Comments on: Lindzen and McIntyre’s Finnish TV interview – issues that US journalists fail to investigate

By: MOT

MOT — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:03:43 +0000

OK, I seriously have some kind of membering problems… For more links about the Finnish investigative journalism program MOT and its documentaries “Climate catastrophe cancelled” and “Cooling in the greenhouse”, check my previous posts.

The transcript in English for MOT: Cooling in the greenhouse (2008)

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/29_9_2008_mot_kylmaa_vetta_kasvihuoneeseen/manuscript_english

By: MOT

MOT — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:53:57 +0000

Eh, I forgot to add some links on my previous post (again) :)

These following links are related to the documentary named “MOT: Cooling in the greenhouse” (“Kylmää vettä kasvihuoneeseen” in Finnish) by reporter Martti Backman.

MOT’s full interview with Roy Spencer:

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/viikon_ohjelma/lisatietoa/roy_spencerin_haastattelu_huntsville_kesakuu_2008

MOT’s full interview with John Christy:

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/viikon_ohjelma/lisatietoa/john_christyn_haastattelu_alabaman_yliopistolla_kesakuu_2008

You can watch MOT: Cooling in the greenhouse here:

http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=4&ag=28&t=501&a=6215

By: MOT

MOT — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:17:09 +0000

I forgot to add these links on my previous post:

MOT: Cooling in the greenhouse with transcript in English:

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/mot_ilmastokatastrofi_peruutettu/transcript_english

MOT’s full interview with MIT professor Richard Lindzen:

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/mot_ilmastokatastrofi_peruutettu/richard_lindzen

The “home page” of MOT’s Cooling in the greenhouse:

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/mot_ilmastokatastrofi_peruutettu

By: MOT

MOT — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:56:33 +0000

ENGLISH SUBTITLES FOR THE MOT DOCUMENTARY (INCLUDES GERMAN AND NORWEGIAN SUBTITLES ALSO):

http://dotsub.com/view/19f9c335-b023-4a40-9453-a98477314bf2

The MOT reporter Martti Backman has made numerous climate skeptical documentaries since 1997.

One of the more recent ones is named MOT: Cooling in the greenhouse which was aired in 2008. In this documentary Mr. Backman interviews climate skeptical scientists Roy Spencer and John Christy.

You can watch MOT: Cooling in the greenhouse here for free (The program is located at YLE’s “Elävä arkisto” (“Living archive” in English):

http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=4&ag=28&t=501&a=6215

Some general info about the reporter Martti Backman in Finnish and his e-mail (use Google translator for example):

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/toimitus/martti_backman

By: apollo

apollo — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:06:29 +0000

I appreciate that you guys find my contribution helpful. To be honest when I saw this I edited it and put subtitles in 1 night without sleeping. A lot of thanks to Anthony for a great find. This sums up pretty much a huge discussion over fabricated data..

Keep up the good work!!

By: Philip Mulholland

Philip Mulholland — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:00:53 +0000

vg (14:58:16) : Here is the brilliant link you mention. A video version with English subtitles: http://dotsub.com/view/19f9c335-b023-4a40-9453-a98477314bf2 H/T to Jean S on CA.

By: vg

vg — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:58:16 +0000

Also there is an english subtitle version (see CA)

By: vg

vg — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:56:19 +0000

There is evidently a clear case for legal implications here if true

By: andersm

andersm — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:28 +0000

Carl Sagan, in his book ‘The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark” also extolled the exquisitely detailed and painstaking research by Johannes Kepler and his laws of planetary motion. These laws are still applicable today. Sagan then went on to say that Kepler, a believer in a heliocentric universe, was dead right on planetary motion, but dead wrong in his belief the sun orbited the earth. I think this applies to AGW. I’m sure some of the individual climate research by competent scientists proves singular issues that are true. However, in the broader context of proving AGW it is, as Sagan said about Kepler, dead wrong.

By: Steve in SC

Steve in SC — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:29:48 +0000

Anthony,
If you are comparing the “journalism” of this piece to 60 minutes it is a sad commentary indeed. 60 minutes has NEVER been about anything but “gotcha” hit pieces. They have ALWAYS been fraudulent and dishonest, even more so than some of the criminals they purport to expose. I know, I have seen it up close and personal (they weren’t after me). What they do with the truth is absolutely criminal. So to compare the Finnish folks to what 60 minutes used to be is a pretty severe insult to their integrity. I would hope you would reconsider that.

By: The Engineer

The Engineer — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:22:32 +0000

Just sent off my invitation to the “Alternative Climate Conferance” in Copenhagen on the 6 th of December. Hope I get tickets.

Smack, bang in the middle of COP15.

Looking forward to hearing:

Professor Roger A. Pielke Sr., Colorado Universitet.
Professor Ole Humlum, Oslo Universitet.
Professor Henrik Svensmark, DTU.
Dr. Steven McIntyre, ClimateAudit.
Lektor Bjarne Andresen, Københavns Universitet.
Senior scientist Jens Olaf Pepke Pedersen, DTU.
Lord Moncton, tidligere rådgiver for Margeret Thatcher.
Professor Fred Singer, Virginia Universitet.

From an englishman in Copenhagen.

By: IanM

IanM — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:52 +0000

twawki (14:56:23) wrote :

OT but here in Australia were finally starting to get some media play on the issue of climate facts and skepticism – more on my website
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When I clikced on “twawki” I got:

The webpage “go2.wordpress.com” cannot be found

By: cbullitt

cbullitt — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:27:41 +0000

As Crichton noted in his 2003 speech, Sagan was the manufacturer of the “nuclear winter” scenario, which, like the Drake equation, is utterly meaningless. He did understand TV and PR though.

BTW Anthony, as several of your readers enjoyed the hilarity I discovered in some of the Weblog Science nominations, I pass along this response I got related to RealClimate being nominated for Best Religion Blog.

http://cbullitt.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/the-gospel-of-mcgoo-unto-the-agw-mongers-giveth-the-finger/

By: Tomi Itkonen

Tomi Itkonen — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:02:58 +0000

“tokyoboy (16:04:04) :
Was this program aired, or still to be aired at 8:00 pm on November 11 local time in Finland?”

Nope. It was shown on Monday, November 9th at 8:00 pm.

By: Kate

Kate — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:11:19 +0000

TonyB (14:35:39) :

and

GeeMac (15:09:58) :

Thanks for the information. Finding accurate data about past or current sea levels is hard, and now I understand better why that is.