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	<title>Comments on: Gore has no clue &#8211; a few million degrees here and there and pretty soon we&#8217;re talking about real temperature</title>
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		<title>By: Neil Craig</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-266269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps David, you would care to give us an example of any sceptic deliberately &quot;clouding the truth&quot; as much as Gore has done repeatedly. Or 1/10th as much. Or 1/100th as much.

Thought not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps David, you would care to give us an example of any sceptic deliberately &#8220;clouding the truth&#8221; as much as Gore has done repeatedly. Or 1/10th as much. Or 1/100th as much.</p>
<p>Thought not.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pope</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-266210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like a hungry baby grabbing at his mother&#039;s nipple...so many writers here grab on to Gore&#039;s error and use it to expound their own rigid beliefs.  Both sides of the Climate debate cloud the truth...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a hungry baby grabbing at his mother&#8217;s nipple&#8230;so many writers here grab on to Gore&#8217;s error and use it to expound their own rigid beliefs.  Both sides of the Climate debate cloud the truth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Morin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Morin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much carbon reduction is needed to reduce the temperature to the UN target?

Answer: A minimum of 80 years without electricity and without fuel (no heat, no cooking, no cars, no trucks, no tractors, no planes).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKCyk_DhVI 

Follow the money....

“The carbon market in the US is expected to be trillions of dollars by 2015, and the technology we are offering is as little as 10% to half of that number”.  Earning only 10% of a trillion represents an income of 100 billions a year, which is twice the total wealth of Bill Gates.  Guess who is behind this corporation, to become a trillionaire?

You also have to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuifVNofEtk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much carbon reduction is needed to reduce the temperature to the UN target?</p>
<p>Answer: A minimum of 80 years without electricity and without fuel (no heat, no cooking, no cars, no trucks, no tractors, no planes).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKCyk_DhVI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKCyk_DhVI</a> </p>
<p>Follow the money&#8230;.</p>
<p>“The carbon market in the US is expected to be trillions of dollars by 2015, and the technology we are offering is as little as 10% to half of that number”.  Earning only 10% of a trillion represents an income of 100 billions a year, which is twice the total wealth of Bill Gates.  Guess who is behind this corporation, to become a trillionaire?</p>
<p>You also have to watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuifVNofEtk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuifVNofEtk</a></p>
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		<title>By: lyle Baei</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lyle Baei]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After inventing the internet, Al has now discovered the actual source
of global warming; vertical heat flow from the &#039;million&#039; degree
source at 2 km depth. My feet are getting warmer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After inventing the internet, Al has now discovered the actual source<br />
of global warming; vertical heat flow from the &#8216;million&#8217; degree<br />
source at 2 km depth. My feet are getting warmer.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmicconservative</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-258647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cosmicconservative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This stuff is hilarious. Even if we were to build geothermal power stations (forgetting Gore&#039;s incredible million degree ignorance) it would only be a short time before geo-cooling alarmists would come out of the woodwork telling us of the dire calamities awaiting us for sucking the heat out the the poor bosom of mother earth.

I keep telling people, this isn&#039;t about science, it&#039;s not about climate and it&#039;s not about energy. It&#039;s about controlling every aspect of your personal lives under the guise of &quot;taking care of you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stuff is hilarious. Even if we were to build geothermal power stations (forgetting Gore&#8217;s incredible million degree ignorance) it would only be a short time before geo-cooling alarmists would come out of the woodwork telling us of the dire calamities awaiting us for sucking the heat out the the poor bosom of mother earth.</p>
<p>I keep telling people, this isn&#8217;t about science, it&#8217;s not about climate and it&#8217;s not about energy. It&#8217;s about controlling every aspect of your personal lives under the guise of &#8220;taking care of you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Rager</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-258560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Rager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He sure looks that way, but as a con man and a son of a con man, he knows how to work the marks.

And if you&#039;ve bought into AGW, you&#039;re a mark.

Say, I have this ocean front property in Arizona, if any of you Leftards are interested...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He sure looks that way, but as a con man and a son of a con man, he knows how to work the marks.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;ve bought into AGW, you&#8217;re a mark.</p>
<p>Say, I have this ocean front property in Arizona, if any of you Leftards are interested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: londo</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-256220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[londo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well. You have to hand it to him. He&#039;s taking the global warming thing very seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. You have to hand it to him. He&#8217;s taking the global warming thing very seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Anurag</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-254380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anurag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok, I saw it and here is what he said.

2km or so below ground at some places they are very hot rocks, because you know the Earth&#039;s core is extremely hot, several millions of degrees.

For people who have trouble understanding, he was saying that since the Earth&#039;s core is hot to the order of several millions of degrees, 2km below ground is very hot. He never said or intended to say the 2km down the Earth is millions of degrees hot.

However, the Earth&#039;s core temperature is not that much and most reasonable estimate it to about 10000 degrees or on that order of magnitude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, I saw it and here is what he said.</p>
<p>2km or so below ground at some places they are very hot rocks, because you know the Earth&#8217;s core is extremely hot, several millions of degrees.</p>
<p>For people who have trouble understanding, he was saying that since the Earth&#8217;s core is hot to the order of several millions of degrees, 2km below ground is very hot. He never said or intended to say the 2km down the Earth is millions of degrees hot.</p>
<p>However, the Earth&#8217;s core temperature is not that much and most reasonable estimate it to about 10000 degrees or on that order of magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey TomB, hope you&#039;re reading. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1231385/Safety-concerns-deal-blow-Governments-plans-expand-nuclear-power.html

When are you going to get the message Tom, eh?  They aren&#039;t safe - even the new ones which you told us all were safe.

To all the others who are, well, intellectually challenged, read Roger Sowell&#039;s links above before you comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey TomB, hope you&#8217;re reading. <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1231385/Safety-concerns-deal-blow-Governments-plans-expand-nuclear-power.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1231385/Safety-concerns-deal-blow-Governments-plans-expand-nuclear-power.html</a></p>
<p>When are you going to get the message Tom, eh?  They aren&#8217;t safe &#8211; even the new ones which you told us all were safe.</p>
<p>To all the others who are, well, intellectually challenged, read Roger Sowell&#8217;s links above before you comment.</p>
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		<title>By: ALWHO?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ALWHO?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/BnFJ8cHAlco/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: slayer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, I&#039;m no fan of AlGore, but he didn&#039;t say it was millions of degrees two kilometers down. There are two separate statements there. 
That being said, the real issue is the hacked emails which prove quite clearly, that this bunch is in collusion to screw us out of major $$ and now that the source code is being analyzed, that doesn&#039;t look too good either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I&#8217;m no fan of AlGore, but he didn&#8217;t say it was millions of degrees two kilometers down. There are two separate statements there.<br />
That being said, the real issue is the hacked emails which prove quite clearly, that this bunch is in collusion to screw us out of major $$ and now that the source code is being analyzed, that doesn&#8217;t look too good either.</p>
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		<title>By: Fourth Stooge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fourth Stooge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The science is settled.  Most leading scientists agree that the atmosphere is heating from within the core of the earth.  We shall all be vaporized in the next several seconds....

Oops, too late.  We&#039;re all dead....  Should have listened to Algore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The science is settled.  Most leading scientists agree that the atmosphere is heating from within the core of the earth.  We shall all be vaporized in the next several seconds&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oops, too late.  We&#8217;re all dead&#8230;.  Should have listened to Algore.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depth[km] 	Component Layer

(0–60 	        Lithosphere) 
0–35 	        Crust
(35–60 	        Upper mantle) 
35–2890 	        Mantle
100–700 	        Asthenosphere
2890–5100 	Outer core
5100–6378 	Inner core 

Bet Big-Al wish he had Googled &quot;Earth&quot; before stating that the mantle begins only 2km below our feet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depth[km] 	Component Layer</p>
<p>(0–60 	        Lithosphere)<br />
0–35 	        Crust<br />
(35–60 	        Upper mantle)<br />
35–2890 	        Mantle<br />
100–700 	        Asthenosphere<br />
2890–5100 	Outer core<br />
5100–6378 	Inner core </p>
<p>Bet Big-Al wish he had Googled &#8220;Earth&#8221; before stating that the mantle begins only 2km below our feet.</p>
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		<title>By: OilIsMastery</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/gore-has-no-clue-a-few-million-degrees-here-and-there-and-pretty-soon-were-talking-about-real-temperature/#comment-230576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OilIsMastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...no matter what the temperature of the outer core is, and most likely it is quite high, the mantle is cold, and its rigidity increases with depth, because otherwise seismic wave velocity cannot increase with depth, for example for P waves from 6-7 km/sec in the surface layers to about 14 km/sec at the mantle-core boundary.&quot; -- Stavros T. Tassos, seismologist, October 2008]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;no matter what the temperature of the outer core is, and most likely it is quite high, the mantle is cold, and its rigidity increases with depth, because otherwise seismic wave velocity cannot increase with depth, for example for P waves from 6-7 km/sec in the surface layers to about 14 km/sec at the mantle-core boundary.&#8221; &#8212; Stavros T. Tassos, seismologist, October 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kirkland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Kirkland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would really like to see the EPA-OBD II Annual Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law that Al Gore helped to pass, closely examined and changed.As it stands right now, it is entirely possible for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to fail it&#039;s Emissions Inspection, for not emitting enough polluting Exhaust Emissions ! All such Vehicles have on board Oxygen [O2] Exhaust Sensors.These O2 Sensors are set up to detect a level of polluting Exhaust Emissions that would indicate that Gasoline is being consumed by an Engine at 14.7 parts of Air to 1 part of Fuel.If there is a low level of Oxygen, and a high level of Pollution, a Vehicle will fail it&#039;s Emissions Inspection as well it should.But Gasoline can be safely vaporized into a mixture that is 100 parts of Air to 1 part of Fuel.With this, even the largest SUV could easily get 50 + MPG and emit a fraction of the Emissions of a conventional 14.7/1 Fuel System, with an increase in Power, and much longer Engine life.I&#039;m not the first to figure this out.Far from it ! For proof, do a search on [the late] Tom Ogle, and Charles Nelson Pogue.Then, go to http://energy21.freeservers.com/bookrep.html and scan down the page to just before the update.But even if it is not to be believed that Fuel Vaporization is entirely possible, it&#039;s illegal to even attempt to do so with any Vehicle from 1996 to the present.O2 Sensors are set up to detect that Fuel is being consumed at 14.7/1. A mixture of 100 / 1 will not emit enough Polluting Exhaust Emissions to register on O2 Sensors.When such a Vehicle is connected to an OBD II Emissions Inspection Analyzer, an O2 Sensor Failure Code will be generated, which will result in a failed Emissions Inspection.O2 Sensor Exemptions are permitted for Vehicles that have been legally converted to operate on Natural Gas, Propane, or Hydrogen, and are Registered as such.But not for vaporized Gasoline.Thus, it is entirely possible under this EPA-OBD II Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to fail it&#039;s Emissions Test for not emitting enough polluting Exhaust Emissions ! As long as this insane 14.7/1 Law  that only benefits Big Oil  remains in effect, the only way to make Vehicles more &quot;efficient&quot; will be to make them lighter, and smaller.This has got to change ! I have asked the Question many times ; &quot;Why is it illegal for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to emit too little polluting Exhaust Emissions&quot;? So far, not one Big Oil Executive, Politician, or Concerned Environmentalist can, or will answer the Question.Those that have bothered to reply can&#039;t seem to come up with an Answer either.Can you ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would really like to see the EPA-OBD II Annual Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law that Al Gore helped to pass, closely examined and changed.As it stands right now, it is entirely possible for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to fail it&#8217;s Emissions Inspection, for not emitting enough polluting Exhaust Emissions ! All such Vehicles have on board Oxygen [O2] Exhaust Sensors.These O2 Sensors are set up to detect a level of polluting Exhaust Emissions that would indicate that Gasoline is being consumed by an Engine at 14.7 parts of Air to 1 part of Fuel.If there is a low level of Oxygen, and a high level of Pollution, a Vehicle will fail it&#8217;s Emissions Inspection as well it should.But Gasoline can be safely vaporized into a mixture that is 100 parts of Air to 1 part of Fuel.With this, even the largest SUV could easily get 50 + MPG and emit a fraction of the Emissions of a conventional 14.7/1 Fuel System, with an increase in Power, and much longer Engine life.I&#8217;m not the first to figure this out.Far from it ! For proof, do a search on [the late] Tom Ogle, and Charles Nelson Pogue.Then, go to <a href="http://energy21.freeservers.com/bookrep.html" rel="nofollow">http://energy21.freeservers.com/bookrep.html</a> and scan down the page to just before the update.But even if it is not to be believed that Fuel Vaporization is entirely possible, it&#8217;s illegal to even attempt to do so with any Vehicle from 1996 to the present.O2 Sensors are set up to detect that Fuel is being consumed at 14.7/1. A mixture of 100 / 1 will not emit enough Polluting Exhaust Emissions to register on O2 Sensors.When such a Vehicle is connected to an OBD II Emissions Inspection Analyzer, an O2 Sensor Failure Code will be generated, which will result in a failed Emissions Inspection.O2 Sensor Exemptions are permitted for Vehicles that have been legally converted to operate on Natural Gas, Propane, or Hydrogen, and are Registered as such.But not for vaporized Gasoline.Thus, it is entirely possible under this EPA-OBD II Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to fail it&#8217;s Emissions Test for not emitting enough polluting Exhaust Emissions ! As long as this insane 14.7/1 Law  that only benefits Big Oil  remains in effect, the only way to make Vehicles more &#8220;efficient&#8221; will be to make them lighter, and smaller.This has got to change ! I have asked the Question many times ; &#8220;Why is it illegal for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to emit too little polluting Exhaust Emissions&#8221;? So far, not one Big Oil Executive, Politician, or Concerned Environmentalist can, or will answer the Question.Those that have bothered to reply can&#8217;t seem to come up with an Answer either.Can you ?</p>
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