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	<title>Comments on: Lord Monckton barred from Copenhagen conference &#8211; pushed to the ground by security</title>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wizzpizz - I&#039;m sure they&#039;d have been delighted to nab Mugabe!  Unfortunately, he has &quot;Diplomatic Immunity&quot;!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wizzpizz &#8211; I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d have been delighted to nab Mugabe!  Unfortunately, he has &#8220;Diplomatic Immunity&#8221;!!</p>
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		<title>By: wizzpizz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mugabe! and people giving him a round of applause? omg isn&#039;t he a crook, why doesn&#039;t america remove him? isn&#039;t he a human rights abuser on a massive scale? 
shame on them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mugabe! and people giving him a round of applause? omg isn&#8217;t he a crook, why doesn&#8217;t america remove him? isn&#8217;t he a human rights abuser on a massive scale?<br />
shame on them</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny56</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny56]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To you Mychele (17:58:09) :
Your words:

the use of the word “trick” is well-established in scientific 

literature, especially where mathematics and statistics are 

concerned.&quot;

Please, then tell me , in math, what trick is used in 2+2=4 ?
Please tell me what math tricks were used with the 1st 

landing on the moon ?  Were their primitive computers loaded
with &quot;tricks&quot; to guide them to the Sea of Tranquility ?
PRESICELY WHERE they were supposed to land ?

a TRICK is A TRICK !  Fudge factors are sometimes necessary
to make up for lack of data on a continuing trend.
But it&#039;s more than apparent that tricks and fudge factors
were grossly misused in all this climate data hoax.
The leaked emails attest to that.  Face it. The lid has blown 

off of the scam ! Analasis of the parts of the code that were 

leaked show HARD numbers where DATA should be to skew the 

results in a favorable way. PHONEY OUTCOME !
NOT REASONABLY DEBATABLE !  GARBAGE.
PLUS... the raw data was dumped !!!
Convieniently after a FOIA request !!!!
I damn well gaurantee that the FOIA data is STILL intact.
Frrauds, every one of you &quot;scientists&quot; !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To you Mychele (17:58:09) :<br />
Your words:</p>
<p>the use of the word “trick” is well-established in scientific </p>
<p>literature, especially where mathematics and statistics are </p>
<p>concerned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please, then tell me , in math, what trick is used in 2+2=4 ?<br />
Please tell me what math tricks were used with the 1st </p>
<p>landing on the moon ?  Were their primitive computers loaded<br />
with &#8220;tricks&#8221; to guide them to the Sea of Tranquility ?<br />
PRESICELY WHERE they were supposed to land ?</p>
<p>a TRICK is A TRICK !  Fudge factors are sometimes necessary<br />
to make up for lack of data on a continuing trend.<br />
But it&#8217;s more than apparent that tricks and fudge factors<br />
were grossly misused in all this climate data hoax.<br />
The leaked emails attest to that.  Face it. The lid has blown </p>
<p>off of the scam ! Analasis of the parts of the code that were </p>
<p>leaked show HARD numbers where DATA should be to skew the </p>
<p>results in a favorable way. PHONEY OUTCOME !<br />
NOT REASONABLY DEBATABLE !  GARBAGE.<br />
PLUS&#8230; the raw data was dumped !!!<br />
Convieniently after a FOIA request !!!!<br />
I damn well gaurantee that the FOIA data is STILL intact.<br />
Frrauds, every one of you &#8220;scientists&#8221; !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny56</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The USA is broke !
Just raised debt ceiling to 12 TRILLION $$$$
Come one and all.
Get get our monopoly money !
We&#039;ll sell you our phoney greenbacks !
SUCKERS !!!  HAHAHAHAHA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA is broke !<br />
Just raised debt ceiling to 12 TRILLION $$$$<br />
Come one and all.<br />
Get get our monopoly money !<br />
We&#8217;ll sell you our phoney greenbacks !<br />
SUCKERS !!!  HAHAHAHAHA</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As individuals we also have to walk the walk if we want to talk the talk... small changes = big impacts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As individuals we also have to walk the walk if we want to talk the talk&#8230; small changes = big impacts.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[snip - sorry just way over the top for this blog -A]]]></description>
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		<title>By: PeterB in Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeterB in Indianapolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jackson is certainly amusing.  Of course he fails to use any logic whatsoever to back up his arguments, but then again, his arguments were not logic-based to begin with.

Overall the most amusing comments I have seen in a while... along with the ones bashing Monkton for using the name &quot;Rhodesia&quot; instead of Zimbabwe.  I am sure that there are many in the British house of Lords that still refuse to recognize that country as anything other than &quot;Rhodesia&quot;.  It was certainly much more prosperous back then.  Far from perfect, but then again, it went from far from perfect to absolute hell-hole after Mugabe took over, and you would have to be a REAL racist to not admit that fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackson is certainly amusing.  Of course he fails to use any logic whatsoever to back up his arguments, but then again, his arguments were not logic-based to begin with.</p>
<p>Overall the most amusing comments I have seen in a while&#8230; along with the ones bashing Monkton for using the name &#8220;Rhodesia&#8221; instead of Zimbabwe.  I am sure that there are many in the British house of Lords that still refuse to recognize that country as anything other than &#8220;Rhodesia&#8221;.  It was certainly much more prosperous back then.  Far from perfect, but then again, it went from far from perfect to absolute hell-hole after Mugabe took over, and you would have to be a REAL racist to not admit that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Sweeney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand your last comment Myshele.
You criticise Lord Monckton for trying to influence the debate even though he has not got a science degree yet you appear to support Al Gore and his campaign even though in this respect he is like Monckton?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand your last comment Myshele.<br />
You criticise Lord Monckton for trying to influence the debate even though he has not got a science degree yet you appear to support Al Gore and his campaign even though in this respect he is like Monckton?</p>
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		<title>By: Mychele</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mychele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a group that is all so ready to leap upon the use of the word &quot;trick&quot; in a scientific paper, you&#039;re very understanding about the use of the word &quot;Rhodesia&quot; by Christopher Monckton.

At least the use of the word &quot;trick&quot; is well-established in scientific literature, especially where mathematics and statistics are concerned. 

The use of the word Rhodesia these days is however established in few places where the light still shines.

Next time the anti-climate science PR machine think they&#039;re being so clever fooling people with cherry-picking &quot;tricks&quot; they might want to do some research first so as not to end up with egg on face. . .  
and Monckton might want to start doing some schooling as well.  He&#039;s degreed only in the classics and journalism, not science at all.
It hasn&#039;t stopped his vocal opinion from foraying into the medical field though when he advocated that all carriers of the AIDS virus be forcibly collected and quarantined for life. 
If he has published anything scientifically relevant in the atmospheric climate research realm however, it&#039;s deeply hidden.  Oh wait, there was that APS opinion piece. Not peer reviewed, not scientifically examined, and given a quite proper note to that effect. He wasn&#039;t happy with that and claimed he had been edited.  If that were the only hurdle to publishing data my research group would not be labouring over the 3rd review of our paper at this moment!

http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/20/irony-gate-viscount-monckton-a-british-peer-says-his-paper-was-peer-reviewed-by-a-scientist-how-droll/

Is allowing hobbyists to dictate public policy a wise move in any nation however. Even Al Gore doesn&#039;t claim to be a scientist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a group that is all so ready to leap upon the use of the word &#8220;trick&#8221; in a scientific paper, you&#8217;re very understanding about the use of the word &#8220;Rhodesia&#8221; by Christopher Monckton.</p>
<p>At least the use of the word &#8220;trick&#8221; is well-established in scientific literature, especially where mathematics and statistics are concerned. </p>
<p>The use of the word Rhodesia these days is however established in few places where the light still shines.</p>
<p>Next time the anti-climate science PR machine think they&#8217;re being so clever fooling people with cherry-picking &#8220;tricks&#8221; they might want to do some research first so as not to end up with egg on face. . .<br />
and Monckton might want to start doing some schooling as well.  He&#8217;s degreed only in the classics and journalism, not science at all.<br />
It hasn&#8217;t stopped his vocal opinion from foraying into the medical field though when he advocated that all carriers of the AIDS virus be forcibly collected and quarantined for life.<br />
If he has published anything scientifically relevant in the atmospheric climate research realm however, it&#8217;s deeply hidden.  Oh wait, there was that APS opinion piece. Not peer reviewed, not scientifically examined, and given a quite proper note to that effect. He wasn&#8217;t happy with that and claimed he had been edited.  If that were the only hurdle to publishing data my research group would not be labouring over the 3rd review of our paper at this moment!</p>
<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/20/irony-gate-viscount-monckton-a-british-peer-says-his-paper-was-peer-reviewed-by-a-scientist-how-droll/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/20/irony-gate-viscount-monckton-a-british-peer-says-his-paper-was-peer-reviewed-by-a-scientist-how-droll/</a></p>
<p>Is allowing hobbyists to dictate public policy a wise move in any nation however. Even Al Gore doesn&#8217;t claim to be a scientist.</p>
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		<title>By: kwik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kwik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the best wishes to Lord Monckton!

Here he is demonstrating that asking a Greenie simple basic questions is allways the best approach;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkB5DuveDE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the best wishes to Lord Monckton!</p>
<p>Here he is demonstrating that asking a Greenie simple basic questions is allways the best approach;</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/17/lord-monckton-barred-from-copenhagen-conference-pushed-to-the-ground-by-security/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/OzkB5DuveDE/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Tuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Tuttle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Roy&lt;/b&gt; (02:50:14) :&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Monkton fills the role of skeptical activist but he spreads himself too thin by introducing too many unfashionable ideas at once.&lt;/i&gt;

Too many people pushing too many &quot;fashionable ideas&quot; got us into this mess in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Roy</b> (02:50:14) :</i><br />
<i>Monkton fills the role of skeptical activist but he spreads himself too thin by introducing too many unfashionable ideas at once.</i></p>
<p>Too many people pushing too many &#8220;fashionable ideas&#8221; got us into this mess in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to that!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rubicon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rubicon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the years, the left has always screamed that folks on the right are the purveyors of tyranny &amp; hate. They told all the right was responsible for possible &#039;Nazi-like&#039; governance. We were told people on the right were mean &amp; vicious. Yet when I see how &#039;the left&#039; is now responding to its power in America &amp; around the world, I suspect the world has been the dupe of a system designed to discredit those they see as enemies so the left can assert its global government on all. And woe be it to those who actually voice opposition or any level of dissent. Obama has attacked any &amp; all who may voice an opposition opinion &amp; his administration is rife w/ folks who would gladly shut down the voices of his opposition, so all the people hear is &#039;his word&#039; and no other viewpoint is available.
Some on the right are nuts... but lets be real folks, many on the left are just as nuts &amp; in a number of cases, significantly more vicious!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the years, the left has always screamed that folks on the right are the purveyors of tyranny &amp; hate. They told all the right was responsible for possible &#8216;Nazi-like&#8217; governance. We were told people on the right were mean &amp; vicious. Yet when I see how &#8216;the left&#8217; is now responding to its power in America &amp; around the world, I suspect the world has been the dupe of a system designed to discredit those they see as enemies so the left can assert its global government on all. And woe be it to those who actually voice opposition or any level of dissent. Obama has attacked any &amp; all who may voice an opposition opinion &amp; his administration is rife w/ folks who would gladly shut down the voices of his opposition, so all the people hear is &#8216;his word&#8217; and no other viewpoint is available.<br />
Some on the right are nuts&#8230; but lets be real folks, many on the left are just as nuts &amp; in a number of cases, significantly more vicious!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke the Sneak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeke the Sneak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Accredited press organizations only at Copenhagen?


&#039;That brought to mind not only the difficulties I personally had getting into the conference center this week but also problems I ran into immediately with the UNFCCC&#039;s secretariat when I tried to obtain press accreditation as IEEE Spectrum magazine&#039;s editor for energy and the environment. When proper press credentials failed to arrive on request, and I sent an e-mail message of inquiry, the secretariat told me that they did not issue press credentials to publications of &quot;non-governmental organizations&quot; and only accredited press organizations somehow recognized by member governments.&#039;


http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/energy/renewables/energywise/copenhagen-and-the-uns-ngo-problem]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accredited press organizations only at Copenhagen?</p>
<p>&#8216;That brought to mind not only the difficulties I personally had getting into the conference center this week but also problems I ran into immediately with the UNFCCC&#8217;s secretariat when I tried to obtain press accreditation as IEEE Spectrum magazine&#8217;s editor for energy and the environment. When proper press credentials failed to arrive on request, and I sent an e-mail message of inquiry, the secretariat told me that they did not issue press credentials to publications of &#8220;non-governmental organizations&#8221; and only accredited press organizations somehow recognized by member governments.&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/energy/renewables/energywise/copenhagen-and-the-uns-ngo-problem" rel="nofollow">http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/energy/renewables/energywise/copenhagen-and-the-uns-ngo-problem</a></p>
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		<title>By: Larry LaBorde</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry LaBorde]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe it is only fair that Robert Mugabe receive fair compensation.  I do not feel that 20 trillion dollars is too much for such a distinguished leader.  I just think we should pay him in his own now worthless Zimbawa trillion dollar notes.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it is only fair that Robert Mugabe receive fair compensation.  I do not feel that 20 trillion dollars is too much for such a distinguished leader.  I just think we should pay him in his own now worthless Zimbawa trillion dollar notes&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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