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	<title>Comments on: Monckton climate change video goes viral</title>
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		<title>By: ThomasL</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/monckton-climate-change-video-goes-viral/#comment-287140</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing came of Copenhagen, but Lord Monckton&#039;s warning was on fairly solid legal ground as I understand it.

With Missouri v. Holland the SCOTUS decided that treaties had the capacity to render actions constitutional, which if taken by Congress would have been unconstitutional.  Coincidentally, the issue at hand was environmental.  An earlier law protecting interstate migratory birds was twice struck down on constitutional grounds (ie, the Federal gov&#039;t had no authority over birds, having no bird-related powers vested it by the text).  The inventive way around the Constitution by the environmentalist supporters was to sign an international treaty protecting migratory birds, on the pretext that the treaty, being supreme law of the land as provided by the Constitution, could overcome any constitutional limitations.  Missouri argued that the Federal gov&#039;t had no ability, by treaty, to bind states with laws which if enacted &quot;freestanding&quot; would have been themselves unconstitutional.  SCOTUS went against Missouri.

That was step one, and established the idea that a Federal treaty can entirely invalidate and supplant existing constitutional provisions, including the Bill of Rights -- in that case, the 10th amendment.

The next half of the puzzle is United State v. Belmont, which held that an &quot;executive agreement&quot; by the POTUS with a foreign power was binding on the states and could not be rejected even when the agreement was against state law.  The issue at the time was the formal recognition of the USSR by FDR, and his accession to allow the nationalization of Russian assets held in the US (bank accounts, etc).  The owners of those assets naturally objected, and NY state at least refused to comply.  SCOTUS again went against the state, Justice Sutherland arguing, incomprehensibly, that this was justified under the treaty provisions of the Constitution (he even referenced Missouri v. Holland).

The problem in Belmont being that no treaty had been approved by the Senate at all, it was just the President&#039;s &quot;executive agreement&quot; with the Soviet Union.

The combination of those two atrocious decisions is that [external] treaties may entirely subvert and trump all [internal] rights and constitutionality, and that to fall within the category of &quot;treaty&quot; all that is necessary is that the President, on his own initiative and without any ratification, make an agreement with some foreign power or group of powers.

In practice, &quot;I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if there weren&#039;t some trouble about this,&quot; if it were attempted by that route, but there is certainly some precedent supporting a dire view of the things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing came of Copenhagen, but Lord Monckton&#8217;s warning was on fairly solid legal ground as I understand it.</p>
<p>With Missouri v. Holland the SCOTUS decided that treaties had the capacity to render actions constitutional, which if taken by Congress would have been unconstitutional.  Coincidentally, the issue at hand was environmental.  An earlier law protecting interstate migratory birds was twice struck down on constitutional grounds (ie, the Federal gov&#8217;t had no authority over birds, having no bird-related powers vested it by the text).  The inventive way around the Constitution by the environmentalist supporters was to sign an international treaty protecting migratory birds, on the pretext that the treaty, being supreme law of the land as provided by the Constitution, could overcome any constitutional limitations.  Missouri argued that the Federal gov&#8217;t had no ability, by treaty, to bind states with laws which if enacted &#8220;freestanding&#8221; would have been themselves unconstitutional.  SCOTUS went against Missouri.</p>
<p>That was step one, and established the idea that a Federal treaty can entirely invalidate and supplant existing constitutional provisions, including the Bill of Rights &#8212; in that case, the 10th amendment.</p>
<p>The next half of the puzzle is United State v. Belmont, which held that an &#8220;executive agreement&#8221; by the POTUS with a foreign power was binding on the states and could not be rejected even when the agreement was against state law.  The issue at the time was the formal recognition of the USSR by FDR, and his accession to allow the nationalization of Russian assets held in the US (bank accounts, etc).  The owners of those assets naturally objected, and NY state at least refused to comply.  SCOTUS again went against the state, Justice Sutherland arguing, incomprehensibly, that this was justified under the treaty provisions of the Constitution (he even referenced Missouri v. Holland).</p>
<p>The problem in Belmont being that no treaty had been approved by the Senate at all, it was just the President&#8217;s &#8220;executive agreement&#8221; with the Soviet Union.</p>
<p>The combination of those two atrocious decisions is that [external] treaties may entirely subvert and trump all [internal] rights and constitutionality, and that to fall within the category of &#8220;treaty&#8221; all that is necessary is that the President, on his own initiative and without any ratification, make an agreement with some foreign power or group of powers.</p>
<p>In practice, &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if there weren&#8217;t some trouble about this,&#8221; if it were attempted by that route, but there is certainly some precedent supporting a dire view of the things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; . . . but one must take heed when the treety actually talks about an unelected, international governing body that has political and financial power over our country.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you can bet your sweet burro people would, especially the bankers and big investors, were that the case.  It&#039;s not the case, though, is it.  No, you can&#039;t find it in the treaty, can you.

One World is a frequent flyer plan, not a political conspiracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> . . . but one must take heed when the treety actually talks about an unelected, international governing body that has political and financial power over our country.</p></blockquote>
<p>And you can bet your sweet burro people would, especially the bankers and big investors, were that the case.  It&#8217;s not the case, though, is it.  No, you can&#8217;t find it in the treaty, can you.</p>
<p>One World is a frequent flyer plan, not a political conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: benton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[benton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, this is very alarming stuff to be this close to the groundwork for a new world order or one world government. I understand the hyperbole on each side of the coin but one must take heed when the treety actually talks about an unelected, international governing body that has political and financial power over our country. We just need to see the warning signs before it is too late.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truth-it.net/the_business_of_climate_change.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the business of climate change&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is very alarming stuff to be this close to the groundwork for a new world order or one world government. I understand the hyperbole on each side of the coin but one must take heed when the treety actually talks about an unelected, international governing body that has political and financial power over our country. We just need to see the warning signs before it is too late.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truth-it.net/the_business_of_climate_change.html" rel="nofollow">the business of climate change</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan the Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan the Brit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monckton is truly awesome &amp; he is right about most things, particularly this AGW for Global Governmant scam.  Cma you imagine, a Marxist Socialist lead World Government, moulded on the ghastly European Union model, i.e. no democracy just self-enriching self-promoting politicos taxing us all to death.  They&#039;ll be so busy sefl-promoting themselves that they will not see the reality of an Ice-Age creeping up around the corner.

OT.  After spending a few hundred quid on my darling daughter&#039;s new car, I sat down in the late afternoon yesterday &amp; watched a 70&#039;s sci-fi thriller, I caught it mid stream where there were all these weirdy block-robed mutant humans sitting in a makeshift court room, with a poor fella manacled &amp; shackled head &amp; toe spreadeageld on the floor in front of the baddy leader, who was lording it over this poor fella &amp; ranting on like a bible-bashing preacher, that he &quot;had knowledge of the use of the wheel&quot; &amp; other such machines of humanity, that had allegedly caused their current predicament, for which this poor fella was unfortunately to be sentenced to death.  I have to admit that I at first thought this was a live broadcast from a side-show at Copenhagen for few minutes (the shape of things to come no doubt?).  Then of course it dawned me that it was only a film after all, the wonderful Omega Man (original, sorry to Will  Smith) with the gr8 (blast that texting daughter of mine) Charlton Heston, with the wonderful Anthony Zerbe as the chief baddy!  What a relief that was, although I dare say that&#039;s where Greenpeace (Redwar) gets its scripts from!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monckton is truly awesome &amp; he is right about most things, particularly this AGW for Global Governmant scam.  Cma you imagine, a Marxist Socialist lead World Government, moulded on the ghastly European Union model, i.e. no democracy just self-enriching self-promoting politicos taxing us all to death.  They&#8217;ll be so busy sefl-promoting themselves that they will not see the reality of an Ice-Age creeping up around the corner.</p>
<p>OT.  After spending a few hundred quid on my darling daughter&#8217;s new car, I sat down in the late afternoon yesterday &amp; watched a 70&#8242;s sci-fi thriller, I caught it mid stream where there were all these weirdy block-robed mutant humans sitting in a makeshift court room, with a poor fella manacled &amp; shackled head &amp; toe spreadeageld on the floor in front of the baddy leader, who was lording it over this poor fella &amp; ranting on like a bible-bashing preacher, that he &#8220;had knowledge of the use of the wheel&#8221; &amp; other such machines of humanity, that had allegedly caused their current predicament, for which this poor fella was unfortunately to be sentenced to death.  I have to admit that I at first thought this was a live broadcast from a side-show at Copenhagen for few minutes (the shape of things to come no doubt?).  Then of course it dawned me that it was only a film after all, the wonderful Omega Man (original, sorry to Will  Smith) with the gr8 (blast that texting daughter of mine) Charlton Heston, with the wonderful Anthony Zerbe as the chief baddy!  What a relief that was, although I dare say that&#8217;s where Greenpeace (Redwar) gets its scripts from!</p>
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		<title>By: maninalift</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maninalift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@claybarham OMG OGM the logos used to represent climate change don&#039;t give an accurate picture of the causes of CO2 production.

How is this relevant? Aside from the fact that I don&#039;t remember seeing any pictures that actually look like cooling towers, billowing clouds are a neat visual representation, transparent gasses don&#039;t have the same visual impact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@claybarham OMG OGM the logos used to represent climate change don&#8217;t give an accurate picture of the causes of CO2 production.</p>
<p>How is this relevant? Aside from the fact that I don&#8217;t remember seeing any pictures that actually look like cooling towers, billowing clouds are a neat visual representation, transparent gasses don&#8217;t have the same visual impact.</p>
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		<title>By: kwik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kwik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In norwegian newspaper-blogs, teenagers are discussing to ban air-travel for holidays and such.

The teachers are on to them with AGW alarmist stuff on a daily basis. 

When they grow up, there will be hell to pay. 

Its like a coming horde of green Hitler youth.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In norwegian newspaper-blogs, teenagers are discussing to ban air-travel for holidays and such.</p>
<p>The teachers are on to them with AGW alarmist stuff on a daily basis. </p>
<p>When they grow up, there will be hell to pay. </p>
<p>Its like a coming horde of green Hitler youth&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: claybarham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[claybarham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you see &quot;smoke stacks&quot; on Television to boost the argument of man-made climate change, you have to be a dummy not to see that most all the &quot;stacks&quot; spewing out white stuff, are actually spewing out steam, which, for those who quit thinking, is moisture.  Now, moisture in the atmosphere is, by far, a bigger heat-sealing blanket than heavier-than-air plant food (carbon dioxide), but it is a useful ingredient just like plant food.  It would appear, the promoters of man-made climate change are simply trying to fool the many so they can walk off with the control they seek, and the money. Claysamerica.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you see &#8220;smoke stacks&#8221; on Television to boost the argument of man-made climate change, you have to be a dummy not to see that most all the &#8220;stacks&#8221; spewing out white stuff, are actually spewing out steam, which, for those who quit thinking, is moisture.  Now, moisture in the atmosphere is, by far, a bigger heat-sealing blanket than heavier-than-air plant food (carbon dioxide), but it is a useful ingredient just like plant food.  It would appear, the promoters of man-made climate change are simply trying to fool the many so they can walk off with the control they seek, and the money. Claysamerica.com</p>
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		<title>By: kelv</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kelv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[check this out- try to get the lowest score. hilarious. &quot;air travel is...&quot; &quot;how much did hurricane katrina cost....&quot; trust me there are some trick questions. getting zero can actually be a challenage.
tbf have writen to oxfam and complained about this waste of internet space.
http://www.theclimatechallenge.org/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check this out- try to get the lowest score. hilarious. &#8220;air travel is&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;how much did hurricane katrina cost&#8230;.&#8221; trust me there are some trick questions. getting zero can actually be a challenage.<br />
tbf have writen to oxfam and complained about this waste of internet space.<br />
<a href="http://www.theclimatechallenge.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theclimatechallenge.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: silentsigh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silentsigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a fresh perspective on Lord Monckton check out this parodied debate which he has with Al gore. Some levity but a very serious message in there which I think we should all heed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzR0-j0O0o

A frikking awesome video which all should see - this one should go viral in a sane world.

namaste]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a fresh perspective on Lord Monckton check out this parodied debate which he has with Al gore. Some levity but a very serious message in there which I think we should all heed&#8230;</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/monckton-climate-change-video-goes-viral/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/KBzR0-j0O0o/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>A frikking awesome video which all should see &#8211; this one should go viral in a sane world.</p>
<p>namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smokey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Phil Clarke&lt;/b&gt;,

Viscount Monckton and the alarmist contingent have been going at it for the last couple of years. And New Scientist has no more credibility than Nexus.

For Monckton&#039;s response to Schmidt&#039;s ankle biting: &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/monckton/chuckit_schmidt.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click&lt;/a&gt;

Oh, dear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Phil Clarke</b>,</p>
<p>Viscount Monckton and the alarmist contingent have been going at it for the last couple of years. And New Scientist has no more credibility than Nexus.</p>
<p>For Monckton&#8217;s response to Schmidt&#8217;s ankle biting: <a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/monckton/chuckit_schmidt.pdf" rel="nofollow">click</a></p>
<p>Oh, dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Clarke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Some stuff that you all may not know. Lord Monckton has a sister, Rosa, who was a close friend of Princess Diana. Rosa Monckton is married to Dominic Lawson, a journalist and former editor of The Sunday Telegraph. &lt;/i&gt;

And it was the Sunday Telepgraph that is amongst the few publications to reproduce Monckton&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.altenergyaction.org/Monckton.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nonsense.&lt;/a&gt;

No wait, hang on, his treatise was accepted by this &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/upload/2007/01/nexus.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reputable academic journal, right next to the study of Time Travel Portals ....

Of course there was his &#039;peer-reviewed&#039; piece on the APS website, &lt;i&gt;I spoke to Al Saperstein of Wayne State University in Michigan, one of two co-editors of Physics &amp; Society, the offending newsletter.

He stressed that that the article was not sent to anyone for peer-reviewing. Saperstein himself edited it. &quot;I&#039;m a little ticked off that some people have claimed that this was peer-reviewed,&quot; he said. &quot;It was not.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/blog/environment/2008/07/now-will-you-publish-my-paper-showing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh dear.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Some stuff that you all may not know. Lord Monckton has a sister, Rosa, who was a close friend of Princess Diana. Rosa Monckton is married to Dominic Lawson, a journalist and former editor of The Sunday Telegraph. </i></p>
<p>And it was the Sunday Telepgraph that is amongst the few publications to reproduce Monckton&#8217;s <a href="http://www.altenergyaction.org/Monckton.html" rel="nofollow">nonsense.</a></p>
<p>No wait, hang on, his treatise was accepted by this <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/upload/2007/01/nexus.jpg" rel="nofollow">reputable academic journal, right next to the study of Time Travel Portals &#8230;.</p>
<p>Of course there was his &#8216;peer-reviewed&#8217; piece on the APS website, <i>I spoke to Al Saperstein of Wayne State University in Michigan, one of two co-editors of Physics &amp; Society, the offending newsletter.</p>
<p>He stressed that that the article was not sent to anyone for peer-reviewing. Saperstein himself edited it. &#8220;I&#8217;m a little ticked off that some people have claimed that this was peer-reviewed,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It was not.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/blog/environment/2008/07/now-will-you-publish-my-paper-showing.html" rel="nofollow">Oh dear.</a></i></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Vaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Ken Gregory (05:54:20) &quot;Have you heard about our radio ad blitz in 15 Canadian cities? Hear our ads at http://www.friendsofscience.org/ &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ken, thanks for letting me know.

Friends of Science 2009 Radio Ads
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=451

I flip the dial all hours of the day in Vancouver.  I&#039;ve not yet heard these ads on any of the dominant stations here.

For any future rounds of ads I would advise caution regarding mention of the &quot;quiet sun&quot; and &quot;whether or not&quot; there has been warming in the past decade.

Partial Elaboration:
It is important that the public understand that warming happens for &lt;i&gt;natural&lt;/i&gt; reasons (&amp; that solar-terrestrial relations are &lt;i&gt;complex&lt;/i&gt;).  It is also &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; important to alert the public to the alarmist tactic of conflating warming with &lt;i&gt;anthropogenic&lt;/i&gt; warming, as if natural variation can only cause temporary &lt;i&gt;cooling&lt;/i&gt; and is &lt;i&gt;no longer capable&lt;/i&gt; of causing natural &lt;i&gt;warming&lt;/i&gt;.

Aside:
The primary issue I see (i.e. the screaming weak [&lt;i&gt;actually nonexistent&lt;/i&gt;] link) is the &lt;b&gt;untenable assumption of randomness&lt;/b&gt; in statistical inference on solar/geophysical spatiotemporal series ...but I realize (!) that isn&#039;t necessarily a message that can be crafted to resonate with the general public under the constraints of 30 second air-wave blasts.

Cheers,
Paul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ken Gregory (05:54:20) &#8220;Have you heard about our radio ad blitz in 15 Canadian cities? Hear our ads at <a href="http://www.friendsofscience.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.friendsofscience.org/</a> &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Ken, thanks for letting me know.</p>
<p>Friends of Science 2009 Radio Ads<br />
<a href="http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=451" rel="nofollow">http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=451</a></p>
<p>I flip the dial all hours of the day in Vancouver.  I&#8217;ve not yet heard these ads on any of the dominant stations here.</p>
<p>For any future rounds of ads I would advise caution regarding mention of the &#8220;quiet sun&#8221; and &#8220;whether or not&#8221; there has been warming in the past decade.</p>
<p>Partial Elaboration:<br />
It is important that the public understand that warming happens for <i>natural</i> reasons (&amp; that solar-terrestrial relations are <i>complex</i>).  It is also <i>very</i> important to alert the public to the alarmist tactic of conflating warming with <i>anthropogenic</i> warming, as if natural variation can only cause temporary <i>cooling</i> and is <i>no longer capable</i> of causing natural <i>warming</i>.</p>
<p>Aside:<br />
The primary issue I see (i.e. the screaming weak [<i>actually nonexistent</i>] link) is the <b>untenable assumption of randomness</b> in statistical inference on solar/geophysical spatiotemporal series &#8230;but I realize (!) that isn&#8217;t necessarily a message that can be crafted to resonate with the general public under the constraints of 30 second air-wave blasts.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Paul.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good news is they have yet to get around to the biggest greenhouse gas of all, that one lighter-than-air component that really acts as a blanket to keep the sun&#039;s radiant heat trapped in the earth.  Most exhaust stacks, including internal combustion engines, spew out this gas in large volumes, dwarfing carbon dioxide, methane, sulfur dioxide and even nitrogen for its impact on the environment.  It&#039;s awful!  If we didn&#039;t have to contend with it, we could be much happier living on a bone dry planet.  claysamerica.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is they have yet to get around to the biggest greenhouse gas of all, that one lighter-than-air component that really acts as a blanket to keep the sun&#8217;s radiant heat trapped in the earth.  Most exhaust stacks, including internal combustion engines, spew out this gas in large volumes, dwarfing carbon dioxide, methane, sulfur dioxide and even nitrogen for its impact on the environment.  It&#8217;s awful!  If we didn&#8217;t have to contend with it, we could be much happier living on a bone dry planet.  claysamerica.com</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Gregory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Vaughan (01:35:09) : 
&quot;Interesting. Never heard anything about it.&quot;

Have you heard about our radio ad blitz in 15 Canadian cities? Hear our ads
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Vaughan (01:35:09) :<br />
&#8220;Interesting. Never heard anything about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you heard about our radio ad blitz in 15 Canadian cities? Hear our ads<br />
at<br />
<a href="http://www.friendsofscience.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.friendsofscience.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Vaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Ken Gregory (22:15:13) &quot;Friends of Science in association with the Frontier Centre for Public policy (FCPP) sponsored Lord Monckton for a cross-Canada speaking tour September 29 – October 8, 2009.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting.  Never heard anything about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ken Gregory (22:15:13) &#8220;Friends of Science in association with the Frontier Centre for Public policy (FCPP) sponsored Lord Monckton for a cross-Canada speaking tour September 29 – October 8, 2009.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Interesting.  Never heard anything about it.</p>
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