Monckton climate change video goes viral

looks like Asia will hit some cool records!
http://wxmof course 1aps.org/pix/temp5.html
to be fair western europe is looking “warmish” but 1/3 of visual area of china
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html

Its because of his British accent. People love that. /s

This is good news, but it’s going to be difficult to counter AGW-scare articles like this one about the spread of killer jellyfish in a warming world:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/climate_09_jellyfish_menace
;->
Paul

Great stuff. So concise.
This man (along with Anthony, Steve and many others) should ALL get a Nobel prize. (Mind you, the value of those has dropped a wee bit in the past 2 years, eh? ☺)
I sent this to my Canadian member of parliament. It looks as though the Canadian government will not sign anything without China and India. Sure hope so.
Good luck with Obama on this.
Clive
Alberta, Canada

“The more people learn about the supposed issue of ‘climate change’ and how green extremists intend to control our lives, the more skeptical they become,” said Jeff Davis, president of Minnesota Majority.
I put the post below on Tips & Notes, but given the above statement who wants to have their government put a GPS locator in their car? I wonder if the Duth will accept it?
“Dutch first in Europe to adopt green tax for cars”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-first-in-europe-to-adopt-green-tax-for-cars-1821268.html
“The Dutch government is to become the first country in Europe to introduce a green tax to replace annual road tax on cars.
Drivers will have to pay per kilometer driven in a bid to end chronic traffic jams and cut carbon emissions. The system, which will use Global Positioning Systems (GPS) to monitor cars, could be used as a test case for other countries weighing options for easing crowded roads. Singapore has a similar scheme for charging according to the amount of travel. “

The Viscount Counted … http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/oct/20/christopher-monckton/british-climate-skeptic-says-copenhagen-treaty-thr/

This man stated as fact, and in print, that the Chinese sailed around the arctic in the Fifteenth Century despite the fact that this claim had already been shown to be wrong. Even the Chinese don’t accept it. Honestly, if a loony Viscount like this is the best you guys can do, you are seriously marginalized.

If Viscount Lord Monckton was a “scientific advisor” to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and the same Prime Minister so eagerly jumped on the AGW bandwaggon, did she do so at the behest of VLM or did he advise her not to do so? Just wondering …

Phil Clarke (12:37:07) :
The Viscount Counted … http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Fstatements%2F2009%2Foct%2F20%2Fchristopher-monckton%2Fbritish-climate-skeptic-says-copenhagen-treaty-thr%2F
I read that analysis. How quaint, and naive.

“Threat of climate change should be treated like war say engineers”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6554690/Threat-of-climate-change-should-be-treated-like-war-say-engineers.html
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“…The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, just to keep people frightened…”
-George Orwell, in 1984

Vincent (12:56:22) :
3.5 million hits. Excellent. The thing that must really rile the alarmists is how the public flock to anything skeptical of climate change – Ian Pilmer, Lord Moncktons video etc. It just shows there is a real hunger for truth.
“It is not the possession of truth, but the success which attends the seeking after it, that enriches the seeker and brings happiness to him.” Max Planck

AGW is promoted by the same misguided grouping that promoted Rachal Carsons Silent Spring, which led to the banning of DDT and has directly led to the deaths of over 40 million humans 4/5th of which are children.
The National Academy of Sciences concluded in 1965 that “in a little more than two decades, DDT had prevented 500 million [human] deaths that would otherwise have been inevitable.” The World Health Organization stated that DDT had “killed more insects and saved more people than any other substance.”
In the two decades DDT was used no instance of any human or animal harm was ever observed, yet DDT was banned.
The only way to permanently improve the lives of the third world population is base load power generation, which means coal powered generation, there is nothing else.
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html

3.5 million hits sounds good and it’s a wonderful result, but it’s still not enough.
Obama will talk to the Chinese Leadership until their ears fall off for support on his Climate Bill and the Copenhagen treaty.
Don’t ask me why but I have a nasty feeling about it.
If he pulls it off he will be the “green hero” who saved the “deal”.
I think the biggest battle is ahead of us and I am glad to have Lord Monckton on our side but we are not out of the woods by a long shot.
We have to kill and bury the entire Climate deal and quit the the UN.

Who cares if he is wrong?? The Monkfish has spoken; the Monkfish gets lots of hits (YouTube rules!); blog science *wins* whatever the alarmists might say! I’d rather have a baboon spouting sensible nonsense than a scientist trying to bamboozle me with tree-rings, dodgy stats and whatnot on graph paper any day!
And I see that Arctic sea ice is on the up again, which is surely a good thing? (Or so my polar bear chums tell me…)

There is 250 million tons of water on Earth for every man, woman, and child on the planet.
An olympic size swimming pool has 660,000 US gallons of water, which is approximately 2,756 tons of water.
If my math is somewhat accurate there is, 90,711 olympic size swimming pools of water for every man, woman, and child on the planet. That’s a lot of water.

Good Summary of Obamasiah’s Foreign Affairs trips . . .
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/11/14/lawrence-solomon-oba-mao-in-china.aspx

Apparently AGW hasn’t delayed the start of the first snow of the year here in Wichita, there’s no snow accumulating here, but it is snowing today even though it’s warmer in Nebraska, the reason being an upper level low dragging cold air into Kansas from Colorado.
For every year I remember snow has often been first seen in late November to early December, there was one year with an October snow but that was after Mt. Pinatubo erupted.

Phil Clarke (13:33:07) wrote :
The Chinese Navy claim (based on a risible fantasy from Gavin Menzies, not sure if this counts as ‘research’, but hey if you’re going to rewrite climate science you may as well rewrite history while you’re about it) was in part one of Monckton’s piece in the Sunday Telegraph from November 2006. To be fair, he apologised and withdrew the claim a week later in Part Two. Presumably someone pointed out that his source was bunkum in the meantime. Shame about the other howlers. Shame he still hasn’t got round to addressing this latest batch.
Phil,
Thanks for beating me to posting the link to the Journal of World History piece on the Chinese in the Arctic nonesense. And I’m glad to know that Monckton withdrew the claim. I only wish the Telegraph would add that retraction as a modification to the original article. A student of mine was sent Monckton’s original piece from the Telegraph and quoted it in a term paper. Ouch!Climate change skepticism really has brought anti-science back and these poor children are at the mercy of their inboxes.

Ron de Haan (13:49:50) :
The West has the same level of mentality as the idiot that teenagers goad into jumping into something rotten, promising to follow after he goes first.
The Putin & Jintao will simply say sure, go ahead, after you.

I give thanks that there are guys like Monckton around. He is persistent and won’t let his guard down as he knows how politicians operate.
However I can’t help an ironic smile whenever he is quoted at being “Monckton, former science advisor to Margaret Thatcher…”
“Before the 1980s this hypothesis was usually regarded as a curiosity because the nineteenth century calculations indicated that mean global temperature should have risen more than 1°C by 1940, and it had not. Then, in 1979, Mrs Margaret Thatcher (now Lady Thatcher) became Prime Minister of the UK, and she elevated the hypothesis to the status of a major international policy issue. ”
“So, early in her global warming campaign – and at her personal instigation – the UK’s Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research was established…..”
http://www.john-daly.com/history.htm
He started at the Policy Unit in 1982, where he worked until 1986 as a special advisor on economic matters. I only he knew then what he knew now.

Sorry typo last sentence should read “IF only he knew then what he knew now.”

Here is a taste what you have coming if you give a single inch to this socialist claptrap …
EU Presidency candidate Herman Van Rompuy calls for new taxes
“Herman Van Rompuy, the man widely expected to be appointed the first President of Europe this week, has called for new eco-taxes and levies on the financial sector to fund a more powerful European Union.”
Read it carefully!

Write to your local politicians and put the heat on them. Mine had a speech a couple of weeks ago where he said;
“It is not about whether individual politicians here in this place, members of parliament, believe in climate change or not.”
“The scheme we debate here should not be about even what the government is doing, because ultimately it is about what individuals do,”
I was horrified. And this from the Opposition! no wonder its sailing through! Take them to task, start your own blogs, expose their hypocrisy – make them think about the ramifications their behavior is having.
http://twawki.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/no-wonder-we-are-in-this-mess/

How could a treaty ever override the constitution?
and
If the US wanted to abandon a treaty, any treaty, how would anyone prevent the US from just dropping it?

Rob (13:33:48)
http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/100-things-about-ddt-dissecting-10/
DDT is a persistent poison – it does not quickly break down to safe compounds.
Mosquitoes breed rapidly and DDT resistant strains were developing. To continue to spray DDT to eradicate the non resistant mosquitoes would be pointless. Why poison the world eradicating fewer and fewer mosquitoes
From 1952:
http://www.ajtmh.org/cgi/content/abstract/1/3/389
http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/control_prevention/vector_control.htm
Resistance to DDT and dieldrin and concern over their environmental impact led to the introduction of other, more expensive insecticides. As the eradication campaign wore on, the responsibility for maintaining it was shifted to endemic countries that were not able to shoulder the financial burden. The campaign collapsed and in many areas, malaria soon returned to pre-campaign levels
In Greece, in the late nineteen-forties, for example, a malariologist noticed Anopheles sacharovi mosquitoes flying around a room that had been sprayed with DDT. In time, resistance began to emerge in areas where spraying was heaviest. To the malaria warriors, it was a shock. “Why should they have known?” Janet Hemingway, an expert in DDT resistance at the University of Wales in Cardiff, says. “It was the first synthetic insecticide. They just assumed that it would keep on working, and that the insects couldn’t do much about it.”
http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Actives/ddt.htm
Human exposure
Analysis of human fat has been carried out occasionally in the UK showing that DDT can persist for many years. Analysis of 203 samples of mostly renal fat showed 99% contained detectable residues of DDT (see table 3)(24). Many of the levels found are above effect-level exposures required to elicit a carcinogenic response in test animals (see mice studies above). They are also well above the life-time safety exposure limit ADI of 0.02 mg/kg body weight.
Resistance
Many insect species have developed resistance to DDT. The first cases of resistant flies were known to scientists as early as 1947, although this was not widely reported at the time(39). In the intervening years, resistance problems increased mostly because of over-use in agriculture. By 1984 a world survey showed that 233 species, mostly insects, were resistant to DDT(40). Today, with cross resistance to several insecticides, it is difficult to obtain accurate figures on the situation regarding the number of pest species resistant to DDT
40 years ago, in 1969, DDT was freely available world wide. Sweden banned the stuff from agricultural use in 1970; the U.S. followed with a ban on agricultural use of DDT, especially sprayed from airplanes. DDT for fighting malaria has always been a feature of the U.S. ban. As a pragmatic matter, DDT manufacture on U.S. shores continued for more than a dozen years after the restrictions on agricultural use of the stuff. In an ominous twist, manufacture in the U.S. continued through most of 1984, right up to the day the Superfund Act made it illegal to dump hazardous substances without having a plan to clean it up or money to pay for clean up — on that day the remaining manufacturing interests declared bankruptcy to avoid paying for the environmental damage they had done. See the Pine River, Michigan Superfund site, or the Palos Verdes and Montrose Chemical Superfund sites in California, the CIBA-Geigy plant in McIntosh, Alabama, and sites in Sand Creek, Colorado, Portland, Oregon, and Aberdeen, North Carolina, for examples.
http://www.ehs.ucsb.edu/units/labsfty/labrsc/lstoxicology.htm
TOXICITY RATING CHART (oral)
Toxicity Rating Oral Acute LD50 for Rats
Extremely toxic 1 mg/kg or less (e.g., dioxin, butulin toxin)
Highly toxic 1 to 50 mg/kg (e.g., strychnine)
Moderately toxic 50 to 500 mg/kg (e.g., DDT)
Slightly toxic 0.5 to 5 gm/kg (e.g., morphine)
Practically nontoxic 5 to 15 gm/kg (e.g., ethyl alcohol)
DDT was abandoned not because of greenies but because
it was becoming ineffective
It was killing other beneficial bugs.
the money dried up
It was being improperly applied

Jakers (16:29:57) :
How could a treaty ever override the constitution?
and
If the US wanted to abandon a treaty, any treaty, how would anyone prevent the US from just dropping it?
You are correct of course. Nobody could stop the US from just dropping it. But, the big problem is that in order to “just drop it” there will have to be a political will to do so. And, believe me, that’s where the problem will be. Once signed up, your politicians of both main parties will gradually be persuaded that it is in the US’s interest to remain committed to the treaty. Over time, the treaty will steadily change and strengthen. At each revision of the treaty, you (Joe Public) will be told that the change is only cosmetic and necessary to “tidy things up”. But, in reality, the treaty will be extending out from it’s original aims and encompassing more and more of your daily life (climate change is just the way in). More and more of the decisions about how your country is run will be made from the UN building rather than Capitol Hill. When you all finally realise what is going on and demand that your politicians pull back, you will be told how “it’s too late now” and they will tell you how pulling out now would destroy your economy and cost thousands and thousands of American jobs, etc, etc. It won’t happen quickly. This will be a very slow burn. But happen it will and this Copenhagen thing (or later treaty if this one doesn’t work out) will be the first step. Think it won’t happen? Look no further than us in the UK and Europe. We are about to get a European President and Foreign Minister etc, that none of us asked for, none of us got to vote for and yet who will, nonetheless, speak for us on the world stage. Short of armed insurrection, there is nothing we can do to stop it. Study how this was done over a period of nearly 50 years. Bit by bit by tiny bit. Read up on it. You need to. Because now it’s coming to America.

More good news that the word is getting out.

“Ron de Haan (13:25:12) :
It’s expensive and totally obsolete because they will achieve the same effect by increasing the tax on gasoline.”
Just increasing the tax on gas has 2 great disadvantages:
1) You do not need all these additional bureaucrats to administer it.
2) Many Dutch would just drive to Luxembourg, where the politicians are much smarter and the gas prices lower, and fill her up there. Which would greatly annoy the rest of Holland.
3) Do not forget: Holland is the place where they sell Marijuana in “coffee shops”.

DaveE (19:01:27) :
Dave,
There’s plenty of room over here if you ever wanted to move.

Collection of Monckton’s Works and Interviews:
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/LordMonckton.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/monckton2.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/moncktonav.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/moncktontheater.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/climatetheater.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/moncktonletter.html

The National Academy of Sciences concluded in 1965 that “in a little more than two decades, DDT had prevented 500 million [human] deaths that would otherwise have been inevitable.” The World Health Organization stated that DDT had “killed more insects and saved more people than any other substance.”

I think the National Academy pulled a typo on the number of people saved — at a million deaths a year, 500 million lives saved would take 500 years — but the important thing to know is that in that document, NAS said that DDT was so dangerous that, despite its value as a bug killer, it must be phased out and replaced.
Don’t you find it just a little odd that the only places where malaria has been eradicated are places that DDT is no longer used, and that where DDT is still used, malaria still runs rampant?

bill (18:13:22]
http://www.ehs.ucsb.edu/units/labsfty/labrsc/lstoxicology.htm
TOXICITY RATING CHART (oral)
Toxicity Rating Oral Acute LD50 for Rats
Extremely toxic 1 mg/kg or less (e.g., dioxin, butulin toxin)
Highly toxic 1 to 50 mg/kg (e.g., strychnine)
Moderately toxic 50 to 500 mg/kg (e.g., DDT)
Slightly toxic 0.5 to 5 gm/kg (e.g., morphine)
Practically nontoxic 5 to 15 gm/kg (e.g., ethyl alcohol)
I’d take this information with a very large grain of salt. The quote below is from the MSDS for morphine sulfate.
LD50 = 461 mg/kg (rat, oral), 600 mg/kg (mouse, oral). Human lethal dose by ingestion is 120-250 mg of morphine sulfate.

Admittedly Monckton overstates the case for the DDT ban’s culpability for the ensuing increase in malaria deaths and while he is not right about this neither is he entirely wrong. As I perceive it, Monckton has quite reasonably concluded that you don’t go into a gunfight armed with a knife, or, as those who still cling to the notion that rationality and pure science will save us from our doomed fate, a dull plastic spork. The alarmists despise him because he has successfully adopted their own hyperbolic propaganda techniques and uses them more artfully than they do themselves.
But make no mistake about this, the threat we face from the alarmists unfolding schemes is as great as anything short of a dozen of Bin Laden’s thugs roaming the countryside with a suitcase nuke per man. We need every ally we can acquire in this struggle and if you are inclined to dismiss people arguing your side because they might besmirch the escutcheon of “pure science” I’ve got news for you. That ship has already sailed. “Scientists” are widely, and probably rightly, perceived as the whores of the Age, who, if you have a large enough satchel of grant money, will produce a study for you to support whatever agenda you have in mind.
The leftists have never had a problem with this, as you will recognize if you’ve observed any of the history of the last 50 years. No matter how scandal ridden or despicable their comrades are, they never go under the bus until their usefulness has ended.
I hope you will excuse the tone of this rant, but I’ve found myself increasingly angered by the almost Stockholm Syndrome like tendency of many here to adopt the rhetorical framework of the alarmists. We don’t need to be arguing about who’s a peer or who is peer reviewed, we need to be concerned about our freedom and our lives, and those of our children and grandchildren. Because if these people succeed in implementing their plans, and despite the apparent turn in the tide of public opinion I see no reason to be too sanguine about the chances that they won’t, the lives our descendants face in the future will be much different and much diminished from the lives we’ve enjoyed.
Back to the point I had originally intended to make when I started typing this, here is a rather large nugget from WHO’s archives.
WHO gives indoor use of DDT a clean bill of health for controlling malaria
WHO promotes indoor spraying with insecticides as one of three main interventions to fight malaria
15 SEPTEMBER 2006 | WASHINGTON, D.C. — Nearly thirty years after phasing out the widespread use of indoor spraying with DDT and other insecticides to control malaria, the World Health Organization (WHO) today announced that this intervention will once again play a major role in its efforts to fight the disease. WHO is now recommending the use of indoor residual spraying (IRS) not only in epidemic areas but also in areas with constant and high malaria transmission, including throughout Africa.
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“The scientific and programmatic evidence clearly supports this reassessment,” said Dr Anarfi Asamoa-Baah, WHO Assistant Director-General for HIV/AIDS, TB and Malaria. “Indoor residual spraying is useful to quickly reduce the number of infections caused by malaria-carrying mosquitoes. IRS has proven to be just as cost effective as other malaria prevention measures, and DDT presents no health risk when used properly.”
WHO actively promoted indoor residual spraying for malaria control until the early 1980s when increased health and environmental concerns surrounding DDT caused the organization to stop promoting its use and to focus instead on other means of prevention. Extensive research and testing has since demonstrated that well-managed indoor residual spraying programmes using DDT pose no harm to wildlife or to humans.
“We must take a position based on the science and the data,” said Dr Arata Kochi, Director of WHO’s Global Malaria Programme. “One of the best tools we have against malaria is indoor residual house spraying. Of the dozen insecticides WHO has approved as safe for house spraying, the most effective is DDT.”
Indoor residual spraying is the application of long-acting insecticides on the walls and roofs of houses and domestic animal shelters in order to kill malaria-carrying mosquitoes that land on these surfaces.
“Indoor spraying is like providing a huge mosquito net over an entire household for around-the-clock protection,” said U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, a leading advocate for global malaria control efforts. “Finally, with WHO’s unambiguous leadership on the issue, we can put to rest the junk science and myths that have provided aid and comfort to the real enemy – mosquitoes – which threaten the lives of more than 300 million children each year.”
Views about the use of insecticides for indoor protection from malaria have been changing in recent years. Environmental Defense, which launched the anti-DDT campaign in the 1960s, now endorses the indoor use of DDT for malaria control, as does the Sierra Club and the Endangered Wildlife Trust. The recently-launched President’s Malaria Initiative (PMI) announced last year that it would also fund DDT spraying on the inside walls of households to prevent the disease.
“I anticipate that all 15 of the country programs of President Bush’s $1.2 billion commitment to cut malaria deaths in half will include substantial indoor residual spraying activities, including many that will use DDT,” said Admiral R. Timothy Ziemer, Coordinator of the President’s Malaria Initiative. “Because it is relatively inexpensive and very effective, USAID supports the spraying of homes with insecticides as a part of a balanced, comprehensive malaria prevention and treatment program. “
Programmatic evidence shows that correct and timely use of indoor residual spraying can reduce malaria transmission by up to 90 percent. In the past, India was able to use DDT effectively in indoor residual spraying to cut dramatically the number of malaria cases and fatalities. South Africa has again re-introduced DDT for indoor residual spraying to keep malaria case and fatality numbers at all-time low levels and move towards malaria elimination. Today, 14 countries in Sub-Saharan Africa are using IRS and 10 of those are using DDT.
At today’s news conference, the World Health Organization also called on all malaria control programmes around the world to develop and issue a clear statement outlining their position on indoor spraying with long-lasting insecticides such as DDT, specifying where and how spraying will be implemented in accordance with WHO guidelines, and how they will provide all possible support to accelerate and manage this intervention effectively.
“All development agencies and endemic countries need to act in accordance with WHO’s position on the use of DDT for indoor residual spraying,” said Richard Tren, Director of Africa Fighting Malaria. “Donors in particular need to help WHO provide technical and programmatic support to ensure these interventions are used properly.”
Indoor residual spraying is one of the main interventions WHO is now promoting to control and eliminate malaria globally. A second is the widespread use of insecticide-treated mosquito nets. While the use of bed nets has long been encouraged by WHO, the recent development of “long-lasting insecticidal nets” (LLINs) has dramatically improved their usefulness. Unlike their predecessors, the long-lasting nets need not be re-dipped in buckets of insecticide every six months as they remain effective for up to five years without retreatment.
Finally, for those who do ultimately become sick with malaria, more effective medicines are increasingly becoming available. Unlike previous antimalarials that have been rendered useless in many regions due to drug resistance, Artemisinin Combination Therapies (ACTs) are now recommended. These lifesaving medications are becoming more widely available throughout the world. In January of this year, WHO took stringent measures to help prevent future resistance to antimalarial medicines by banning the use of malaria monotherapy. An example of the negative consequences of drug resistance is apparent in the threat it poses to intermittent preventive treatment in pregnancy (IPTp), a crucial strategic intervention to protect pregnant women from the consequences of malaria.
Potential funding to scale up the availability of all three of these strategic interventions has dramatically increased over the past few years through the inception of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, TB and Malaria, World Bank plans to significantly increase its funding for malaria, and the launch of the President’s Malaria Initiative.
“With serious money finally becoming available to fight malaria, it is more imperative than ever that WHO provides sound technical guidance and programme assistance to ensure timely and effective use of these resources,” said Dr Kochi.
Each year, more than 500 million people suffer from acute malaria, resulting in more than 1 million deaths. At least 86 percent of these deaths are in sub-Saharan Africa. Globally an estimated 3,000 children and infants die from malaria every day and 10,000 pregnant women die from malaria in Africa every year. Malaria disproportionately affects poor people, with almost 60 percent of malaria cases occurring among the poorest 20 percent of the world’s population.
For more information contact:
In Washington, DC:
Jim Palmer at 1 (202) 262-9823
In Geneva:
Ed Vela at +41 22 791-4550 or Shiva Murugasampillay at +41 22 791-1019

Lord Monckton also does a monthly CO2 Report –
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monthly_report/
at SPPI –
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/
He’s a beacon of light in a dark night, evidenced by the swarm of eco warriors who’ve suddenly descended to malign him based, as far as I can see, on one actual error, later corrected, and an endless supply of bile.

Thing is, like I’ve always said, the world always revolves around dualities (left and right poltics) and it is becoming more apparent that this is true. In Australia, Monckton was just interviewed by conservative D.J Alan Jones. Previously he was on Glenn Beck and I suspect others. Also, our most outspoken skeptic is conservative Herald-Sun journalist Andrew Bolt.
I’m all for the abolishment of this prehistoric AGW superstition but as predicted, it will be the right who is putting up the fight and the focus will eventually be reduced to partisan politics; as it has always been.
It was stubborn, blind, single mindedness that got us into this predicament in the first place and although I agree that any resolution is better than socialized government (because that’s what this is really about- absolute control), I feel that the dafault two-party political setting is horribly flawed and the death of AGW will become a conservative victory rather than the impartial overview of hysteria which it deserves.
Overall, we will have learnt nothing from this chapter of history if we cling to bi-partisan politics. The ideology reigns.

Bill, I often wondered about that. I guess DDT used on mosquitoes appeared better than doing nothing but in reality, it was simply holding back the flood gates of imminent malaria fatalities until resistance occurred. In other words it was pretty much a stop gap.
I use predatory mites on ornamentals because other broad spectrum sprays kill predetors and make mite populations peak. Same with stuff like Spinosad on caterpillars.
It takes some work though. Usually mite populations are so out of control and must be sprayed with a selective miticide first, otherwise preds are outnumbered.
I don’t consider myself a greenie. Toxic insecticides just don’tprovide a long term solution.

Monckton published an extract from Ian Wishart’s book Air Con dealing with “The Real Agenda” behind the climate change PR campaign.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/commentaries/seriously_inconvenient_truth.pdf
It’ll stun you.

Ron de Haan (13:25:12) :
I am confident that many Dutch won’t like the idea either.
The ones who will hit hardest by this plan are those work, like me, this is going to cost me around 5-6% of my salary, and since the provinces are going to miss income from the road tax (wich will disappear because of this) so they will raise their money with new taxes, all in all with unforseen circumstances the loss of income could run into 10-12%.
And this is only about car-use, there is more on the horizon.
Its nice being green and red, NOT

While Lord Monckton’s warning should be taken seriously, he is misleading on three points:
(1) Every treaty must be ratified by the US Senate by a 2/3 vote. It is doubtful that the treaty contemplated at Copenhagen could muster that kind of support.
(2) No treaty is enforceable if it contradicts the Constitution of the United States.
(3) The United States may abrogate a treaty at any time.
Fortunately, nothing is going to come out of Copenhagen. And we’ll have to make sure nothing like it comes out of the next meeting, too.
/Mr Lynn

The best way to counter the almost religious fervor associated with the claim of anthropogenic global warming is through the consistent and persistent presentation of proper science and data as this website so admirably does. Lord Monkton while eloquent and persuasive on the science erodes his credibility in his admonition about the US ceding its sovereignty at Copenhagen. That simply won’t and can’t happen given that Congress must ratify any treaty that would bind the US. If all remain true to the science behind the issue without resorting to scare tactics of our own, we have a much better chance of exposing the weakness of the AGW case.

Please, stay away from anything similar to a “European Union”-style “Treaty”!
Today in Italy, 80% of all “our” laws and regolations are imposed by EU.
We have no more a sovereignty!!!!

“Davis warns now is not the time for treaty opponents to rest on their laurels.”
If one looks at the flow of climate research funding, it is 100% CLEAR that “resting on laurels” is EXACTLY what is happening.
Invest in the troops – or lose the war.

Some stuff that you all may not know. Lord Monckton has a sister, Rosa, who was a close friend of Princess Diana. Rosa Monckton is married to Dominic Lawson, a journalist and former editor of The Sunday Telegraph. Dominic’s father is Nigel Lawson, now Lord Lawson, former Chancellor of the Exchequer and Secretary of State for Energy in Margaret Thatcher’s Government. Nigel Lawson is the author of ‘An Appeal to Reason, A Cool Look at Global Warming’ which is a very readable anti-AGW volume.

Here is the direct Youtube link:

Bill from Pittsburgh (06:08:45) :
The best way to counter the almost religious fervor associated with the claim of anthropogenic global warming is through the consistent and persistent presentation of proper science and data as this website so admirably does.
Unfortunately Bill the populace needs to be led to proper science, Lord Monkton achieves that aim, the small inaccuracies in his lectures are irrelevant.

OT but any one who wants to write to Australian politicians about the climate, Copenhagen treaty etc their email addresses are linked here for ease,
http://www.stevefielding.com.au/forums/viewthread/466/
I have started receiving responses form a number of them – the National Party are very much skeptics, Labor Party say Im wrong but at least discuss (good to engage them on the facts as you have to remember they are only told limited data) and the Liberals are all over the place.

Also read this:
Nov 17, 2009
“Global Warming” – a Debate at Last
By Christopher Monckton
http://www.icecap.us
And download a wonderful pdf file on the subject.

Paul Vaughan (01:35:09) :
“Interesting. Never heard anything about it.”
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Ken Gregory (05:54:20) “Have you heard about our radio ad blitz in 15 Canadian cities? Hear our ads at http://www.friendsofscience.org/ “
Ken, thanks for letting me know.
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I flip the dial all hours of the day in Vancouver. I’ve not yet heard these ads on any of the dominant stations here.
For any future rounds of ads I would advise caution regarding mention of the “quiet sun” and “whether or not” there has been warming in the past decade.
Partial Elaboration:
It is important that the public understand that warming happens for natural reasons (& that solar-terrestrial relations are complex). It is also very important to alert the public to the alarmist tactic of conflating warming with anthropogenic warming, as if natural variation can only cause temporary cooling and is no longer capable of causing natural warming.
Aside:
The primary issue I see (i.e. the screaming weak [actually nonexistent] link) is the untenable assumption of randomness in statistical inference on solar/geophysical spatiotemporal series …but I realize (!) that isn’t necessarily a message that can be crafted to resonate with the general public under the constraints of 30 second air-wave blasts.
Cheers,
Paul.

check this out- try to get the lowest score. hilarious. “air travel is…” “how much did hurricane katrina cost….” trust me there are some trick questions. getting zero can actually be a challenage.
tbf have writen to oxfam and complained about this waste of internet space.
http://www.theclimatechallenge.org/

In norwegian newspaper-blogs, teenagers are discussing to ban air-travel for holidays and such.
The teachers are on to them with AGW alarmist stuff on a daily basis.
When they grow up, there will be hell to pay.
Its like a coming horde of green Hitler youth…..

Monckton is truly awesome & he is right about most things, particularly this AGW for Global Governmant scam. Cma you imagine, a Marxist Socialist lead World Government, moulded on the ghastly European Union model, i.e. no democracy just self-enriching self-promoting politicos taxing us all to death. They’ll be so busy sefl-promoting themselves that they will not see the reality of an Ice-Age creeping up around the corner.
OT. After spending a few hundred quid on my darling daughter’s new car, I sat down in the late afternoon yesterday & watched a 70’s sci-fi thriller, I caught it mid stream where there were all these weirdy block-robed mutant humans sitting in a makeshift court room, with a poor fella manacled & shackled head & toe spreadeageld on the floor in front of the baddy leader, who was lording it over this poor fella & ranting on like a bible-bashing preacher, that he “had knowledge of the use of the wheel” & other such machines of humanity, that had allegedly caused their current predicament, for which this poor fella was unfortunately to be sentenced to death. I have to admit that I at first thought this was a live broadcast from a side-show at Copenhagen for few minutes (the shape of things to come no doubt?). Then of course it dawned me that it was only a film after all, the wonderful Omega Man (original, sorry to Will Smith) with the gr8 (blast that texting daughter of mine) Charlton Heston, with the wonderful Anthony Zerbe as the chief baddy! What a relief that was, although I dare say that’s where Greenpeace (Redwar) gets its scripts from!

. . . but one must take heed when the treety actually talks about an unelected, international governing body that has political and financial power over our country.

And you can bet your sweet burro people would, especially the bankers and big investors, were that the case. It’s not the case, though, is it. No, you can’t find it in the treaty, can you.
One World is a frequent flyer plan, not a political conspiracy.