UPDATE: This book is now available for purchase online at Amazon.com click here
UPDATE 2: Kindle version now available for purchase online at Amazon.com click here
Electronic publishing has revolutionized the art of writing, now less than two months since it happened, we have the very first book about Climategate. My first story on Climategate appeared on November 19th, 2009: Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
I’ve read the book, and it appears to be an accurate and detailed portrayal of the history not only of the Climategate events and the players, but also of the events leading up to it. I’m flattered that this book mentions me and my surfacestations project several times. I was interviewed for the book, and this website is featured prominently–and they borrowed liberally from both the posts and the comments.
For those of you that want to follow a detective story, this one has as the twists and turns of Mickey Spillane with a Hardy Boys approach to a matter of fact story line. I highly recommend it.
This book is being published in electronic downloadable form, and is available for purchase online. You’ll recognize the authors as regulars here and at Climate Audit. Please consider purchasing this book, as it will provide funds to get Mosh out of the flat in San Francisco he shares with Charles The Moderator, who are becoming the climatic odd couple of our time.
Here are excerpts of the book:
In October of 2004 McIntyre and his criticism was on the radar of climate scientists. Tom Wigley writes Phil Jones about McIntyre’s and McKitrick’s work ( MM03) which is making its way around the internet. Wigley is not as dismissive of McIntyre’s and McKitrick’s work as is Michael Mann. In fact, Wigley calls Mann’s paper a very sloppy piece of work…
At 20:46 21/10/2004, [Tom Wigley]
Phil,
I have just read the M&M stuff critcizing MBH. A lot of it seems valid to me. At the very least MBH is a very sloppy piece of work — an opinion I have held for some time. Presumably what you have done with Keith is better? — or is it? I get asked about this a lot. Can you give me a brief heads up? Mike is too deep into this to be helpful.
Tom.
As Wigley notes M & M (McIntyre and McKitrick) have some valid points in their criticism of MBH ( Mann and his co authors 1998 paper). What Mann viewed as a stunt others found merit in. Wigley asks Jones about his reconstruction work with colleague Keith Briffa. Briffa, as the Climategate mails show and as his studies show was less certain about reconstructions of the MWP than Mann was. Jones, of course, is stuck between supporting Briffa or Mann, both co-authors. Most importantly Wigley recognizes that Mann is too deep in this to be helpful. Mann has too much at stake to be objective. Jones replies, by this time taking on some of Mann’s attitudes toward McIntyre and McKitrick:
From: Phil Jones p.jones@xxxxxx
To: Tom Wigley wigley@xxxxxx
Tom,
The attached is a complete distortion of the facts. M&M are completely wrong in virtually everything they say or do. I have sent them countless data series that were used in the Jones/Mann Reviews of Geophysics papers. I got scant thanks from them for doing this – only an email saying I had some of the data series wrong, associated with the wrong year/decade. I wasted a few hours checking what I’d done and got no thanks for pointing their mistake out to them. If you think M&M are correct and believable then go to this web site
Point I’m trying to make is you cannot trust anything that M&M write. ….
Bottom line – there is no way the MWP (whenever it was) was as warm globally as the last 20 years. There is also no way a whole decade in the LIA period was more than 1 deg C on a global basis cooler than the 1961-90 mean. This is all gut feeling, no science, but years of experience of dealing with global scales and varaibility.
Cheers
Phil
Jones’ “gut feeling” is at stake and he is clearly agitated by his encounters with McIntyre, a marked difference from their exchange in 2002. In 2002, McIntyre was merely a researcher asking for data, but by 2003 McIntyre was a published author leveling criticisms at Jones’ co author Michael Mann. Jones also refers Wigley to a web site that discussed M&M. The fight over MM03 was largely taking place on the web as McIntyre had started to write about his findings on a blog called www.climate2003.com. For independent researchers like McIntyre, posting articles on the internet was far more expedient than publishing in page limited journals. And just as citizen-journalists had transformed print journalism with the advent of blogs, climate science looked ripe to be transformed by the internet. McIntyre and McKitrick also adopted a publication model used by econometricians: they posted their data and their code so that anyone could check their work, find errors and suggest improvements. This gave them the moral high ground of transparency as opposed to Mann’s and Bradley’s shadowy world of “independent scientists,” although Mann and Bradley would certainly argue with some legitimacy that they were only following a century-old practice.”
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Steve McIntyre struggle for years to get accurate data out of the hands of an elite team of scientists in England and the U.S., only to be stymied by continued refusals and runarounds. At the beginning the data concerned work highlighted by your host, Anthony Watts, about the fidelity of the temperature records here in the United States. Later, it revolved around the data used in construction of proxy temperature records, such as the Hockey Stick Chart, now infamous for shoddy analysis and poor sample selection. Climategate, written by Steve Mosher and Tom Fuller, is an account of the events leading up to the leaking of over 1,000 emails and assorted files that exposes the unethical and perhaps illegal practices used by the Hockey Stick Team to protect their turf as well as their information. These rock star scientists dined with the elite and feasted on government grants, but it was all predicated on ‘hiding the decline:’ Making sure no-one saw how shaky their data, analysis and conclusions actually were. Hide the decline didn’t refer to temperatures–it was worse. It was a decline in the quality of their data they were trying to hide. This book puts it all into context–and in context it is worse. Mosher actually played a small part in bringing the details to light (although your zany moderator Charles the First was more instrumental), and Fuller covered the story for examiner.com from day one of the scandal. Here’s an excerpt: “In Chapter 6 we introduce the Army of Davids that will start the laborious process of documenting all the surface stations in the US. McIntyre starts dissecting the Jones 1990 paper and his intense focus on individual cases finds a sympathetic ear in Anthony Watts, who launches an even more detailed look at individual cases in the US. Discussions about UHI and data and code turn from a focus on Jones 1990 to a focus on NASA and their GISSTEMP code, which is eventually released.
At the start of May, McIntyre links to a blogger named Anthony Watts, a former TV meteorologist who was convinced that temperature monitoring stations in the United States were in dire shape and could not be trusted to create a temperature record, especially one that the world would use as a reference point for dealing with climate change. During the summer, Watts would launch a nationwide volunteer effort to document the weather collection stations used by NOAA, NASA, CRU and Jones. The effort that Trenberth thought too large for any one individual would be handled under Watts’ generalship by a true army of Davids across the nation, using the tools of the internet. The goal very simply was to document the status of the temperature collection stations. Many hands made light work of the job scientists thought too large to attempt.
Tom Karl of NOAA takes notice of Watts but is not sure how it will turn out.
From: “Thomas.R.Karl” <Thomas.R.Karl@xxxxx>
To: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FW: retraction request
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:21:57 -0400
Thanks Phil, We R now responding to a former TV weather forecaster who has got press, He has a web site of 40 of the USHCN stations showing less than ideal exposure. He claims he can show urban biases and exposure biases. We are writing a response for our Public Affairs. Not sure how it will play out. Regards, Tom
That effort, ridiculed at first by bloggers in the warmist faction, would in the end garner Watts a visit to NCDC to discuss his work. Moreover, in the end NOAA would engage in an effort to bring the climate network up to better quality standards. As of July 2009 the volunteer effort, hosted at www.surfacestations.org. had surveyed 1,003 of the 1,221 stations used by NOAA and corrected mistakes in the official metadata.:
Readers from this site can finish that part of the story.
Buy the book here
Has the book been peer reviewed?
Are the authors in the pay of Big Oil?
The authors aren’t climate scientists…
The book doesn’t prove anything cause the icecaps are still melting….
/sarc off
I’ve got an autographed copy of “Is the US Surface Temperature Record Reliable?”
(“Stay Cool”). How do I get an autographed copy of “The Crutape Letters”?
“Detroit – The auto industry’s green efforts to meet strict new mpg rules are the dominant theme inside the 2010 North American International Auto Show. But outside Cobo Center, it’s not just the frigid winter temperatures that have cast doubt on global warming science that is driving the biggest regulatory challenge to the industry in a generation. E-mails leaked from the world’s top climatology center in England have exposed influential scientists doctoring data and suppressing scientific debate. Some in Congress have demanded an investigation.
On Tuesday before a Detroit Athletic Club audience in downtown Detroit, The Detroit News and WJR Radio brought together leaders from the fields of climatology, energy politics, and the auto industry to debate whether the so-called Climategate scandal has undermined auto regulations.”
Climategate panel: Are green auto rules based on flawed science? (Video)
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100114/OPINION01/1140448/1008/opinion01/Climategate-panel–Are-green-auto-rules-based-on-flawed-science
There’s no announcement on Amazon, which is my regular choice for book purchase……
AND the polar bears are still dying!
…as it will provide funds to get Mosh out of the flat in San Francisco he shares with Charles The Moderator…
I’m going to buy it, but I am not at all happy that I may be even one small assistant in breaking up this productive team. Who would make the coffee?
Nice work on the book. Charles the moderator had a great influence and deserves credit. Perhaps Charles will have the place to himself soon. WUWT also gets lots of credit and I am proud you guys are first. My only criticism, perhaps there should be a hyphen between CRU and Tape in the title, but what do I know.
Anthony/Charles/Steve
Guys, well done, and as the next AIG News is now being compiled, would any of you three be prepared to draft a short (A4 – 3-4 page) summary of Steve’s book for publication in a month’s time?
Deadline is 31 January, 2010.
get me on email please.
How soon before it is listed on Amazon?
missed the opportunity for a snappier headline: History in a Harry?
Charles,
The link to buying Steve’s book is, er , problematical.
🙂 Doing a Lubos
Reply: I’ll take a look in a few minutes. I have comments to approve. ~ ctm
Has the book been peer reviewed? – I hope not! The peer review process is broken and in some cases corrupt.
Are the authors in the pay of Big Oil? – So what? Don’t you drive a car or use public transport?
The authors aren’t climate scientists… – That’s good – there is no such thing as a climate scientist. It’s a field of study that’s too diverse and complex to be understood even at a high level by any scientists. Besides neither were the IPCC authors so called “climate scientists”.
The book doesn’t prove anything cause the icecaps are still melting…. They have been melting for 1000’s of years. So what?
I’d like to buy this, but wanted the electronic version – the link doesn’t seem to lead to that unless I missed it. Can anyone help?
This seems to be an emerging theme. The auto industry and Beef industry going after the fraudsters. Others will follow.
Cattlemen fight EPA with ‘Climategate’
http://www.capitalpress.com/lvstk/TH-beef-appeal-011510
Rather than the ‘climatic odd couple’ I haVe more a vision of Mosh and CTM as the characters in the ‘Big Bang theory.’ Who is the cool and supercilious one?
Great work and thanks for the insightful comments and great moderation work carried out here.
There are now quite a few books looking at climate related subjects from different angles and I wonder if it could be worth having a section here where they are all drawn together to make purchasing easier?
Tonyb
Reply: I’m the cool grumpy one. It just doesn’t make any sense. ~ ctm
I would like to buy the book but am in the UK. Is this going to be on Amazon.co.uk or another UK outlet anytime soon?
Sweet, I called that one early…
Kudos to authors and how can one not contribute to the “flat upgrade fund” – I’ll snag a copy for history reference.
I’m Zany????
Dude, Zany moderators don’t get those Australian hotties all steamed up and throwing their panties at the monitor.
Charles: 2 items.
1. You have the Australian female mixed up. Think Daisy Mae
2. Amazon don’t have the electronic version of The Flatmates showing, Any ideas?
Reply:
1. And that’s problem how?
2. Not really my job, but I’m looking into it anyway.
~ ctm
New Scientist moves CY it’s A on glacier claims.
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2010/01/16/new-scientist-magazine-backpeddles-in-cya-move-and-acknowledges-climate-science-has-been-damaged-by-the-climategate-emails
I think I’ve located one of the thermometers GISS uses. http://failblog.org/2010/01/15/temperature-fail/
This guy should get carbon credits for the CO2 he’s sequestering with his car, and his suit, and hat, and tie…
http://pictureisunrelated.com/2010/01/13/going-green-extreme-edition/
That’s not a problem but a reality check, Charles, In Climategate—The CTM story you:
Reply: I sincerely believe that all the compliments from Australian females are from women who look like younger versions of Elle MacPherson. ~ ctm
GR8.
I can’t be the first to coin the expression ‘Pal Reviewed’, but in case I am, you read it first here.
I’m also interested in an electronic version as the postage to Australia is almost as much as the book price.
“charles the moderator (02:38:29) :
I’m Zany????
Dude, Zany moderators don’t get those Australian hotties all steamed up and throwing their panties at the monitor.”
There aren’t any “hotties” apart from Indira Naidoo and Myf Warhurst IMO.
Hopefully Mosher has seen fit to leave me out of this.
Mod.:There’s a glitch in the second paragraph. Change “is” to “are” in:
I’m flattered that I and my surfacestations project is mentioned …
And maybe change “I” to “myself”?
PS to the Mod: Maybe also boldface “click for details” under the caption of the figure, so people don’t miss it.
Michael (00:30:57) ‘…My only criticism, perhaps there should be a hyphen between CRU and Tape in the title, but what do I know’. I assume that the title CRUTape letters is a play on the title ‘ScrewTape Letters by C.S.Lewis.
Order done. Hope you make bags of money coz you truly deserve it.
I will buy the book.
Tho I’m also reminded by this piece that a short update on the status of the surfacestations project would be nice, and a more thorough update in early spring for “collection season” even nicer. Surely the goal line is in sight?
Bishop Hill is asking for advice on how to get his book “The Hockey Stick Illusion” published in the US. Would any sympathetic souls like to go over there and advise?
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/
Okay, I’m confused. The article above says its an electronic downloadable publication (which frankly I’d prefer), but the “buy the book here” link is showing a shipping charge and a Feb 06 delivery date. Please advise!
Finally, an opportunity to exercise some moderation muscle without get the modertatees(*) bent out of shape with a bee in their bonnet. (Each of their bonnets?) (The bonnet owned by each of them (as opposed to all of them))
(*): Like a manatee, only different.
Need more coffee.
change the title of the book to “Lies, Deception and how to profit from being a denier.” That would be much more appropriate.
Bought it last night! A little worried because it said it should arrive in like two weeks. I want it now!! 🙂
Mosher and Fuller, thank you for writing this book. Bishop Hill has one coming out too. Fantastic job!
Re: charles the moderator (02:38:29) :
I’m Zany????
Dude, Zany moderators don’t get those Australian hotties all steamed up and throwing their panties at the monitor
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The more I learn about climategate, the stranger my mental images of the cast & crew becomes. Maybe you and Mosh should make the most of the media exposure and start a reality show? Sceptics have more fun and the poor embattled and embittered warmists can only look on with envy 🙂
Now back to figuring out how best to end up with a hardcopy of this book in the UK..
Regarding the revelations about the state of the science,
to use the oft muttered phrase “It is much worse than we thought!”.
Good job people!
Climategate Book Industries Inc. When are you going to publish your book Anthony? Waiting for Lubos, McSteve, Warren Meyer, Monckton to publish their books while momentum is still going. Who said there’s no money in the sceptic camp?
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Keep the spotlight on the dirty climategate iceberg and a lot of filth will be discovered.
The problem is an unholy alliance of Politicians & Scientists.
Let’s not focus our attention and vent our anger exclusively on the Scientists. Yes, they are scoundrels but they only did what was asked.
Scientists were trained to lie, distort, and manipulate data to get “scientific proof” of whatever the politicians wanted.
Scientists merely lied to stay in good graces of the politicians who controlled their research funds.
Politicians are sensitive to public opinions. Scientists are not.
To clean up this mess, NAS President Ralph Ciscerone should be asked publicly and repeatedly why public tax funds were directed to research Scientists who were willing to deceive the very public that paid for their research.
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA PI for Apollo
Love the title…
“The CRUtape letters” is a variant of “The Screwtape Letters” which was a fictional work by CS Lewis, basically chronicalling a series of letters back and forth between a senior and junior daemon talking about how to corrupt the junior daemon’s charge.
“The CRUtape letters” on the other hand is a series of letters back and forth between daemons talking about how to corrupt science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters
I believe any book on Climategate *must* make the New York Times best seller list if it is going to have a real impact on the debate. An E-Book may make the author(s) a handsome income selling ‘to the quire,’ but I believe a ‘best-seller’ is required to reach those people who believe denial of ‘Global Warming’ is a diehard refusal to accept what everyone having any modicum of concern for our environment know to be right.
I bet this new book won’t show up on Google:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/01/16/lawrence-solomon-better-off-with-bing.aspx
;->
Paul
Jacob Livingston (05:21:50) :
change the title of the book to “Lies, Deception and how to profit from being a denier.” That would be much more appropriate.
Know the outcome before you see the data Jacob?
Where have we seen that before?
Absolutely great news that a book one can rely on for the facts of the CAGW scam is available.
@ Roger Nights.
Please, please stop encouraging the silly UK habit of saying or writing ‘myself’ when one should say or write ‘I’. It’s teeth-grindingly irritating to hear or to see in print and is incorrect grammar.
I ordered this several days ago. Looking forward to reading it. Also, thinking of it as a souvenir!
This may become a very interesting book, now and in some years ahead.
was about to buy it but createspace.com is really annoying when billing and shipping adresses are in different countries and even trying to charge shipping costs, no mention of electronic delivery .. to Europe fees are more than the book costs. Strange system. Their support will not be working before monday …
However, have to have it.
Jacob Livingston (05:21:50) :
change the title of the book to “Lies, Deception and how to profit from being a denier.” That would be much more appropriate.
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Reply:
Please, Jacob–enlighten us! Show us one lie. Back up your allegation with proof. If you can’t, you now have egg on your face like Mann (I think he’s got a 12-egg omelet on his), or Jones (12-egg omelet there, too), and the rest of the egg-on-face-sporting clowns involved and implicated in this fraudulent escapade. (James Hansen may be the biggest clown of all, and rightly so–he’s a felon and shouldn’t even be close to NASA.)
For me the rule of thumb to determine who’s right is which group is willing to open up to complete and total inspection. Any group that refuses to adhere to FOI requests cannot be trusted. And when their schemes are displayed in emails to fellow saboteurs, all suspicions are confirmed. It’s especially damnable when those covering up are using public funds to do it.
But justice comes, albeit in a different manner than most think it will. Already, the insurance industry is taking a different tact when it comes to climate-related risk assessment. If the insurance industry won’t back it, the chirade is up; you’ve lost the argument regardless of how devoted you are to the religion.
Phil Jones signs off on an email to Mann.
Your affectionate uncle,
Screwtape!
Kindle edition please!
I’m infuriated about Mann getting the big grant after what he has done and what type person he is. But, it seems everyday there is something to get upset about coming from the current administration. The Czar program is especially unbelievable and maddening. The problem is there is usually nothing you can do about any of these things except vote and even that is questionable at times like the recent outcome of the senate race up in Minnesota.
I will buy the book and keep sending money to this site because it will help to expose these folks and also keep them trying to explain their silly science.
I am sure the book blurb will carry a review from Phil Jones, reading:
“Darn it! We would have got away with it, if it wasn’t for those pesky kids!”
who are becoming the climatic odd couple of our time.
There’s no spaghetti stuck to the wall is there?
Good job!, but how to pay and download this publication??
I know the plants would love the extra Co2 added by distribution, but I really prefer a PDF
Tokyoboy,
I suspect that it will make it onto Amazon after awhile (after the authors recoup some expenses), but speaking as a self published author myself, Amazon isn’t generous with the people that do the actual work of researching, writing, editing and publishing a book. They take a 55 percent cut of the sales price.
If at all possible (int’l sales sound problematic), don’t wait for Amazon. Go to Mosh and Fuller’s website to buy the book, the authors (and CTM) will appreciate it more.
The evidence of duplicity is clear and convincing.
And among AGW sceptics well known.
The challenge is getting the word out to the general population.
Proposal: Operation coffee table.
Place this book out on the coffee table at your home or office (reception waiting area) and perhaps the book will serve as “conversation starter” or maybe just quietly prick the interest of those who see and pick up the book.
This is a situation where the “high priests” of Global Baloney WILL NEVER admit to being wrong — too much is at stake for them: Grants, professional pride, and world-view.
The answer is to encapsulate the “high priests” in a sea of informed citizenry who will demand their elected represenatives to reject the AGW hypothesis (there’s not enough evidence to call it a “theory”) and after some political momentum (a battlefield victory) push harder to cut off governmental funding (a clear signal for these folks to do something else).
Youtube generation meets old-school; the younger generation has eschewed (shunned) the classics for ‘contemporary’, populist HuffPo, et at.
Ref: The Screwtape Letters “The Screw tape Letters is a compilation of letters of recommendation from a knowledgeable older devil to his nephew Wormwood, a junior tempter. ”
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Addendum to (08:28:20) comment :
Some might say, “Cut of their funding? No, that’s exactly what they attempted to do to the other side, it’s against the spirit of scientific inquiry.”
There is something to that critique.
I strongly suspect there are plenty of private sources for funding of this sort of research, let the private sector pay the dime for their time — precious tax dollars shouldn’t be spent on supporting this fraudulent world-view.
Less than two months after Climategate (sic) broke publicly on November 20th, scarcely a week goes by without devastating new refutations of the collusive, deceitful, thoroughly discreditable Green Gang– Briffa, Hansen, Jones, MAnn, Trenberth et al.
Minuscule, skewed data-samples, grossly manipulated for propaganda purposes; invalid methodology producing prima facie fraudulent results; concerted efforts to blacklist and smear opponents, wreck careers, all for the most grubby and sordid ideological motives– these are your Climate Cultist, Luddite sociopaths without a grain of disinterested integrity or even self-respect.
Not only are tree-ring (dendrochronological) data meaningless as cited by Warmists, but actual records depict precisely opposite effects. Pitifully vandalized surface-temperature composites have been rendered worse than useless, 150 years of carefully accumulated readings consciencelessly destroyed.
Just recently, German physicists reviewing Warmist theses in a 125-page monograph conclude definitively that thermodynamic Conservation Laws render “greenhouse effects” impossible: First, because heat dissipates to outer space from global atmospheric “open systems”, and second, because even in closed systems thermal equilibrium entails entropic cooling rather warming processes.
On top of this, we also know –though “climate science” (sic) chooses to ignore such things– that Lorenz’s Chaos Theory (1964) prohibits linear extrapolations from “complex dynamic systems” (any system of three or more mutually interacting variables), while “punctuated equilibrium” defined by Nobelist Ilya Prigogine et al. makes nonsense of attempts to rely on stable baselines. In fine, Warmists’ self-serving expatiations are literal fantasies: AGW neither has nor can have, mathematically or physically in any context or perspective, the slightest application to Nature’s actual behavior.
Documenting Green Gang con-artists’ ongoing subversion of scientific inquiry combined with predatory raids on public fiscs, will require years. Mosher and Fuller’s reprise is a good start… meantime, by June 2010 it will have become painfully obvious even to committed Gangers that the esteemed objects of their affection will never publish anything professionally again.
It does not make a good impression when this site promises electronic downloads of the book and then there is no reply from the moderator (or anyone else) in response to people asking how to obtain electronic downloads.
[It doesn’t make a good impression when contributors miss the link at the final word of the post 😉 RT – mod]
Reply: The mods and Anthony did not have anything to do with publishing this book, but I am looking into to anyway to see what assistance I can provide. ~ ctm
I went to the link to buy the book. What a pain! It only took me about 20 minutes to get through this mess. I think you are going to miss a few sales to grumpy old men with this round-about ‘createspace’ web page, and now I’ve got a new on-line account with someplace I really don’t need one, never heard of before, won’t get the book for 3 weeks, if and when I do get it.
Your salvation is that I wanted to support the authors.
Reading through the excerpt above, I think it could have waited a bit longer for more proofreading and editing. The content seems intriguing, though.
Sad Science
You have flogged your argument to death.
You are wrong. Get over it already.
Marty Ball
I predict Mosher and Fuller’s account will become the gold standard for cited sources on Climategate in the future historical omnibus on how climate change hysteria and treachery swept the planet in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Future generations will wonder how huge numbers of apparently sane, educated people were so willing to believe a theory with no substance or evidence to back it up.
That was an impressive effort to publish a book in such a short time with so much information to sort through.
Excellent work gentlemen.
peace,
Tim
Marlene Anderson (09:39:12) :
I predict Mosher and Fuller’s account will become the gold standard for cited sources on Climategate in the future historical omnibus on how climate change hysteria and treachery swept the planet in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Future generations will wonder how huge numbers of apparently sane, educated people were so willing to believe a theory with no substance or evidence to back it up.
Marlene, the answer is simple – Money, Media Propaganda and Media Censoring of the Truth, thank god for the Internet (despite Googlebest attempts at hiding it)
Woah there mod. The link on the last word goes to the createspace page for the paper book. There’s no indication I can find of where to go for an electronic version. I *want* to buy this, but can’t find how to do it for the e-book.
Maybe you could help out so I can buy this?
[My bad. I’ve emailed Mosh and CTM for a clue on this. RT – mod]
I ordered my copy a couple of days ago. The cost, with shipping, was about $20.
I would have gotten the book in electronic form if I had known it was available. Guess I gotta read the ordering info next time.
Like a lot of readers of CA and WUWT, I have been watching this drama play out for years, and I am glad that I can buy a book written by one of the participants. We all feel like we were there when it was happening.
Thanks – I’ve purchased a copy.
I have a serious question. As an avid reader and (very) occasional contributor, would there be any way that I could ship the book to S. Mosher’s business address and have him and CTM autograph it?
I work in the “Alternative Energy business” and am constantly in discussions w/people that are blinded by ideology. I would love to have this as a reference book on my desk (complete w/author autographs).
Hey – when is the movie coming out? You’ve all the ingredients for a bollywood blockbuster!
Cheers
Mick
John F. Hultquist (09:13:10) :
I bought it too, and found it quick and simple. Try putting autofill on your google toolbar.
Paypal would have been nice, because the most difficuly part was typing in my credit card number.
Pachauri might even fund it! Now that would be nice!
In the UK climategate and the hacking of CRU are the least commented on events ever. Negotiators from these tiny islands,’fighting our corner’, have gone to Madrid to demand 30% cuts in CO2 emissions; luckily they have been restrained by the EU who have limited them to 20%. Apparently Germany doesn’t want to become too uncompetitive on the global stage. Our lot just don’t care as we do not produce anything anyway – only failed banks perhaps.
No John A . I did not see fit to leave you out of this.
Sept 18th 2006 I believe ( recalling from Memory) A post you did 10 days
Prior to Willis issuing his first FOIA. I believe the thread had to do with A NAS refusal to go ask the scientists for data. In that post you basically asked when will Mc stopp pussy footing around and use the FOIA
10 days later Willis will issue the very first FOIA. 5 months later
he will make the first public announcement of this.
Long ago Bender told me to read all of CA. For the book I had to. every last
comment. my eyes bled. my sides ached. my bladder burst cause I couldnt leave the computer, the story was so cool.
Well the sceptics have had targets painted on them and Sad Science is just one of the snipers.
It works like this. The name of the game is ‘control both sides’. If there is opposition the secret services put their own people out to lead it (the secret services used to recruit mostly from Oxford and Cambridge so many are Oxbridge graduates). A good strategy might be to get their people funded by oil companies and then put them in the driving seats of the sceptic’s buses. Sceptics have been tarnished by oil company funding even though the oil companies primarily fund the other side. Its about time this issue was seriously looked at.
The media is also full of secret service recruits. It’s the same in most western countries. As if that wasn’t enough the media is also controlled by the multinationals (as are governements) and the stories are just fillers between adverts. Amongst the few journalists who do cover the AGW scam are some ‘controlled opposition’ shills who merely repeat what has already been reported somewhere else and then they take their trusting followers they will take them down dead ends.
One such dead end is to link themselves in some way to outrageous conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones (it paints another target on sceptics) who goes on about how the swine flu vaccines were a plot to exterminate people and how the US government were setting up FEMA concentration camps etc etc. If certain sceptic’s bus drivers are interviewed by Alex jones or if they are funded by oil companies (or both) then think carefully about what is going on here. It could be they are just stupid and naive, it could also be that they are taking advantage of any publicity that they can get because there aren’t a lot of outlets but it might also be a deliberate strategy at tarnishing the sceptics by associating them with ‘pretend loonies’.
I study propaganda by the way.
I know you guys are uber-busy, but it doesn’t leave a good impression when the authors and/or the website chastise those who did NOT miss the link at the final word of the post, went there and found a confusing page, at best. If the E-book version is offered there, it could not be found by myself after much searching. I am one of those “grumpy old men”, as John F. Hultquist put it, and I would truly like to support the efforts of this site and the authors. But, at this time, you are making it hard to do so.
I consider this site and many of the skeptic scientists and webmasters to be heroes for standing up to the power of groups like the U.N., the EPA, NASA, Albore, CRU and all the entrenched moneyed interests that have sought to beat the skeptics down. I have every confidence that you will eventually get the oppurtunity to buy this book right, rather than take a CRU type attitude towards those of us that do not fit the needs of the site offering the book at present.
Here’s hoping the the book becomes, like its subject, one of those viral phenomenons that the web is capable of producing occasionally. And thanks for all the hard work. Us regular working stiff, non-scientist sceptics appreciate your work more than you will ever know.
I’ve just talked to Tom.
Kindle version is 15 days away.
We may start a blog to sell a PDF version online, but
1. with the exception of this book, I do comments. In the margin.
2. I spell worse than Lucia.
Lemme see.
“Kindle version is 15 days away.”
Woo-hoo!
Does that mean an Amazon hand-held version too?
AND the polar bears are still dying!
That would be the digital ones that reside in the virtual Arctic. The real living, breathing, CO2 emitting ones polluting our atmosphere (according to the EPA) in the real physical Arcitc are doing just fine TYVM.
Ahh, despite the original post, an electronic version is not yet available. Okay. I’ll wait. Consider me pre-ordered for a .pdf version.
For anyone who wants to publish a digital product (PDF, Software, etc.) check out Clickbank. About $50 to hook up your product, CB handles all payment processing and provides a return guarantee, built in affiliate program (Bob sells your stuff, gets paid by CB,) instant download from just about anywhere, etc. Pretty sweet setup.
My bias? My wife has two PDF cookbooks on CB, we’ve bought several products (not cookbooks,) and have made some money through that affiliate program. Otherwise we have no direct relationship with CB.
I’m sure it usually is wrong, but in this case a substitution might (remember, I said “maybe” and appended a “?”) make for easier reading, because the current version lacks parallelism and forces the reader to do a double-take:
Now that I’ve thought about it for more than five seconds, here’s a version that should be acceptable to all:
REPLY: Fine, fixed- A
nofate (11:17:38) :
“[It doesn’t make a good impression when contributors miss the link at the final word of the post 😉 RT – mod]“
I know you guys are uber-busy, but it doesn’t leave a good impression when the authors and/or the website chastise those who did NOT miss the link at the final word of the post…
MarkP (10:15:58) :
Maybe you could help out so I can buy this?
[My bad. I’ve emailed Mosh and CTM for a clue on this. RT – mod]
Looks like polite questions get polite replies. 😉
Hope you guys have made a great deal with the movie companies. What do we reckon, Matt Damon and Russ Crowe in the lead roles?
“Bottom line – there is no way the MWP (whenever it was) was as warm globally as the last 20 years. There is also no way a whole decade in the LIA period was more than 1 deg C on a global basis cooler than the 1961-90 mean. This is all gut feeling, no science, but years of experience of dealing with global scales and varaibility.
Cheers
Phil”
Really? Does he not know that cannons were sleighed across the frozen Hudson in the transport to Boston in the 1770’s? Or that de Vaca when he was exploring south Texas in the 1500’s reported that he could not find oysters since the estuaries were frozen over? None of these things remotely happen today. Phil Jones = idiot
Angela, as long as Al Gore stars as the bad guy in the movie who ends up in jail in the end.
Movie
Make it a Batman type movie – Al Gore could be the Joker – there would be good roles for Jones et all too.
cheers
Mick
I’ve already ordered this book, now I am awaiting the most wanted ClimateGate deck of cards”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most-wanted_Iraqi_playing_cards
tallbloke (12:22:40) :
nofate (11:17:38) :
“[It doesn’t make a good impression when contributors miss the link at the final word of the post 😉 RT – mod]“
I know you guys are uber-busy, but it doesn’t leave a good impression when the authors and/or the website chastise those who did NOT miss the link at the final word of the post…
MarkP (10:15:58) :
Maybe you could help out so I can buy this?
[My bad. I’ve emailed Mosh and CTM for a clue on this. RT – mod]
Looks like polite questions get polite replies. 😉
I get the sense that I’m being politely chastised. If I was in any way rude, i.e. impolite, I apologize- to the moderator. But “RT – mod” ‘s reply to “Charles Platt (08:55:01) ” was at least mildly condescending, IMO. I was just trying to point out that some of us mildly technologically challenged “grumpy old men” were not getting the results we expected. I’m not sure how “I would truly like to support the efforts of this site and the authors. But, at this time, you are making it hard to do so.” could be construed as impolite. Also, at the time I was writing my comment, this reply was not on my screen:
“Reply: The mods and Anthony did not have anything to do with publishing this book, but I am looking into to anyway to see what assistance I can provide. ~ ctm”. And that is what I expected would eventually happen on a site of this quality. These little glitches just take time to work out.
A mere 2-3 days after ordering and selecting the low-cost shipping option, I was astonished to find my copy in the mailbox today! Thanks to all. Now, to curl up with a cuppa and, no doubt, a good read….
charles the moderator (02:38:29) :
I’m Zany????
Dude, Zany moderators don’t get those Australian hotties all steamed up and throwing their panties at the monitor.
Good job they’re not from Yorkshire! They would be called Nora Batty and the panties would cause serious structural damage.
The amazingly prescient Mel Brooks actually predicted our modern era of “history in a hurry”:
Come to think of it, the whole Climategate story bears more than a passing resemblance to the plot of “The Producers”.
nofate (13:37:38) :
I get the sense that I’m being politely chastised. If I was in any way rude, i.e. impolite, I apologize- to the moderator. But “RT – mod” ’s reply to “Charles Platt (08:55:01) ” was at least mildly condescending, IMO.
RT – mod didn’t reply to Charles Platt, CTM mod did so, having been asked by RT – mod for assistance with your request via email. It looks more factual than condescending to me.
We do our best, give us a break, and enjoy the book! 😉
Rog tallbloke
Congratulations to Steven Mosher, Thomas W. Fuller on your book. I’ll buy a copy.
Everybody should take my previous comment seriously. I’m not a conspiracy theorist. What I said (although a little rushed and badly written) is a real danger.
If it helps to convince people that I know what I’m talking about then here is a small extract of some of my work.
The ownership of the mainstream Western media with the exception of the BBC is largely concentrated in the hands of a small elite group of Fortune 500 corporations (Paterson 1998; Baker 2007). These leading media organisations although highly competitive with each other are also allied supplying each other with news reports from which they all profit (Paterson). A free media is necessary to act as a government watchdog in order to safeguard democracy (Herman & Chomsky, 2002). However Cohen (2005) argues that these huge media empires driven by profit maximisation have in league with government offices and agencies been spinning political and corporate media deception thus betraying the masses and undermining democracy. For example Routledge (2001) pointed out that Tony Blair’s government was filled with journalists whom he named and identified to be from almost every major British newspaper and TV station. But powerful non-media global corporations also exert a strong influence on the policies of politicians and political parties as well as the media.
Just wondering if you guys at WUWT have picked up on this article on the climategate emails by Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter and Malcolm Ritter in the Australian? ie nothing to see here folks so let’s just move on OK?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/a-wholesale-climate-fraud-not-here/story-e6frg6zo-1225819884224
Also comments on article by Andrew Bolt:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/climategate_ap_asks_believers_to_give_the_all_clear
Jerry (15:35:52) :
I wonder whether Prof Chomsky has any trouble with how consent is obtained now that his guy is in the white house? I’m thinking we won’t hear much from him for a while.
Just to clarify, I’m not angry or anything. This looks like a great offering, I just want to make sure to buy it in electronic form so I can search it as well as read it.
Side note: Is that the Charles Platt that wrote the Make: Electronics book?
Hope you guys have made a great deal with the movie companies. What do we reckon, Matt Damon and Russ Crowe in the lead roles?
But much more important, Angela, who all’s gonna be playing the Warming Models that they’ll have to CRU around with?
Great work, Messrs. Mosher and Fuller (and A. Watts and crew of the good ship WUWT). This will perhaps be one of the turning points in the battle against zealots and ‘scientific’ harlots, and a return to reason and actual scientific advance in understanding this fantastic globe we inhabit.
But, some here are learning about the pitfalls of not being quite ready when rolling the thing out. Ask Steve Jobs to give you an idea of the incendiary response when the “next great product” doesn’t meet one or two of God knows how many expectations. I’ll buy the book in Rev. 2 of the sales process, which I know you’re working overtime to perfect. The rest of you folk – calm down. Most of you are old enough to contain yourselves.
Quick update for all–first, many thanks for the kind words of support about the project.
On to the problems. First, we self published using CreateSpace, which is owned by Amazon. When we signed up, we were informed that we would be carried on Amazon.com as a regular title. Afterwards, we learned that it would take 15 days for them to have it on their database. For those wanting to wait for Amazon, that’s the timeline. We are assured that we will then be able to have a Kindle version available. However, we don’t know yet if that will happen immediately.
We are investigating making an electronic version available on our own. We should have that figured out, at least, by tomorrow. If anybody knows an outfit that is quicker than Clickbank, let us know. They seem very reputable, but some of their requirements will take time for us to satisfy.
We’re open to suggestions from all and sundry. Mr. Sundry-this means you…
Thanks again
Tom and Steve
Almost on topic, further exposure that is. The London Times is carrying an article in its environment section covering the issues about the Himalayan Glaciers and just when might they melt.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece
Mick.
Invariant (13:35:47) : I’ve already ordered this book, now I am awaiting the most wanted ClimateGate deck of cards”.
Ah, yes! Good thought, Invariant. Would make a nice pair.
tallbloke (14:36:28)
Doesn’t matter. The problem is solved, as I pointed out that I had faith it would be, as ” Tom Fuller (18:48:15) : “points out.
As to mods: Is ” RT – mod” a moderator, as in
“Charles Platt (08:55:01) : …
[It doesn’t make a good impression when contributors miss the link at the final word of the post 😉 RT – mod]” and
“MarkP (10:15:58) :
Woah there mod. The link on the last word goes to the createspace page for the paper book. There’s no indication I can find of where to go for an electronic version. I *want* to buy this, but can’t find how to do it for the e-book.
Maybe you could help out so I can buy this?
[My bad. I’ve emailed Mosh and CTM for a clue on this. RT – mod”
I understand that ctm – mod also replied to Charles Platt, so I do not understand your reply. Are you a moderator too? Your comment:
“We do our best, give us a break, and enjoy the book! 😉
Rog tallbloke”,
made me wonder. Also, I am not trying to chastise anyone running this site or doing the moderators job, and I believe I made that clear in my original comment. Just trying to point out that there were problems, for me at least, as well as Charles Platt, with getting to the spot where the electronic version could be accessed.
Also, do not unerstand this:
“RT – mod didn’t reply to Charles Platt, CTM mod did so, having been asked by RT – mod for assistance with your request via email.”
I’ve not received nor sent any emails with regard to this. Are you talking about the mods emailing?
I think some of the confusion stems from the fact that as the mods work through the process, the comments go up, in some cases, a while after they are logged in (at least that is how it appears to me). Some of the moderator replies to the commenters go up even later than that, and they were not up on my screen when I first wrote my comment. If they had been up, I would not even have written my comment, as it would have been already apparent that someone was already working on the “problem”, as I pointed out I was sure they would.
Thanks for your time. Sorry about any confusion and I hope I didn’t take up any moderator’s time unnecessarily.
nofate, email me at thomaswfuller at gmail dot com. I’ll sort you out.
I don’t need anyone to prove to me that the global warming agendists are lying, so I am good to go.
Congrats WUWT & supporters as well as all AGW Skeptics. This is truly great work by all…Messrs. Mosher, Fuller and A. Watts + crew! I will be buying Climate Gate as soon as possible.
I am just happy & appreciative to have found and been a reader of WUWT, RealClimate, Andy Bolt and the other proud ‘Truthers’ to apply a twisted lefty tone to the Skeptics!
INGSOC You can’t dismiss what I say because of one small quote from Chomsky. Whatever political position Chomsky has taken (I’m not a fan of his and wouldn’t trust his opinion on many issues) the quote of his that I used in my introduction is a well known quote and is still true. I don’t draw upon any more of his work. But this is a good example of a real issue that I pointed out in my earlier comment. Many people will dismiss the arguements of those who are linked to people who are funded by people in the oil industry even though what they say might be true. Likewise being linked to Alex Jones is a sure way of being dismissed as a conspiracy theorist. I just want people to be aware.
nofate (20:20:36) :
I’ve not received nor sent any emails with regard to this. Are you talking about the mods emailing?
Yes. I emailed CTM for assistance after Mark P pointed out my error, because CTM is in frequent contact with the Author of the book.
Thanks for your time. Sorry about any confusion and I hope I didn’t take up any moderator’s time unnecessarily.
No problem, and apologies to you and Charles Platt for my part in the mixup.
How come when I look at this thread I see two comments and not 107?
Reply: You have probably installed CA assistant and have the settings set to “hide older comments” ~ ctm
Gracco: This site covered that story. Type “Borenstein” into the search box at the head of this page and you’ll get a dozen or so articles that mention or focus on him.
Tom Fuller (18:48:15) :
look at http://www.lulu.com
they do hard and soft copy books, and they only take 20% of the total after printing costs for themselves.
Tom and Steve:
Check PayLoadz
I have used them from one of my sites with positive results, and you should be able to get an electronic copy online within the hour.
trying to make an order for the hard copy edition, how to get to billing?
1. shopping Cart: complete
2. Shipping: Complete
3. Billing:
options: new address=>create new profile or return to shipping
options: my address as stated under “shipping”=>create new profile or return to shipping
huh?
Mark Bowlin (08:10:20) :
Tokyoboy,
I suspect that it will make it onto Amazon after awhile (after the authors recoup some expenses), but speaking as a self published author myself, Amazon isn’t generous with the people that do the actual work of researching, writing, editing and publishing a book. They take a 55 percent cut of the sales price.
That is standard in low volume publishing. The Amazon cut is lower in higher volumes but they also give bigger discounts.
And you get the advantage of their bigger audience.
Let me add that one of the premier resources for learning about the business of publishing is the American Booksellers Association (ABA).
tallbloke (02:40:41) :
Thanks for your reply:
“Yes. I emailed CTM for assistance after Mark P pointed out my error, because CTM is in frequent contact with the Author of the book.”
That explains a lot. I am still curious, are you also a moderator? I’m not sure because I didn’t see the “mod” signifier on your reply as an addendum to my original comment like some of the mods do. Still learning this system, forbearance requested.
I got baffled at that point too. What I eventually figured out was that there was another option somewhere that allowed me to use my Amazon address, which I assume you have already. Keep flailing around and you’ll find it.
huh?
Standard procedure for the Hockey Team is to discredit anyone who dares to publish anything challenging their papers. Emboldened by Climategate, more and more people will come forward with new revelations and books like Plimer’s “Heaven & Earth” and “The CRUtape Letters” will become “Surprise Best Sellers”. (I borrowed that from the New York Times).
Real scientists like Richard Lindzen (MIT) are starting to speak out. Eventually, the Hockey Team will be overwhelmed…………….
Dang I should have copyrighted the name “Climategate.” Tom and Steve… all ya’ll owe me a beer* 🙂
* NOTE: That stuff in the US from mainstream breweries does not qualify as beer…
Amazon’s selling Climategate: A Meteorologist Exposes the Global Warming Scam (Hardcover)
~ Brian Sussman (Author)
Dear Authors
Dear Antony
I am writing this piece to try to get in touch with the authors (an the publishing house) in order to translate this book into Polish ASAP.
My e-mail address is strzeleccy@neostrada.pl, phone number in Poland +48 (602) 557 398.
I have published on December 2 2009 an article on Climategate in one of he key dailies in Poland (Rzeczpospolita, you can check by googling it) and I have made arrangements with a very friendly publishing house to publish something Climategate and the AGW hoax.
Authors, please reply.
Antony, please put me in touch with the authors.
Moderator, please help me in this effort.
Regards
Jerzy Strzelecki
Dear Authors
Dear Antony
I have already written to the adres thomaswfuller (at ) gmail.com after finding Thomas adress in the comments.
Thomas please answer ASAP. We could have your book published very quickly.
Best Regards
JST
I suggest that the authors, or someone, put together (edit) a collection of 10-20 enlightening essays on Climategate, such as this one: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/climategate_the_truth_hurts_wh.html
I’m sure the essay-authors wouldn’t ask for anything, provided the royalty were donated to WUWT or some similar entity.
Well Brian Sussman, isn’t going to be too happy about this event;
He’s been touting his own book called “Climatgate” for some time now; and evidently it won’t be out till March or April.
Wellas they say; you snooze; you lose.
Good luck with your scoop, Steve and Tom and maybe Chasmod will get a rent adjustment.
“Climategate The Crutape Letters” now showing “in stock” on Amazon.com, but sadly not yet on Amazon.co.uk…
REPLY: Here is the Link for Amazon in the USA to purchase the book
Not available yet on Amazon.ca either. I’ll wait a day or two, until the glitches are ironed out, but this is a must-buy (not just because it’s an important primary history source, but because it’s purchase is for a good cause….. ) Hope there’s pictures!
There’s lots of pictures, graphs, and documents
– Anthony
missed the opportunity for a snappier headline: History in a Harry?
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