But despite this, having carefully gazed into my crystal ball, here is my prediction for the Copenhagen Conference:-
Firstly, it will be claimed by the UN, many “scientists” and politicians to be a famous victory (despite some inconvenient problems). After all, as Dunkirk is still remembered as a “famous victory” in the UK, there is a precedent for this kind of claim.

Certainly they will agree to something really lame, probably along the lines that “action will be taken to limit global temperatures to no more than 2ºC above 1998 levels by the turn of the Century.” This will be met with howls of outrage by the hard line Greenies and calls for Europe & the US to be Carbon Neutral by 2010, or something equally ludicrous.

But, behind the scenes, whilst all the razmataz is going on under the eyes of the ignorant and lazy media, real progress will be being made by our ‘leaders’ in working towards a World Eco-fascist super state.

Rome wasn’t built in a day and even the EU “project” has taken decades to get where it is now – and if the current undemocratic and breathtakingly incompetent state of affairs in the UK would have been thought absolutely fanciful if suggested 40 years ago – the project still isn’t complete as Jean Monnet envisaged it.
Whatever the outcome of the allegedly ‘scientific debate’ on AGW, there is absolutely no way those trans-national fascists will EVER give up.
Eventually, we are just going to have to find a way to stop them.

Bloody mermink thieves.

3×2 (16:28:04) :
Can’t see myself shedding a tear for Al or any of the ‘first world’ climate scammers having lost their investment but, after this, I will also never back ‘third world’ charities such as Oxfam.

Recently I’ve started questioning just what it is that some charities do. Previously I’d just assumed the money was being put to good use. Now if someone asks for monthly donations, I ask questions. There was a charity asking for money to help drug addicts. They were very enthusiastic about how much help they were giving the addicts, and how well it was working. I asked them, how many of the people you help, are still addicts two years later? (Two years is a ball park figure for knowing that the changes are working.) The charity guy had no idea. He kept insisting it worked. His colleague rang their supervisor. Whilst the guy was telling me what a great person the supervisor was, “a veggie and everything”, the colleague came back and said the supervisor didn’t know either, it wasn’t something the charity monitored. The guy insisted again that it worked great. I said, wouldn’t it be a really impressive statistic, to be able to print in your glossy brochure here which you’ve handed me, to show that after two years, 50% are still off drugs? Or even 10%? Heck if it was just 5% that would be 5% helped. The guy was incredulous. I waked off.

It isn’t that there are no victims in the world. The problem is whether anybody really knows how to help. Often what is needed isn’t more money, it is more knowledge.

One could be cynical and say that, if someone knew how to cure an addict, the addicts themselves would hire the person. But if you don’t know how to cure addicts, and nevertheless you want to be paid to cure addicts, then you go work for a charity.

You wrote, “The EU looks more like Russia under Stalin every day”

That is Pravda’s view as well.

By Hans Vogel

Now that the Czech Republic has announced it will ratify the Lisbon Treaty, the EU will be even closer yet to becoming a unified monster state, with more than half a billion inhabitants. Inhabitants is the correct term, since “citizens” would indicate a set of political rights. The people living in the EU should rather be called “subjects,” since they have no influence whatsoever on the constitution of the centralized European government, the “European Commission.”

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/04-11-2009/110289-berlin_wall-0

(Pravda is Russian for Truth.)

Dunno Dan. It’s really all about greed. And peoples’ pride. The leftist social communists saw an opportunity in the green movement right after the Wall came down. They figured, enviros are faithful, believers, ready to be indoctrinated. Let’s subvert from the green base. Sweet revenge!

But socialists, like capitalists (only less honest about it) love power. They sat in their basements and twiddled their Playstations and figured a plan to dominate the world! Dr. No couldn’t have twiddled better. Meanwhile, Maxwell Smart and Agent 99 were undertaking vast counter measures against Boris Badenov. They were not about to give up their cushy oil lubricated fiefdom held in place by burying breakthrough technology and manufacturing enemies out of turbans.

Pitted against each other and themselves is this gaggle of spies. The biggest loser? You. And just plain folks the world over. Why? So these pathological liars can keep their little castles and lord it over the monkeys. And, we haven’t even mentioned the space aliens who feed both sides tidbits of technology so they have some hilarious sitcom content.

But we digress. Good people are held captive by this stupefying display of immature selfishness. On all sides. Purportedly there are some in this debacle who claim to be “enlightened.” So far, we see only luminous paint on thinly disguised shadows. If this is what the universe portends – it is not worth pursuit. Heaven’s absolute worst assignment. Dam!

good knight.

By slowing the actions of the fast-talking panic-spreading hustlers, the people suddenly realize the sky isn’t burning and the seas boiling. Are these the people who made the nations tremble? Why, they’re not Gods after all. Look, they got it all wrong.

Smokey (18:46:45) :
This attitude is what we’re dealing with

That is also why Britain today is covered with CCTV cameras wherever people live, and why the schools are sending in mandatory reports on racist remarks by children from the earliest years onward. It’s madness, and the only so-called solution, is for Britain to become the Western Province of the new European Union of Socialist Republics. That has been the goal all along for the Leftist radicals, and nobody knows how to stop them now.

Trust me on this one – the UK is way beyond that. You could now expect a report if your child was found reading WUWT at school (no exaggeration) or found in possession of salt (no stretch either). Nanny has no bounds and no oversight.

What you get is an endless stream of taxpayer cash being handed to hundreds of NGO’s that then use it to back policy whilst gaining immunity to any kind of scrutiny (eg FOI request). Be it the ‘Carbon Trust’ with their drowning pets, our favourite the Met Office or the ACPO – all creepy ‘private’ companies funded entirely by government and completely immune to any kind of scrutiny. Help the party when required, keep your funding.

As to ‘nobody knows how to stop them now’ expect a big increase in votes to the radical end of the spectrum (see last UK EU results). Both at local and EU level. It’s not that we are all becoming radical it is just the only way we have left to shaft these people.

The EU looks more like Russia under Stalin every day, everything is in place only nobody wants to step up for the main job right now. Layer upon layer of un-elected, un-accountable functionaries, committees meeting in secret, no voting just a stream of proclamations. There is good reason for not giving the UK a referendum on anything EU. As things stand the result may just be ‘no to this’ but the longer we are kept in this state the more likely the vote will be ‘exit’. You can only silence people for so long.

Not according to Australia’s Prime Minister:
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2735998.htm

“It is time to remove any polite veneer from this debate.”
“The clock is ticking for the planet, but the climate change sceptics simply do not care.”
“By slowing the actions of each individual country, they [sceptics] aim to slowly drag global negotiations on climate change to a standstill.”

Hey! That’s the Little Mermaid statue in Vancouver, BC!!!

The one in Vancouver has a wetsuit and diver’s mask on. Otherwise, they look similar.