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	<title>Comments on: Previously Unknown Volcanic Eruption Helped Trigger Cold Decade</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-217238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A huge amount of world misery is the result of the banking cartels.&quot;
And all the worlds trade and prosperity!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A huge amount of world misery is the result of the banking cartels.&#8221;<br />
And all the worlds trade and prosperity!</p>
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		<title>By: Back2Bat</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-217233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Back2Bat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;I would be interested in hearing any proposals that make war obsolete and work, even if the whole world doesn’t buy in, and, obviously, without forcing their buy in without conquest.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  TJA

I think it is our duty to show the world what actual free market capitalism (FMC) and free trade can do.   FMC has gotten a bad rap from the government backed banking cartel it is forced to do business with. Ron Paul knows the answer.   Central banking caused WWII and is used to finance all others so abolish that and the world can peacefully get along.  We are so close to world wide prosperity via technology.   A huge amount of world misery is the result of the banking cartels.

There are better ways to do banking than fractional reserve banking but competition must be allowed first.

I don&#039;t see why we cannot have peace but it will take fundamental reform of our current corrupt banking model.  Otherwise, the same ole same ole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I would be interested in hearing any proposals that make war obsolete and work, even if the whole world doesn’t buy in, and, obviously, without forcing their buy in without conquest.&#8221;</i>  TJA</p>
<p>I think it is our duty to show the world what actual free market capitalism (FMC) and free trade can do.   FMC has gotten a bad rap from the government backed banking cartel it is forced to do business with. Ron Paul knows the answer.   Central banking caused WWII and is used to finance all others so abolish that and the world can peacefully get along.  We are so close to world wide prosperity via technology.   A huge amount of world misery is the result of the banking cartels.</p>
<p>There are better ways to do banking than fractional reserve banking but competition must be allowed first.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why we cannot have peace but it will take fundamental reform of our current corrupt banking model.  Otherwise, the same ole same ole.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-217223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bobs (20:25:12) :
&lt;i&gt;where is your data? You don’t have any?&lt;/i&gt;
I think the general idea is that the very largest volcanic eruptions actually lead to a cooling of the weather for some years after.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bobs (20:25:12) :<br />
<i>where is your data? You don’t have any?</i><br />
I think the general idea is that the very largest volcanic eruptions actually lead to a cooling of the weather for some years after.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bobs</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-217214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Bobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, wicked comeback Leif, where is your data?  You don&#039;t have any?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wicked comeback Leif, where is your data?  You don&#8217;t have any?</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-217037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bobs (13:44:05) :
&lt;i&gt;For Leif the idiot who keeps saying things&lt;/i&gt;
where should the comma or colon go?  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bobs (13:44:05) :<br />
<i>For Leif the idiot who keeps saying things</i><br />
where should the comma or colon go?  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: The Bobs</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-216985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Bobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only known volcano that may have been the source of the 1809 eruption is this one:  http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=0502-08=]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only known volcano that may have been the source of the 1809 eruption is this one:  <a href="http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=0502-08=" rel="nofollow">http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=0502-08=</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Bobs</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-216982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Bobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Leif the idiot who keeps saying things like there is a correlation between volcanic eruptions and global warming, he should look at the following information:  http://www.volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?faq=06

The page explains that any apparent raise in the number of volcanic eruptions is likely due to increased population and improved reporting and commucations.  When large eruptions are plotted (see bottom of page) the result has a slope=0.   Large eruptions are much less likely to be missed, for obvious reasons.

No doubt you denialists will just bury your heads further in the sand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Leif the idiot who keeps saying things like there is a correlation between volcanic eruptions and global warming, he should look at the following information:  <a href="http://www.volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?faq=06" rel="nofollow">http://www.volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?faq=06</a></p>
<p>The page explains that any apparent raise in the number of volcanic eruptions is likely due to increased population and improved reporting and commucations.  When large eruptions are plotted (see bottom of page) the result has a slope=0.   Large eruptions are much less likely to be missed, for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>No doubt you denialists will just bury your heads further in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: TJA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;War is not the answer.&quot; - Back2Bat (Phillies fan?)

While it may be true that &quot;war is not the answer&quot;, it is also true that war *is* an answer, viz Japan, Germany. Since no other &quot;answer&quot; seems to be forthcoming, I am betting on more war. Not advocating it, mind you. Just don&#039;t see human nature changing.

I would be interested in hearing any proposals that make war obsolete and work, even if the whole world doesn&#039;t buy in, and, obviously, without forcing their buy in without conquest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;War is not the answer.&#8221; &#8211; Back2Bat (Phillies fan?)</p>
<p>While it may be true that &#8220;war is not the answer&#8221;, it is also true that war *is* an answer, viz Japan, Germany. Since no other &#8220;answer&#8221; seems to be forthcoming, I am betting on more war. Not advocating it, mind you. Just don&#8217;t see human nature changing.</p>
<p>I would be interested in hearing any proposals that make war obsolete and work, even if the whole world doesn&#8217;t buy in, and, obviously, without forcing their buy in without conquest.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crosspatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that there was little study done, but an eruption of that magnitude would have produced other indicators that would be reported in weather reports, anecdotes, reports of some mass of pumice, strange clouds, dry fog, odd sunsets, something.  

All I can find are two volcanic events that were reported to have caused spectacular sunsets in Europe.  The 1808 eruption in the Azores and the 1809 (Mar 27) eruption of Etna (VEI2 and probably tropospheric, smaller than the 1811 [Oct 27] eruption at Etna).  But other than the spectacular sunsets, no mention of any other indications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that there was little study done, but an eruption of that magnitude would have produced other indicators that would be reported in weather reports, anecdotes, reports of some mass of pumice, strange clouds, dry fog, odd sunsets, something.  </p>
<p>All I can find are two volcanic events that were reported to have caused spectacular sunsets in Europe.  The 1808 eruption in the Azores and the 1809 (Mar 27) eruption of Etna (VEI2 and probably tropospheric, smaller than the 1811 [Oct 27] eruption at Etna).  But other than the spectacular sunsets, no mention of any other indications.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Les Francis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was no serious Volcanolgy until after the Krakatau event of 1883.

Events in the tropical regions to this period were chronicalised by ships logs, military reports or colonists anecdotes. No serious scientific study.

Indonesia has the most active Volcanoes. Many are not been studied - many with   only cursory reports.  The Indonesian Volcanlogical Institute concentrate mainly on the Volcanoes that are known to cause population impact - there is no funding for comprehensive studies. 
There are some current ethnic groups within Sumatera with a written language and history. Some of these groups have historical documents that chronicle geophysical events such as Earthquakes, Tsunamis and eruptions. 

Some years ago I was based in Tanjungkarang-Telukbetung at the bottom of Sumatera. While there I have met various geophysical groups doing studies of Krakatau. Some of these different group studies contradict each other. 
I have also seen film crews making documentaries with some - make a bold statement - rent a scientists]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no serious Volcanolgy until after the Krakatau event of 1883.</p>
<p>Events in the tropical regions to this period were chronicalised by ships logs, military reports or colonists anecdotes. No serious scientific study.</p>
<p>Indonesia has the most active Volcanoes. Many are not been studied &#8211; many with   only cursory reports.  The Indonesian Volcanlogical Institute concentrate mainly on the Volcanoes that are known to cause population impact &#8211; there is no funding for comprehensive studies.<br />
There are some current ethnic groups within Sumatera with a written language and history. Some of these groups have historical documents that chronicle geophysical events such as Earthquakes, Tsunamis and eruptions. </p>
<p>Some years ago I was based in Tanjungkarang-Telukbetung at the bottom of Sumatera. While there I have met various geophysical groups doing studies of Krakatau. Some of these different group studies contradict each other.<br />
I have also seen film crews making documentaries with some &#8211; make a bold statement &#8211; rent a scientists</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crosspatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My guess still would be Africa or different eruptions at about the same time. Anything in Indonesia would have been recorded.  Philippines would have been recorded.  Hawai&#039;i would have been recorded. 

A VE6 volcanic event is not easy to conceal unless it happened under the ocean.  The Dutch had an established penal colony in Indonesia in 1809 and a VE6 eruption would have been noticed.

There seems to be a report of a tsunami in South Africa in 1809 but that was likely due to local earthquake.    There was a tsunami-like phenomenon in Italy on July 4, 1809:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
 ”Gazette Nationale” (1809) is reported:
“...the inhabitants of La Spezia and those living in the whole
gulf observed an extraordinary tide on 4 July. ... At about
8 a.m. the sea, that till then was absolutely calm, suddenly
rose about 1m above its usual limit. This extraordinary tide
lasted for about 15–20min rising and falling. No apparent
cause was observed. ... The tide was so strong and quick
that the sea water ﬂew up to the city of La Spezia through
a small canal that crosses the city itself. Some merchants
that were settled in the embankments ran away. ... Large
parts of the low beach were left dry and some big ﬁshes were
dragged by the water and trapped in the dried beach ... The
ﬁrst ﬂux of the sea water was followed by 4 or 5 others that
gradually diminished their strength. ... We can suppose that
the effects of this extraordinary tide was due to some seismic
shock, or submarine or in land.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There was some kind of unrest around Guam in 1810 with several islands being swamped by tsunami.

I can find no evidence of anything that would show a massive volcanic event.  No evidence of strange weather, odd clouds, strange sunsets, or diminished sunshine as seen with other large volcanic eruptions.  There are no reports of major tsunami.  There are no reports of unusual pumice floats on the high seas.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;
An English journal reported that during an 1809 storm, three &quot;balls of fire&quot; appeared and &quot;attacked&quot; the British ship HMS Warren Hastings. The crew watched one ball descend, killing a man on deck and setting the main mast on fire. A crewman went out to retrieve the fallen body and was struck by a second ball, which knocked him back and left him with mild burns. A third man was killed by contact with the third ball. Crew members reported a persistent, sickening sulfur smell afterward
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So if the release of sulfur was larger than that of Pinatubo, could it have been by other means?  Maybe a magma chamber somewhere found a way to release its gas by less violent means without as violent of an eruption?

The Tambora eruption resulted in two days of darkness within 600km of the volcano.  That makes it even more difficult to hide such an eruption.  It is pretty difficult to draw a 600km circle in the tropics and have it not fall on an area of at least some population unless it is well out at sea.

The year after Tambora, 1816, saw widespread reports of &quot;dry fog&quot; but there are no such reports in 1810 that I can find.  How can you have a larger eruption with more sulfur but no reports of any impact from that sulfur other than in ice cores?

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-build_image?bg=%23FFFFFF&amp;/seri/AREPS/0016/600/0000087.000&amp;db_key=AST&amp;bits=4&amp;res=100&amp;filetype=.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eruption of 535&lt;/a&gt; also produced strange clouds, dry fog, etc.  But nothing from 1809/1810.

Tambora blocked about 25% of the sun&#039;s light globally.  A larger eruption would have surely been noticed.  The 535 Krakatau eruption blocked about 1/2 the sun&#039;s light.  Toba is extimated to have blocked enough as to have prevented photosynthesis blocking over 90% of the sun&#039;s light.

There is no evidence of any reduced sunshine in the 1809/1810 years.

I do not dispute that there is a layer of acidic precipitation that is dated to 1809 but there really does not appear to be any other corroborating evidence of there having been a large eruption at that time.  There must be some other explanation for it or it was an eruption of a type that is very rare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess still would be Africa or different eruptions at about the same time. Anything in Indonesia would have been recorded.  Philippines would have been recorded.  Hawai&#8217;i would have been recorded. </p>
<p>A VE6 volcanic event is not easy to conceal unless it happened under the ocean.  The Dutch had an established penal colony in Indonesia in 1809 and a VE6 eruption would have been noticed.</p>
<p>There seems to be a report of a tsunami in South Africa in 1809 but that was likely due to local earthquake.    There was a tsunami-like phenomenon in Italy on July 4, 1809:</p>
<blockquote><p>
 ”Gazette Nationale” (1809) is reported:<br />
“&#8230;the inhabitants of La Spezia and those living in the whole<br />
gulf observed an extraordinary tide on 4 July. &#8230; At about<br />
8 a.m. the sea, that till then was absolutely calm, suddenly<br />
rose about 1m above its usual limit. This extraordinary tide<br />
lasted for about 15–20min rising and falling. No apparent<br />
cause was observed. &#8230; The tide was so strong and quick<br />
that the sea water ﬂew up to the city of La Spezia through<br />
a small canal that crosses the city itself. Some merchants<br />
that were settled in the embankments ran away. &#8230; Large<br />
parts of the low beach were left dry and some big ﬁshes were<br />
dragged by the water and trapped in the dried beach &#8230; The<br />
ﬁrst ﬂux of the sea water was followed by 4 or 5 others that<br />
gradually diminished their strength. &#8230; We can suppose that<br />
the effects of this extraordinary tide was due to some seismic<br />
shock, or submarine or in land.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>There was some kind of unrest around Guam in 1810 with several islands being swamped by tsunami.</p>
<p>I can find no evidence of anything that would show a massive volcanic event.  No evidence of strange weather, odd clouds, strange sunsets, or diminished sunshine as seen with other large volcanic eruptions.  There are no reports of major tsunami.  There are no reports of unusual pumice floats on the high seas.  </p>
<blockquote><p>
An English journal reported that during an 1809 storm, three &#8220;balls of fire&#8221; appeared and &#8220;attacked&#8221; the British ship HMS Warren Hastings. The crew watched one ball descend, killing a man on deck and setting the main mast on fire. A crewman went out to retrieve the fallen body and was struck by a second ball, which knocked him back and left him with mild burns. A third man was killed by contact with the third ball. Crew members reported a persistent, sickening sulfur smell afterward
</p></blockquote>
<p>So if the release of sulfur was larger than that of Pinatubo, could it have been by other means?  Maybe a magma chamber somewhere found a way to release its gas by less violent means without as violent of an eruption?</p>
<p>The Tambora eruption resulted in two days of darkness within 600km of the volcano.  That makes it even more difficult to hide such an eruption.  It is pretty difficult to draw a 600km circle in the tropics and have it not fall on an area of at least some population unless it is well out at sea.</p>
<p>The year after Tambora, 1816, saw widespread reports of &#8220;dry fog&#8221; but there are no such reports in 1810 that I can find.  How can you have a larger eruption with more sulfur but no reports of any impact from that sulfur other than in ice cores?</p>
<p>The <a href="http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-build_image?bg=%23FFFFFF&amp;/seri/AREPS/0016/600/0000087.000&amp;db_key=AST&amp;bits=4&amp;res=100&amp;filetype=.gif" rel="nofollow">eruption of 535</a> also produced strange clouds, dry fog, etc.  But nothing from 1809/1810.</p>
<p>Tambora blocked about 25% of the sun&#8217;s light globally.  A larger eruption would have surely been noticed.  The 535 Krakatau eruption blocked about 1/2 the sun&#8217;s light.  Toba is extimated to have blocked enough as to have prevented photosynthesis blocking over 90% of the sun&#8217;s light.</p>
<p>There is no evidence of any reduced sunshine in the 1809/1810 years.</p>
<p>I do not dispute that there is a layer of acidic precipitation that is dated to 1809 but there really does not appear to be any other corroborating evidence of there having been a large eruption at that time.  There must be some other explanation for it or it was an eruption of a type that is very rare.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crosspatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Crosspatch, the study quotes 1809, not 1909. &quot;

DOH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Crosspatch, the study quotes 1809, not 1909. &#8221;</p>
<p>DOH!</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John S. (11:03:41) :
&lt;i&gt;There is no detectible ongoing “signal,” even on a decadal scale.&lt;/i&gt;
And how do we know that what detected in 1809-1819 was not the decadal signal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John S. (11:03:41) :<br />
<i>There is no detectible ongoing “signal,” even on a decadal scale.</i><br />
And how do we know that what detected in 1809-1819 was not the decadal signal?</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Major volcanic eruptions do have a perceptible effect on global temperatures.  However, that effect is episodic and short-lived.  As Bill Illis (11:05:36) correctly points out, that effect is quite minor vis a vis persistent natural variabilty.   There is no detectible ongoing &quot;signal,&quot; even on a decadal scale. 

The descent into the Daulton minimum and the recovery therefrom took a few decades.  The role of volcanism during that remarkable period, which also saw a cluster of Richter 8+ earthquakes, should be studied by means more rigorous than hand-waving association, hyped by a UCSD (sic!) press release.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major volcanic eruptions do have a perceptible effect on global temperatures.  However, that effect is episodic and short-lived.  As Bill Illis (11:05:36) correctly points out, that effect is quite minor vis a vis persistent natural variabilty.   There is no detectible ongoing &#8220;signal,&#8221; even on a decadal scale. </p>
<p>The descent into the Daulton minimum and the recovery therefrom took a few decades.  The role of volcanism during that remarkable period, which also saw a cluster of Richter 8+ earthquakes, should be studied by means more rigorous than hand-waving association, hyped by a UCSD (sic!) press release.</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/previously-unknown-volcanic-eruption-helped-trigger-cold-decade/#comment-216202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach (22:27:10):

Cole-Dai responded promptly and courteously because he is a chemist, not a &quot;climate scientist.&quot;

Ulric Lyons (07:15:22):

CET is quite localized; it by no means provides an indication of hemispheric temperatures.  And in its earliest stretches (prior to ~1750) it may be reasonably doubted that it it provides a reliable indication of temperatures in Central England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis Eschenbach (22:27:10):</p>
<p>Cole-Dai responded promptly and courteously because he is a chemist, not a &#8220;climate scientist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ulric Lyons (07:15:22):</p>
<p>CET is quite localized; it by no means provides an indication of hemispheric temperatures.  And in its earliest stretches (prior to ~1750) it may be reasonably doubted that it it provides a reliable indication of temperatures in Central England.</p>
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