4 billion, You know very well that when it is very hot in Southern Australia that it is always caused by a particular position of the atmospheric highs and lows causing the wind to blow from the north bringing heat from the desert. It’s just a local phenomenon.

Sure, but the fact we have not has such a heatwave for 130 years, since records began, means that these Highs and Lows have never aligned in such a way over the period. On its own, no big thing, but taken in the context of other unprecedented alignments ie Snow in NZ and US at unheard of times, one gets the picture of Global changes occuring in the Atmospheric system.

Well, first off, you have yet to demonstrate that any change of climate is happening.

Expansion of Tropical zone is evidence of changing climate.
http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20090607-19385.html

There is no changing climate.

The “30 year average weather” is changing because there are 60 year, 180 year (roughly), and 1500 year cyclical processes in it. (See PDO, AMO, Bond Events and a few others…).

The unusual current weather events ie Snow occuring at unheard of times, heat waves at unheard of times ie Adelaide South Aus. is under a November heat wave, are ‘outside’ the cyclical fluctuations of the PDO and AMO, as the weather record extends back over a hundred years thus it is fair to say there is a extra effect driving these unusual weather patters.

The PDO has been weakening since 1989 and warming has still been occuring, the AMO has been strengthening since 1979 and seems to have reached its highest point. http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/pacific-decadal-oscillation-pdo-index-back-into-the-negative/#more-764, and warming has still been occuring

As the AMO drops off cooling may occur, maybe not, I tend to think not as bore hole temperature reconstruction for the last 400 years,http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/pollack.html shows that current temperatures are at their highest for the period, thus if current temperature is solely due to AMO and PDO fluctuations then current temperature should have been reached repeatedly in the last 400 years, as this time frame allows for a large number of cyclical fluctuations.

As a Bond event involves cooling, don’t quite see how it is aplicable to current situation.

It was way hotter in the ’30s, per my Dad, who is not still alive (though some others his age still are and do remember). It was colder than now in the ’70s but we seem headed back that way. Might I suggest you just have a short memory?…

What is your evidence to say that cooling is beginning?

where abouts on the NIWA site do they show the paleo record stuff?

Coops

Can’t tell from JAXA whether we are back down to the 2007 ice line for this date; but all these delays in the temperature down elevator are sure slowing down the ice growth.

Maybe it is all of those touring icebergs coming up to NZ from Antarctica that are cooling the place down.

If you can tow one of those big suckers up here to California, we could sure use the water.

Who moved my Global Warming :)

But seriously what is the ‘ for in Kiwi’s “”"

Don’t worry about the (‘), what you should be worried about is the (s).

There is no (s) in the Maori Language; therefore there is no such word as Kiwis or even Kiwi’s.

The plural of Kiwi, is Kiwi, same as the plural of ALL Maori words.

As I have mentioned on my blog, was that statement just intended to remove a rostrum away from Winston Peters, or was it sincere ?

http://mickysmuses.blogspot.com/

For those interested, NIWA temperature data shows very little warming trend for the country with near zero in the south island, whilst longer term paleo-reconstructions show a strong MWP with declining temperatures since (see Wilson et. al.; 1979, or Williams et al for example) and only a small upturn in recent times, no hockey sticks here!

Expecting guidance on climate, or even weather, from official sources now is a bit like a Cambodian peasant waiting for economic guidance from the Khmer Rouge. You’ll get lots of it, but wish you’d got none.

For these reasons and others, WUWT is now one of the most important places on the net.

By the way, where my tax-funded BOM boffin now?

Well, the government is globally minded, so it’s not necessary for AGW to be observed in NZ specifically. NZers are not good at staking out individualistic positions, in spite of our reputation for resourcefullness. Get along, go along is the way. We have “There is no planet B” posters to keep us mindful of our presumed responsibilities.

My own hobby horse is the integrity of the electrical grid. Ten years ago our biggest city Auckland went dark for two weeks because their electric board just assumed “she’ll be right”. Can’t say we’ve learned from that — the government has zero policies in place to maintain our grid. If we lost overseas parts we’d be down in no time.

Well, first off, you have yet to demonstrate that any change of climate is happening. I see Sahara staying a desert climate. I see California still a Mediterranean climate. Brazil is still tropical… I’m sorry, but until you move a mountain range, shift a continent a few thousand km, or do something else similar the geological determiners of climate zones seem pretty well fixed to me. And yes, it is geography and geology that determine climate zones. Not gasses. Not “30 year average weather” that is at best a bad joke when used as a proxy for climate and at worst, well, I can say or I’ll be snippied…

If not the increased Ocean/Land heat content, what is driving the changing climate?

There is no changing climate.

The “30 year average weather” is changing because there are 60 year, 180 year (roughly), and 1500 year cyclical processes in it. (See PDO, AMO, Bond Events and a few others…). Using “30 year average weather” as a proxy for climate is a very broken idea because you will periodically flip and flop between “ice age soon” and “global warming soon” every 30 or so years when the PDO flips and do even worse as the longer cycles flip and flop. And pray, just pray that the present cool flip is not Bond Even Zero ™…

So given that you have a broken premise, the only answer I can give is “mu”.

Changes to weather patterns currently seen have not occured in living memory,

Actually, reminds me a whole lot of the 1960-1970 era (and I was still alive last time I checked ;-)

It was way hotter in the ’30s, per my Dad, who is not still alive (though some others his age still are and do remember). It was colder than now in the ’70s but we seem headed back that way. Might I suggest you just have a short memory?…

hence records being broken across the Globe.

And always will be. This is just a mathematical artifact of how short a time we have measured and how limited a geography we have measured. It has been “way hotter” and “way colder” in the recorded historical past. They just didn’t have thermometers all over the place then and did not record the events as “records” with numbers. But rather as frozen seas, or hot droughts. “Those who forget their history are doomed to think it’s different this time. -e.m.smith”…

BTW, once you take some of the computer driven distortions out of the temperature history it’s rather flat… I can provide links to this if you like, but I suggest starting here:

http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/ghcn-the-global-analysis/

This is what The New Zealand Climate Science Coalition said back in 2007.
NIWA data confirms that New Zealand is not warming.
New Zealand may be no warmer in 2006 than it was in 1800. According to temperature records from NIWA, New Zealand has not experienced significant warming in the last 50 years.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0701/S00003.htm”

I recall reading an article on stuff.co.nz some years back now, 2002, maybe 2004 I don’t remember but basically a NZ “weather service” (Don’t recall the actual org name) stated that “weather” was no hotter nor cooler since about 1940. The article was pulled from stuff.co.nz within hours of it being published.

I guess with a change of Govn’t in NZ there’s less pressure for the MSM to ignore cooling stories in favour of warming ones.