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		<title>By: dennis ward</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-222552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dennis ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are people arguing that because the temperature anomaly has risen by 0.28 degrees, as has EVERY month this year, that the planet is cooling? What am I missing?

And hasn&#039;t the running 13month average been above 0.0  since 1995?

How can people not see this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people arguing that because the temperature anomaly has risen by 0.28 degrees, as has EVERY month this year, that the planet is cooling? What am I missing?</p>
<p>And hasn&#8217;t the running 13month average been above 0.0  since 1995?</p>
<p>How can people not see this?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tisdale</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-221121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Tisdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Finn: You wrote, &quot;I think Bob is probably correct, i.e. the fall in SST from the peak in July has stopped and SST are starting to rise again.&quot;

The latest weekly data is showing the downturn similar to Dr. Spencer&#039;s as noted above to Leone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Finn: You wrote, &#8220;I think Bob is probably correct, i.e. the fall in SST from the peak in July has stopped and SST are starting to rise again.&#8221;</p>
<p>The latest weekly data is showing the downturn similar to Dr. Spencer&#8217;s as noted above to Leone</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tisdale</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-221118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Tisdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leone (08:28:59) : You wrote, &quot;Pictures sent by Roy Spencer are more recent and AMSR-E shows diving.&quot;

Yes, you&#039;re right.  They were newer. I waited to reply until NOAA updated their weekly OI.v2 data.  Here&#039;s the global since 2000, for the week ending Nov 4.  It also shows the minor upswing and downturn, like Dr. Specer&#039;s data:
http://i34.tinypic.com/245wr6e.png]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leone (08:28:59) : You wrote, &#8220;Pictures sent by Roy Spencer are more recent and AMSR-E shows diving.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right.  They were newer. I waited to reply until NOAA updated their weekly OI.v2 data.  Here&#8217;s the global since 2000, for the week ending Nov 4.  It also shows the minor upswing and downturn, like Dr. Specer&#8217;s data:<br />
<a href="http://i34.tinypic.com/245wr6e.png" rel="nofollow">http://i34.tinypic.com/245wr6e.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Finn</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-220572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Finn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: SST plots

Can anyone confirm that Roy&#039;s AMSR-E SST data is the same as the &lt;b&gt; sea surface readings&lt;/b&gt; at 

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps

Using all data available as the base period (i.e. 2002-2009) I  get the following (approximate) anomalies for the most recent months 

Jul   +0.16
Aug  +0.11
Sep  +0.06
Oct  +0.04

These values seem to match up pretty well with the monthly SST plot above  
(plot 2 of 3). However,  my numbers disagree with the 3-day plot (plot 3 of 3).  Roy seems to have negative anomalies in late Oct/early Nov whereas my calculations give positive anomalies. I do, though, get negative anomalies between 29th Sep and 4th Oct.   

I was hoping to find a reason for the apparent discrepancy  between Bob Tisdale&#039;s plots and Roy&#039;s as commented upon by Leone.  I think Bob is probably correct, i.e. the fall in SST from the peak in July has stopped and SST are starting to rise again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: SST plots</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm that Roy&#8217;s AMSR-E SST data is the same as the <b> sea surface readings</b> at </p>
<p><a href="http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps" rel="nofollow">http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps</a></p>
<p>Using all data available as the base period (i.e. 2002-2009) I  get the following (approximate) anomalies for the most recent months </p>
<p>Jul   +0.16<br />
Aug  +0.11<br />
Sep  +0.06<br />
Oct  +0.04</p>
<p>These values seem to match up pretty well with the monthly SST plot above<br />
(plot 2 of 3). However,  my numbers disagree with the 3-day plot (plot 3 of 3).  Roy seems to have negative anomalies in late Oct/early Nov whereas my calculations give positive anomalies. I do, though, get negative anomalies between 29th Sep and 4th Oct.   </p>
<p>I was hoping to find a reason for the apparent discrepancy  between Bob Tisdale&#8217;s plots and Roy&#8217;s as commented upon by Leone.  I think Bob is probably correct, i.e. the fall in SST from the peak in July has stopped and SST are starting to rise again.</p>
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		<title>By: Leone</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-220144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob Tisdale:

Pictures sent by Roy Spencer are more recent and AMSR-E shows diving. Is there divergence between these datas (Spencer&#039;s and yours)? Or will data used by you continue diving when next couple of weeks are in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Tisdale:</p>
<p>Pictures sent by Roy Spencer are more recent and AMSR-E shows diving. Is there divergence between these datas (Spencer&#8217;s and yours)? Or will data used by you continue diving when next couple of weeks are in?</p>
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		<title>By: Tenuc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tenuc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rbateman (16:27:44) :
&quot;What gets me is that here you have all these positive anomalies, yet so many more record lows are being set as compared to record highs.
Winter comes earlier, spring is later.
Are anomalies the best tool we have for examining global climate?&quot;

Your right to question this!  Global average temperature (and anomalies to some LTA) convey no useful information about climate trends.

The only meaningful measure is change to total climate system dynamic energy level.  Unfortunately, at the moment, it is not possible to get an accurate enough measure of changes in system energy, due to the chaotic nature of the systems which effect them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rbateman (16:27:44) :<br />
&#8220;What gets me is that here you have all these positive anomalies, yet so many more record lows are being set as compared to record highs.<br />
Winter comes earlier, spring is later.<br />
Are anomalies the best tool we have for examining global climate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your right to question this!  Global average temperature (and anomalies to some LTA) convey no useful information about climate trends.</p>
<p>The only meaningful measure is change to total climate system dynamic energy level.  Unfortunately, at the moment, it is not possible to get an accurate enough measure of changes in system energy, due to the chaotic nature of the systems which effect them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tisdale</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-220056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Tisdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leone (14:08:46) :  You wrote, &quot;Althought NINO3.4 is climbing, global SST as whole is diving.&quot; 

It is?  Here&#039;s the weekly global SST anomalies through October 28, 2009.
http://i33.tinypic.com/mu9578.png

It&#039;s showing an upswing in response to the recent surge in NINO3.4 SST anomalies:
http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2009/11/nino34-sst-anomalies-make-surge.html

Regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leone (14:08:46) :  You wrote, &#8220;Althought NINO3.4 is climbing, global SST as whole is diving.&#8221; </p>
<p>It is?  Here&#8217;s the weekly global SST anomalies through October 28, 2009.<br />
<a href="http://i33.tinypic.com/mu9578.png" rel="nofollow">http://i33.tinypic.com/mu9578.png</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s showing an upswing in response to the recent surge in NINO3.4 SST anomalies:<br />
<a href="http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2009/11/nino34-sst-anomalies-make-surge.html" rel="nofollow">http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2009/11/nino34-sst-anomalies-make-surge.html</a></p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: John Finn</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-220014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Finn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; rbateman (16:27:44) : 

What gets me is that here you have all these positive anomalies, yet so many more record lows are being set as compared to record highs.
Winter comes earlier, spring is later.
Are anomalies the best tool we have for examining global climate? &lt;/i&gt;

The &quot;record lows&quot; appear  to be limited to the US  (i.e. 2% of the earth&#039;s surface).  There haven&#039;t been any  record lows in the Arctic recently (see polar temperature link). Europe has been mostly above average. The same goes for South America and much of Asia. 

What do you suggest we use to examine global climate. Anecdotes from random US posters, perhaps?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> rbateman (16:27:44) : </p>
<p>What gets me is that here you have all these positive anomalies, yet so many more record lows are being set as compared to record highs.<br />
Winter comes earlier, spring is later.<br />
Are anomalies the best tool we have for examining global climate? </i></p>
<p>The &#8220;record lows&#8221; appear  to be limited to the US  (i.e. 2% of the earth&#8217;s surface).  There haven&#8217;t been any  record lows in the Arctic recently (see polar temperature link). Europe has been mostly above average. The same goes for South America and much of Asia. </p>
<p>What do you suggest we use to examine global climate. Anecdotes from random US posters, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael hauber</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-219994</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael hauber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;No el nino peak?&quot;

If you look at past el ninos, temperatures do not normally start rising noticeably until November or December.  Normally at this time of year the temperature will be quite close to the 30 year trend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No el nino peak?&#8221;</p>
<p>If you look at past el ninos, temperatures do not normally start rising noticeably until November or December.  Normally at this time of year the temperature will be quite close to the 30 year trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm/Calgary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norm/Calgary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ron de Haan, 

I don&#039;t think I&#039;d want to send that image to Hopenhagen -- it makes the next 100 years look really bad. No one is going to get excited about forecasts beyond 100 years in the AGW camp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron de Haan, </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d want to send that image to Hopenhagen &#8212; it makes the next 100 years look really bad. No one is going to get excited about forecasts beyond 100 years in the AGW camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Haan</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-219843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron de Haan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Predicting exact monthly UAH anomalies until the year 2109:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4ruQ7t4zrFA/SvSRHZCL1_I/AAAAAAAADfk/gT1kp-mmiE8/uah-predictions-2109-cool2.JPG
http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/predicting-exact-monthly-uah-anomalies.html

Send this to Copenhagen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predicting exact monthly UAH anomalies until the year 2109:<br />
<a href="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4ruQ7t4zrFA/SvSRHZCL1_I/AAAAAAAADfk/gT1kp-mmiE8/uah-predictions-2109-cool2.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4ruQ7t4zrFA/SvSRHZCL1_I/AAAAAAAADfk/gT1kp-mmiE8/uah-predictions-2109-cool2.JPG</a><br />
<a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/predicting-exact-monthly-uah-anomalies.html" rel="nofollow">http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/predicting-exact-monthly-uah-anomalies.html</a></p>
<p>Send this to Copenhagen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sticker</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-219821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Sticker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is a &#039;weather is not climate&#039;, but snow cover over the top 100m of Mt Benson, Nanaimo, Vancouver Island BC was observed this morning.

Warming?  Where?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a &#8216;weather is not climate&#8217;, but snow cover over the top 100m of Mt Benson, Nanaimo, Vancouver Island BC was observed this morning.</p>
<p>Warming?  Where?</p>
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		<title>By: imapopulist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[imapopulist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“They are a minority. They are powerful. And invariably they are driven by vested interests,” 

“As we approach Copenhagen, these three groups of climate skeptics are quite literally holding the world to ransom,”

So Anthony, how much $$$ do you think you can get out of them before you give them back their global warming?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“They are a minority. They are powerful. And invariably they are driven by vested interests,” </p>
<p>“As we approach Copenhagen, these three groups of climate skeptics are quite literally holding the world to ransom,”</p>
<p>So Anthony, how much $$$ do you think you can get out of them before you give them back their global warming?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Hladik</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/06/uah-global-temperature-for-october-down-significantly/#comment-219789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Hladik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan Haile (10:28:48) : &quot;Richard Littlejohn is a right wing popular commentator who especially targets political stupidity.&quot;

Cushy job, given the target-rich environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Haile (10:28:48) : &#8220;Richard Littlejohn is a right wing popular commentator who especially targets political stupidity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cushy job, given the target-rich environment.</p>
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		<title>By: rbateman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rbateman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What gets me is that here you have all these positive anomalies, yet so many more record lows are being set as compared to record highs.
Winter comes earlier, spring is later.
Are anomalies the best tool we have for examining global climate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gets me is that here you have all these positive anomalies, yet so many more record lows are being set as compared to record highs.<br />
Winter comes earlier, spring is later.<br />
Are anomalies the best tool we have for examining global climate?</p>
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