It’s frustrating to come across people who subscribe to this discredited bunk because they think they’re being responsible. How puerile!

When will the adults reclaim society? We’re being led around by overgrown kindergartners! I’m reminded by a poster that read like “everything important I learned, I learned in kindergarten”. Stuff like being nice to people and picking up after yourself. I’m sure it didn’t promote honest reward for honest work, living with consequences of your actions, and the like.

Regarding the UK’s (or British?) recognition of climate change as equally protected as religion…that could almost be an ironic benefit here in the US where conservatives for once could argue in favor of separation of church and state and perhaps put an end to Congress’ climate change hand-wringing.

Apologies for the incoherent ranting…..

My message to Science Museum:
‘The Science Museum, of all places, should know that the paleoclimatalogical evidence shows that CO2 has never been a primary forcer of the earth’s climate. For humanity to attempt to clontrol/redress the odd part per million of CO2 is an exercise in expensive futility and self delusion. There are so many errors on the website that I suspect the co-authors are Al Gore, Jim Hansen, Michael Mann and George Monbiot. Do I detect that this more evidence of scientists prostituting their learning in order to protect their generous government grants?’

Despite the whines from the likes of Monbiot, that is one example of the power of the orthodoxy in the UK and the reason why so few sceptics will stand up & be counted.

So far as the “survey” that started this thread is concerned, I wouldn’t use anything produced by the World Wild lies Fund to wipe myself if I was crouching behind a bush with my trousers down.

But it does remind my of an (allegedly) Russian saying:-

A pessimist is a man who thinks things will get worse.
An optimist is a man who thinks things can’t get any worse.

In this context, optimism / pessimism really doesn’t enter into my thoughts on the climate, which will just cussedly keep on “doing what a climate’s gotta do”. And without being greatly affected by homo sapiens one way or another.

But considering the current political set up in the UK. And the US. Not to forget our chums and colleagues in the EU, it is difficult not to be very pessimistic indeed about the outcomes of the Constitutional=Lisbon Treaty, the Copenhagen Treaty and indeed the quality of life we some of us enjoy and all of us aspire to (including, let us not forget, the ordinary african or indian or chinese citizen who just wants to raise the kids and have a few laughs.).

This bleak vision is entirely thanks to the eco-fascists who are steadilly building up their power base with active complicity of the media and precious little active opposition from anyone.

But one day they will be held to account and I hope I’m still around to see it.
OH! You’re my new favorite blogger fyi

Despite the whines from the likes of Monbiot, that is one example of the power of the orthodoxy in the UK and the reason why so few sceptics will stand up & be counted.

So far as the “survey” that started this thread is concerned, I wouldn’t use anything produced by the World Wild lies Fund to wipe myself if I was crouching behind a bush with my trousers down.

But it does remind my of an (allegedly) Russian saying:-

A pessimist is a man who thinks things will get worse.
An optimist is a man who thinks things can’t get any worse.

In this context, optimism / pessimism really doesn’t enter into my thoughts on the climate, which will just cussedly keep on “doing what a climate’s gotta do”. And without being greatly affected by homo sapiens one way or another.

But considering the current political set up in the UK. And the US. Not to forget our chums and colleagues in the EU, it is difficult not to be very pessimistic indeed about the outcomes of the Constitutional=Lisbon Treaty, the Copenhagen Treaty and indeed the quality of life we some of us enjoy and all of us aspire to (including, let us not forget, the ordinary african or indian or chinese citizen who just wants to raise the kids and have a few laughs.).

This bleak vision is entirely thanks to the eco-fascists who are steadilly building up their power base with active complicity of the media and precious little active opposition from anyone.

But one day they will be held to account and I hope I’m still around to see it.

Should we have the courage to do nothing?

Chilly weather kept temperatures down to record low levels across Otago last month, with Dunedin experiencing its coldest October since records began about 60 years ago.

Nationally, it was the coldest October in 64 years, with an average temperature of 10.6degC (1.4degC) below the long-term average) and record low temperatures recorded in many areas, including Otago, the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (Niwa) climate summary says.

Temperatures were more than 2degC below average throughout South Island eastern and alpine areas, climate scientist Georgina Griffiths said.

Queenstown recorded its lowest mean minimum temperature for October since records began in 1873, with a mean temperature of 2.8degC, 1.6degC below normal.

Dunedin also recorded its lowest mean minimum for the month since records began in 1947, shivering in 4.1degC (0.8degC below normal).

The city was the coldest of New Zealand’s six main centres, with a record mean temperature of 9degC (1.5degC below normal).

It was also a dry month, with Dunedin the only main centre to experience below-normal rainfall of 40mm – only 60% of normal. The rest recorded about 170% of normal rainfalls.

In the extreme low mean maximum daily temperatures Dunedin at Musselburgh recorded its lowest at 12.8degC (2degC below normal) and the airport its fourth lowest of 14degC (2degC below). Oamaru recorded its second lowest at 13.4degC (2.6degC below) and Balclutha its lowest since records began 45 years ago with 13degC (2.5degC below).

The lowest October temperature of -5.5degC was recorded at Ranfurly on the 5th but it was not a record for the town.

Records were broken for extreme low daily minimum temperatures at Dunedin airport (-3.3degC on the 7th), the lowest since records began in 1947 and Queenstown (-3.5degC on the 5th), the lowest since 1871.

CHILLING OUT

• Dunedin the coldest of New Zealand’s six main centres.
• Lowest mean maximum daily temperatures recorded at Dunedin 12.8degC, 2degC below normal.
• Queenstown recorded its lowest mean minimum temperature for at least 130 years.

O?T but British law now says that a belief in climate change can be likened to a belief in religion. Says it all really.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6494213/Climate-change-belief-given-same-legal-status-as-religion.html

How is this in the UK: Are you allowed to practice your religious ceremonies at your place of work?

It’s good to see people are coming around and understanding that you can’t control the climate or weather.

It would also help if they came to understand they can’t control human nature, or man’s rational thought.

This summary would be an attempt to bring reason to the masses in a form they may understand…

1. The Earth’s climate has fluctuated constantly for billions of years.

2. The Earth has been _________ degrees cooler than now.

3. The Earth has been _________ degrees warmer than now.

4. Although some men may think they are more powerful than nature – and can control the climate – history has shown otherwise.

5. Why on earth would anyone name a block of ICE ‘Greenland’.

etc…

What does everyone think?

Jon