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		<title>By: LoonnaSkymn</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-242634</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will someone let me know how hard to win a Pell Grant?

Supposedly this is an [url=http://ezinearticles.com/?Easy-Scholarships---How-Anyone-Can-Get-an-Easy-$10,000-Scholarship&amp;id=3321084]easy scholarship.[/url]  Has anyone heard anything about it or had any luck with this?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will someone let me know how hard to win a Pell Grant?</p>
<p>Supposedly this is an [url=http://ezinearticles.com/?Easy-Scholarships---How-Anyone-Can-Get-an-Easy-$10,000-Scholarship&amp;id=3321084]easy scholarship.[/url]  Has anyone heard anything about it or had any luck with this?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: puckencoupe</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-231314</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could not find a suitable section so I written here, how to become a moderator for your forum, that need for this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could not find a suitable section so I written here, how to become a moderator for your forum, that need for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert E. Phelan</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-227049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert E. Phelan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Devastating riposte, Eddie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devastating riposte, Eddie.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Murphy</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-226644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, excuse me, but I wonder if you guys have ever traveled the USA extensively? That heritage.org appears a joke to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, excuse me, but I wonder if you guys have ever traveled the USA extensively? That heritage.org appears a joke to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Eddie Murphy (09:23:13) : 
11-17-2009: Record Numbers Go Hungry In The U.S. Says Report

President Barack Obama, who pledged to eradicate childhood hunger,&lt;/i&gt;

I can only quote the late LBJ:
 
(Great Society speech) It demands an end to poverty and racial injustice, to which we are totally committed in our time.

How&#039;d that work for you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Eddie Murphy (09:23:13) :<br />
11-17-2009: Record Numbers Go Hungry In The U.S. Says Report</p>
<p>President Barack Obama, who pledged to eradicate childhood hunger,</i></p>
<p>I can only quote the late LBJ:</p>
<p>(Great Society speech) It demands an end to poverty and racial injustice, to which we are totally committed in our time.</p>
<p>How&#8217;d that work for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Eddie Murphy&lt;/b&gt;:

If people don&#039;t have enough to eat, it is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; the fault of other people&#039;s neglect. It is entirely due to their own bad choices in life: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click&lt;/a&gt;

Click on the graphs for some interesting information. You will see that there are no truly &quot;poor&quot; people in America [poor meaning destitute, with no adequate source of nourishment]. Every person in this country is entitled to medical care, without any requirement for their ability to pay. The despicable canard that the &quot;poor&quot; [by which in America is meant only those less affluent than others [click on the charts in the link above] are denied food is Leftist propaganda.

And the UN should butt out. Due specifically to UN corruption, food shipped for the poor in other parts of the world never reached its intended recipients, but was instead sold by -- you guessed it -- UN personnel. The Oil-For-Food program filled the pockets of UN bureaucrats with $Billions. Kofi Annan was personally involved. And his successor, Ban Ki Moon, continues the same nepotism-based corruption. So please don&#039;t tell us that the UN&#039;s investigator cares a whit about the poor. He was attempting to engage in anti-U.S. propaganda, and was rightly refused entry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Eddie Murphy</b>:</p>
<p>If people don&#8217;t have enough to eat, it is <em>not</em> the fault of other people&#8217;s neglect. It is entirely due to their own bad choices in life: <a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm" rel="nofollow">click</a></p>
<p>Click on the graphs for some interesting information. You will see that there are no truly &#8220;poor&#8221; people in America [poor meaning destitute, with no adequate source of nourishment]. Every person in this country is entitled to medical care, without any requirement for their ability to pay. The despicable canard that the &#8220;poor&#8221; [by which in America is meant only those less affluent than others [click on the charts in the link above] are denied food is Leftist propaganda.</p>
<p>And the UN should butt out. Due specifically to UN corruption, food shipped for the poor in other parts of the world never reached its intended recipients, but was instead sold by &#8212; you guessed it &#8212; UN personnel. The Oil-For-Food program filled the pockets of UN bureaucrats with $Billions. Kofi Annan was personally involved. And his successor, Ban Ki Moon, continues the same nepotism-based corruption. So please don&#8217;t tell us that the UN&#8217;s investigator cares a whit about the poor. He was attempting to engage in anti-U.S. propaganda, and was rightly refused entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Murphy</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-226195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well if my first article didn&#039;t impress you...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/17/millions-hungry-households-us-report

11-17-2009: Record Numbers Go Hungry In The U.S. Says Report

More than a million children regularly go to bed hungry in the US, according to a government report that shows a startling increase in the number of families struggling to put food on the table. 

President Barack Obama, who pledged to eradicate childhood hunger, has described as &quot;unsettling&quot; the agriculture department survey, which says 50 million people in the US – one in six of the population – were unable to afford to buy sufficient food to stay healthy at some point last year, in large part because of escalating unemployment or poorly paid jobs. That is a rise of more than one-third on the year before and the highest number since the survey began in 1995.

The number of children living in households where there were shortages of food at times rose by nearly one-third to 17 million. The report says that most parents who did not get enough to eat ensured their offspring received sufficient food but that more than 1 million children still suffered outright hunger. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/un-investigator-us-neglect-homeless

11-12-2009: UN investigator accuses US of shameful neglect of homeless

A United Nations special investigator who was blocked from visiting the US by the Bush administration has accused the American government of pouring billions of dollars into rescuing banks and big business while treating as &quot;invisible&quot; a deepening homeless crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if my first article didn&#8217;t impress you&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/17/millions-hungry-households-us-report" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/17/millions-hungry-households-us-report</a></p>
<p>11-17-2009: Record Numbers Go Hungry In The U.S. Says Report</p>
<p>More than a million children regularly go to bed hungry in the US, according to a government report that shows a startling increase in the number of families struggling to put food on the table. </p>
<p>President Barack Obama, who pledged to eradicate childhood hunger, has described as &#8220;unsettling&#8221; the agriculture department survey, which says 50 million people in the US – one in six of the population – were unable to afford to buy sufficient food to stay healthy at some point last year, in large part because of escalating unemployment or poorly paid jobs. That is a rise of more than one-third on the year before and the highest number since the survey began in 1995.</p>
<p>The number of children living in households where there were shortages of food at times rose by nearly one-third to 17 million. The report says that most parents who did not get enough to eat ensured their offspring received sufficient food but that more than 1 million children still suffered outright hunger. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/un-investigator-us-neglect-homeless" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/un-investigator-us-neglect-homeless</a></p>
<p>11-12-2009: UN investigator accuses US of shameful neglect of homeless</p>
<p>A United Nations special investigator who was blocked from visiting the US by the Bush administration has accused the American government of pouring billions of dollars into rescuing banks and big business while treating as &#8220;invisible&#8221; a deepening homeless crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert E. Phelan</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-225989</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert E. Phelan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil Clarke (00:09:35) : 
I agree that Monckton’s demonstrable falsehood is a minor issue, I am more interested in the errors and fabrications in his ’science’ [ see links above - more here. ]. His defenders seem not to want to discuss these ….

Phil, you were the one who made a big deal out of what may NOT be a &quot;demonstrable falsehood&quot;.  I have no idea what Madame Lord Speaker&#039;s reply might be... but what I see from you is &quot;... slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch...&quot;  then you refer us to an NSFC satire as evidence?  

Phil, sorry, you are just a dishonest troll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Clarke (00:09:35) :<br />
I agree that Monckton’s demonstrable falsehood is a minor issue, I am more interested in the errors and fabrications in his ’science’ [ see links above - more here. ]. His defenders seem not to want to discuss these ….</p>
<p>Phil, you were the one who made a big deal out of what may NOT be a &#8220;demonstrable falsehood&#8221;.  I have no idea what Madame Lord Speaker&#8217;s reply might be&#8230; but what I see from you is &#8220;&#8230; slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch&#8230;&#8221;  then you refer us to an NSFC satire as evidence?  </p>
<p>Phil, sorry, you are just a dishonest troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert E. Phelan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert E. Phelan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rereke Whakaaro (17:03:49) :
Kia Ora Richard,
Richard (18:40:08) : 
Kia Ora Rereke

“Kia Ora”?  I gather that is not Maori for “hands up, sucker!”? A blessing for a greeting. Whodathunkit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rereke Whakaaro (17:03:49) :<br />
Kia Ora Richard,<br />
Richard (18:40:08) :<br />
Kia Ora Rereke</p>
<p>“Kia Ora”?  I gather that is not Maori for “hands up, sucker!”? A blessing for a greeting. Whodathunkit?</p>
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		<title>By: Tenuc</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/open-thread-3-2/#comment-225745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tenuc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jorgekafkazar (11:01:57) :
&quot;Interesting: A cruise ship has “encountered a large ice mass” in the Antarctic during “semi-circumnavigation” of the South Pole.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/aa_antarctic_cruise_ship&quot;

Thanks for the link.  After reading the article I&#039;m getting a bad vibe - old ship - thick floating ice - what happens when the wind starts to blow???

I hope all get back safely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jorgekafkazar (11:01:57) :<br />
&#8220;Interesting: A cruise ship has “encountered a large ice mass” in the Antarctic during “semi-circumnavigation” of the South Pole.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/aa_antarctic_cruise_ship" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/aa_antarctic_cruise_ship</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the link.  After reading the article I&#8217;m getting a bad vibe &#8211; old ship &#8211; thick floating ice &#8211; what happens when the wind starts to blow???</p>
<p>I hope all get back safely.</p>
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		<title>By: jorgekafkazar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jorgekafkazar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting: A cruise ship has &quot;encountered a large ice mass&quot; in the Antarctic during &quot;semi-circumnavigation&quot; of the South Pole.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/aa_antarctic_cruise_ship

The ship, a Finnish-made Russian craft, is the Kapitan Khlebnikov, apparently on her last voyage. Delay of up to a week is expected. No major scientific or political importance, just a reminder that Antarctica can rise up and bite you. &quot;Russian news agencies said a BBC camera crew filming a documentary about the Antarctic was also on board.&quot; How jolly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting: A cruise ship has &#8220;encountered a large ice mass&#8221; in the Antarctic during &#8220;semi-circumnavigation&#8221; of the South Pole.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/aa_antarctic_cruise_ship" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_bi_ge/aa_antarctic_cruise_ship</a></p>
<p>The ship, a Finnish-made Russian craft, is the Kapitan Khlebnikov, apparently on her last voyage. Delay of up to a week is expected. No major scientific or political importance, just a reminder that Antarctica can rise up and bite you. &#8220;Russian news agencies said a BBC camera crew filming a documentary about the Antarctic was also on board.&#8221; How jolly.</p>
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		<title>By: jorgekafkazar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jorgekafkazar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gene Nemetz (20:49:08) : &quot;It looks like JAXA Arctic ice is back on an expected track:

&quot;http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

&quot;I’m wondering if new ice was not recognized by satellite until it was thicker. Does anyone have the explanation for the jump today?&quot;

It&#039;s not a new ice/old ice issue. Apparently, air has been exchanged between the Arctic and the rest of the Northern Hemisphere, bringing snow and low temperatures to Canada, the US, and some parts of Europe and China. Conversely, warm air displaced from those areas has delayed freeze-up at the pole. A change in wind patterns has stopped this process. Look for higher freeze rates as the Arctic night descends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene Nemetz (20:49:08) : &#8220;It looks like JAXA Arctic ice is back on an expected track:</p>
<p>&#8220;http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m wondering if new ice was not recognized by satellite until it was thicker. Does anyone have the explanation for the jump today?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a new ice/old ice issue. Apparently, air has been exchanged between the Arctic and the rest of the Northern Hemisphere, bringing snow and low temperatures to Canada, the US, and some parts of Europe and China. Conversely, warm air displaced from those areas has delayed freeze-up at the pole. A change in wind patterns has stopped this process. Look for higher freeze rates as the Arctic night descends.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil Clarke (00:10:34) :

Many of the British Lords have taken exception to this Bill, still holding paper that provides them with membership in the House which have not been revoked by the authority under which they were given

&quot;Monckton was never made a member, so his membership cannot have been revoked.&quot;

As I understand it, he inherited membership, was &quot;made a member&quot; at that time. From a distance, one would expect that Lords are members of the House of Lords, by definition and purpose. Commoners never &quot;made&quot; Lords, or members of the House.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Clarke (00:10:34) :</p>
<p>Many of the British Lords have taken exception to this Bill, still holding paper that provides them with membership in the House which have not been revoked by the authority under which they were given</p>
<p>&#8220;Monckton was never made a member, so his membership cannot have been revoked.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I understand it, he inherited membership, was &#8220;made a member&#8221; at that time. From a distance, one would expect that Lords are members of the House of Lords, by definition and purpose. Commoners never &#8220;made&#8221; Lords, or members of the House.</p>
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		<title>By: beng</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beng]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asia&#039;s getting an early start to winter -- look at the huge area of snowcover all the way south to the Himalayans:

http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_asiaeurope.gif

The graphic changes every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asia&#8217;s getting an early start to winter &#8212; look at the huge area of snowcover all the way south to the Himalayans:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_asiaeurope.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_asiaeurope.gif</a></p>
<p>The graphic changes every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Clarke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Many of the British Lords have taken exception to this Bill, still holding paper that provides them with membership in the House which have not been revoked by the authority under which they were given&lt;/i&gt;

Monckton was never made a member, so his membership cannot have been revoked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Many of the British Lords have taken exception to this Bill, still holding paper that provides them with membership in the House which have not been revoked by the authority under which they were given</i></p>
<p>Monckton was never made a member, so his membership cannot have been revoked.</p>
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