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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/04/its-official-climate-change-beliefs-now-have-religious-status/#comment-218498</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Changed my mind. Thread closed. I&#039;m tired of having to act as babysitter for irrational comments. - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changed my mind. Thread closed. I&#8217;m tired of having to act as babysitter for irrational comments. &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/04/its-official-climate-change-beliefs-now-have-religious-status/#comment-218495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wattsupwiththat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen up folks, keep it clean or I&#039;ll close the thread. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen up folks, keep it clean or I&#8217;ll close the thread. </p>
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		<title>By: maz2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maz2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goreacle&#039;s Head &amp; Phrenological Report.
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&quot;Promises, Promises

Ill-judged predictions and projections can be embarrassing at best and, at worst, damaging to the authority of science and science policy.

A South Korean postage stamp issued in 2005 depicts a scene that is reminiscent of the iconic human evolution cartoon in which a stooping ape evolves, in six or so steps, into an upright, bipedal Homo sapiens. It shows a paraplegic man climbing slowly out of his wheelchair, standing up straight, and then performing a giant leap of celebration. Placed next to an image of an ovum undergoing the technique of nuclear transfer, the message was clear: Thanks to the groundbreaking publications of Hwang Woo-Suk, therapeutic cloning was a medical miracle that had as good as happened. The trouble is, it hadn’t happened. And nearly 4 years on, it still hasn’t.

South Korea was understandably proud of Hwang’s achievements and, like the rest of the world, excited by his claims and those of researchers worldwide that his human embryonic stem cell (hESC) techniques were set to provide therapies for not only spinal injuries, but Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and a host of other degenerative diseases. The rest is history.&quot; (More)
(See the palmistry hand lines .... it&#039;s a hoot.)

http://www.the-scientist.com/article/print/56082/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goreacle&#8217;s Head &amp; Phrenological Report.<br />
&#8230;-</p>
<p>&#8220;Promises, Promises</p>
<p>Ill-judged predictions and projections can be embarrassing at best and, at worst, damaging to the authority of science and science policy.</p>
<p>A South Korean postage stamp issued in 2005 depicts a scene that is reminiscent of the iconic human evolution cartoon in which a stooping ape evolves, in six or so steps, into an upright, bipedal Homo sapiens. It shows a paraplegic man climbing slowly out of his wheelchair, standing up straight, and then performing a giant leap of celebration. Placed next to an image of an ovum undergoing the technique of nuclear transfer, the message was clear: Thanks to the groundbreaking publications of Hwang Woo-Suk, therapeutic cloning was a medical miracle that had as good as happened. The trouble is, it hadn’t happened. And nearly 4 years on, it still hasn’t.</p>
<p>South Korea was understandably proud of Hwang’s achievements and, like the rest of the world, excited by his claims and those of researchers worldwide that his human embryonic stem cell (hESC) techniques were set to provide therapies for not only spinal injuries, but Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and a host of other degenerative diseases. The rest is history.&#8221; (More)<br />
(See the palmistry hand lines &#8230;. it&#8217;s a hoot.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-scientist.com/article/print/56082/" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-scientist.com/article/print/56082/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RockyMtn</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/04/its-official-climate-change-beliefs-now-have-religious-status/#comment-218489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RockyMtn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ray, we are not changing the physics or changing the radiative forcing of GHGs, we are simply talking about reducing emissions of GHGs and you call that &quot;Who are we to go against the Work of God? … if he exists!&quot;?
Interesting that you accept the Greenhouse effect, but fail to recognize that we can change the energy balance of the planet by changing the very composition of the atmosphere by introducing more and more GHGs? 
What are your feelings about us reducing CFCs then to &quot;heal&quot; the ozone layer?  By your logic it was OK for us to cause it, but not OK to make amends?  Were we going against the &quot;work of God&quot; when we created it or when we are trying to return it to its original state before we messed with it?
Also, think about this--CFCs measured p.p.t.v; CO2 measured p.p.m.v.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, we are not changing the physics or changing the radiative forcing of GHGs, we are simply talking about reducing emissions of GHGs and you call that &#8220;Who are we to go against the Work of God? … if he exists!&#8221;?<br />
Interesting that you accept the Greenhouse effect, but fail to recognize that we can change the energy balance of the planet by changing the very composition of the atmosphere by introducing more and more GHGs?<br />
What are your feelings about us reducing CFCs then to &#8220;heal&#8221; the ozone layer?  By your logic it was OK for us to cause it, but not OK to make amends?  Were we going against the &#8220;work of God&#8221; when we created it or when we are trying to return it to its original state before we messed with it?<br />
Also, think about this&#8211;CFCs measured p.p.t.v; CO2 measured p.p.m.v.</p>
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		<title>By: RockyMtn</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/04/its-official-climate-change-beliefs-now-have-religious-status/#comment-218483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RockyMtn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moderator, why are you are allowing blatant vitriol like this?

[snip]

But you decided to take issue with &quot;the tone&quot; my earlier post and snip it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderator, why are you are allowing blatant vitriol like this?</p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p>But you decided to take issue with &#8220;the tone&#8221; my earlier post and snip it?</p>
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		<title>By: Back2Bat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Back2Bat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dedicated to RockyMtn

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Earth in the Balance&lt;/b&gt;,
that make me smile;
on one side the Earth
on the other side Al.

&lt;b&gt;Earth in the Balance&lt;/b&gt;,
that make me laugh;
if he wants to cap something
how bout &lt;b&gt;his&lt;/b&gt; gas? &lt;/i&gt;


Politicians are fair (and in Al&#039;s case,  fat) game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dedicated to RockyMtn</p>
<p><i><b>Earth in the Balance</b>,<br />
that make me smile;<br />
on one side the Earth<br />
on the other side Al.</p>
<p><b>Earth in the Balance</b>,<br />
that make me laugh;<br />
if he wants to cap something<br />
how bout <b>his</b> gas? </i></p>
<p>Politicians are fair (and in Al&#8217;s case,  fat) game.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke the Sneak</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/04/its-official-climate-change-beliefs-now-have-religious-status/#comment-218476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeke the Sneak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Note: keep the comments clean, moderators will snip off color comments with abandon. -A&lt;/i&gt;

ATTN
Mick (14:19:46) :

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Gone, thread closed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Note: keep the comments clean, moderators will snip off color comments with abandon. -A</i></p>
<p>ATTN<br />
Mick (14:19:46) :</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Gone, thread closed</p>
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		<title>By: RockyMtn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RockyMtn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam &quot;Just to note there is a difference between the Christian church and the church of AGW&quot;

There is no such thing as the &quot;church of AGW&quot;?  We are talking about one (troubled?) person here.  Your statement suggests that because I am concerned about AGW and have a good handle on the science behind the theory, you and others are going to try and claim that I belong to &quot;the church of AGW&quot;?  Please clarify.

PS:  And the quote that I posted earlier appeared in the Guardian, not the Telegraph, my mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam &#8220;Just to note there is a difference between the Christian church and the church of AGW&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no such thing as the &#8220;church of AGW&#8221;?  We are talking about one (troubled?) person here.  Your statement suggests that because I am concerned about AGW and have a good handle on the science behind the theory, you and others are going to try and claim that I belong to &#8220;the church of AGW&#8221;?  Please clarify.</p>
<p>PS:  And the quote that I posted earlier appeared in the Guardian, not the Telegraph, my mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Nemetz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene Nemetz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peter_dtm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peter_dtm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great victory !

(until the warmists wake up and get this over turned on appeal- what is Monbiot saying ?)

[snip]

Yes in UK law dis-belief in something is as protected as belief - in other words (as has been seen recently in the UK where a nurse was suspended for OFFERING to pray for a patient) no warmist can now force his agenda on an employer either.

Very very subtle; and the judges ruling on AIT was far more strict than implied above; AIT may NOT be shown in schools UNLESS a balanced opposing view is ALSO presented; as a result it is NOT shown in British schools at all. This ruling may have a similar effect in the &#039;real&#039; world of commerce &amp; may allow us to prevent councils and other qungocrats from forcing this poisonous religion down our throats]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great victory !</p>
<p>(until the warmists wake up and get this over turned on appeal- what is Monbiot saying ?)</p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p>Yes in UK law dis-belief in something is as protected as belief &#8211; in other words (as has been seen recently in the UK where a nurse was suspended for OFFERING to pray for a patient) no warmist can now force his agenda on an employer either.</p>
<p>Very very subtle; and the judges ruling on AIT was far more strict than implied above; AIT may NOT be shown in schools UNLESS a balanced opposing view is ALSO presented; as a result it is NOT shown in British schools at all. This ruling may have a similar effect in the &#8216;real&#8217; world of commerce &amp; may allow us to prevent councils and other qungocrats from forcing this poisonous religion down our throats</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob T</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it dumb to take a building of some sort, seal it off, inject CO2 by some method, and see if it gets warmer over a period of time -- and compare the temps with another similar building without CO2 injection ?  Has this been done ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it dumb to take a building of some sort, seal it off, inject CO2 by some method, and see if it gets warmer over a period of time &#8212; and compare the temps with another similar building without CO2 injection ?  Has this been done ?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RockyMtn (14:08:31) :

Why do you think people react more against the idea of a warming planet than that of a cooling planet? Simply because we all know that we prefer summer than winter. We are all deeply afraid of cold and starvation, it&#039;s in our collective conscience. A few degrees higher is certainly more comfortable than a permanent -15 C.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RockyMtn (14:08:31) :</p>
<p>Why do you think people react more against the idea of a warming planet than that of a cooling planet? Simply because we all know that we prefer summer than winter. We are all deeply afraid of cold and starvation, it&#8217;s in our collective conscience. A few degrees higher is certainly more comfortable than a permanent -15 C.</p>
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		<title>By: RockyMtn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RockyMtn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moderator, thanks.  But explain then how the following inflammatory comment is considered to be OK?

[snip]

I think nearly everyone here needs to tone down the rhetoric and stop with the immature quips.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; its gone now, - A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderator, thanks.  But explain then how the following inflammatory comment is considered to be OK?</p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p>I think nearly everyone here needs to tone down the rhetoric and stop with the immature quips.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> its gone now, &#8211; A</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RockyMtn (13:57:00) :

If God exists, then he created the radiative forcing of GHG for many reasons that made life possible on this planet and a hospitable environment to sustain life. Without the greenhouse effect, life would simply not exists here on Earth. Who are we to go against the Work of God? ... if he exists!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RockyMtn (13:57:00) :</p>
<p>If God exists, then he created the radiative forcing of GHG for many reasons that made life possible on this planet and a hospitable environment to sustain life. Without the greenhouse effect, life would simply not exists here on Earth. Who are we to go against the Work of God? &#8230; if he exists!</p>
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		<title>By: RockyMtn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RockyMtn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also form the UK, The Telegraph:

&quot;There is no point in denying it: we&#039;re losing. Climate change denial is spreading like a contagious disease. It exists in a sphere that cannot be reached by evidence or reasoned argument; any attempt to draw attention to scientific findings is greeted with furious invective. This sphere is expanding with astonishing speed.&quot;

The comments posted here on WUWT regarding the religious ruling in the UK support this statement to the T.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also form the UK, The Telegraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no point in denying it: we&#8217;re losing. Climate change denial is spreading like a contagious disease. It exists in a sphere that cannot be reached by evidence or reasoned argument; any attempt to draw attention to scientific findings is greeted with furious invective. This sphere is expanding with astonishing speed.&#8221;</p>
<p>The comments posted here on WUWT regarding the religious ruling in the UK support this statement to the T.</p>
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