From the “weather is not climate” department, more chilling news from the southern hemisphere.
Guest post By Alexandre Aguiar
MetSul Weather Center via ICECAP
A brutal and historical cold snap has so far caused 80 deaths in South America, according to international news agencies. Temperatures have been much below normal for over a week in vast areas of the continent. In Chile, the Aysen region was affected early last week by the worst snowstorm in 30 years. The snow accumulation reached 5 feet in Balmaceda and the Army was called to rescue people trapped by the snow.
In Argentina, the snow in the region of Mendoza, famous for its winery, was described by local
meteorologists as the heaviest in a decade. The temperature in the morning of July 16th was the lowest in the city of Buenos Aires since 1991: -1.5C. The cold snap caused a record demand for energy and Argentina had to import electricity from Brazil. Many industries in Argentina were shut down due to gas shortage.
It snowed in nearly all the provinces of Argentina, an extremely rare event. It snowed even in the western part of the province of Buenos Aires and Southern Santa Fe, in cities at sea level.
The most famous beach of Argentina, Mar del Plata, was whitened by the snow in the morning of July 15th, a scene only seen in recent memory in 1991, 2004 and 2007. See below:
The snow was heavy even in Northern Argentina. In Santiago Del Estero, according to media reports, some areas experienced snow for the first time in living memory. In the province of Tucuman, some town saw snow for the first time since 1921 (Gaceta de Tucuman newspaper).
In Uruguay, there were widespread reports of sleet and even snow mixed with rain in towns in the Southern and Eastern part of the country, even in the capital Montevideo. At leas two deaths have been blamed in Uruguay on the low temperatures. Hospitals were packed with patients with respiratory illness.
In Paraguay, at least nine people died due to the cold weather in only 3 days. Cattle were very affected and one thousand animals died of hypothermia. In Bolivia, dozes of people died in consequence of the very low temperatures. In some areas of the nation the cold period was described as the worst in 15 years. It even snowed in the Chaco of Bolivia, one of warmest areas of South America, where the local population never saw snow before. Classes were suspended in Bolivia for three days to prevent more cold related deaths (El Nacional newspaper from Bolivia).
Southern Brazil was also very affected by the cold air eruption from the Southern Pole. Last week the temperature dropped to -7.8C in the city of Urupema, Santa Catarina. In Rio Grande do Sul, in the hills of the state, temperature felt to -4.9C in the city of Cambara. In the state of Paran�, the low was -6C. Only the nights were freezing, but the afternoons were very cold. In some days, temperature failed to reach 5C in many towns, the first time in a decade. Flurries observed in towns of Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina and Parana and sleet was also reported in Western Santa Catarina.
The most striking scenes came from the top of Morro da Igreja, a 1800 meters elevation in the state of Santa Catarina. The area recorded snow and freezing rain. As anyone can imagine, freezing rain is extremely rare in Southern Brazil. The event was witnessed and photographed by weather observers from MetSul Marcelo Albieri and Caio Souza.
On July 14th, in the afternoon hours, temperatures in the hills of Rio Grande do Sul state in Southern Brazil were lower than in Marambio, the main polar base of Argentina in Antarctica. In Central Brazil, in the tropics, the long streak of cold days was considered extremely rare. It was so cold that thousand of animals died in this region of Brazil known for its cattle, just South of the Amazon basin.
Maybe the most notable fact took place in North South America. The cold reached Amazon and temperatures felt to as low as 7C in towns in the Amazon Forest in the states of Acre and Rondonia. Temperature even felt in Roraima, where the state capital Boa Vista record 20C (normal lows are 25C) and the wind were blowing from the South.
Boa Vista is located at 2 degrees North of latitude, so the influence of the Antarctic cold blast crossed the Equator line and reached towns in the Northern Hemisphere. It would be the same of a cold snap from the Arctic crossing the entire North America continent, the Caribbean and reaching North Brazil in cities at 2 degrees South of latitude as Santarem, a bizarre situation.
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Now you just know the “warmers” will say this is more proof of global warming because global warming causes everything and no matter what, it’s always either “robust” or “unprecedented!”
I fear a cooling planet far, far more that I fear a warming planet.
It’s hard to grow crops when the ground is covered with snow and ice.
If this is the “warmest year evah” I would hate to see what a “cold year ” is like.
Cold is warm, warm is cold, cold is just a part of the warm, the warm is all. Even if it is cold, we are the warm. even if we have our long underwear on, warm is, still….
Actually repeating what a Co-worker told me slightly paraphrased.
Got Wood? Coal? Gas?
this could be the winter that did the deed to AGW..
Of course this supports AGW. More extreme events, yada, yada and so forth.
“Mortes de bovinas devem passar 2 mil”
This is truly devastating.
Weather is inseparable from climate. Weather has nothing to do with climate projections, however.
Let me get this straight.
The Southern Hemisphere Winter crossed the equator, and caused cooling in the Northern Hemisphere?
Has this ever happened before, crossing either North or South?
Ah, yes, we have reached the tipping point.
A trend for things to come, in a thousand year or two it will become apparent that we are falling back to an ice age. The 3 or 4 coming solar cycles will be weak ones. Thats a lot of years in which our oceans will lose heat.
So I’ve been keeping an eye on the Antarctic Oscillation (AAO), after Julienne pointed out that the increase in Antarctic Sea Ice Extent over the last several months;
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_stddev_timeseries.png
may be related to the recent strong positive Antarctic Oscillation:
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/hgt.aao.cdas.gif
Note that June had the 2nd highest positive anomaly in the historical record, second only to July 1979:
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/aao/monthly.aao.index.b79.current.ascii.table
Here is a good animation of the Southern Polar Vortex and AAO over the last month (Note that red is high pressure and blue is low pressure):
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/z500_sh_anim.shtml
I’ve also been watching how this is related to the rest of the globe (Note the pocket of low pressure Antarctic air that found its way over South America in the last 10 days. Also note that the Arctic was dominated by a high pressure area, until early July when a low pressure area seems to have taken over);
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/z200anim.shtml
Here is a good animation of the Northern Polar Vortex and Arctic Oscillation (AO) over the last month:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/z500_nh_anim.shtml
Here is some background on the Antarctic Oscillation and Antarctic Oscillation Index;
http://climate.eas.gatech.edu/dai/daigroup/staff/gongdaoyi/doc/Definition%20of%20Antarctic%20oscillation%20index.pdf
And here is a site that offer’s a wide array of data on Atmospheric and Ocean Indices:
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/climateindices/list/
Do we have a reader who has some atmospheric expertise and can comment/provide further reference material?
Wow.
Great pictures. Freezing rain in Brazil. 5 feet of snow in Chile.
The part about the airmass of Antarctic origin advecting all the way across the Equator (modified, but still….same airmass)…is simply astounding.
I am sure this is all caused by CO2.
We have to curb emissions now…or the world is going heat up and freeze.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Pretty cold in Australia too:
Coldest July temperature ever recorded in Australia:
http://www.weatherchannel.com.au/main-menu/News/Breaking-News/Record-cold-but-still-no-snow.aspx
-20c at Charlotte’s Pass.
Of course, no coverage on main news websites…
“A brutal and historical cold snap has so far caused 80 deaths in South America…”
Not likely. Only increased “average” global temperatures lead to deaths.
This winter, in Kansas(I say Kansas, because in a large part, one can track the U.S.’s weather patterns by watching the weather in that area) and a great many parts of the northern hemisphere had a protracted winter. All the while we are told the GW is occurring because the lows are higher and while we may be experiencing cold, that’s just weather. Now, it seems the southern hemisphere is experiencing the same “weather”. But the lows are higher……….when? This winter certainly wasn’t confined to the western hemisphere, I can recall the Brits(and many other parts of Europe) having great difficulties this winter. Perhaps it is just places that we don’t hear about. For instance, we don’t hear about the
climateweather in Africa very much, nor do we in many parts of Asia. Looking at some climate tracking sites, we see there is considerable warming in the Arctic and the Antarctic. So, perhaps these are the places where the warming is occurring that allows us to declare, THIS IS THE HOTTEST YEAR EVUH!!!! Does it seem strange to anyone else, that these are also the places where very few reliable temp tracking stations exist?How many thermometers are in the Arctic circle? How many(at properly spaced locations) are in the Antarctic? Central Asia? Africa? Is this where the warming is occurring? Currently, here in Kansas, it is hot. Of course, it’s July. It is supposed to be hot. It isn’t the hottest year evuh here, not by a long shot. And if it isn’t the hottest year evuh here, it is also not the hottest year evuh in much of the U.S. and Canada. If it is the hottest year ever, where, pray tell, is it hottest ever? Surely, somewhere, other than an airport, we broke some weather record that accumulated to climate. Where?
Please, no one even try to say this is because of co2 making the earth warm.
This is an eye-opening description of the magnitude of the cold weather:
“Maybe the most notable fact took place in North South America. The cold reached Amazon and temperatures felt to as low as 7C in towns in the Amazon Forest in the states of Acre and Rondonia. Temperature even felt in Roraima, where the state capital Boa Vista record 20C (normal lows are 25C) and the wind were blowing from the South. Boa Vista is located at 2 degrees North of latitude, so the influence of the Antarctic cold blast crossed the Equator line and reached towns in the Northern Hemisphere. It would be the same of a cold snap from the Arctic crossing the entire North America continent, the Caribbean and reaching North Brazil in cities at 2 degrees South of latitude as Santarem, a bizarre situation.”
“Global warming” is the least of our worries.
Australia is still hitting the lows BTW
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/7874500/Alice-Springs-coldest-day-on-record.html
Just decided to get some of our curtains thermal lined – as there is a real ‘bite’ in the recent cold around Sydney.. Just came back from Katoomba up in the Blue Mountains and the usual practice there is to have a wood fire burning all day to keep the chill out.. Time to chop some more wood..
Don Easterbrook said warming ended in 1999 and cooling is coming. Here it is!
Chilly in Chile ? Beastly in Brazil ? Awful in Argentina ? Say it isn’t so, Joe…….. James ? Phil ? Michael ? Albert ?
Its quite common for these cold snaps to occur here. I remember 1974 when the entire coffee crop was destroyed. Antarctica is a huge beast and occasionaly a large whirlpool of cold air will reach latitudes ~20.No doubt the increased size of Antarctica could have helped it along…
With NOAA planning our cattle will sadly freeze as well. Of course if farmers listen to NOAA we will starve. Our government believes in NOAA so we are doomed to sit in the dark and freeze unless we beg for some energy from our newly anointed kings and gods. Maybe they will allocate us a bird killing windmill, of course we will not be able to sleep due to the noise, so we will leave the lights on. Then again they will route all the power to themselves. Hottest weather in D.C. doubtful there or any where else just Hansen manning the thermometers.
Australia’s BOM today declares we are in La Nina conditions. All the signs are pointing to below average global temperatures in the coming months.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
Anthony,
Will you be doing a post on the cold in Australia too?
I think it is about time we define the number of years of weather to make it climate. This “weather is not climate” thing must have a limit or else they will use it forever, even if forever is 1000 years!
Hmmm…let’s see…if I apply the GISS reference station interpolation method to the global temperature anomalies, I can put a GIANT RED DOT over southern Chile and Argentina on my anomaly map, because our algorithms say they are really burning up down there but they don’t really know it! And besides, it’s the hottest year, and no one interferes with NASA/NOAAs hottest year!!
j.pickens says:
July 20, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Someone mentioned how long it has been since a Polar Air Mass crossed the equator. In another thread.
It was bound to happen, I believe, as the Antarctic Sea Ice grew to record levels.
Now, for anyone who needs a reminder: The hopscotch of winters from one hemisphere to the next over the past couple of years. Is this a portent of our coming Northern Winter?
Ray says:
July 20, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Weather is not climate…. a half truth about as dismissive as they come.
Weather is not only part of climate, it’s an instance of climate. Climate has a range in which each instance of weather occurs/operates.
“It’s just weather” is equally dismissive and disingenious.
Mankind has talked of weather for 10’s of thousands of years. There are those who wish to silence the common man’s ability to talk about the weather. How’s the weather? is as basic a human communication as one can find, transcending language, cultures, religion, race, social status….you name it.
Meanwhile, hundreds died in a Russian heat wave this last few days and people reading this blog wouldn’t even know about it. What’s up with that?
REPLY: But it has tons of coverage in the media, so plenty of people know about it. Let’s do the math:
Google Russia heat wave and you get 698 results.
Google Argentina cold snap and you get 34 results.
And you are complaining that I covered (from a person on the scene, meteorologist no less) the cold snap but nobody here knows about the heat wave? Puhleeze.
I get this sort of whining every time I run a cold weather story. Old news. – Anthony
I stopped trusting “global” temperature a long time ago when I found out Mr. Hansen was in charge of “statistical” modeling of temperature data. The second you put someone who is biased in control of something scientific, you have at the least observer bias, and at the worst fraud.
And for one, I am still un-sure of how interpolation of temperature data helps us understand our current temperature at all. I would assume the most pressing needs for humanity are based where we actually work, live and harvest crops, not in the arctic which has no bearing on our lives.
Now do not mis-construe what I am saying, I am not saying Greenland does not matter, because frankly people do live there. And we already measure the temperature there….As I was saying, the point is that we should be more concerned about the “climate” at important locations where we already measure the temperature…
And if sea levels will rise, we can figure that out by the steady increase of the sea, and prepare ourselves, changing climates will happen regardless of CO2…. the question is will we be prepared or will we be running around yelling like a bunch of chicken littles….
“It was so cold that thousand of animals died in this region of Brazil known for its cattle, just South of the Amazon basin.”
Somebody should take Jones et. al. and rub their nose in this, to show them what a REAL death spiral looks like!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2009_Central_Plains_and_Midwest_ice_storm
65 initial fatalities, many more were later injured or even killed during the repairs and cleanup afterward.
http://www.realclearwx.com/020109.htm
There was basically no mention of it anywhere!
The articles are wrong to say IF the cold could reach the Caribbean. I was in Cuba during January and they had their lowest ever temperature measured in Havana of 3.2C and had their first ever frost outside the city. All the Hotels had turned off the A/C and the guests every night we were eating with our coats still on to stay warm. On returning home a group of freinds who went to Mexico said the temperatures did not get out of the teens in the Yukatan peninsula.
@Amino Acids in Meteorites
Don has a tendency to be wrong on most everything he does research-wise.
He does have a nice textbook though.
[snip – mocking people’s deaths, shame on you]
Zeke the Sneak says: July 20, 2010 at 7:31 pm
“Mortes de bovinas devem passar 2 mil”
This is truly devastating.
Not to diminish the significance of two thousand head of cattle dying, but if you don’t know Latin-based languages, you might be left with a feeling that the quote and caption from above was really saying that 2 million cattle died…
Having said that, I personally was shocked to see the dead cattle shown in the pictures. Was the ranch where those cattle died grossly incompetent or horribly unfortunate?
The issues with Mongolian livestock this past winter should be warning enough that too much cold can be just as punishing as too much heat and that we all need to find ways to safeguard our food and industries. Now. And, chasing more inefficient energy-use plans (i.e. carbon emission reductions) is just a waste of our precious time and resources.
I hope our policy makers are reading and paying attention to the events taking place all around the world, not just those in their own back yard…
message understood.
Alex Baker says:
July 20, 2010 at 10:39 pm
The issues with Mongolian livestock this past winter should be warning enough
It should be warning enough. Thanks for the reminder of Mongonlia. More winter hopscotch ‘top this’ that the MSM is ignoring, at our peril. The records being set do not point to warmest ever. They point the other way.
Our current crop of political leaders have too many heads planted firmly in the sands of the Anthropogenic Climate Change Desert.
Benjamin P. says:
July 20, 2010 at 10:26 pm
@Amino Acids in Meteorites
Don has a tendency to be wrong on most everything he does research-wise.
You’re going to have to provide proof of that otherwise you are libeling him.
I haven’t seen him be wrong.
Now provide proof for what you said.
Benjamin P. says:
July 20, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Don
You call him ‘Don’. You know him?
Geoff Sharp says:
July 20, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Australia’s BOM today declares we are in La Nina conditions.
The cool waters have been there pretty persistently:
http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/GLBhycom1-12/navo/equpacsst_nowcast_anim30d.gif
Is there a new moderator? It seems like there are more messages being erased.
[no, just a large influx of trolls lately with comments that violate policy ~mod]
See those dead animals? What killed them? Weather or climate?
What, if anything, are the various “agencies” doing about improving and expanding the coverage of temperature networks (actual thermometers etc.) to ensure accuracy and precision in the raw data?
Which is more unprecedented? Russia recorded it’s highest temperature ever in some areas, correct? Were the equilavent low temperature records set in the southern hemisphere during this cold snap?
Jim D says:
July 20, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Meanwhile, hundreds died in a Russian heat wave this last few days and people reading this blog wouldn’t even know about it. What’s up with that?
People dying in heat waves happens every year. That is not the unusual thing to make a point of. It is not something that just started happening since Al Gore made his movie or James Hansen testified in Washington in 1988. Was it heat covering an entire Hemisphere and passing the equator into another? Was it record heat as is supposed to be happening in global warming? Or is it just one more heat wave that happens every summer?
Obviously global warming isn’t happening with the Southern Hemisphere being this cold. Winters have been harsh for four years in a row now there. And for three in a row in the Northern, with a fourth on the way. This cold was not part of the plan in global warming.
Global warming is not happening.
But people making hysterical assumptions from any and every opportunity in weather is happening. And the readers of this blog, for the most part, would know about that.
I sent you a set of facts as to the number of people living in South America: 365 million and about their death rate 1 in 100, which amounts to 3.65 Million deaths per year.
And you accuse me of “mocking people’s deaths”.
What I mocked was the idea that you or anyone else could attribute 80 of the 3.65 Million to the cold weather.
[numbers aren’t a problem, it was the way you phrased it. mock on, but unless you have something that shows the cold was not a factor as the person in SA who wrote this report shows, you’ll have to accept some mockery yourself ~mod]
There is nothing surprising in the middle-of-July heat in Russia. I remember summers in Western Siberia in 1960s that were smothering hot (add clouds of mosquitoes to the picture).
Relatively large amount of deaths in Russian summer is mostly due to immoderate vodka consumption under the Sun, and lack of air conditioning in most places outside the downtown offices in largest cities.
Add somewhat improved media reporting (in Soviet times they wouldn’t tell you, how many died), and there you have it: the whole Universe is warming.
Meanwhile, hundreds died in a Russian heat wave this last few days
The news I had reported was that most of the deaths were blamed on people drinking too much in their enjoyment of the good weather and going swimming while drunk. That is, they weren’t dying of actual heat.
The line is right – they died IN a heatwave, not because of it.
One of the peculiar things about average is that they make a mockery of extremes. And, they are never explanatory. My daughter is returning from Moscow this week and the heat there really is unprecedented, but then the cold this winter was very nearly so. The Muscovites actually had more snow than they were used to and it lasted longer. People die in Moscow every year from cold. During the summer around 2,000 drown, mostly males and over 90% are drunk at the time of death. But – Russians do not expect to die of heat, cold yes, alcohol yes, smoking yes, mafia yes, but heat? Russian buildings don’t even have air conditioning. Like, Brazilian cattle farmers are likely to expect heat to be a problem for their herds, possibly drought, but cold? In fact when they settle down and average the numbers out for this year, the “extremes” of heat and cold will vanish. They are statistical outliers until they happen often enough to become part of what we expect from weather where we live; that is, part of the climate.
North America has record highs, South America has record lows! There is only one true answer to this! The Earth is tipping over! AH!
O/T
http://www.iaes.info/pdf/ENVI_REL_EN_%20HEARING_DOC2.pdf
This EU proposal is very scary given that they believe AGW to be very real.
Why don’t you show your readers the way I “phrased it”? You ought to withdraw that remark that I was “mocking people’s deaths” or show them what I wrote and let them decide for themselves if they agree with you.
[because it’s deleted. if you are unhappy with the policy of snipping off color comments, don’t comment. others get the same treatment. read the policy page ~mod]
Alex Baker says:
July 20, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I believe some cattle ranches in South America are similar to the Aussie Cattle Stations in that they can be thousands upon thousands of hectares in size.
Cattle are usually turned out for months on end to fend for themselves until they are rounded up, usually by helicopter.
So the answer to your question “were they grossly incompetent or unfortunate”, I suspect might be “unfortunate”.
I’m in no PC mood after an article like that, breaks my heart and it goes out to all suffering down south… cold is the real killer.
I’m just waiting for some of these AGW saints to come forward and say how bad they feel for these people dying from the cold, the 1000’s of cattle, the some 2,700,000 cattle in Mongolia last year, the hundreds who died from the cold in the N.H. last winter, all of the hardship caused by soaring food prices it caused, that they realize the magnitude or even magnitudes greater the death caused by cold compared to mearly being hot in the summer. Come on AGWers, you saintly environmentalists, show us your true hearts and how you suggest legislation to ease these future strikes of cold.
If the sun doesn’t perk up in 2011, which is what my rough calendar says when cycle 24 should actually begin, and it still might be a small one, we are going to be thankful for every p.p.m. of CO2 we have in this atmosphere (even though I now don’t think it physically make one iota change in the temperature due to H2O’s override, but, larger plant growth will be a good thing at least).
john,
The 80 deaths in the report are from hypothermia. Sadly cold exacerbates many medical conditions so there’ll tens of thousands more deaths.
For example here’s excess winter deaths in England and Wales (40 million population): http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=574
Many more people die in winter than in summer every year, 2008/09 (the winter before last) was a little bit cold for a few weeks and more than 10,000 extra deaths occurred. The unusually mild winters in the UK this decade easily saved 100,000 lives.
Being an incorrigible sceptic, I’ve checked several meteorological stations in the region (Chile, Argentina, Paraguay), and all of them show average or slightly below average (-1°F) temperatures for July so far. So it’s correct to speak of a cold ‘snap’.
On the other hand, temperatures in central and eastern Europe have been running well above average (up to +10°F in Russia), and it looks like several records might be broken.
I was pondering this the other day. Came to the conclusion that climate is NOT the average of weather over a time period, it’s the integral over both time and space (weather is a local thing, climate large regions. Weather is a moment in time, climate a long duration.). The whole notion that temperature (a single factor in weather) says anything about the integral of weather over both time and space is very broken; from a philosophy of mathematics point of view.
For folks mathematically inclined, more details here:
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/derivative-of-integral-chaos-is-agw/
The basic point is that temperatures are point data at a point in time, a single factor of weather (that includes, for example, the water cycle). And we take temps, then average them as a weather PROXY and then further do averaging over both time and space as a proxy integration of weather to get a pseudo-climate proxy, then do a bad job of taking the derivative with respect to time (via the offset between averages in two different time periods) to get dC/dt (change of climate over time).
And that is just broken mathematics. (Why integrate over time in one way, then take the derivative in another, accumulating loads of errors? Why not just integrate over space instead? As one example brokenness… )
But yes, the question really comes down to “what length of time and distance of space is sufficient to the integral of weather such that it represents climate?”.
But my conclusion is that doing the integral (badly) of weather to get climate, then doing the derivative of that (equally badly) to get dC/dt is really just showing that weather changes.
At the end of the day, the ‘climate codes’ like GIStemp are just showing that weather changes, and doing it by a very poor method.
That’s what the mathematics says to me.
(Note: Not the arithmetic, they have other issues there. This is the fundamental relationship between the objects they manipulate and what they mean. Mathematical philosophy.)
in sydney the Russian heat wave is in the news but no news on the cold snap in Argentina { don,t you think its a bit strange }
Sorry Antony but everything may point to a cold snap in South America and the pictures may look good with all that snow but i’ve put the tempreture records for South America through my AGW filter and its retuning the hottest winter on record for South America and you can’t argue with me as my AGW filter is endorsed by 95%* of scientists with a genral consensus of ‘He’s right, Antony’s wrong’.
*Statistic’s made up to improve my grant.
James Sexton –
I did read an article recently about weather in South Africa – people attending the world cup were complaining about the unusual cold. Not something they were expecting when it’s the “hottest year ever”.
@FergalR says: July 21, 2010 at 12:11 am
You are absolutely right. And when the “excess deaths” statistics for South America are analysed, it will make the reported “80” look like a drop in the ocean. In part, these computerised analyses are very problematic and I’m sure that, were you to add up all the similar projections for deaths in the UK due to pollution from cars / passive smoking / obesity / excess alcohol consumption / food poisoning and fifty more things the do-gooders want to tighten control on, it would suggest that the UK’s population should now be a negative number.
But before “John” and other warmist trolls run away, they should check out:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wave
This “30,000” deaths caused by a heat wave in Europe in 2003 is regularly quoted as “proof” of Anthropogenic Global Warming and as justification for “urgent action” to change the energy base of our economy.
So warm snap in Europe = climate (and mankind’s fault)
Cold snap in South America (or the coldest winter for at least a generation in the UK) = weather (and we don’t even need to consider this. It will be “rotten” cold, no doubt)
And when I look at my burgeoning energy bills, I’m not supposed to get cross?
“Meanwhile, hundreds died in a Russian heat wave this last few days and people reading this blog wouldn’t even know about it. What’s up with that?”
The cause of death in a majority of those incidents was actually put down to drowning caused by intoxication as Russians downed LOTS of vodka and then went swimming,
…..or rather… didn’t.
http://www.arirang.co.kr/News/News_View.asp?nseq=105117&code=Ne2&category=2
(Source for the Russians drowning due to being drunk story)
“Which is more unprecedented? Russia recorded it’s highest temperature ever in some areas, correct?”
No. Just the highest in a long time. Highest ever suggests higher than a few thousand years ago when temps were an average of 5 degrees higher than now. Or millions of years ago with temps 10 degrees higher.
Highest on record of a few hundred years, possibly.
Although I have not looked at the current Southern hemispheric cold records, I do remember the last Northern hemispheric winter where the coldest temperatures on record were recorded in places across the USA, Europe, Russia and Asia. And where we are now occasionally seeing the hot records broken by a degree or two in some places, the cold records were broken by as many as 10 degrees.
Have lived here in Brisbane Australia for thirty years and EVERY winter has has the westerlies blow in from around the end of June to almost the end of August. These winds bring cool days and cloudless blue skies. This is the first year for us that we are still waiting. It is cold and dreary every day, and hardly any sunshine. Oh where are the snows of yesteryear?
From the “just weather and not climate department” we see that it’s not just South America feeling the chill – see Africa and Australia.
I wish to cast people’s memory back to this past winter when we saw snow in the snow in the mediterranean, Tanomah in south western Saudi Arabia and the ‘warm’ snow of Florida including another 50 US states.
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With the summer heatwave we have been getting endless alarm over global warming. These warmists just can’t see the signs of cooling. Don’t be alarmed either way as warming and cooling fears are nothing new. The next year will be exciting either way.
Over sixty years ago, I learned that weather has always sprung nasty surprises on the unwary, the unprepared or the stupid. Farmers and those whose economic survival depend on such information in New Zealand know that heavy lamb losses due to sudden extremes of weather more typical of midwinter can occur during during the middle of summer. They also know that climate tends to be cyclical in nature but the cycles are so complex and interrelated that Man can only understand the most obvious of such cycles. This knowledge translates into lunar calendars unique to local microclimates for the growing of traditional crops such as the various cultivars of Kumera, the Polynesian sweet potato common to the islands and coastal regions of the Pacific.
Any person who has ever worked on the land in ‘temperate’ climes understands that cold is both an immediate and long-term killer, while warmth is both benign and beneficial.
This comment from the Australian BOM regarding the sub surface temperatures is telling.
“The map for the 5 days ending 19 July shows a large volume of cooler than normal water evident below the surface of the equatorial Pacific Ocean. The sub-surface of the ocean is more than 4°C cooler than normal for this time of year in the central Pacific. When compared with two weeks ago, the central Pacific has cooled.”
Correction:
“including the other 49 US states.”
I said 50, my bad. 🙁
Last night it was snowing on Mar de la Plata
That should make Al Gore a persona non grata
But Reid he will still
Put forth “cap and trade” bill
The premise of which is much falsified data.
Just The Facts says: “Antarctic Oscillation (AAO) […] Note that June had the 2nd highest positive anomaly in the historical record, second only to July 1979: http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/aao/monthly.aao.index.b79.current.ascii.table “
See May 1989.
Juan says:
July 20, 2010 at 11:06 pm
“Which is more unprecedented? Russia recorded it’s highest temperature ever in some areas, correct? ”
The Russian high temp is the highest recorded in 130 years. So its NOT unprecedented.
“The cold reached Amazon and temperatures felt to as low as 7C in towns in the Amazon Forest in the states of Acre and Rondonia.”
What was that about Amazon’s sensitivity to rising temperatures? The danger is from cold my friends not tropical rainforest type warm. :o)
Stephan says:
July 20, 2010 at 8:12 pm
“Its quite common for these cold snaps to occur here. I remember 1974 when the entire coffee crop was destroyed.[…]”
In 1976, there was also a catstrophic winter in Germany. And the PDO was in its cool phase. That’s where we’re headed.
And i wonder… The ones who still carry the fear of global warming inside them, they will have larger and larger problems justifying their belief. They cling on to the AMSU AQUA5 channel
( http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/ )
or to GISTEMP or whatever data set that still gives them confirmation. Meanwhile, the Bilderberg group discusses global cooling.
http://bilderbergmeetings.org/index.php
(not much to see there).
Here’s a plank for you: CO2 does indeed absorb some LWIR. But the effect drowns in the absorptive spectrum of H2O. That’s why the expected warming doesn’t take place. It’s not a shame to have been wrong.
May I also remind people about Fire & Ice [pdf graphical version]
110 years of global warming (and cooling) fears!!! WUWT???
I got more similar stuff if any Warmists want it. Calm down, the world is not about to roast!!!
Recent Southern Hemisphere temperature animations;
http://www.pa.op.dlr.de/arctic/index.html
the ozone one is interesting too, re. S. America.
It’s worse than we thought, on the freezing side but. It is even worse than this report described it: 50 children have died of the cold in Peru these last days, and this has been occuring since the winter of two years ago.
Please Al Gore, can you ask the UN to issue a Fatwa on this freeze and tell the world to stop burning HC fuels and reduce our carbon foorprints? You see, Mr. Gore, I have developed this graph, it is peer reviewed by my dog and the drunk next door, which shows this perfect correlation between increasing CO2 levels and dipping temperatures. And can I have a million dollars grant for more reasearch and a Nobel prize nomination please? I have just saved the planet from global freezing.
I agree. It’s just like the Arctic this past winter helped Florida to have ready frozen oranges, dead iguanas, corals and manatees.
Millions of live cattle died in Mongolia in the winter. Makes a shortage of meat for Mongolian BBQ. I notice the warmist sites delete a post if it refers to cold events.
Global warming is heating up the North Pole since there is much less ice to keep it cool nowadays. The hot air is rising and sucking up all of the cold air from the South Pole to replace it. That in turn is pulling down air from the stratosphere over Antarctica. As this air sinks, it will heat up and melt the glaciers there. Gian icebergs will cause sea levels to rise and all the penguins will die. Then the polar bears will have nothing to eat and will starve to death. I know this is true because they said so on TV.
1,200 drownings in Russia in June. That is scalding waters? No the temps may be near records and still under 100 degrees.
100s in Russia because of a heatwave???? How about the 25,000 exess weather deaths in tiny UK??????????? How many people die in Russia each year due to cold? Get a grip on reality. Cold always kills more people than hot!!!
UK cold weather deaths
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=574
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/08/shocker-heat-wave-story-from-associated-press-no-mention-of-global-warming/
Stephan says:
July 20, 2010 at 8:12 pm
“Its quite common for these cold snaps to occur here. I remember 1974 …
Doesn’t sound very common to me…
One little comment. When life expectancy was 35 years, we had few die from heat and some die from dehydration. With
expectancy bringing us millions over 80 years old, their tolerance for heat is very low.
Their cardio strength is just not there.
Warmists ignore multible variables and factors that may skew the data.
Clarification:
How about the 25,000 exess cold weather deaths in tiny UK???????????
Just The Facts says:
July 20, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Re: Do we have a reader who has some atmospheric expertise and can comment/provide further reference material?
Sorry cannot help, but your post certainly helped me. Thanks
Henry chance says:
July 21, 2010 at 5:02 am
1,200 drownings in Russia in June. That is scalding waters? No the temps may be near records and still under 100 degrees.
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First they drowned their sorrows in Vodka, then drowned themselves in the rivers.
Bet the green warriors will jump at the idea of reducing the global human population to one billion (their ideal number) through vodka consumption. They wil lbe asking our govs to subsidise the production of vodka to save the planet.
Re: Just The Facts
& further to May 1989
I belong to a discussion group where this stuff has been thrown around:
Ball, T. (2009). Outbreaks of cold polar air. [Mobile Polar Highs (MPH)]. http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FoS_MobilePolarHighs.pdf
Leroux, Marcel. Mobile Polar Highs (MPH) & Anticyclonic Agglutinations (AA) Map. http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2008/8/14/64552/3547
related notes: http://www.mitosyfraudes.org/Calen6/Leroux-2.html
I haven’t had time to give the preceding much thought, but at first glance it all appears consistent with the following:
http://www.sfu.ca/~plv/SAOT_SO_SEP_MSI_IVI2.png
http://earthquakes.usgs.gov/research/data/plate15.pdf
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Ocean_currents_1943_%28borderless%293.png
Also, Bob Tisdale draws attention to the following:
http://oceanmotion.org/html/resources/oscar.htm
http://www.oscar.noaa.gov/datadisplay/
Certainly we can’t ignore turbulence & backeddies when constructing spatiotemporal summaries [without risk of introducing (false) phase-relation reversals].
A very big story indeed, a giant media organisation with offices around the world would want to send their reporters to the area to find out the stories, wouldnt they? Er….uhm…nope!
It aint a story unless its a heatwave, it just confuses the thick herd minded proles you see, cant have the great unwashed getting mixed signals especially now when the media are doing their copy’N’paste extravaganza from GP/FOE/WWF about record heat.
How desperate,mean minded and flawed do you have to be to hide information from the public in order to pimp a narrative? Im thinking petty but that just aint gonna cover it.
Perhaps the BBC are crushing the story for ‘legal reasons’ as they did with the climategate leaks.
This could make interesting cocktail party conversation, except I don’t enjoy being shouted at.
Just to put the weather thing in perspective for people talking about record heat waves:
The record high in my part of OH today was 105F, set in 1934. Our high today will be 20F less than that. What does that mean if record heat is an indicator of GW? Also, what does last year’s 2nd coldest month of July on record mean? I am sure there will be well reasoned answers to these questions, so I will check back later.
If memory serves, there are record cold winters taking place right now in:
Australia/New Zeland (cold enough to kill native plants and livestock)
South Africa (unknown)
South America (cold enough to kill native plants and livestock)
Antarctica (no one noticed)
So this isn’t some localized “cold air mass,” it’s the entire friggin’ southern hemisphere.
further:
That animation http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/z200anim.shtml (pointed out by ‘Just The Facts’) appears to be a classic example of this http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2008/8/14/64552/3547 generalization – [see the AA map]. Note the ‘football’ being kicked around the Southern Ocean eastwards. (Also note that the [southeast] Pacific ‘handles’ its pass quickly.)
Anyone studying current ocean currents in the SE Pacific may note the southerly anomaly [relative to the usual generalizations one finds on long-term summary-maps of ocean currents (some of which show the opposite rotation for that cell — see the links I provided above from Bob Tisdale’s site)].
The Russian literature emphasizes the role of the terrestrial hydrologic cycle.
“So this isn’t some localized “cold air mass,” it’s the entire friggin’ southern hemisphere.”
Pretty much like the freezing ice and snow of 2009/2010 NH winter wasn’t localised. But then, we’re told it’s just weather not climate…
After penguins dying from the cold in South Africa a few weeks ago, now it is their South American cousins? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10707906
UK Sceptic says: “Pretty much like the freezing ice and snow of 2009/2010 NH winter wasn’t localised. […]”
I’ll remind those from east of the west coast mountains of North America (for umpteenth time) that it was d*mned HOT on the other side of the mountains (NE Pacific or NW N.America, depending on how you want to look at it) during that period.
It was a spatial oscillation [& one with a very steep gradient].
I readily acknowledge the cold experienced elsewhere at that time, but for the sake of those interested in pursuing truth, the pattern empirically observed takes precedence over what may be perceived by some as ‘politically convenient’.
The Warmist Stream Media always points out the casualties from the deadly heat events, but never gives mention to the far more serious threats from the deadly cold events. People in S. America were not warned about the events in Mongolia and Florida.
And, in turn, the people in Mongolia and Florida were not warned about the previous winter in Alaska & the Yukon, where many clung to life by burning thier furniture and outbuildings.
Likewise, I am sure the WSM will not pass the message of the current events in S. America on to the N. Hemisphere.
In military stragetgy, this is known as a feint. All that is necessary is to hold the attention in the wrong place for the real threat to take maximum effect.
Paul Vaughn:
That European Tribune story is interesting considered with the ‘unprecedented’ collapse of the thermosphere. That happened during the down slope of the solar cycle. I wonder if perhaps the sun’s effect on the density of the thermosphere can cause an increase in pressure in the troposphere, which traps heat at the surface? I wouldn’t know how to find the pressure information shown in the link you provided, but it is an interesting thought. There is a downward trend in the thermosphere density since the 70s.
http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2010/07/15/graphs.jpg
“So this isn’t some localized “cold air mass,” it’s the entire friggin’ southern hemisphere.”
Like last winter in the North saw record cold that was across almost the entire northern hemisphere? Except for the little bit on the East coast of Canada when the winter Olympics was starting, hence massive headlines about global warming in the media at the time.
Look at this SUN’S “ELECTROCARDIOGRAM” :
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/PF.gif
Dying or resting?
Jim D says:
July 20, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Do you know that your adored prophet is a member of the board of directors of Google?
Paul Vaughan says: July 21, 2010 at 3:13 am
“See May 1989.”
Yes, I stand corrected, June had the 3rd highest positive anomaly in the historical record, following May 1989 and July 1979. Also, interesting is that the 4th highest positive anomaly was June 1989, and three of the top 15 highest positive anomalies occurred in 1999, Dec, Oct and May. Could be happenstance, or a 10 year cycle.
Paul Vaughan says: July 21, 2010 at 6:09 am
“I belong to a discussion group where this stuff has been thrown around”
Really good stuff in there, it will take a weekend for me to dig through and absorb. Thank you.
OT but very important: Pachauri’s TATA accused of fraud in Chile:
Frez Arturo Nahum and Sunday, two of the five former executives of the multinational Tata accused in the Civil Registry, only a firm must meet monthly for one year and 30 hours of community service. This was decided yesterday, the Seventh Court of Guarantee, to grant the request for conditional stay of proceedings requested by the prosecutor Alejandra Godoy. This means that if the former managers comply with these measures will be dismissed from the case.
Another benefit from this alternative outlet was the key witness in the case, Flavio Venturini, who presented various backgrounds regarding the alleged fraud that the multinational concrete plans with former service director Guillermo Arenas. In total, 14 defendants who received the suspension.
The court also sentenced in court shortened to 541 days in prison and a fine of 1 UTM to the Civil Registry former aides Victor Araya, Luz Hernandez and Paula Espinosa, for the crime of fraud to the Treasury, following the diversion of monies to the U . Santiago.
Today will continue the hearing, which discussed the preparation of the trial of Arenas, former rector of the Usach Ubaldo Zúñiga and general manager of Tata, Henry Manzano.
Source http://diario.latercera.com/2010/07/21/01/contenido/9_33073_9.shtml
——–Ken Hall………the winter Olympics were on the WEST COAST of Canada ! Vancouver is on the Pacific not the Atlantic. Cheers.
Green-go Americans in CONUS tend to have a mental block about everything outside “The Land of the Round Doorknob” (aka to military personnel as “The World”). But it does seem strange in this day and age of worrying about everything and everybody, that we’re not hearing more about our neighbors in the Southern Hemisphere. (sarc on) I can’t believe the MSM are sitting on this news for some reason related to AGW (sarc off). Thanks for the update!
Jimbo says:
July 21, 2010 at 5:07 am
100s in Russia because of a heatwave???? How about the 25,000 exess weather deaths in tiny UK???????????
To be fair, the population of russia is only twice that of the UK. The UK is very densely populated.
Some of the UK’s population is very dense indeed.
While snow is pounding the southern hemisphere, record-breaking heat waves hit the northern hemisphere, floods kill over 1,000 people, and droughts reduce farmland to wasteland as crops become unharvestable. The EXACT SAME THING happened last northern winter, but in reverse – the US got hit with a wallop of snow in all 50 states, while Canada basked in temperatures 4C above normal on average nationwide. Heavy snow hit southern France, Spain, Italy, Eastern Europe, and Moscow, while parts of England were colder than Moscow. An abnormal weather pattern affected the flow of the Gulf Stream and diverted winds out of the Arctic over the landmasses of North America, Europe and Asia, while the warm oceans, holding much more accumulated heat content than the atmosphere, poured their heat toward the Arctic, disrupting the ice refreeze. Next, a switch took place and windstorms started hitting Europe, but most of the colder temperatures withdrew toward the Arctic and the melt season started late. The winter storms killed close to 1,000 people in the northern hemisphere, while droughts and floods hit Africa, more flooding and dead fish turned up in Brazil, and record-breaking thunderstorms, hailstorms and a tornado hit Australia. Now, the extra heat is pouring back into the Northern Hemisphere, and it keeps accumulating.
It’s summer in the Northern Hemisphere, and a global heat wave hits the Northern Hemisphere, affecting North America, Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and the Indian Subcontinent. No, this isn’t just a normal change in the seasons. Something about the seasons themselves is changing, and the precipitation patterns are changing more than the temperatures, which by themselves are changing as well. This is consistent with AGW projections, with one key difference: a lot of the expected effects are occuring much sooner than predicted.
Some people will focus on one thing, and one thing only: the fact that cold weather, snow storms and winter-like extreme weather is happening somewhere, someplace in the world, and forget that on average, things are still getting warmer and more extreme. When a cold wave and snow storms hit the southern US, fewer people believed in AGW as a result. When summer returned to the northern hemisphere, the same people who no longer believed in AGW turn to the southern hemisphere to look for any evidence at all of colder weather, and they find it. But the fact that extreme heat and extreme cold are occurring simultaneously is neither contradictory nor does it cancel out the effects of any climate trend. That would be like saying that because both floods are droughts are increasing or becoming more apparent, that there can be no change at all in precipitation. But it’s not just the precipitation itself that changes, it’s the precipitation patterns. Same with temperatures, except this time there is a trend, and one aspect of the trend is that everything is getting more erratic and severe, and this may prove global warming simply because we are shifting from an equllibrium to a steady increase, but while that increase occurs we can have both warming in some areas and cooling in others. Due to the non-linear nature of such a change, this does not contradict the greenhouse gas global warming theory. We’re not just getting the averages anymore. We’re getting the start of the extremes.
AstroH says:
“Some people will focus on one thing, and one thing only: the fact that cold weather, snow storms and winter-like extreme weather is happening somewhere, someplace in the world, and forget that on average, things are still getting warmer and more extreme.”
Exactly what ‘extreme’ weather is getting more extreme?
You pretend to give both sides of the argument, then pronounce your belief that CAGW is upon us.
No Sale.
AstroH says:
July 21, 2010 at 6:57 pm
“[…]This is consistent with AGW projections, […]”
I’m sure one of the 800 peer-reviewed studies Gavin Schmidt recommends projects exactly what you’re saying.
Same with temperatures, except this time there is a trend, and one aspect of the trend is that everything is getting more erratic and severe, and this may prove global warming simply because we are shifting from an equllibrium to a steady increase, but while that increase occurs we can have both warming in some areas and cooling in others. Due to the non-linear nature of such a change, this does not contradict the greenhouse gas global warming theory. We’re not just getting the averages anymore.
We’re getting the start of the extremes.
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Actually…we’re getting to the END of the extreme…madness…that is…the end of the black magic of a soon-to-be-washed-up, multi-billion-dollar industry and aberration of science.
And the Earth is 4.6 BILLION years old last time I checked.
You have no clue or idea (nor do any of us in our little drop in the bucket of history) of what “extreme” is.
It is entertaining, though, to hear the chicken littleing continue unabated.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
AstroH:
Lmao!
Not a shred of evidence, just pure, unadulterated emotional appeal!
List your facts!
My point in bringing up the heat wave was to show that for every cold-weather event dutifully reported here, it is not hard to find an equally significant warm event that is not. It is weather, and that is what weather does. The world is a big place. I am not saying any of this is climate change on either side. Anyway, it generated the right sort of debate in my view.
I’m glad all of you other troll repellers responded before I had to open up a can of Occam’s Razor whoop-ass on this deluded (AstroH) fool.
And troll-fool Jimmy D just chooses to remain clueless. The MSM gladly reports “warm-weather events”; but, for some stange reason you have to go to an internet blog to find out about “cold-weather events”. And the blog is the problem for you? How?
JimD:
If you want coverage of heatwaves, please check the ordinary news. As WUWT is off of the ordinary news path, I would expect that the cold weather be covered here. Indeed, the coverage of the heat waves is thick enough that expecting WUWT to cover it is a parody of sorts. I mean really, you came here for news about the heat wave? Do you really think anyone else did? I don’t mean this in a rude way, but please be serious.
In fact, if you think that the heat wave is such an important metric, please explain to me why the area I live in in Ohio is ~20F lower than the high temp set in 1934. And while you are thinking about that, what does the 2nd coldest July on record mean last year? What about NY not hitting 90 in July last year? Again, it is either important or not, but if it is not, neither is NY hitting 100 this year. Pick one.
Jim D says:
July 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm
My point in bringing up the heat wave was to show that for every cold-weather event dutifully reported here, it is not hard to find an equally significant warm event that is not.
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Uh huh.
And my point for bringing up the cold wave is that for every “cold weather event” that is reported here, is equally NOT reported on every network of the mainstream media.
Yet any “significant warm event”, in the MSM, gets front freakin’ page every time.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Jim D says:
July 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm
I am not saying any of this is climate change on either side. Anyway, it generated the right sort of debate in my view.
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Ha. You can’t stay in no man’s land forever, so your point here just muddies the water because the point is not valid.
And no, it has not sparked any debate. Just given a greater reason to attack the weak argument.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
I say weather is weather and climate is climate. You can be objective about weather events without compromising your beliefs on climate, but I noticed some hint of a spillover here, which is what I was drawing attention to. An article about one cold snap or heatwave is a weather article, not climate until you start looking at frequencies of multiple events. If their next cold snap comes next year, that’s starting to get interesting from the climate point of view, but if they have a once-per-decade event after ten years, not so interesting in terms of climate. You could be reporting those somewhere every week.
Some good humor there AstroH. It looks like it can be fun being a nonalarmist playing the role of alarmist [sitting back watching folks take the bait].
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The problem is actually not enough pollution. Sulphur dioxide until recently was being pumped into the atmosphere by all the coal fired power stations then some fool started complaining about acid rain damaging crops ( we all know how good acid is for cleaning things). Now what sulphur dioxide does is creates more clouds which prevent the nights from getting to cold and stops the days from getting too hot. Thats why the cold clear nights in the south and the hot days in the North. Burn more coal I say !
In Spanish there is no different word for Climate and Weather, just “Clima”.
I would love to hear an explanation about the differences of climate and weather in Spanish…