So nothing new there, then. That said, you have overlooked my important point that it is too soon for climate sceptics to celebrate. Whatever these emails may reveal about the personal views and behaviour of some climate scientists, they do not amount to evidence of fraud and corruption.

We have seen premature sceptic celebrations before: Monckton’s APS item; the Theon declaration; the EPA “Carbongate”; the Yamal series, all of which were going to bring AGW to its knees, blow it out of the water, turn the tide etc. None of these things happened.

Of course, this leak is bigger than anything before, but to date we have seen no smoking guns that definitively point to fraud and corruption. It should also be remembered that climate sceptics have been crying fraud for a long time, and this no doubt accounts for some of the caution displayed by the mainstream media over the latest allegations.

The more feverish the excitement over this event, the greater the disappointment when the excitement peters out.

Henry Galt: “What science is there to be ‘undermined’ exactly?”

Try IPCC reports, which cite a wide range of evidence from a number of scientific disciplines.

What we need to do is to get rid of the previous peaks and the blade of the hockey stick would be so much more prominent.

Steve McIntyre provides a list of acronyms common on climate related sites:

http://climateaudit101.wikispot.org/Glossary_of_Acronyms

For general purpose use, this is a handy site to put in your favorites list:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/

As is this one (I just used it to find out what ‘prats’ means):

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

faster download

A nice header there old chap; well maybe not so old.

“And do check out Watts Up With That, whose traffic went through the roof yesterday, enabling to demonstrate scientifically that Hockey Stick is after all a genuine phenomenon – and not merely a figment of Michael Mann’s overactive imagination.”

We’ve seen the WUWT hockey stick above. Just to show that the WordPress numbers aren’t a fluke, check out the latest figures from Quantcast that show the huge peak reached on 20 Nov with a slight drop following on 21 Nov (but still much higher than any previous daily peak over the past 6 months):

http://www.quantcast.com/profile/traffic-compare?domain0=realclimate.org&domain1=climateprogress.org&domain2=wattsupwiththat.com&domain3=climatecrisis.net&domain4=

Finally, from Alexa comes additional confirmation. It shows the rise in volume a bit in the Traffic Rank and even more impressively in Reach:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wattsupwiththat.com+realclimate.org+climatecrisis.net+climateprogress.org

mike roddy (09:11:32) :

Gavin Schmidt of RealClimate put together an excellent post about hockey stick slayers such as you and McIntyre. Gavin produced seven graphs with no Yamal or dendro evidence included showing trends that were identical to Gore’s hockey stick, for both CO2 and temperature.

Both this blog and ClimateAudit are lively and interesting. Problem is, there is a reverse relationship to the actual scientific evidence.

“Importantly, nothing in the emails undermines either the science or reality of climate change. Celebration at this time is premature, and is bound to turn to dissapointment in the long run.”

Climate has always changed. There, the injured animal is painlessly put to sleep.

Now. What science is there to be ‘undermined’ exactly?

We would not be searching, or shouting, for evidence if there was any.

Conjecture is not evidence. Guesswork, confidence and models are not evidence.

The alarmists have zero evidence that CO2 has or will “hurt” Mother Earth or her inhabitants. We would be clubbed to death with it if they did.

Anthony,
> it would be helpful to me and many other (new?) readers if a list of
> the more common acronyms used in the CRU emails was published.

Up at the top navigation bar, click on Glossary.

“..but what people really want to know.. is:

How will this debunking/scandal effect my 401K, my house value, what kind of car I drive, the value of the dollar, international trade, my job, the cost of groceries, gas, and electricity, etc. ? How it will impact the political balance of power over the next 3 years, and other mundane issues of concern to the average ( US ) citizen.

Ordinary folks don’t give a rat’s fanny about the “science” or the internal shenanigans of some obscure research center. They care about how and when it might impact them personally in ways they may not even realize.”

CuriousGeorge is correct – people have concerns about what will affect them personally.

That’s why the issue to publicise is the evidence that the Team were ruining the careers of people who disagreed with them. That will strike a chord with all scientists – who here has not wondered at some time why they were passed over for a position? And that’s also a concern for every man in the street….

Still, for AGW to be ongoing at this point, after so many REAL scientists have proven the truth for so many decades – this just adds more back up to many great, decent, people who are trying to warn the world that Mann, Hansen, et al deserve life sentences and all who went along with the fraud at least deserve time in prison and to be stripped of scientific credentials and degrees.

Will that happen, not with the current corrupt administration, I doubt any mention will occur… , they are probably still going to try to pass cap & tax.

I sent a letter to Sen. McCain and explained in 2 pages why his position could not be rationalized… I cited WUWT and CA… I also suggested he speak with Sen. Inhofe, if he still had questions… I do not think I was the only letter sent to him… but he has now come around!

If your a US voter… you may want to choose a Senator or so and just explain what you have learned, at the least they will realize more of us know the truth…

Perhaps this new data will cause a few “open minded” alarmists to rethink their positions?

Keep up the good work – Anthony and Congrats.