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	<title>Comments on: Video of Monckton&#8217;s Speech on Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty in Copenhagen</title>
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		<title>By: Bill P</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/18/video-of-moncktons-speech-on-obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty-in-copenhagen/#comment-245849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AFter all of these comments, has any of you read even a little bit of the IPCC report?   You can go to almost any section of that report and find disqualifying statements, and admissions of uncertainty.
 If it were not for &quot;if&quot; and &quot;may&quot; they could not have published anything.  Reminds me of a statement from 15 years ago. It all depends upon what the word &quot;is&quot; is!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFter all of these comments, has any of you read even a little bit of the IPCC report?   You can go to almost any section of that report and find disqualifying statements, and admissions of uncertainty.<br />
 If it were not for &#8220;if&#8221; and &#8220;may&#8221; they could not have published anything.  Reminds me of a statement from 15 years ago. It all depends upon what the word &#8220;is&#8221; is!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smokey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone please give Ed Darrell a shot of &lt;a href=&quot;http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/gorebot/TrollSpray-1.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please give Ed Darrell a shot of <a href="http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/gorebot/TrollSpray-1.jpg" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please leave this post up.  When Copenhagen is over, and Monckton&#039;s words make him look even more foolish, and less treasonous because what he claimed was going to happen didn&#039;t even get to the discussion phase, please paste it to the top of the blog so everyone can be reminded.

Thanks.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Be sure to leave all your posts up over there in bathtub land too, Ed. - A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please leave this post up.  When Copenhagen is over, and Monckton&#8217;s words make him look even more foolish, and less treasonous because what he claimed was going to happen didn&#8217;t even get to the discussion phase, please paste it to the top of the blog so everyone can be reminded.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Be sure to leave all your posts up over there in bathtub land too, Ed. &#8211; A</p>
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		<title>By: Fitzy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fitzy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take heart from the comments of the many contributors here, they remind me of the Dawn of the Dead remake, the words &quot;alive inside&quot; painted on the zombie beseiged mall roof. Given the Global situation they never seemed more appropriate. The New Zealand Government pushed through our ETS Scam under urgency a couple of days ago, unlike the Australians, our MP&#039;s lack the moral courage to denounce this repellent farce.  While local action may be appropriate, a global movement is needed, if any of us expect to retire on a planet free from tyranny. We&#039;ve got to stop believing we&#039;re speaking the same language as the doomsayers, when we say we&#039;re sceptical, they literally hear us say &quot;Burn more oil&quot;. Literally. We need a major, major MSM to broadcast a genuine and balance debate, its got to be transparent, so that leaves out the polarised usual suspects. Its got to be accessible by the public everywhere, at least to contribute questions. It can&#039;t be spun by any vested interest, and it needs to be NOW.  It also has to distance itself from disparaging invective, we&#039;re all in this together, if there are any idiots, look in the mirror, we all stood by while this went on. Get past that in yourself and get past that in others and lets have a real discussion, possibly for the first time in Human History. The calamity of this is that one loose thread reveals our species foible, all the fields of science should now be viewed as host to undue influence, just as the free market has been gamed, regularly, just as politics is By the Wealthy for the Wealthy.  

Thanks people, there&#039;s hope yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take heart from the comments of the many contributors here, they remind me of the Dawn of the Dead remake, the words &#8220;alive inside&#8221; painted on the zombie beseiged mall roof. Given the Global situation they never seemed more appropriate. The New Zealand Government pushed through our ETS Scam under urgency a couple of days ago, unlike the Australians, our MP&#8217;s lack the moral courage to denounce this repellent farce.  While local action may be appropriate, a global movement is needed, if any of us expect to retire on a planet free from tyranny. We&#8217;ve got to stop believing we&#8217;re speaking the same language as the doomsayers, when we say we&#8217;re sceptical, they literally hear us say &#8220;Burn more oil&#8221;. Literally. We need a major, major MSM to broadcast a genuine and balance debate, its got to be transparent, so that leaves out the polarised usual suspects. Its got to be accessible by the public everywhere, at least to contribute questions. It can&#8217;t be spun by any vested interest, and it needs to be NOW.  It also has to distance itself from disparaging invective, we&#8217;re all in this together, if there are any idiots, look in the mirror, we all stood by while this went on. Get past that in yourself and get past that in others and lets have a real discussion, possibly for the first time in Human History. The calamity of this is that one loose thread reveals our species foible, all the fields of science should now be viewed as host to undue influence, just as the free market has been gamed, regularly, just as politics is By the Wealthy for the Wealthy.  </p>
<p>Thanks people, there&#8217;s hope yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throughout recorded history there are some among us including elected officials with their own agenda who sought to control humanity by manipulating facts (valid science) using peoples inalienable fear of the unknown with hypothesis (incomplete science). 
Our most valuable possessions are our lives and our freedom both of which are at risk of surrender when we allow incomplete science to hypothesize about our future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throughout recorded history there are some among us including elected officials with their own agenda who sought to control humanity by manipulating facts (valid science) using peoples inalienable fear of the unknown with hypothesis (incomplete science).<br />
Our most valuable possessions are our lives and our freedom both of which are at risk of surrender when we allow incomplete science to hypothesize about our future.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Byan, great post.  Except for one thing.  You&#039;re looking through your telescope backwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byan, great post.  Except for one thing.  You&#8217;re looking through your telescope backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: byan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[byan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need more people like Lord Monckton .

Straight talk. Smart talk. Real answers.
He cuts through all the double speak with scoundrels like Al Gore who only gets richer ,fatter and clearly more plastic surgery preying on the people duped out of their money .

we all love America ,and want  the world to be a beautiful place for mankind ,and animals alike. stop paying these elitists who care not for anything, anyone
and just want more and more money .

the problem with America is that Most of the people are good people.
they refuse to believe that anyone who lived here could be evil .
thats whats killing us all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need more people like Lord Monckton .</p>
<p>Straight talk. Smart talk. Real answers.<br />
He cuts through all the double speak with scoundrels like Al Gore who only gets richer ,fatter and clearly more plastic surgery preying on the people duped out of their money .</p>
<p>we all love America ,and want  the world to be a beautiful place for mankind ,and animals alike. stop paying these elitists who care not for anything, anyone<br />
and just want more and more money .</p>
<p>the problem with America is that Most of the people are good people.<br />
they refuse to believe that anyone who lived here could be evil .<br />
thats whats killing us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Gregory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have replaced the Monckton presentation PDF file (17.4 MB) with a smaller file of selected slides from the presentation. It is now 7.3 MB with 86 slides, down from 174 slides.

The Friends of Science Society arranged and sponsored Lord Monckton to give a cross-Canada tour, September 29 - October 8, 2009. He gave presentations in five Canadian cities.
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=441

I am please that he was able to continue with speaking engagements in the USA.  We got a fair amount of media coverage of his talks in Canada, but he has been a lot more successful in getting media interest in the USA.

The Monckton presentation file on the Friends of Science website is linked to numerous websites has been viewed 50,765 times to date. At 17.4 MB, the bandwidth charges are excessive, so I reduced the file size.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have replaced the Monckton presentation PDF file (17.4 MB) with a smaller file of selected slides from the presentation. It is now 7.3 MB with 86 slides, down from 174 slides.</p>
<p>The Friends of Science Society arranged and sponsored Lord Monckton to give a cross-Canada tour, September 29 &#8211; October 8, 2009. He gave presentations in five Canadian cities.<br />
<a href="http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=441" rel="nofollow">http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=441</a></p>
<p>I am please that he was able to continue with speaking engagements in the USA.  We got a fair amount of media coverage of his talks in Canada, but he has been a lot more successful in getting media interest in the USA.</p>
<p>The Monckton presentation file on the Friends of Science website is linked to numerous websites has been viewed 50,765 times to date. At 17.4 MB, the bandwidth charges are excessive, so I reduced the file size.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Doubt what I say? Study History, my friends.

There will the super poor with the elite super rich to rule over them.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you disagree exactly with Patrick Buchanan&#039;s claim that poor people are breeding to take over the world?  You think Dr. No, SMERSH, Lex Luthor, Auric Goldfinger and Pinky and the Brain are trying to &lt;i&gt;reduce&lt;/i&gt; numbers instead?

For the past 5,000 years, power has tended to grow out of the size of any army one can field at critical times, not out of one&#039;s bank account.  But then, you may not put any stock in the claims of Christian and Jewish scripture, either.

You say you can deal with them when the time comes.  And if the time doesn&#039;t come, then what?

I&#039;ve studied history, and I gotta say your view is unique.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Doubt what I say? Study History, my friends.</p>
<p>There will the super poor with the elite super rich to rule over them.
</p></blockquote>
<p>So you disagree exactly with Patrick Buchanan&#8217;s claim that poor people are breeding to take over the world?  You think Dr. No, SMERSH, Lex Luthor, Auric Goldfinger and Pinky and the Brain are trying to <i>reduce</i> numbers instead?</p>
<p>For the past 5,000 years, power has tended to grow out of the size of any army one can field at critical times, not out of one&#8217;s bank account.  But then, you may not put any stock in the claims of Christian and Jewish scripture, either.</p>
<p>You say you can deal with them when the time comes.  And if the time doesn&#8217;t come, then what?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve studied history, and I gotta say your view is unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Pindar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pindar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[World government is the fist step in a program of mass depopulation. Chemicals and sterilizing agents in the food, air, water and vaccines is not enough.

The masses will be made too poor to resist our plans and by the time they wake up, it will be too late. The majority will already be dead or awaiting death in concentration camps. 

Doubt what I say? Study History, my friends.

There will the super poor with the elite super rich to rule over them.

The more extreme members of our brethren wish to exterminate the entire human race, but we feel we can deal with them once the time comes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World government is the fist step in a program of mass depopulation. Chemicals and sterilizing agents in the food, air, water and vaccines is not enough.</p>
<p>The masses will be made too poor to resist our plans and by the time they wake up, it will be too late. The majority will already be dead or awaiting death in concentration camps. </p>
<p>Doubt what I say? Study History, my friends.</p>
<p>There will the super poor with the elite super rich to rule over them.</p>
<p>The more extreme members of our brethren wish to exterminate the entire human race, but we feel we can deal with them once the time comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Now is the time to confront this challenge once and for all,” Mr. Obama said. “Delay is no longer an option. &lt;a href=&quot;//www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/us/politics/19climate.html”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Denial is no longer an acceptable response.&lt;/a&gt;”

Gordon Brown &lt;a href=&quot;//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8313672.stm”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link title&lt;/a&gt; warns of climate &#039;catastrophe&#039;. Gordon Brown said negotiators had 50 days “to save the world” from global warming

Indian, Chinese and Indonesian action and pledges on energy efficiency and renewable energy brought praise from Mr Miliband at the MEF summit.
But equally clear was the determination of those and other developing nations attending the talks that &lt;a href=&quot;”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; finance has to be right &lt;/a&gt; as a precondition of any deal.

&lt;a href=&quot;”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; US bank failures hit 100 for year&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8321970.stm”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Record recession for UK economy &lt;/a&gt;

So bankrupt US and the UK, Spain and Europe, because of their idiotic policies by which they hobble their power generation and production, are praising further idiotic policies in this direction.

India and China&#039;s economies are booming, not hobbled by these idiotic policies. But they say - hey we will produce cleaner power, but before we do so, please bankrupt USA and UK - can you please pay us to do so?

And what will they do? Produce less polluting power from coal and oil, which they should do anyway, while the west closes down its coal and oil plants because it imagines CO2 is a pollutant. 

The west will then buy their manufactured goods from China and India while they rapidly become third world countries and freeze in winter because they will no longer be able to provide warmth and shelter for their citizens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Now is the time to confront this challenge once and for all,” Mr. Obama said. “Delay is no longer an option. <a href="//www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/us/politics/19climate.html”" rel="nofollow"> Denial is no longer an acceptable response.</a>”</p>
<p>Gordon Brown <a href="//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8313672.stm”" rel="nofollow">link title</a> warns of climate &#8216;catastrophe&#8217;. Gordon Brown said negotiators had 50 days “to save the world” from global warming</p>
<p>Indian, Chinese and Indonesian action and pledges on energy efficiency and renewable energy brought praise from Mr Miliband at the MEF summit.<br />
But equally clear was the determination of those and other developing nations attending the talks that <a href="”" rel="nofollow"> finance has to be right </a> as a precondition of any deal.</p>
<p><a href="”" rel="nofollow"> US bank failures hit 100 for year</a></p>
<p><a href="//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8321970.stm”" rel="nofollow"> Record recession for UK economy </a></p>
<p>So bankrupt US and the UK, Spain and Europe, because of their idiotic policies by which they hobble their power generation and production, are praising further idiotic policies in this direction.</p>
<p>India and China&#8217;s economies are booming, not hobbled by these idiotic policies. But they say &#8211; hey we will produce cleaner power, but before we do so, please bankrupt USA and UK &#8211; can you please pay us to do so?</p>
<p>And what will they do? Produce less polluting power from coal and oil, which they should do anyway, while the west closes down its coal and oil plants because it imagines CO2 is a pollutant. </p>
<p>The west will then buy their manufactured goods from China and India while they rapidly become third world countries and freeze in winter because they will no longer be able to provide warmth and shelter for their citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Coolhead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coolhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read the UN draft, and there is absolute nothing in it that could be interpreted as a suggestion to establish any kind of a &quot;world government&quot;. Nothing! Clearly, Lord Monckton has a very vivid imagination and an extremely alarmist mindset.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the UN draft, and there is absolute nothing in it that could be interpreted as a suggestion to establish any kind of a &#8220;world government&#8221;. Nothing! Clearly, Lord Monckton has a very vivid imagination and an extremely alarmist mindset.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russia is looking at communist China and saying, “We can do that” and drop the laissez faire capitalism that they adopted in the 90&#039;s and patterned after the US following Russia&#039;s collapse. They&#039;ve had their problems with lazy faire capitalism with this latest world economic downturn and think they can do a one party communism like China does it. But China is actually a little more like fascism than communism.

The NY bankers like JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc... are terrorists... they&#039;ve created this debt bomb as a way to get trillion $ bailouts and what do they do with the bailout? They invest the money in Chinese car manufacturers and stuff and profit from it... instead of loaning money and extending credit to people. This is criminal! Also, they&#039;ve been working with corporations at how to make the US a one party communist/fascist system like China too. By bribes they accomplish this... creating the republicrats as Ralph Nader calls them. It appears that Monckton is a little late to the party but way ahead of the sheeple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia is looking at communist China and saying, “We can do that” and drop the laissez faire capitalism that they adopted in the 90&#8242;s and patterned after the US following Russia&#8217;s collapse. They&#8217;ve had their problems with lazy faire capitalism with this latest world economic downturn and think they can do a one party communism like China does it. But China is actually a little more like fascism than communism.</p>
<p>The NY bankers like JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc&#8230; are terrorists&#8230; they&#8217;ve created this debt bomb as a way to get trillion $ bailouts and what do they do with the bailout? They invest the money in Chinese car manufacturers and stuff and profit from it&#8230; instead of loaning money and extending credit to people. This is criminal! Also, they&#8217;ve been working with corporations at how to make the US a one party communist/fascist system like China too. By bribes they accomplish this&#8230; creating the republicrats as Ralph Nader calls them. It appears that Monckton is a little late to the party but way ahead of the sheeple.</p>
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		<title>By: supercritical</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[supercritical]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oliver,

Isn&#039;t Monckton&#039;s case set out in his powerpoint slides? It would be so nice for us all if you could find some fault with them, rather than him, wouldn&#039;t it? 

(PS. re school; you didn&#039;t cut that lesson on shoes, did you? )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Monckton&#8217;s case set out in his powerpoint slides? It would be so nice for us all if you could find some fault with them, rather than him, wouldn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>(PS. re school; you didn&#8217;t cut that lesson on shoes, did you? )</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Ramsay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oliver Ramsay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[supercritical  said:  (And the fact that you don’t like his latinisms is a non-sequitur … as is any other kind of ad-hominem, and so is a waste of good carbon dioxide!

it&#039;s obviously the season to be dusting off all the old Latin expressions we can muster for tossing out to make a point. Non sequitur is Latin, but it doesn&#039;t mean what you appear to think it means, and in English, ad hominem does not refer to any old time a person finds fault with another person. It is a personal attack that seeks to negate the argument of the person attacked.
  Also, while Anthony may well have the patience of a saint or of Job, sadly, your own contribution is right in there with the rest of us. OT? The thread is on Monckton&#039;s speech!

Iren said:  

The other point which he stressed over and over, and which is also perhaps relevant to the religious allusion, is that public policy MUST be based on the truth because, if it is not, then real catastrophes can result,


Clearly, you think mixing religion and science is fine. A pithy quote from the Bible is okay with me too, but going on about Pontius Pilate and the saviour of the world just because the passage contains the word veritas is pretty fishy, especially when he&#039;s just rendered Genesis, complete with chapter and verse.
I&#039;m surprised he didn&#039;t do it in Hebrew.

GeoS:
It&#039;s not my impression that the warmers are predominantly god-fearers, and I&#039;m not aware of any prominent warmer who disavows Gore.
However, bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>supercritical  said:  (And the fact that you don’t like his latinisms is a non-sequitur … as is any other kind of ad-hominem, and so is a waste of good carbon dioxide!</p>
<p>it&#8217;s obviously the season to be dusting off all the old Latin expressions we can muster for tossing out to make a point. Non sequitur is Latin, but it doesn&#8217;t mean what you appear to think it means, and in English, ad hominem does not refer to any old time a person finds fault with another person. It is a personal attack that seeks to negate the argument of the person attacked.<br />
  Also, while Anthony may well have the patience of a saint or of Job, sadly, your own contribution is right in there with the rest of us. OT? The thread is on Monckton&#8217;s speech!</p>
<p>Iren said:  </p>
<p>The other point which he stressed over and over, and which is also perhaps relevant to the religious allusion, is that public policy MUST be based on the truth because, if it is not, then real catastrophes can result,</p>
<p>Clearly, you think mixing religion and science is fine. A pithy quote from the Bible is okay with me too, but going on about Pontius Pilate and the saviour of the world just because the passage contains the word veritas is pretty fishy, especially when he&#8217;s just rendered Genesis, complete with chapter and verse.<br />
I&#8217;m surprised he didn&#8217;t do it in Hebrew.</p>
<p>GeoS:<br />
It&#8217;s not my impression that the warmers are predominantly god-fearers, and I&#8217;m not aware of any prominent warmer who disavows Gore.<br />
However, bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem!</p>
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