying I believe that’s liekly to happen anytime soon other than in geological/glaciological time but the questions have always nudged at me since the debate reached a boiling point.
Just an internet hoax.
Ice-ages last between 90,000 & 130,000 years, inter-glacials last around 10-15,000 years. The last inter-glacial started about 12,000 years ago. If you look at the ice-core data you will see that clearly. One can see long slow downward trends of ever colder tempreatures, then an about turn to ever increasing temperature, culminating every time with a high squiggly bit that exhibits a downward trend with fluctuations up & down over a 10,000 year-ish period, then plummeting back down colder again. We appear to be at the tail end of one of those squiggly bits it would seem. I call it the “Little Hockey Stick” period at the end of the “Great Squiggly Bit” period, 10,000-15,000 year interglacials, last one started 12,000 years ago? Oh I do wish I was good at sums! I need to get one of those £30M puters I spect.
Bill Gates involved in geoengineering?
Just imagine one morning – an error message on the sky: Sunrise fail, please reinstall the driver.
Yarmy says: (September 27, 2010 at 1:12 am) I’ve heard the Queen of the Netherlands is quite the authority on the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and Siberian tree-ring proxies.
Sarcasm is not a good fit here, Yarmy.
Anybody here think this CO2 schtick will ever counter natural cycles that inexorably lead us to another ice age episode? If we get anything from the ice core record, it is that the next ice salient is due–indeed, it is past due. As a geologist, I don’t believe anything man can do or will do will reverse the inevitable. I’m seriously dismayed that any mention of “cooling” is interpreted as mechanisms being engineered to counter global warming when “global cooling” is the term mentioned, not “cooling the globe” (there IS a difference). Considering how the sun has been behaving recently and replication of natural cycles, whether the Bildebergs intended it that way or not, what we should be looking for are indications of the next global freezing.
I was hoping for this to be featured. To my mind it’s dynamite for the cause! – (or was it a typo)?
Thanks Anthony.
I take the term Global Cooling to mean geo-engineering. This group still has it’s teeth stuck in CAGW because of the $$$ involved. Global cooling is just another mechanism to make cash.
When you hold all the cards, it is easy to deal a winning hand.
Inflate a bubble of “warming” expenditures. If the warming continues, that means that more taxes are needed. If the warming abates, continue to ensure the status quo. If it starts to cool, success and justification! Continue the governance to ensure compliance.
One of the many reasons that Cop15 was such a rush job. They needed to get things in place before the cooling showed that their scheme was just that. On now to cooling and how to exploit whatever scenario occurs. It matters little what particular game is called, they hold all the cards.
Anyone who has been following the story of the “Bilderbergs” for more than the last three years will know that this site is NOT an official Bilderberg site and that the current Bilderberg conferences no longer attract the leaders of the “secret world government” as they have alreasy served their purpose, the mainstream media has been loyally ignoring them for all those years when they did do their business and now it is a joke group set up to ridicule people who still bang on about “Bilderberg conspiracies”.
A glance at this years attendee list shows only wannabes and never-had-beens.
This reality will hurt the feelings of Joe Romm and james hansen. They are very sensitive. It may also choke some cash flow for the tree ring circus.
REPLY: Romm is so “sensitive” that a light breeze will set him off. He reminds me of Fulminate of Mercury – Anthony
Ken Hall says: “…A glance at this years attendee list shows only wannabes and never-had-beens.”
Wannabes and never-had-beens?
I think you jest, sir.
Let’s examine the guest list, shall we?…
“…Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-seven conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.”
BILDERBERG PARTICIPANTS, 2010
HONORARY CHAIRMAN
BEL Davignon, Etienne Vice Chairman, Suez-Tractebel
AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher and Editor, Der Standard
AUT Fischer, Heinz Federal President
AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
BEL Huyghebaert, Jan Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group
CAN Campbell, Gordon Premier of British Columbia
CAN Clark, W. Edmund President and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
CAN Mansbridge, Peter Chief Correspondent, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
CAN McKenna, Frank Deputy Chair, TD Bank Financial Group
CAN Prichard, J. Robert S. President and CEO, Metrolinx
CAN Reisman, Heather M. Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Chairman, Novartis AG
CHE Voser, Peter CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
CHE Waldvogel, Francis A. Chairman, Novartis Venture Fund
DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank AG
DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus SAS
DEU Löscher, Peter Chairman of the Board of Management, Siemens AG
DEU Scholz, Olaf Vice Chairman, SPD
DEU Zetsche, Dieter Chairman, Daimler AG
DNK Eldrup, Anders CEO, DONG Energy
DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Vice President Global Affairs, Haldor Topsøe A/S
DNK Nyrup Rasmussen, Poul Former Prime Minister
ESP Alierta, César Chairman and CEO, Telefónica
ESP Botín, Ana P. Executive Chairman, Banesto
ESP Carvajal Urquijo, Jaime Managing Director, Advent International
ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis CEO, PRISA
ESP Cisneros, Gustavo A. Chairman and CEO, Cisneros Group of Companies
ESP Entrecanales, José M. Chairman, Acciona
ESP León Gross, Bernardino Secretary General, Office of the Prime Minister
ESP Nin Génova, Juan María President and CEO, La Caixa
ESP Polanco, Ignacio Chairman, Grupo PRISA
ESP Rodriguez Inciarte, Matías Executive Vice Chairman, Grupo Santander
ESP Spain, H.M. the Queen of
ESP Zapatero, José Luis Rodríguez Prime Minister
FIN Blåfield, Antti Senior Editorial Writer, Helsingin Sanomat
FIN Katainen, Jyrki Minister of Finance
FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc
FIN Wahlroos, Björn Chairman, Sampo plc
FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman of the Management Board and CEO, AXA
FRA Lauvergeon, Anne Chairman of the Executive Board, AREVA
FRA Montbrial, Thierry de President, French Institute for International Relations
FRA Ramanantsoa, Bernard Dean, HEC Paris Group
GBR Agius, Marcus Chairman, Barclays Bank PLC
GBR Kerr, John Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc.
GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
GBR Oldham, John National Clinical Lead for Quality and Productivity
GBR Taylor, J. Martin Chairman, Syngenta International AG
GBR Williams, Shirley Member, House of Lords
GRC David, George A. Chairman, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A.
GRC Papaconstantinou, George Minister of Finance
GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President, ELIAMEP
INT Almunia, Joaquín Commissioner, European Commission
INT Gucht, Karel de Commissioner, European Commission
INT Kroes, Neelie Commissioner, European Commission
INT Moyo, Dambisa F. Economist and Author
INT Sheeran, Josette Executive Director, United Nations World Food Programme
INT Solana Madariaga, Javier Former Secretary General, Council of the EU
INT Stigson, Björn President, World Business Council for Sustainable Development
INT Tumpel-Gugerell, Gertrude Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank
INT Zoellick, Robert B. President, The World Bank Group
IRL Gallagher, Paul Attorney General
IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
ITA Bernabè, Franco CEO, Telecom Italia S.p.A.
ITA Conti, Fulvio CEO and General Manager, Enel SpA
ITA Elkann, John Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
ITA Monti, Mario President, Universita Commerciale Luigi Bocconi
ITA Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso Former Minister of Finance; President of Notre Europe
ITA Rocca, Gianfelice Chairman, Techint
ITA Scaroni, Paolo CEO, Eni S.p.A.
NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
NLD Hommen, Jan H.M. Chairman, ING Group
NLD Netherlands, H.M. the Queen of the
NLD Rinnooy Kan, Alexander H.G. Chairman, Social and Economic Council of the Netherlands (SER)
NLD Wellink, Nout President, De Nederlandsche Bank
NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
NOR Magnus, Birger Chairman, Storebrand ASA
NOR Myklebust, Egil Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, Norsk Hydro ASA
PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime Minister
PRT Rangel, Paulo Member, European Parliament
PRT Teixeira dos Santos, Fernando Minister of State and Finance
SWE Bäckström, Urban Director General, Confederation of Swedish Enterprise
SWE Bildt, Carl Minister of Foreign Affairs
SWE Renström, Lars President and CEO, Alfa Laval
SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
TUR Çakir, Rusen Journalist
TUR Gürel, Z. Damla Special Adviser to the President on EU Affairs
TUR Koç, Mustafa V. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
TUR Özilhan, Tuncay Chairman, Anadolu Group
TUR Sabanci Dinçer, Suzan Chairman, Akbank
USA Altman, Roger C. Chairman, Evercore Partners Inc.
USA Arrison, Sonia Author and policy analyst
USA Collins, Timothy C. Senior Managing Director and CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
USA Feldstein, Martin S. George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University
USA Ferguson, Niall Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University
USA Gates, William H. Co-chair, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Chairman, Microsoft Corporation
USA Gordon, Philip H. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs
USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company
USA Holbrooke, Richard C. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan
USA Hormats, Robert D. Under Secretary for Economic, Energy and Agricultural Affairs
USA Johnson, James A. Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
USA Keane, John M. Senior Partner, SCP Partners
USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
USA Kravis, Henry R. Founding Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.
USA Lander, Eric S. President and Director, Broad Institute of Harvard and MIT
USA Mathews, Jessica T. President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
USA Mundie, Craig J. Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
USA Naím, Moisés Editor-in-Chief, Foreign Policy
USA Orszag, Peter R. Director, Office of Management and Budget
USA Parker, Sean Managing Partner, Founders Fund
USA Pearl, Frank H. Chairman and CEO, Perseus, LLC
USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
USA Rose, Charlie Producer, Rose Communications
USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
USA Schmidt, Eric CEO and Chairman of the Board, Google
USA Steinberg, James B. Deputy Secretary of State
USA Summers, Lawrence H. Director, National Economic Council
USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC
USA Varney, Christine A. Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust
USA Volcker, Paul A. Chairman, Economic Recovery Advisory Board
USA West, F.J. Bing Author
USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC
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More “movers and shakers,” billionaires and powerful over-achievers in one room than you would need to shape any policy change you can think of.
Ken Hall>> I have no way of checking if that is the official Bilderberg Group site. However, your comment on the participants, that they are “has-beens”, is 100% wrong concerning the supposed Swedish participants. I am from Sweden.
One was our Foreign Minister for the last 4 years (and probably for 4 more, since they won the election last week. One is a member of the most influential business family of Sweden, Jacob Wallenberg. And so on…
I can’t speak for the other countries participants, but when it comes to the Swedes, you are definitely wrong.
Of course, the whole site could be phony, but I’m pretty sure that the people on the list woulnd’t hesitate to have it taken down in seconds. They sure have the connections to do so…
>>Ken:
>>A glance at this years attendee list shows only wannabes and never-had-beens.
That is half the point of Bilderberger, is it not? They try to identify future leaders (wannabees), as that is the best way of influencing future policy – like the UKs New Labour experiment. It was a complete failure, as it happened, but they were Bilderberger before they were influential.
Not sure if this web site is pukka or not. I would tend towards the latter.
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Just a thought…
“Global cooling” could actually be in terms of economics.
Is this a bit old now? At the Grauniad back in June they told the same news…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/jun/14/charlie-skelton-bilderberg-2010
I prefer the Delingpole take on the issue, but I wonder that raking up old has-been news might not be a great idea – unless I’m missing something….
or was it this agenda:
1. Will the Euro Survive?
2. Development in Europe: Europe’s Exit Strategy…On Hold?
3. Do We Have Institutions to Deal With the World Economy?
4. Greece: Lessons and Forward-looking Strategies
5. NATO and Afghanistan: The Practical Agenda for the Alliance
6. Iran and Russia: Economic and Financial Threats to the Alliance
7. The Consequences of War Against Terrorism
8. The Influence of Domestic Issues on American Foreign Policy
9.The Outlook for Japan’s Economy
10. The Future of the U.S. Dollar: Alternative Scenarios
….. which, as agendas go, seems more likely – although GCD could have been a sub-heading under #8.
The above is according to Daniel Estulin http://www.danielestulin.com/en/el-hombre-tras-los-libros/
Obviously both could have been leaked fakes to through off the public but as Daniel has been following the Bilderberg gang for 15 years AND by the higher level nature of the topics I’m leaning strongly towards his as being correct . . . and “Social Networking”? Do you think the folks at this level would put Social Networking as a main topic of discussion?
The change from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change”, and more recently to “Global Climate Disruption”, should have twigged you all to the fact that the climate was switching over to a cooling regime.
In retrospect its all quite clear. The scammers knew we were due for this shift, but also knew that their plans were not yet completed. Its never been about climate – its always been about power.
Kate says: … “DEU Scholz, Olaf Vice Chairman, SPD”
Having this guy as participant says a lot about high profile … LOL
‘They’ knew this interuption in the busy sun, which explained all the warming upto 1995 when it suddenly switched off. According to CRU there has been no statistically significant warming since 1995. Which is why Copenhagen was so important. The
cooling, which was predicted to set in back in the 90’s, would occur when Sunspot occurrences died. Leif was featured in an article in 1996 in the New Scientist although he distants himself from the way they protrayed what he said. But it did appear…..and here it is:
‘………………..What might happen is that the sun gives the planet a welcome respite from the ravages of man-made climate change – though for how long, nobody knows. During the Little Ice Age, the fall in average global temperature is estimated to have been less than 1 °C and lasted 70 years. The one before that persisted for 150 years, but a minor crash at the beginning of the 19th century lasted barely 30. For now, we will have to keep watching for falling sunspot numbers. “The deeper the crash, the longer it will last,” Weiss says.
There is a dangerous flip side to this coin. If global warming does slow down or partially reverse with a sunspot crash, industrial polluters and reluctant nations could use it as a justification for turning their backs on pollution controls altogether, makingmatters worse in the long run. There is no room for complacency, Svalgaard warns: “If the Earth does cool during the next sunspot crash and we do nothing, when the sun’s magnetic activity returns, global warming will return with a vengeance.”
From issue 2569 of New Scientist magazine, 18 September 2006, page 32-36…………’
Leif is not a AGW guy although some say he has a dog in this fight. And New Scientist took liberties with him. He’s agnostic as far as I know. The point is—-THE IDEA OF A GLOBAL COOLING SCENARIO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS.
Now do you see why Copenhagen was such a disaster for them…the AGW ‘cash re-orientation industry’. They knew this. You knew this. We knew they knew we knew they knew it. And oddly, knew they knew we knew they knew we knew this.
“However, the general consensus (if one may use that word) there was that “Global Cooling” was indeed referring to geoengineering, as “Notconvinced” also speculates.”
Come on guys, be serious. If the folks behind the carbon tax will engage in any geoengineering, it would be an attempt to warm the Earth. These people know, eventually we are heading for an ice age.
I’ll bet that made Jack Frost’s popsicle stand at attention.
A “Fulminate of Mercury”? Gee, Anthony, your really bringing out the big guns in the trash talk department now !! You must have slain them in the schoolyard with denigrating terms like that !! Only kidding!! Civility is the one of the main reasons ( I believe ) that WUWT? has been SO successful. Romm can bite my shiny metal ass!!
1st Observation of Timescales: If we are starting the transition from the current interglacial to the next glacial, and if the transition follows past rates of temp transitions then the cooling will be over several 10s of thousands of years. Based on our knowledge of past glacial cycles, the cooling rate will be much slower than the current interglacial’s heating rate has been. So, what is the urgency with the cooling due to glacial? None.
2nd Observation of Timescales: If the current cycle 24 solar activity is a mirror of the past solar activity for the Maunder Minimum or Dalton Minimum or Sporer Minimum, and if there really is a causal relation between the sun’s activity variations during the minimums to the past earth temp drops, then why would it be of great concern to the fate of mankind that we are potentially entering a cooler period? History shows there wasn’t a fundamental threat to mankind before by such events. At least now there is awareness of the potential temp drops so that any adjustments we need to privately make are there for the rational individual to act on or not by his own voluntary choice . We do not need the government to protect us from nature. We need government to protect us from the government itself. We need to solve our political problems so we can protect ourselves from the doomsday/apocalyptic advocates seeking political/economic/psychological advantage by fear.
John
…..and if you think they are going to go away because we enter an ice age…WRONG!
The following is the Sun’s electrocardiogram:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/PolarFields.gif
What do you think of this?
They want to be able to USE whatever trends can be used to persuade the public of something to fear to take full advantage for their money, power, and control. Global cooling: no problem.
Global Warming Nuremberg – that’s strong language!
However it is true that the unworkable and idealistically extreme prohibition laws in the USA in the 30’s led directly to the exponential growth of criminal mafias exploiting the situation. And evidence is accumulating that green taxes, carbon credits and windfarm incentives are doing the same (refer to reports of Sicilian mafia investment in wind farms in Italy for example).
Anthony,
I am troubled that you link to Dillingpole’s article, which has some value because of the interesting insight about the Bilderberg Group meeting, but ends with chilling call for a “Global Warming” Nuremberg..
I, for one, can not and will not support such rhetoric. I would not have expected this type of talk to be supported, if even just by a link-to, by WUWT.
Kip Hansen
REPLY: It was a “damned if I do or damned if I don’t” issue. I didn’t like that line either, but at the same time I can’t mention this development without giving credit to the first publisher. If I used it with my screencap above, with no citation, I’d get howled at for not citing the source. – Anthony
jaypan says:
September 27, 2010 at 7:03 am
“Kate says: … “DEU Scholz, Olaf Vice Chairman, SPD”
Having this guy as participant says a lot about high profile … LOL”
He’s also called the Scholzomat; while the current leaders of the German SPD are two thirds raving mad lunatics, he’s one of the guys who keeps the outfit working. So don’t underestimate that.
I’m burning as much as I can to bump up the CO2 and pray the AGWs are right. I don’t need anymore freezing winters!
Caleb said: “Your links do not lead to this story”.
The comments did: from Raredog on June 10 and from me on June 22. It looks as if Bilderberg has taken a space out of their URL since then.
Ref – Daniel H says:
September 27, 2010 at 12:28 am
“It’s a hoax site. The Bilderberg Group does not have an official web site and they don’t publish their agenda.”..
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Thanks Daniel H, I needed that.
Well, actually, I didn’t AND I did. On the one hand I thought, “I was right, the world isn’t full of Chicken Littles and rip-off artists selling worthless green foolsgold.” And then I thought, “This is insane; the world IS full of Chicken Littles and rip-off artists selling worthless green foolsgold.”
Once again Daniel H, thanks; you confirmed my basic faith in human nature, I nearly lost it for a minute.
They are truly worried over the looming spectacle of an abrupt change to a colder climate. They got it wrong.
Are these same leaders the people you would want to entrust the last vestige of strength of the Western World with?
Remember, they are the leaders of the damaged Western World. They do not hold the cards or the advantage in the Global Economy. They got rich selling the playing cards, thinking that they could control them.
They were wrong.
I’d be careful quoting that bilderberg site… I’m not sure it’s really backed by them. It could be a spoof…
I went to Bilderburg once. It’s cool the way they inject the stuffing right there in front of you. That is what we are talking about, right?
Read the rest of the article. I have the same grave concerns about letting these CAGW academics, politicians and govt scientists off the hook to morph their egregiously costly, freedom-robbing manifesto into something different (frozen windmills into “energy security” and a good thing to have to ward off the cold). They need to be grilled everyday. If newspapers won’t publish the facts, start producing new newspapers. The complicit scientific publications also need to be punished and replaced….. they are already morphing and cooling off their content.
That is a impressive list but really no Al Gore or David Suzuki go figure got to think those 2 atleast would show them the true path.
If I’m understanding James Delingpole,
He is impressed with the Biderburg Group’s suggestion that the planet is cooling and it is due to man. Also, I gather that he agrees a carbon tax is needed. I don’t get it. All the no warming believers never agreed that man could change the climate. And further more, they definately laughed at CO2 being the cause. It appears now that the no warming believers want to spook us with global cooling and that it is more dangerous than warming. What the……….go back to scaring us with the threat of being surround by sleeping cells. I’m already tired. Stop reminding me I’m slow in the head also. I suppose the global cooling believers will find a way not to pay the carbon taxes. By the way, the earth cools and warms in cycles and that is the way she breathes, if the earth rapists don’t kill her first. I’m not an evil environmentaltist either, but nice thought going through your head…aaaa.
I also noticed the “Nuremberg” equivalent of “denialist”.
Perhaps a disclaimer note next time Anthony, when any such offensive language is used, about the specific offending material – I appreciate the article, and Delingpole, otherwise.
Lucy Skywalker says: (September 27, 2010 at 5:36 pm) I also noticed the “Nuremberg” equivalent of “denialist”. Perhaps a disclaimer note next time Anthony…
Have we really become so holier than thou that we feel either qualified or compelled to gently advise Anthony on such matters?
Anthony has already said: It was a “damned if I do or damned if I don’t” issue.
Get on with the show.
On the topic of global cooling – following on from recent cattle deaths in South America from cold – this from new Zealand:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/snow-hit-farmers-call-help-3795585
Coldest spring since 1972, thousands of stock deaths mainly of lambs.
Of course nothing in the MSM – I searched the BBC for New Zealand and found only Peter Jackson’s pay dispute with actor unions about making of the film “The Hobbit”.
Good to see someone noticed.
I pointed out this very same thing right here on WUWT in the week following the BB summit.
I don’t think it even got one comment.
Anthony,
I accept your “damned if I do, damned if I don’t” explanation, but suggest that you could have put a disclaimer in your original post stating specifically that you did not support or endorse Dillingpole’s offensive call for a “a ‘Global Warming’ Nuremberg.”
You might consider this approach if a similar situation arises in the future.
Kip Hansen
To all those who believe this site is a spoof, I would like to point out that there are very real reasons why it is not:
1. It appeared on the Sunday before the conference ended showing this list which has been confirmed by cross-referring to the photos of the delegates leaving Monday am (taken by the enterprising Quierosaber – they’re all over the web). There was no list available before this so if it did happen to be a hoax it was carried out by conference insiders anyway.
2. The existence of an official Bilderberg website has been confirmed by 2010 participant Olaf Scholz who referred people to it subsequently when answering questions on a German political website.