UN IPCC chief Pachauri under fire in India for conflicts of interest

From the “follow the money” department, this story has been building momentum ever since the story was made public by Christopher Booker and Dr. Richard North of the EU Referendum who three weeks ago co-wrote a major piece in the Sunday Telegraph. WUWT initially covered the story here on December 21st: Pachauri’s Carbon Choo-Choo off the rails.

The following week the Telegraph had a follow up story, and more questions than answers were raised.

Now it appears the story “has legs”, and is being covered in India by India Today, front and center on their Sunday edition.

The subheadline reads: “Climate change hero was on boards of oil and power PSU’s with large carbon footprints, got crores worth of business for TERI from them

Pachauri of course denies any conflict of interest. Details on TERI (The Energy Research Institute) here

The India Today newspaper writes:

Pachauri’s answer to this charge is: “I haven’t pocketed a penny from my association with companies and institutes,” he said.

“All honoraria I get go to TERI and to its ‘Light A Billion Lives’ campaign for reaching solar power to people without electricity. My dealings are above board.” The climate change hero is quick with his answers, but doubts over his links linger.

Now that this story has legs, we’ll see more investigative journalism coming and those “doubts over his links” will get filled in, one way or another. There are questions now arising as to the legality of some of the dealing TERI has had in Britain and the way it reports its dealings to the Charity Commission.

There’s another interesting twist to this that involves Climategate and the CRU.

Pachauri is one of the two directors of TERI. He is also a trustee, along with Sir John Houghton and Sir Crispin Tickell, (see here) formerly England’s man at the UN and the person who converted Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to a belief in global warming, which led her to allocate the money Houghton needed to set up the HadleyCentre for Climate Change.

As WUWT readers know, Hadley (along with the CRU) has played a key part in the story of climate research (and Climategate) ever since.

We have Al Gore who is viewed by many as being the most influential communicator on the climate change issue who is up to his neck in carbon trading and also has many board associations that help his cause. Now we have the leader of the UN’s IPCC with questionable business associations. Where’s NYT’s Andy Revkin? Where’s 60 Minutes? Where’s Dateline NBC?

Above: Gore and Pachauri get the Nobel Prize.

And here’s the kicker from the Telegraph’s follow up story:

Initially, when Dr Pachauri took over the running of TERI in the 1980s, his interests centred on the oil and coal industries, which may now seem odd for a man who has since become best known for his opposition to fossil fuels. He was, for instance, a director until 2003 of India Oil, the country’s largest commercial enterprise, and until this year remained as a director of the National Thermal Power Generating Corporation, its largest electricity producer.

In 2005, he set up GloriOil, a Texas firm specialising in technology which allows the last remaining reserves to be extracted from oilfields otherwise at the end of their useful life.

However, since Pachauri became a vice-chairman of the IPCC in 1997, TERI has vastly expanded its interest in every kind of renewable or sustainable technology, in many of which the various divisions of the Tata Group have also become heavily involved, such as its project to invest $1.5 billion (£930 million) in vast wind farms.

Next time somebody says “skeptic “x” is connected with big oil”, show them this.

Tiger Woods downfall was external affairs outside of his vow of matrimony. By the same token, Dr. Pachauri is “married” to the IPCC and is apparently conducting “business affairs” that appear to be a conflict of interest outside of his vow of public service. If this isn’t grounds for a divorce from the IPCC, I don’t know what would be.

Follow the money, not the temperature.

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108 thoughts on “UN IPCC chief Pachauri under fire in India for conflicts of interest

  1. Oh my, bring in Al Gore to help him out.

    I wonder how investors in Al Gore’s ‘green investment company’ are thinking of doing about Al Gore these days?

    All these spokesmen are early investors into the planned AGW fraud’s money bonanza.

  2. One might also ask, “Where’s Guardian’s rabid anti-capitalist and climate-change bulldog George Monbiot?”

  3. What is the probability that all of the shady dealings of these “important scientists” will finally wake people up to the grand fraud that is CO2 will kill us all unless we do as we are told?

  4. I’ve read elsewhere that TERI – The Energy Research Institute, was previously call Tata Energy Research Institute, but the name was changed for some reason. Maybe to hide the association with heavy industry. Tata is one of the largest steel manufacturers in the world.

  5. Initially, when Dr Pachauri took over the running of TERI in the 1980s, his interests centred on the oil and coal industries, which may now seem odd for a man who has since become best known for his opposition to fossil fuels.

    Smell rat?

  6. After seeing all the people making money off this AGW belief system, it seems it’s now the lawyers’ who’ll hit the big bucks, as soon as they can get all their clients to quit talking to the media.

  7. Pachauri’s answer to this charge is: “I haven’t pocketed a penny from my association with companies and institutes,” he said.

    and it’s a travesty that he didn’t, maybe he’ll have better luck in mexico city.
    not.

  8. Hopefully, this story will “have legs”. Where are the UK investigative reporters, where are the presenters of BBC flagship news programmes, Paxman, Neal or Marr. Do they have zero editorial control? Why has this become a right vs left political issue? and I am from the Rhondda Valley of coal mining stock. There must be an editor of a MSM outlet brave enough to put his/her head above the parapet. Are Chris Booker, Rich North and Lawson the only ones to put their heads on the line? (and James D.)

  9. @ Joseph in Florida.

    Slim to none as long as governments still see this as a money raising opportunity and the media remains biased to climate change. The truth no longer matters in the western world. I for one will be amazed if these organizations back down on this issue. Too much has already been invested, personally and politically, by all these players. They will perpetuate the lie rather than give up on their money. The whole thing is depressing when you look at the injustice it is causing and nobody wants to talk about justice in this situation.

  10. photon without a higgs
    The Indians are very clever and very moral but, sadly, a very small percent, which is still a large number, are clever and devious. I have many Indian and Asian friends, not acquaintances, who tell me that most of India’s problems come from the corrupt politicians. An active investigative press,however, they may get to the bottom!

  11. Dr Mo (15:24:11) :

    One might also ask, “Where’s Guardian’s rabid anti-capitalist and climate-change bulldog George Monbiot?”

    ——

    Moonbat hasn’t posted on climate science or anything connected since Dec. 21. The silence is deafening. I wonder if he’s decided to pull a John Moore? (refers to the unctious and pompous Canadian radio blowhard who suddenly decided, after years of deriding skeptics as flat-earth deniers, and referring them to the experts at IPCC to prove them wrong, that he really wasn’t that interested in climate science and the whole global warming thing – after Climategate, of course).

  12. “Now that this story has legs, we’ll see more investigative journalism coming and those “doubts over his links” will get filled in, one way or another.”

    I’m hoping you’re right! As far as I’m concerned “investigative journalism” is dead to climate change, the IPCC and the UN in general. One would think that with all the fraud, corruption, double standards and conflicts of interest laying just beneath the surface of this fiasco, MSM reporters would be knocking each other out of the way to get the real story!

  13. The Indians are very clever and very moral but, sadly, a very small percent, which is still a large number, are clever and devious.

    I think that can be said for pretty much every people on the planet. The only fundamentally criminal class is politicians and that also goes for pretty much every people on the planet.

  14. OT but good.

    Cover story of Germany’s weekly news magazine “Focus” tomorrow (www.focus.de): “Will climate catastrophy fail?”
    Balanced article, featuring the sun’s influence, showing everything but a settled science, quoting Hadley like this “2010 may become one of the hottest years because of the awakening sun and El Nino combined.”

    Because of what? I am confused …

  15. Gawd, nice article Anthony.

    This is so true. The top dogs, including Obama, all have interest in the money here. Obama’s are less direct as he only voted on the board which formed the chicago carbon exchange and hung and out with the people on the exhange but we’d have to be pretty slow witted to imagine the resulting money in the pocket is not just as solid.

    Over at the little tiny Air Vent blog, Dr. Leonard Weinstein seems to have discovered very compelling evidence that Google has eliminated over 20 million links to climategate.

    http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/climategate-ii-rewriting-history-google-style/

  16. crosspatch (16:02:44) :

    Oh, no, not hot coals, that is reserved for true men of religion, and they walk on them.
    They might rake him over dry ice.

  17. Comments in MSM papers

    If you read the comments by readers on items in the MSM on Climate Change they are overwhelmingly sceptical of anthropological CC. The ordinary people are NOT fooled. They still have and can exercise common sense. However, it seems that it will take a long time for the politicians, and the MSM to turn on the profiteers in this scam. I am not even sure that the ballot box will help either since politicians of all colours seem to be enthralled by the tax harvest that will be theirs to play with when they are in power.

  18. Dr Mo (15:24:11) :

    One might also ask, “Where’s Guardian’s rabid anti-capitalist and climate-change bulldog George Monbiot?”

    He was last reported in CarbonHagen by BCC’s NOW Show, peddling past “on a bicycle built of his own pomposity and rage.”

  19. Pachuri defines conflict of interest the way crooked lawyers and financiers do:
    “anything that puts money in my pocket is not a conflict at all.”

  20. “jaypan (16:09:35) :

    OT but good.

    Cover story of Germany’s weekly news magazine “Focus” tomorrow (www.focus.de): “Will climate catastrophy fail?””

    Great. That’s some serious traction.

  21. Conflict of interest involves influence that improperly benefits either a personal or corporate interest. Even if P. didn’t earn a dime himself, did his corporate interests stand to benefit? Of course.

  22. IIRC, “TERI” is occationally spelled out as “Tata Energy Research Institute”, but in their HP it is “The Energy Research Institute.”

    Is this to hide something?

  23. The Pachauri fossil fuel connection was mentioned in the ClimateGate emails,
    April 19 and 22, 2002, 2 emails to Phil Jones discussing the nomination of Pachauri. State that he was George Bush’s choice, that Bush had been heavily lobbied by Exxon, that Pachauri was the choice of the fossil fuel industry. That his econ background would be good because CC is much about money these days.

  24. Douglas Field (16:24:44) :

    You are correct. I have noticed a deluge of skepticism by ordinary citizens.
    And, they are learning very quickly, I might add.
    The General Public is not fooled, for they have a secret weapon: They know what’s going on outside thier window.

  25. Some of the companies Dr Pachauri could say that his aim was to help move them to less CO2 emitting technologies. But GloriOil, where he is founder and science advisor, their “mission is delivering state of the art bio-technology solutions to improve and increase recovery from mature oil wells”.

    http://www.glorioil.com/advisors.htm

  26. MORE JUICY PACHAURI STUFF

    RE: Pachauri, apparently there are more juicy revelations that were to have come out in Today’s Sunday Telegraph. However due to the extreme amount of Global Warming falling in the UK, economic activity has ground to a standstill, and advertisers have cut back, resulting in Today’s Sunday Telegraph being rather short on pages. So, the juicy story has been postponed to next week. Make sure to check it out then. Also read this site which has crosslisted WUWT.

    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/on-hold.html

  27. A very big hit for the AGW crowd.

    Before it was just a matter of bad science, now it is pseudoscience in the service of financial and political corruption.

    And it is all happening at a time when people are looking out of their windows asking themselves why does global warming feel so cold.

  28. I’ve found the answer to my own question. In 2003 the former “Tata Energy and Resources Institute” was renamed “The Energy and Resources Institute.”

  29. monbiot did a small item in a pro warmie paper, the flack from commenters was..mostly removed as always! some got by though:-)
    as to Pachauri I have been reading thr eureferendum daily, big expose is due, held up due to…the cold and snows.
    so keep looking in,there and here:-)
    I am Buzzing it madly and annoying everyone I know with the truth, gee some of them really hate it.
    tpp bad! 20 years of lies and hype, vs some months of truth and fact.
    they can learn to think maybe?
    loved the dry ice suggestion above… R bateman R shearer Funny! :-)

  30. Trillions of dollars at stake and the U.S. congress, Obama and Lisa Jackson are still wowed by a Nobel peace prize. Not a science prize but a politically motivated peace prize. The Dr. has lined his pockets while giving access and control to a pseudo religion, he still will retire a wealthy man. Tough luck world, I got mine.

  31. Thanks, Anthony, for the picture of the fraudulent pair with their Nobel Prizes.

    They used anything to make their “science” look legitimate, including NASA and even the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee.

    Those that predicted global warming deserve the “hot seat”.

    With kind regards,
    Oliver K. Manuel

  32. It wll be of much interest to set up a poll as to whether the IPCC’s Fifth Assessment Report will come out in due course. Let me bet against.

  33. Caught red-handed.

    But just one in a line of folks playing both ends against the middle.

    Could be a domino-effect coming down the train tracks.

    Oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth has just begun…

  34. India’s onto him, “Pachauri in a spot as climategate hits TERI – Ajmer Singh, New Delhi, January 10, 2010

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/78466/India/Pachauri+in+a+spot+as+climategate+hits+TERI.html

    It seems that, apart from his ability to prevaricate, Pachauri is also quite a talented businessman, as well. What a shame he’s such a con-man.

    Mark Steyn puts his hypocrisy in perspective, “Dr Rajendra Pachauri flew at least 443,243 miles on IPCC business in …[a]… 19 month period.”

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2JiNGY1MzllMTc4YWFlMzJkMTk4NDk4YjY2OWZiZDg=

    (Which is the equivalent of flying around the world almost once a month for EACH of those 19 months) — hmmm, maybe he’s not a con-man. Maybe he’s just so jet lagged, he can’t think straight?

  35. I presume that Pachauri has received a substantial amount from federal grants and subsidies that were diverted for personal gain. If so, he along with Al Gore and the American Climategate fraudsters may be vulnerable to citizens suits under the US False Claims Act. Anyone who brings a successful suit to recapture misuse funds can be awarded a bounty in the form of the costs of the suit including reasonable attorneys fees.

    Bring it on!!!!

  36. There is more to come. Richard North of EUreferendum was to have had another article published in today’s Sunday Times. However, due to the present snow and cold in the UK, it is delayed until next week. Apparently, it is quite a scoop.

  37. The ever so honourable Dr Pachauri

    To me this link (below) sums up this Pachauri, ‘person’ perfectly. It also sums up the EU and Prime Minister Brown as well. God help democracy when these ‘burkes’ are in control.

    ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiVXHcF2RNM

  38. Whats funny is that the IPCC and the CAGW crowds ties to Big Oil were never really hidden. First look at CRU it was founded during the Ice Age scare of the 1970’s by two Big Oil companies (Shell and BP) and the last I looked that hadn’t been removed from their Wikipedia page (yet):

    Initial sponsors included British Petroleum, the Nuffield Foundation and Royal Dutch Shell.[5] The Rockefeller Foundation was another early benefactor, and the Wolfson Foundation gave the Unit its current building in 1986.[4]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit

    Then you look at what two agencies founded the IPCC the WMO and UNEP. From there look at who founded the UNEP:

    During December 1972, the UN General Assembly unanimously elected Maurice Strong to head UNEP. Also Secretary General of both the 1972 United Nations Conference on the Human Environment, which launched the world environment movement, and the 1992 Earth Summit, Strong has played a critical role is globalizing the environmental movement.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Environment_Programme

    Where did Strong get his start:

    Born in Oak Lake, Manitoba, Strong had his start as a petroleum entrepreneur and became president of Power Corporation until 1966. In the early 1970s he was Secretary-General of the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment and then became the first Executive Director of the United Nations Environment Programme. He returned to Canada to become Chief Executive Officer of Petro-Canada from 1976 to 1978.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Strong

    Now we know that no UN official would use the UN to make money now would he…..OOPS:

    In 2005, during investigations into the U.N.’s Oil-for-Food Programme, evidence procured by federal investigators and the U.N.-authorized inquiry of Paul Volcker showed that in 1997, while working for Annan, Strong had endorsed a check for $988,885, made out to “Mr. M. Strong,” issued by a Jordanian bank. It was reported that the check was hand-delivered to Mr. Strong by a South Korean businessman, Tongsun Park, who in 2006 was convicted in New York federal court of conspiring to bribe U.N. officials to rig Oil-for-Food in favor of Saddam Hussein. During the inquiry, Strong stepped down from his U.N. post, stating that he would “sideline himself until the cloud was removed”. Since then Strong has not returned to his native Canada, and now lives in Beijing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Strong

    So lets see you have a UN backed IPCC that is led by a man with extensive ties to Big Oil, the UN group backing the IPCC was founded by a man that has extensive ties to Big OIl and is tied to a UN scandal over Oil and they rely on data from a research unit that was founded by Big Oil and funded by Big Oil. Those people have the gall to accuse people like me that are sceptical of the crap they spoon fed me to be “shilling” for Big Oil? Riiiiigggghhhhtt.

    And the icing on the cake is that when Pachauri was first being pushed to the top spot at the IPCC Tom Wigley and Phil Jones was after his guts because he was being pushed by GW Bush who after all has ties to Big Oil, but somehow in the passing years he has no problem with now.

    Phil,
    I can’t quite see what all the fuss is about Watson – why should he be re-nominated anyway? Why should not an Indian scientist chair IPCC? One could argue the CC issue is more important for the South than for the North. Watson has perhaps thrown his weight about too much in the past. The science is well covered by Susan Solomon in WGI, so why not get an engineer/economist since many of the issues now raised by CC are more to do with energy and money, than natural science.

    If the issue is that Exxon have lobbied and pressured Bush, then OK, this is regrettable but to be honest is anyone really surprised? All these decisions about IPCC chairs and co-chairs are deeply political (witness DEFRA’s support of Martin Parry for getting the WGII nomination).

    http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=270&filename=1019513684.txt

    see all the stuff linked to at the bottom of the email

  39. They cannot say the fossil fuel industry picked Patchy to help them be kinder to the planet. He is not an atmospheric scientist anyway. The emails clearly state Patchy was the choice of George Bush. Bush is daily noted as an evil obstacle to the CC industry and every other issue of the left. Bush cannot be blamed for everything one day and turn around and be considered a saint working behind the scenes now when it’s convenient. The emails also mention reports of lobbying for Patchy by Saudi Arabia. The Saudis were bad when Bush was in office. Did they all of a sudden become good? No.

  40. Just surprised that it has taken this long for the light to come on.

    Even a quick glance at the companies and names involved in all aspects of the great carbon swindle from NGO’s and “consultants” to “big oil” and the alarm bells should have gone off a long time ago.

    The carbon swindle is set to go into the trillions and while we all know where those trillions are coming from nobody will be able to tell you where they end up. All quickly passed from one “scheme” to another in such a way that even the most determined accountant will loose track.

    People often talk about a “carbon tax”. What carbon tax? Tell me the rate of carbon tax. 5%? 20%? Nobody could or would give you an actual figure. All you know for sure is that money disappears from your wallet and Gaia doesn’t have a bank account.

    Hundreds of billions, possibly trillions have been stolen already and not one single ppm change in atmospheric CO2. Even if you are a committed AGW believer you must be at least starting to have doubts about carbon trading and those involved. Even a useful idiot like Moonbat must wonder at times about what he is helping create.

  41. Anthony, great reporting. Commenters, fantastic additional info. I am looking forward to the day when the pair in the photo serve jail time together — Nobel Prize winners Gore and Paxhouri should get the same cell, shouldn’t they. That is the respect they deserve along with a life sentence for THE FRAUD OF THE CENTURY — or how many centuries back. This is pretty maximum!

  42. At the core of climatology, from its very beginning was to try and predict furure episodes or periods of bad weather; I don’t remember ever participating in a study with the goal of anticipating the timing of a spring picnic.

    Too many of us have got in the way of these peoples’ enjoyment of gloom.

  43. Gore and Pachauri get the Nobel Prize. (picture above)

    from nobelprizes.com:
    “2007
    The prize goes to:

    INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE (IPCC) and ALBERT ARNOLD ( AL) GORE JR. for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change. ”
    ====
    i was always skeptical about AGW, just a natural skeptic i guess.
    could the above also say “for their efforts to hype and spread fear about man-made climate change, and to lay the financial foundations for measures that are needed/profitable to counteract such/if any change.”

    they both got the nobel?? it’s worse than I thought.

  44. In 2005, he set up GloriOil, a Texas firm specialising in technology which allows the last remaining reserves to be extracted from oilfields otherwise at the end of their useful life.

    Let me guess.. the “technology” involves pumping CO2 into one end of the field while Oil comes out the other. Getting paid for both CO2 sequestration under some UN scheme and by the market for all those extra barrels of Oil?

    Nice work if you can get it.

  45. “Hundreds of billions, possibly trillions have been stolen already and not one single ppm change in atmospheric CO2.”

    Absolutely agree. Here in Maryland, they have their own version of ‘cap and trade’ whereby they take a dollar fifty from every citizen’s pocket via his electricity bill. And to think, they forced the Baltimore Mayor to resign, because she embezzled Best Buy gift cards worth about ~600 dollars !!!

    More on-topic, India Today is bang-in-the-middle mainstream media with a nationwide reach. I’m sure its going to look pretty ugly when this article turns up in the hands of Pachauri fans.

  46. Mal (16:51:36) :

    “Some of the companies Dr Pachauri could say that his aim was to help move them to less CO2 emitting technologies. But GloriOil, where he is founder and science advisor, their “mission is delivering state of the art bio-technology solutions to improve and increase recovery from mature oil wells”

    -As in Co2 injection perhaps?

  47. “3×2 (18:06:50) :
    [...]
    Let me guess.. the “technology” involves pumping CO2 into one end of the field while Oil comes out the other. Getting paid for both CO2 sequestration under some UN scheme and by the market for all those extra barrels of Oil?

    Nice work if you can get it.”

    CO2 is 6 euro a kg. I don’t think that Pachauri wouldn’t let such a valuable industry gas go to waste.

    Here’s Pachauri on the GloriOil board:

    http://www.glorioil.com/advisors.htm

  48. Susann of “The Policy lass” -er- sorry, Lass (“Shewonk”) needs to know about this …

    Thinks ALL skeptics are on the payroll of big oil.
    .
    .


  49. boballab (17:46:25) :

    because he was being pushed by GW Bush who after all has ties to Big Oil,

    Don’t forget his even BIGGER connection to Big Baseball (he was managing partner for the Texas Rangers; actively on-property every day, never missed a day while he was managing )

    .
    .

  50. When the historic bestseller “The Rise and Fall of the Western World” is writen in a year or two, the question will no doubt arise: Who was responsible for the fall of the West? I’d like to propose an answer: Joe Sixpack, Jane Doe, John Smith, and about three billion or more people in Europe, the South and Western Pacific, North and South America, the Far East (excluding China), South Asia (including India), and several hundred million Russians and West Asians. I doubt that Al Gore and Pachauri will even get an honorable mention or footnote. Lesson? Don’t trust politicians, “scientists”, or media types any further than you can throw them with both arms tied behind your back.

  51. u.k.(us) (15:37:26) : Pachauri’s answer to this charge is: “I haven’t pocketed a penny from my association with companies and institutes,” he said.

    Thats true. He doesnt deal in pennies.

  52. boballab (17:46:25) :

    I think that this post is worth treating as a full discussion. It opens up on the real principal of AGW, Maurice Strong whom it seems, is not averse to making a “profit”, works hand in hand (bag in bag?) with “Big Energy” (Big Oil is old hat), yet is also a watermelon of the worst variety – a stereotypical “pious hypocrite”.

    The world has been mann-ipulated – strong-armed into (very profitable for some) belief in mann-made GW with gory effect.

  53. Pascvaks (19:28:23) :

    “Lesson? Don’t trust politicians, “scientists”, or media types any further than you can throw them with both arms tied behind your back”

    True
    Chuck in the bankers with this lot too.
    They are all embroiled in this tawdry affair but my concern is how can this be reversed?
    We (the ordinary people) just seem to be the ‘patsies’ who get serially ripped off by the aforementioned. – Think Enron, Sub Prime, Quantative Easing – it never stops. But this one is the ‘daddy of them all’

    I am loath to talk about ‘conspiracy’ because it sounds like the ravings of a demented paranoid but it seems increasingly like it to me. The greenies? The scientists at EAU CRU – well they were easily bought it seems. Both of these groups seem to be pawns in this. All they have done is provide a suitable ‘religion’ and a catechism to gather the masses for the politicians to ‘lead’.

    Well if patient people are forced to wait too long, they might be constrained to take desparate action.

  54. MichaelL (20:07:04) :
    boballab (17:46:25) :

    I agree. It is the story behind the stories.
    Could be called “The mother of all those stories”.
    And, again, show it to all the greenies who protest against AGW and big oil/energy and find themselves on the same side of the battlefield … uchh.
    AGW is still supposed to become somebody’s new cashcow.
    Hopefully too late now.

  55. vigilantfish (15:52:22) :
    Dr Mo (15:24:11) :

    One might also ask, “Where’s Guardian’s rabid anti-capitalist and climate-change bulldog George Monbiot?”

    “Moonbat hasn’t posted on climate science or anything connected since Dec. 21. The silence is deafening. I wonder if he’s decided to pull a John Moore”?

    Be fair to him guys. After the release of the emails he did appear shocked to the core and “promised” in print to be a better journalist.

    IF he has worked out that he has been had, (and there is no doubt of that) give him a little time to for his ego to deflate and let us welcome him to the dark side, after all, giving up on religion ain’t easy!!!

  56. Jeff Id (16:10:29) :

    Over at the little tiny Air Vent blog, Dr. Leonard Weinstein seems to have discovered very compelling evidence that Google has eliminated over 20 million links to climategate.

    http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/climategate-ii-rewriting-history-google-style/

    Compelling? How about some hard data? There’s no 20,000,000 climategate stories. On Nov 28 there were only 718 links even though Google then claimed there were more than 10,000,000. See

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/climategate-surpasses-global-warming-on-google-autosuggest-still-blocked/#comment-239153

    On Nov 28 I could have gathered all 718 links. All that Dr. Leonard Weinstein has found is that Google’s count is now 20,000,000 closer to reality.

    More at http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/2523/#comment-17701

  57. Oops, should have checked out the Guardian before posting (6th Jan )!!! He is blathering on again this morning and note, as usual the “This comment has been removed by a moderator. Replies may also be deleted” is in effect!

  58. Moonbat was still making the rounds promoting his book in Canada in November and December 2009, writing articles and doing interviews. He is probably just figuring out a way to get the spin back on the ball.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/nov/30/canada-tar-sands-copenhagen-climate-deal

    Go to Munk debate, December 21, 2009

    http://www.learnoutloud.com/Catalog/Social-Sciences/Current-Events/CBCs-The-Best-of-Ideas-Podcast/18754#

    He did a number of interviews on CBC. I don’t know if he bought carbon credits to get over here but he admitted he broke his promise not to fly due to aircraft CO2 emissions – so where does that leave his ethical position? Apparently he came over here to Canada to make us see the error of our carbon producing ways and schill his book to make a few bucks while he was at it. Since this was at the same time as Climategate, maybe he figured “What the heck … better get people to buy my book before they find out what is going on …. and take the stipend I have been offered for the CBC interviews. ” “CBC being the Canadian equivalent of the BBC with the same leftist agenda – though I listen to it a lot as it provides a lot of decent news coverage if you ignore all the leftist adjectives and verbage. The CBC bias is so blatant that it is actually pretty easy to tune it out.

    – An Albertan, sitting in front of my sequestered carbon oxidizing masonary heating appliance.

  59. From what I have been reading it looks like big oil is sponsoring the AGW crowd. Either that or someone is pocketing my share.

  60. Christopher Booker in The Daily Telegraph 26 December 2009

    Similarly it is Tata which next month is to close down its Corus steel works at Redcar, to make a potential £600 million in “credits” from the carbon emissions this will save, while in India it will earn a similar amount in UN CDM “credits” by building a plant of similar capacity in Orissa. It will thus make a potential gain of £1.2 billion, at the expense of 1,700 jobs on Teesside, for no overall reduction in the amount of CO2 emitted to the atmosphere.

    £1.2 billion subsidy for outsourcing steel production to India from UK. Setting up TERI was a good idea, the Tata management are pretty sharp.

  61. The article said:
    > Next time somebody says “skeptic “x” is connected with big oil,”
    > show them this [article].

    Oh, yeah!
    The “Big Oil” blurt is the first chirp used to ad hominem attack anyone who speaks against the orthodoxy of the Universal Church of Climate Change nee Global Warming.
    The reality is that most of the skeptics–the natural state of REAL SCIENTISTS–are not connected to Big Oil, but as we are finding out, many of the AGW/GW crowd are either bedded-down with Big Oil, or are intimately attached to Big Oil’s carbon trading apparatus.
    This tactic is straight from Saul Alinsky’s book. Accuse your opponents–vociferously and continuously–of your biggest potential problem. By the time anyone accuses you of it, you’ll have the guilt of your opponents–that you promulgated–to shield you from the blame.
    The “climate-Scientologists” have duped the press into accepting the broad-brush painting of skeptical scientists as “in the pocket of big oil,” when it is a lie. Then as it comes out that Pachauri and Gore–and Gore’s daddy, too–are so deep into Big Oil’s pocket that they are underground in the pocket-lint farms, that they can’t see the wintry light of day.
    So, the AGW/GW crowd will again project their guilt onto the innocent, and sadly, the [adjectives have failed me] “main stream” press will attempt to “make it so” for Pachuri, et al.
    How long before J. Q. Public realizes that the “mainstream press” are only in the main stream of the global sewer? I hope it is soon! I hope that Abraham Lincoln was right, that they cannot fool all the people all the time.
    Newt Love (my real name) newtlove.com
    Aerospace Technical Fellow of Modeling Simulation and Analysis

  62. Dr Mo (15:24:11) :
    One might also ask, “Where’s Guardian’s rabid anti-capitalist and climate-change bulldog George Monbiot?”

    …He’s busy with his “weather isn’t climate” line to brainwash people that global warming “climate change” is really the cause of our biggest freeze for 100 years.

    ———————————————

    ” Dr.T G Watkins(Wales) (15:38:05) :
    Where are the UK investigative reporters, where are the presenters of BBC flagship news programmes, Paxman, Neal or Marr…. There must be an editor of a MSM outlet brave enough to put his/her head above the parapet. Are Chris Booker, Rich North and Lawson the only ones to put their heads on the line? (and James D.)”

    …Actually, no. I posted detailed breakdowns of Lord Stern and Pachauri’s interlocking financial and business interests last year in the Telegraph and they were both deleted. As for the BBC, what do you expect? Yesterday they went out of their way to say the big freeze does not refute so-called “global warming”, and they will continue with this line until the roof of Broadcasting House collapses under the weight of an advancing glacier, hopefully with them all stuck inside it.

  63. “Pachauri is one of the two directors of TERI. He is also a trustee, along with Sir John Houghton and Sir Crispin Tickell, .”

    Not TERI in this case but TERI Europe – related but different legal entities. It’s a tangled web but accuracy is important! The link goes to the right place but the text should be precise IMO.

  64. Those are Nobel Prizes? The pictures look like something made by a 3rd grader…

    boballab (17:46:25) : I think that this post is worth treating as a full discussion. It opens up on the real principal of AGW, Maurice Strong whom it seems, is not averse to making a “profit”, works hand in hand (bag in bag?) with “Big Energy”

    He also lives in China (who get a “pass” on AGW costs and may even get subsidy) while investing there. Oh, and Soros made his biggest “killing” by betting against the British Pound. I’d love to see his trade book and see if he is betting “long China short U.S. Dollar and UK Pound” while stacking the deck…

  65. Nigel S (23:54:59) :
    Christopher Booker in The Daily Telegraph 26 December 2009

    Similarly it is Tata which next month is to close down its Corus steel works at Redcar, to make a potential £600 million in “credits” from the carbon emissions this will save, while in India it will earn a similar amount in UN CDM “credits” by building a plant of similar capacity in Orissa. It will thus make a potential gain of £1.2 billion, at the expense of 1,700 jobs on Teesside, for no overall reduction in the amount of CO2 emitted to the atmosphere.

    The steel industry has been painful to any British person who has any semblance of national pride. That’s at least 50% of the people. This has the potential to be far more damaging to climate change activism than anything else so far. You don’t rub salt into the wounds of people in their feelings for their fellow working class families who have suffered for decades during the decline of steel in this country. High finance bubbles have burst. People want to know that we are still productive. Whole communities have been eroded by the decline of steel. The greens have been trying to appeal to the working man by promising more “green jobs”. Well, there’s your green jobs mate, now get on yer bike and peddle off to India. This story is huge.

  66. Stefan,

    “The greens have been trying to appeal to the working man by promising more “green jobs”.

    And the Trades Unions have indeed bought into the con. They are applauding the prospect of all these green jobs springing up to service the impending wind industry. Probably, most of these jobs will go overseas – to France and Germany, who are much more skilled at rigging the markets – but I’m sure they will remain grateful for the crumbs that fall from the table.

    Meanwhile they will be scratching their heads trying to understand why manufacturing jobs start to disappear at rates of 2 or 3 times those created in the green sector. Well, look to Spain for the answer.

    Actually, the reason is pretty basic economics. If you divert labour and capital from the productive sectors of the economy and force them by government dictat into unproductive work, the output of the whole of society is lowered. Lowered output equates to lowered wealth. But still these morons won’t get it.

  67. Norsk: Bukken Til Havresekken.
    English: Like A Bee To Honey.

    Is this the correct translation of the Norwegain proverb?

    :-)

  68. Where’s Andy Revkin? He’s here:

    As we know, Andy is leaving……

    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/my-second-half/

    “I’m taking a position as senior fellow for environmental understanding at Pace University, situated in the school’s young Academy for Applied Environmental Studies. There’s more background on my plans in the Columbia Journalism Review, the Yale Forum on Climate Change and the Media and CEJournal.

    I’ll also be working on two books, one for middle school kids on resilience to disasters and another, for adults, on ways to navigate the next 50 years with the fewest regrets.

    Finally…I want to help build networks of journalists and communicators in rich and poor places so that good ideas can be efficiently shared and flawed ones modified. The Earth Journalism Network is one example. Developing Radio Partners is another. When writing my book on the Amazon, I learned about the power of radio (which was an organizing tool for the rubber tappers seeking to gain land rights). But this potential goes way beyond radio. What happens to all those “ one laptop per child” machines? Are they simply dropped off, or are the recipients cultivated as a network?”

    http://www.earthjournalism.org/

    Internews Network developed the Earth Journalism Network (EJN) to empower and enable journalists from developing countries to cover the environment more effectively. EJN will establish networks of environmental journalists in countries where they don’t exist, and build their capacity where they do, through training workshops, support for production and distribution, and dispersing small grants.

    http://www.pace.edu/page.cfm?doc_id=14128&frame=news/read.cfm?id=866

    “We are extremely pleased that Andy Revkin is joining what we believe is one of the strongest university environmental programs in the nation,” said Geoffrey Bracket Brackett, DPhil (Oxon.), the University’s Provost and Executive Vice President for Academic Affairs. “His intellectual expertise and ethical balance will make enormous contributions to helping the Pace Academy in its aim to be a global resource for policy development.”

    Pace awarded Revkin an honorary doctorate in 2007.

    Green expertise. Over the years Pace has become well known for environmental education. The Pace Law School’s environmental program is consistently ranked among the top three in the US. The law school’s Environmental Legal Clinic, co led by Professors Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Karl Coplan, trains environmental lawyers who, while still students, have set national precedents in a number of cases involving the Hudson River. This fall Pace Law launched the first curriculum in the nation entirely dedicated to climate change, offered within the school’s Masters of Environmental Law (LLM) program.

    He is starting what will be his third book for adults, about the interlinked issues of sustainability and population, and finishing the second of two books for children on environmental issues. The first has the ironic title “The North Pole Was Here.”

    This is what Revkin is promoting

    http://www.internews.org/

    Climate Leaders Honor Reporters at Internews Earth Journalism Awards

    Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr. Rajendra K. Pachauri and Internews celebrated the best in climate change reporting at the Internews Earth Journalism Awards in Copenhagen. Among the presenters were key figures on climate and environmental issues, including Mary Robinson, the former President of Ireland; Marina Silva, the former environment minister of Brazil; and award-winning Chinese movie star Li Bingbing, who is also the Global Ambassador for WWF’s Earth Hour.

    “If we are to have any hope of reversing the effects of climate change, then we have a monumental task of educating the six billion people on our planet about how climate change works and what they can do to help,” Dr. Pachauri said. “The media is critical in this effort, since just one reporter has the ability to reach thousands, even millions, of people. These awards help to expand and honour these vitally important efforts.”

    http://www.internews.org/articles/2009/20090316_scidevnet_ejn.shtm

    Climate change: How to report the story of the century

    Use different sources. Too often, journalists only report what they hear from government officials speaking at conferences. Scientists are also excellent sources — they generally share your pursuit of the truth. But try to explain what they’re saying in everyday terms.

    Andy has certainly followed these guidelines especially on asking climatologists for their views. As shown in the CRU e-mails, he often reported to base before writing his column, here are a couple of examples,
    ——————————————————————————–

    http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=492&filename=1107899057.txt

    At 02:14 PM 2/4/2005, Andy Revkin wrote:

    Hi all,
    There is a fascinating paper coming in Nature next week (Moberg of Stockholm Univ., et al) that uses mix of sediment and tree ring data to get a new view of last 2,000 years. Very warped hockeystick shaft (centuries-scale variability very large) but still pronounced ‘unusual’ 1990’s blade.

    i’d like your reaction/thoughts for story i’ll write for next Thursday’s Times. also, is there anything about the GRL paper forthcoming from Mc & Mc that warrants a response?

    I can send you the Nature paper as pdf if you agree not to redistribute it (you know the embargo rules). that ok? thanks for getting in touch!

    andy

    Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:52:53 -0500
    To: Andy Revkin
    From: “Michael E. Mann”
    Subject: Re: FW: “hockey stock” methodology misleading
    Hi Andy,
    The McIntyre and McKitrick paper is pure scientific fraud. I think you’ll find this reinforced by just about any legitimate scientist in our field you discuss this with. Please see the RealClimate response:
    [1]http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=111
    and also: [2]http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=114
    The Moberg et al paper is at least real science. But there are some real problems with it (you’ll want to followup w/ people like Phil Jones for a 2nd opinion).

    To recap, I hope you don’t mention MM at all. It really doesn’t deserve any additional publicity. Moberg et al is more deserving of discussion, but, as outlined above, there are some real problems w/ it. I have reason to believe that Nature’s own commentary by Schiermeier will actually be somewhat critical of it.
    ——————————————————————————–

    http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=593&filename=1133366680.txt

    Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:14:45 -0500
    To: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
    From: Andy Revkin
    Subject: u seen?

    purely fyi.. u seen?

    Quaternary Science Reviews, Volume 24, Issues 20-21 , November 2005,
    Pages 2164-2166

    http://tinyurl.com/b95ee

    Climate: past ranges and future changes
    Jan Esper a), Robert J.S. Wilson b), David C. Frank a), Anders
    Moberg c), Heinz Wanner d) and J

    andy

    From: “Michael E. Mann” <mann@
    To: Tim Osborn <t.osborn@
    Subject: Re: [Fwd: u seen?]
    Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:04:40 -0500
    Reply-to: mann@
    Cc: Phil Jones <p.jones@
    Keith Briffa <k.briffa@

    The real problem is the fairly inflammatory wording of this, and the really flawed interpretations w.r.t. implicatinos for natural vs. anthropogenic variaiblity.

    normally I'd ignore, but the fact that Andy Revkin received this suggests they are trying to publicize this review paper, which I find a bit odd…

    mike

  69. His (R. Pach.) flying around is just to prove his point, that exhaust and contrails are affecting climate, -so there, now do you see? he says, with a smirky grin.

  70. That’s the problem with living in Auatralia, when I finally get on line all the fun stuff has been said. So all I can say is dtto to all the above.
    The man is a fraud.

    Ian
    Canberra

  71. “Douglas Field (16:04:37) :

    Don W
    MSM reporters? Don’t make me laugh! They have long been emasculated.”

    Even if they did write the story the OWNERS of the press will pull it as the owner of a New York magazine did to John Munsell’s story of Conagri e-coli contaminated beef killing a woman. The USDA and his Congressman were aware of the problem months before the death, did nothing and covered it up. As usual there was a “Congressional Investigation” and the cause, HACCP, is specifically protected from any changes by Congressman Waxman’s food fraud bill.

    The politicians and the MSM are run by billionaires who are intent on fleecing the sheep (us) no matter what.

  72. Has anyone out there made similar enquiries about the previous histories and current business interests of members of the UK’s Commission for Climate Change?

    I think you’ll find that the CCC can in effect direct UK government policy in this area. So they couldn’t possibly be allowed to make recommendations that could benefit former employers/colleagues or enterprises in which they still have interests, could they…?

  73. Imagine that there are wealthy and powerful people in the world who actually control most of the world’s governments. Imagine that those people control those governments to suit their own interests. Imagine that they could get congress to give $700 billion to the crooked bankers who caused our current financial mess. Imagine that they could get the US congress and other governments to pass cap and trade laws from which the powerful will personally benefit. Imagine that they control the MSM which is why they rarely publish articles critical of AGW. Imagine that they control the committee that nominates Nobel candidates. Imagine that they could convince the uninformed masses that the world is in grave danger of overheating while we are in fact freezing our butts off. Now stop imagining. It’s all really happening. Our government and others around the world are corrupt to the core.

  74. This is very promising. Having spent a lot of time in India, I can tell you how much the press there generally eats up the GW alarmism, jumping on the bandwagon for “green” sponsorships themselves and touting AGW as a fact, and proud that an Indian is heading up the IPCC.

    However, what has happened is what I was hoping to count on– that world-famous built-in “skepticism” and cynicism that Indians have (it’s a good quality to have). Finally.

    The conflicts of interest are SO glaring and built-in, it’s impossible to ignore. Was beginning to worry. This guy needs to be shown for what he is.

  75. E.M.Smith (03:00:20) :

    I don’t know if Soros is into the currency market but he is very heavily into Oil.

    His single biggest investment is PetroBra (combined common and preferred stock) the Brazilian Oil company that the US gave 2 Billion in loans to for exploration but he also has big stakes in Hess and other oil based stoks:

    http://www.stockpickr.com/port/George-Soros/

    But it gets even better: At the height of Climategate and the run up to COP15 Soros makes a move on a Canadian Oil Sands company.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B24ZV20091203

    Hmm doesn’t look like he believes that Oil is dead.

  76. David Segesta (07:53:48) :

    I wouldn’t put it as being corrupt. They are employed and appointed by these people. The biggest con though is they present us with “choice” come election time; most folks are out there rooting for “their” candidate, meanwhile the guy/gal is already on the shortlist back at company HQ. If they don’t play ball or deliver the company manifesto there is a waiting list of others ready to step in.

  77. David Segesta (07:53:48) :
    ‘Imagine that there are wealthy and powerful people in the world who actually control most of the world’s governments. ——- Now stop imagining. It’s all really happening. Our government and others around the world are corrupt to the core.’

    You got it in one Dave. But there is a groundswell of people who have also ‘got it’. It still begs the question of how many does it need and how much does it take before there is enough to clean this cancer out.

  78. David Segesta (07:53:48) :
    ‘Imagine that there are wealthy and powerful people in the world who actually control most of the world’s governments. ——- Now stop imagining. It’s all really happening. Our government and others around the world are corrupt to the core

    It’s the age old story of Greed and Fear. The greedies have harnessed the fear generated by the new ‘religion’ of the greens. They have converted this into a means of creating wealth for themselves. Their cynicism is boundless. The only weapon that is effective against the greedies is fear. What is needed is determining what the greedies fear the most then finding a means of instilling this fear into the greedies.

  79. Oliver K. Manuel (17:24:35) :Could we be doubtful of former Nobel Prizes too?…At least some of them were rather suspicious or given to non tested theories..
    Science and politics need a re-check.

  80. It’s the age old story of Greed and Fear.

    Once the church commanded this paradigm and transgressors roasted in hell. Well with the new religion you roast on earth. Rather more effective as it’s closer to home. We seem to have got rid of God but replaced him with Mother Earth.

    Take me back to the ‘dark ages’

  81. What it is all about, once more!, is to make money out of nothing, the marvelous craft through which the “empty is poured into the void”, like the creation of “plastic money” not too many years ago. (Those of us who are “young enough” remember this magic feat).☺

  82. Douglas Field (10:06:40) :

    It’s the age old story of Greed and Fear.

    ….Take me back to the ‘dark ages’

    I would prefer the Medieval Warm Period, that of the fairy tales…

  83. Quote: JonesII (10:05:28) :

    Oliver K. Manuel (17:24:35): “Could we be doubtful of former Nobel Prizes too?…At least some of them were rather suspicious or given to non tested theories… ”

    Yes I could nominate one, but I will not stoop to that level.

    As a very wise man once taught,
    “Hatred does not cease by hatred in this world,
    By love alone it ceases.
    This is an unalterable law.”

    I only hope that we can clean up this sordid mess so future generations of scientists can do honest science and not have to prostitute themselves to get research funds.

    For the past 50 years an unholy alliance of scientists and politicians have shielded the Standard Solar Model against all opposing experimental data and are still trying to ignore the main source of solar energy, solar neutrinos, and solar-wind hydrogen – neutron repulsion.

    With kind regards,
    Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA PI for Apollo

  84. questing vole (07:50:10) :

    Has anyone out there made similar enquiries about the previous histories and current business interests of members of the UK’s Commission for Climate Change?

    I think you’ll find that the CCC can in effect direct UK government policy in this area. So they couldn’t possibly be allowed to make recommendations that could benefit former employers/colleagues or enterprises in which they still have interests, could they…?

    The Reg did a piece some time ago on the CCC.

    Even better work if you can get it!

    Back then though it was only the Reg IIRC who thought it worth a story. Perhaps now some of the MSM might take it up because nothing much has changed.

  85. I love this:

    “As a vegetarian Hindu, Dr Pachauri repeated his call for the world to eat less meat to cut down on methane emissions (as usual he made no mention of what was to be done about India’s 400 million sacred cows). “

  86. Hi,
    Seeing some one write “Mann-ipulation” here woke me up. After watching Al Gore’s terrible film & then the Channel 4 film, I decided that the hockey stick graph was created by Mann-ipulation of an Al-Gore-ithm.

    It’s nice of GW to keep us cool with all that snow ;-)

    RWK
    Belgium

  87. Since coal is the largest contributor of co2 by unit of energy produced, is it nor more likely that the oil industry is promoting AGW? If a tax is introduced on CO2 then coal will be affected the most. This will make oil and gas more competitive as compared to coal for base-line power generation, effectively increasing demand worldwide for oil and increasing the price of oil.

    Coal remains the most plentiful, low cost fuel source on earth to industrialize the third world and end global poverty. However, common sense solutions do not always yield common sense results. My grade 5 teacher posed an interesting question: What happens if you feed the starving millions? You end up with starving billions. Raising the price of CO2 will not eliminate CO2, but it will make the oil industry very wealthy.

  88. No wonder Bush recommended this guy! If he was willing to lie before the courts, why would he tell the truth now before the press?

    http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/290167/

    Old World Hospitality Pvt. Ltd. vs India Habitat Centre on 23/8/1996

    (144) In the light of these facts I have no hesitation in coming to the
    conclusion that these three Officers Mr. Bhatnagar, Mr. Pachauri and Mr. Dinesh
    Mehta have suppressed material facts and they have sworn to false affidavits.

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