Ok, I might be rusty but Forth was fun.

I have noticed this too. It is not insignificant that those with absolutely nothing to lose (in terms of income), and the most experience to boot, are the most ardent sceptics.

I see the very same thing with respect to the Drug War. The police officials publicly speaking out against it are for the most part retired. We also saw this with the Drug Czar McCaffrey. Once he was retired he said he didn’t care about adults smoking pot, he just wanted to keep it out of the hands of kids.

Or as the Chinese say: “Honor dies where interest lies.”

Got a kick out of that!!! Another old FORTHer.

Simon’s Law:
It is unwise to attribute to malice alone that which can be attributed to malice and stupidity.

psi (11:04:58) :

This is outrageous, but not unpredictable for those who have been following this story. I support President Obama on many issues (as well as on his integrity and ability),

I think we all do; but prior DRE has, I think, unalterably and permanently skewed his perception of all around him (reality: he sees it not).
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“The European Commission is considering pursuing a legal fight with the EU’s top court over management of the EU Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS).”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8273016.stm

By Joseph D’Aleo, CCM, AMS Fellow

“The long term global temperature trends have been shown by numerous peer review papers to be exaggerated by 30%, 50% and in some cases much more by issues such as urbanization, land use changes, bad siting, bad instrumentation, and ocean measurement techniques that changed over time. NOAA made matters worse by removing the satellite ocean temperature measurement which provide more complete coverage and was not subject to the local issues except near the coastlines and islands. The result has been the absurd and bogus claims by NOAA and the alarmists that we are in the warmest decade in 100 or even a 1000 years or more and our oceans are warmest ever”.

You can find the full article and download a PDF at http://www.icecap.us First column

Shrinking because of lack of snowfall certainly isn’t the same as melting. But, is this what they’re measuring when they say the sheets are melting?

Another question…how fast is Greenland sinking because of the amount of ice?

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/HadCRUT3_accepted.pdf

Worth a read as much info on corrections is described.

For some stations both the adjusted and unadjusted time-series are archived at CRU and so the adjustments that have been made are known [Jones et al., 1985, Jones et al., 1986, Vincent & Gullet, 1999], but for most stations only a single series is archived, so any adjustments that might have been made (e.g. by National Met. services or individual scientists) are unknown.

Hold on —– It was formed 10 years earlier.
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/about/history/

History of the Climatic Research Unit
The Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was established in the School of Environmental Sciences (ENV) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) in Norwich in 1972…
Since its inception in 1972 until 1994, the only scientist who had a guaranteed salary from ENV/UEA funding was the Director. Every other research scientist relied on ‘soft money’ – grants and contracts – to continue his or her work. Since 1994, the situation has improved and now three of the senior staff are fully funded by ENV/UEA and two others have part of their salaries paid. The fact that CRU has and has had a number of long-standing research staff is testimony to the quality and relevance of our work. Such longevity in a research centre, dependent principally on soft money, in the UK university system is probably unprecedented. The number of CRU research staff as of the end of July 2007 is 15 (including those fully funded by ENV/UEA)…
The area of CRU’s work that has probably had the largest international impact was started in 1978 and continues through to the present-day: the production of the world’s land-based, gridded (currently using 5° by 5° latitude/longitude boxes) temperature data set. This involved many person-years of painstaking data collection, checking and homogenization. In 1986, this analysis was extended to the marine sector (in co-operation with the Hadley Centre, Met Office from 1989)

So the CRU was set up without US funding and the gridded set was begun before US funding

I love accurate blogs!

A new work of getting UNadjusted temperature series from around the world, etc. From sound stations, yes its so obvious it should be done.
I will happily help and so will many many others.

K.R. Frank Lansner

Would very much like to see your work.

K.R. Frank Lansner, fel@nnit.com