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	<title>Comments on: A little known 20 40 year old climate change prediction by Dr. James Hansen &#8211; that failed will likely fail badly</title>
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		<title>By: Keith Sketchley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Sketchley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Landin said: &quot;What happened to those who hid the truth in Atlas Shrugged? They were exposed as frauds and their institutions imploded. 

Truth can never be hidden forever.&quot;

I comment:
And in one scene the government goons are fretting about a particular lie they’ve been publicizing for weeks that no one is believing them.

Given the low rank of climate change in polls, before Climategate, there may be hope despite the result of a whole lot of US voters forgetting Martin Luther King’s maxim about “content of character”.

(Canada’s current government is better though trying to sit side-saddle on the fence for avoid getting defeated.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landin said: &#8220;What happened to those who hid the truth in Atlas Shrugged? They were exposed as frauds and their institutions imploded. </p>
<p>Truth can never be hidden forever.&#8221;</p>
<p>I comment:<br />
And in one scene the government goons are fretting about a particular lie they’ve been publicizing for weeks that no one is believing them.</p>
<p>Given the low rank of climate change in polls, before Climategate, there may be hope despite the result of a whole lot of US voters forgetting Martin Luther King’s maxim about “content of character”.</p>
<p>(Canada’s current government is better though trying to sit side-saddle on the fence for avoid getting defeated.)</p>
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		<title>By: Stas Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stas Peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talk about irony. 

Paul and Gavin&#039;s offices are in the same building that Seinfeld producer, the esteemed &#039;Piss Christ &#039;  producer and Christian tolerance seeker, used as Seinfelds home.    

It turns out that Larry David&#039;s wife, Laurie David, is the producer/author of the comic phantasy, Al Gore&#039;s &quot;An Inconvenient Truth&quot;.   For which Mrs. David won an Academy Award, and for which some members of the Oscar Academy now want revoked. 

Tom&#039;s Restaurant would be reachable today only by boat, had the prophecies of Dr. Hansen uttered in 1988 and re-prophesied in 2001; and  Mrs. David been based in any reality  in this portion of the Multi-verse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about irony. </p>
<p>Paul and Gavin&#8217;s offices are in the same building that Seinfeld producer, the esteemed &#8216;Piss Christ &#8216;  producer and Christian tolerance seeker, used as Seinfelds home.    </p>
<p>It turns out that Larry David&#8217;s wife, Laurie David, is the producer/author of the comic phantasy, Al Gore&#8217;s &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth&#8221;.   For which Mrs. David won an Academy Award, and for which some members of the Oscar Academy now want revoked. </p>
<p>Tom&#8217;s Restaurant would be reachable today only by boat, had the prophecies of Dr. Hansen uttered in 1988 and re-prophesied in 2001; and  Mrs. David been based in any reality  in this portion of the Multi-verse.</p>
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		<title>By: oshtkd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oshtkd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!  This is great &quot;data!&quot;
So 97% of the world&#039;s climate scientists and EVERY scientific academy on the planet are wrong because James Hansen made this remark in 1988?
You are really a great scientist!!
Thanks so much for setting us and the world&#039;s REAL scientists straight!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  This is great &#8220;data!&#8221;<br />
So 97% of the world&#8217;s climate scientists and EVERY scientific academy on the planet are wrong because James Hansen made this remark in 1988?<br />
You are really a great scientist!!<br />
Thanks so much for setting us and the world&#8217;s REAL scientists straight!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Kaj L (01:12:37) : 

You call this 

http://www.realclimate.org/images/Hansen06_fig2.jpg

a “prediction that failed badly” proves only that you don’t understand what you are talking about.&quot;

Actually, that was the worthless graphic in Hansen&#039;s follow-up article, to which I referred in my last post. Without knowing what the emissions growth rate is that accompanies the land-ocean measurements to 2005, you can&#039;t determine from the figure whether the prediction failed or not. Also, in 2006, the easiset test of whether or not the 1988 model was accurate would have been to dust off the model, input the actual emissions rates, CO2 concentration, volcanic particles, etc. and see how it performed. It was Hansen&#039;s model, and I find it hard to believe that it would have been discarded. The fact that he didn&#039;t use such an obvious method of validation indicates to me that he knew it would fail, so he just put out that overlay hoping that he could fool the journalists into thinking that the proximity of actual temperatures to one of the three scenarios was meaningful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kaj L (01:12:37) : </p>
<p>You call this </p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/images/Hansen06_fig2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/images/Hansen06_fig2.jpg</a></p>
<p>a “prediction that failed badly” proves only that you don’t understand what you are talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, that was the worthless graphic in Hansen&#8217;s follow-up article, to which I referred in my last post. Without knowing what the emissions growth rate is that accompanies the land-ocean measurements to 2005, you can&#8217;t determine from the figure whether the prediction failed or not. Also, in 2006, the easiset test of whether or not the 1988 model was accurate would have been to dust off the model, input the actual emissions rates, CO2 concentration, volcanic particles, etc. and see how it performed. It was Hansen&#8217;s model, and I find it hard to believe that it would have been discarded. The fact that he didn&#8217;t use such an obvious method of validation indicates to me that he knew it would fail, so he just put out that overlay hoping that he could fool the journalists into thinking that the proximity of actual temperatures to one of the three scenarios was meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Chris (09:10:52) : 

The green line was the business as usual case (if I recall correctly) that involved some minor reductions in the growth of CO2 emissions (e.g., higher fuel efficiency, wind power, better heat conservation in buildings, etc.). The red line was the worse case.&quot;

You have it wrong. I have a copy of Hansen&#039;s testimony in my desk drawer and he clearly refers to scenario A (the red line) as the &quot;business as usual&quot; scenario. In his 1988 published paper, the only caveat he raised with respect to scenario A was that it must &quot;eventually be on the high side of reality&quot; because resource constraints would have to limit exponential growth of emissions in the distant future. I should add, however, that the 1988 paper also indicated that scenario B was &quot;perhaps&quot; the most plausible, whatever that means (putting &quot;perhaps&quot; in front of &quot;plausible&quot; renders the latter term meaningless - it&#039;s either the most plausible or it&#039;s not). 

My feeling is that Michaels was correct to use scenario A in his own testimony to Congress when comparing Hansen&#039;s predictions to reality; since we were in the first decade of the projection, long before resource constraints kick in to limit the exponential growth of CO2 emissions, it was perfectly fair to use scenario A, particularly given the &quot;business as usual&quot; remarks.

When Hansen got testy about being shown wrong, he took his own words out of context and pretended as if the original paper had simply referred to scenario A as being &quot;on the high side of reality&quot; and then, post hoc, characterized it as a &quot;worst case scenario.&quot; But if you go back to the original paper, he never referred to it as such, and in fact pointed out that the CO2 growth rate assumed by scenario A was conservative. 

Also, when he tried to defend his projections in a follow-up paper, all he did was compare the observed temperatures to the three scenarios and remark that the observed temperatures followed scenario B pretty closely (although they were just as good of a match to scenario C at that point, though no longer even that by now). At no point did do the preliminary factual work of showing that the actual growth in greenhouse gasses followed scenario B. This seemed to be a pretty obvious logical flaw; if, for example, the world was following emissions scenario A, while temperatures were more in line with what the model expected for scenario B, then the model would be an abject failure. Simply overlaying observed temperatures on the three predictions for the three scenarios, and remarking that the observed temperatures followed the middle curve demonstrated nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chris (09:10:52) : </p>
<p>The green line was the business as usual case (if I recall correctly) that involved some minor reductions in the growth of CO2 emissions (e.g., higher fuel efficiency, wind power, better heat conservation in buildings, etc.). The red line was the worse case.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have it wrong. I have a copy of Hansen&#8217;s testimony in my desk drawer and he clearly refers to scenario A (the red line) as the &#8220;business as usual&#8221; scenario. In his 1988 published paper, the only caveat he raised with respect to scenario A was that it must &#8220;eventually be on the high side of reality&#8221; because resource constraints would have to limit exponential growth of emissions in the distant future. I should add, however, that the 1988 paper also indicated that scenario B was &#8220;perhaps&#8221; the most plausible, whatever that means (putting &#8220;perhaps&#8221; in front of &#8220;plausible&#8221; renders the latter term meaningless &#8211; it&#8217;s either the most plausible or it&#8217;s not). </p>
<p>My feeling is that Michaels was correct to use scenario A in his own testimony to Congress when comparing Hansen&#8217;s predictions to reality; since we were in the first decade of the projection, long before resource constraints kick in to limit the exponential growth of CO2 emissions, it was perfectly fair to use scenario A, particularly given the &#8220;business as usual&#8221; remarks.</p>
<p>When Hansen got testy about being shown wrong, he took his own words out of context and pretended as if the original paper had simply referred to scenario A as being &#8220;on the high side of reality&#8221; and then, post hoc, characterized it as a &#8220;worst case scenario.&#8221; But if you go back to the original paper, he never referred to it as such, and in fact pointed out that the CO2 growth rate assumed by scenario A was conservative. </p>
<p>Also, when he tried to defend his projections in a follow-up paper, all he did was compare the observed temperatures to the three scenarios and remark that the observed temperatures followed scenario B pretty closely (although they were just as good of a match to scenario C at that point, though no longer even that by now). At no point did do the preliminary factual work of showing that the actual growth in greenhouse gasses followed scenario B. This seemed to be a pretty obvious logical flaw; if, for example, the world was following emissions scenario A, while temperatures were more in line with what the model expected for scenario B, then the model would be an abject failure. Simply overlaying observed temperatures on the three predictions for the three scenarios, and remarking that the observed temperatures followed the middle curve demonstrated nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: wikiwonk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wikiwonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s too darn easy to poke fun at this kind of prediction.  I dislike the grandstanding Hanson was engaged in in the first place.  Even so, if he merely got the direction of the effect right, he&#039;s playing for par on a tough course.   (Many don&#039;t: Paul Erhlich comes to mind.)   If sea water is lapping at that roadway in another 20 years, I say he more than covered the bet.  If the water already covered that roadway by now, I would say he eagled a par 4.   Take a look out a different window, and tell me Hanson&#039;s all wet. 

http://www.ted.com/talks/james_balog_time_lapse_proof_of_extreme_ice_loss.html

Twenty years ago, he might have said, &quot;well, we don&#039;t understand the ice caps, but we have cause for alarm&quot;.  Who would even remember the guy had he done so?   Who would now be posting long pages commending his understated prescience?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too darn easy to poke fun at this kind of prediction.  I dislike the grandstanding Hanson was engaged in in the first place.  Even so, if he merely got the direction of the effect right, he&#8217;s playing for par on a tough course.   (Many don&#8217;t: Paul Erhlich comes to mind.)   If sea water is lapping at that roadway in another 20 years, I say he more than covered the bet.  If the water already covered that roadway by now, I would say he eagled a par 4.   Take a look out a different window, and tell me Hanson&#8217;s all wet. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/james_balog_time_lapse_proof_of_extreme_ice_loss.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/james_balog_time_lapse_proof_of_extreme_ice_loss.html</a></p>
<p>Twenty years ago, he might have said, &#8220;well, we don&#8217;t understand the ice caps, but we have cause for alarm&#8221;.  Who would even remember the guy had he done so?   Who would now be posting long pages commending his understated prescience?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Knights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continuing on our tangent about political meddling in weapons procurement, the Allies fat-headedly rejected Dutchman Fokker&#039;s triplane (3-wing) design, which was clearly superior, as shown by the results the Germans achieved with it, when he turned to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing on our tangent about political meddling in weapons procurement, the Allies fat-headedly rejected Dutchman Fokker&#8217;s triplane (3-wing) design, which was clearly superior, as shown by the results the Germans achieved with it, when he turned to them.</p>
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		<title>By: DoctorJJ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DoctorJJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For everyone asking about a website to track the predictions, there is a website 
http://wrongtomorrow.com
I just checked it and it seems like it&#039;s temporarily down. You can check google&#039;s cache to see what it looks like though. The guy who runs it will accept submissions for any talking head that makes outlandish predictions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone asking about a website to track the predictions, there is a website<br />
<a href="http://wrongtomorrow.com" rel="nofollow">http://wrongtomorrow.com</a><br />
I just checked it and it seems like it&#8217;s temporarily down. You can check google&#8217;s cache to see what it looks like though. The guy who runs it will accept submissions for any talking head that makes outlandish predictions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Max</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry - about 150 m per 1000 years. I was carried away.

Max]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; about 150 m per 1000 years. I was carried away.</p>
<p>Max</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Max</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[West Side Highway lies 3 m above sealevel. The fastest sealevel rise during the last deglaciation was about 14 m per 1000 years. To drown West Side Highway in 20 years according to Dr Hansen&#039;s scenario would require a sealevel rise of 700 m per 1000 years. Unprecedented. / Max]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West Side Highway lies 3 m above sealevel. The fastest sealevel rise during the last deglaciation was about 14 m per 1000 years. To drown West Side Highway in 20 years according to Dr Hansen&#8217;s scenario would require a sealevel rise of 700 m per 1000 years. Unprecedented. / Max</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Cheetham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Cheetham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hansen&#039;s recent paper indicates that the warming is not due to CO2. See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/HansenModel.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/HansenModel.htm&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hansen&#8217;s recent paper indicates that the warming is not due to CO2. See: <a href="http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/HansenModel.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/HansenModel.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Turboblocke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turboblocke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Rivalling the Mauser both in terms of use and reputation was the British Lee-Enfield 0.303-inch rifle, which was issued to virtually all British soldiers on the Western Front (and many elsewhere).  First produced in 1907 and officially titled the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) Mark III, the name was derived from its designer (James Lee, an American) and its manufacturer (the Royal Small Arms Factory based in Enfield, London).&quot;
&quot;The Springfield, manufactured in the U.S. (at Springfield, Massachusetts), was the standard wartime rifle of the U.S. army.  It was reliable and produced in a short-barrelled version for issue to the American Expeditionary Force.  In short supply however around half of U.S. soldiers in the field were issued with the M1917 &#039;American Enfield&#039;.

The performance of the U.S. rifle was comparable to the British Lee-Enfield, and was also produced in a Mk1 automatic version.  The Springfield utilised a licensed Mauser action.  Derivatives of the Springfield remained in use until the Korean War.&quot;
http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/rifles.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rivalling the Mauser both in terms of use and reputation was the British Lee-Enfield 0.303-inch rifle, which was issued to virtually all British soldiers on the Western Front (and many elsewhere).  First produced in 1907 and officially titled the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) Mark III, the name was derived from its designer (James Lee, an American) and its manufacturer (the Royal Small Arms Factory based in Enfield, London).&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The Springfield, manufactured in the U.S. (at Springfield, Massachusetts), was the standard wartime rifle of the U.S. army.  It was reliable and produced in a short-barrelled version for issue to the American Expeditionary Force.  In short supply however around half of U.S. soldiers in the field were issued with the M1917 &#8216;American Enfield&#8217;.</p>
<p>The performance of the U.S. rifle was comparable to the British Lee-Enfield, and was also produced in a Mk1 automatic version.  The Springfield utilised a licensed Mauser action.  Derivatives of the Springfield remained in use until the Korean War.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/rifles.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/rifles.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Turboblocke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turboblocke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is the current Highway the one that was present when Hansen made his prediction? According to this site http://www.nycroads.com/roads/west-side/
the current highway wasn&#039;t completed until 2001.

&quot;Construction of the new West Side Highway began in April 1996. The first section of the project, between Clarkson Street and Horatio Street, was finished in August 1998. The entire &quot;NY 9A Reconstruction Project&quot; was completed in August 2001.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the current Highway the one that was present when Hansen made his prediction? According to this site <a href="http://www.nycroads.com/roads/west-side/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nycroads.com/roads/west-side/</a><br />
the current highway wasn&#8217;t completed until 2001.</p>
<p>&#8220;Construction of the new West Side Highway began in April 1996. The first section of the project, between Clarkson Street and Horatio Street, was finished in August 1998. The entire &#8220;NY 9A Reconstruction Project&#8221; was completed in August 2001.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Knights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the feedback on the bad machine gun. There is a book on another bad &quot;political&quot; weapons-decision, in a book called &lt;i&gt;The Great naval Battle of Ottawa.&lt;/i&gt; The Canadian PM insisted that the sonar for sub-detection be made locally, instead of importing it from Britain. Result: none of the hundreds of Canadian corvettes equipped with it sunk a single sub.

Here&#039;s another case. In the June 1981 Atlantic magazine, James Fallows published &quot;M-16: A Bureaucratic Horror Story.&quot; It described how the Army&#039;s ordnance department, feathers ruffled from criticism over having foisted the unworkable (too heavy a caliber) SKS assault rifle on NATO over the protests of the British and others, who wanted a light-caliber round similar to what the Germans and Russians had used effectively in WW II, sabotaged the AR-15 by inserting three requirements over the frenzied protests of its designer, a genius named Stoner at Armalite. 

The barrel twist had to be increased to improve accuracy (but this halved lethality); the ammunition had to be changed to a dirty-burning compound from Olin (because it was similar to the powder used in other weapons); and an insertion-assist had to be added to force home recalcitrant rounds (this added zero to effectiveness, but increased cost and weight). 

The original weapon, which can be bought from Armalite, is as good as the article says. But the Army still wouldn&#039;t back down from its mistaken specs, even after Congressional hearings exposed the Ordnance dept.&#039;s blunder. &quot;The system&quot; protects its own—and it recognized blood-brothers in the mediocrity and petty gamesmanship of the blunderers.

Fallows’ article isn’t available online yet, Fallows explains in his thread on the Atlantic’s site that articles from that date have to be scanned in and are still in a legal limbo. But you can obtain it by interlibrary loan—they may even make a free copy for you and mail it to you. Check with your library.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback on the bad machine gun. There is a book on another bad &#8220;political&#8221; weapons-decision, in a book called <i>The Great naval Battle of Ottawa.</i> The Canadian PM insisted that the sonar for sub-detection be made locally, instead of importing it from Britain. Result: none of the hundreds of Canadian corvettes equipped with it sunk a single sub.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another case. In the June 1981 Atlantic magazine, James Fallows published &#8220;M-16: A Bureaucratic Horror Story.&#8221; It described how the Army&#8217;s ordnance department, feathers ruffled from criticism over having foisted the unworkable (too heavy a caliber) SKS assault rifle on NATO over the protests of the British and others, who wanted a light-caliber round similar to what the Germans and Russians had used effectively in WW II, sabotaged the AR-15 by inserting three requirements over the frenzied protests of its designer, a genius named Stoner at Armalite. </p>
<p>The barrel twist had to be increased to improve accuracy (but this halved lethality); the ammunition had to be changed to a dirty-burning compound from Olin (because it was similar to the powder used in other weapons); and an insertion-assist had to be added to force home recalcitrant rounds (this added zero to effectiveness, but increased cost and weight). </p>
<p>The original weapon, which can be bought from Armalite, is as good as the article says. But the Army still wouldn&#8217;t back down from its mistaken specs, even after Congressional hearings exposed the Ordnance dept.&#8217;s blunder. &#8220;The system&#8221; protects its own—and it recognized blood-brothers in the mediocrity and petty gamesmanship of the blunderers.</p>
<p>Fallows’ article isn’t available online yet, Fallows explains in his thread on the Atlantic’s site that articles from that date have to be scanned in and are still in a legal limbo. But you can obtain it by interlibrary loan—they may even make a free copy for you and mail it to you. Check with your library.</p>
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		<title>By: P Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Philip T. Downman (23:23:42

It may very well be human, but science is cold and hard.

Future catastrophe and impending calamity, agreed, is as old as the race.

Such prognostications used to be the arm of religion - which increased their power - religions used to be straitjackets but since its hold over men&#039;s minds is less dominant, religions are now seductive  dressing gowns. The emotion of future calamity seems to have been transferred to science instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip T. Downman (23:23:42</p>
<p>It may very well be human, but science is cold and hard.</p>
<p>Future catastrophe and impending calamity, agreed, is as old as the race.</p>
<p>Such prognostications used to be the arm of religion &#8211; which increased their power &#8211; religions used to be straitjackets but since its hold over men&#8217;s minds is less dominant, religions are now seductive  dressing gowns. The emotion of future calamity seems to have been transferred to science instead.</p>
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