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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s disconnect with America on the climate issue</title>
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		<title>By: p.g.sharrow  "PG"</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/22/obamas-disconnect-with-america-on-the-climate-issue/#comment-193147</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pathological lier is not concerned with the accurateness of the facts used, just creating a good argument, &quot;If you can&#039;t convince them with what you know, then dazzle them with B.S.&quot; Obama is the best speachifier I have ever heard, the best law schools, finest argument presenter, ever. Now the great deceiver is also chair in the world government and he says &quot;follow me to a wonderful new future&quot;, they will for a while.
His time is nearly over, the house of cards that his life has been created from is beginning to collapse behind him. 2012 is the end of the Old ways and the beginning of the new. An unknown wise old man will set things on a new path.

                                                                 &quot;May you live in interesting times.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pathological lier is not concerned with the accurateness of the facts used, just creating a good argument, &#8220;If you can&#8217;t convince them with what you know, then dazzle them with B.S.&#8221; Obama is the best speachifier I have ever heard, the best law schools, finest argument presenter, ever. Now the great deceiver is also chair in the world government and he says &#8220;follow me to a wonderful new future&#8221;, they will for a while.<br />
His time is nearly over, the house of cards that his life has been created from is beginning to collapse behind him. 2012 is the end of the Old ways and the beginning of the new. An unknown wise old man will set things on a new path.</p>
<p>                                                                 &#8220;May you live in interesting times.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wattsupwiththat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah Scott, Holdren&#039;s a real gem of a scientist. This is well worth the read:

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Scott, Holdren&#8217;s a real gem of a scientist. This is well worth the read:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Cobb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott A. Mandia (16:46:28) :

&lt;i&gt;We finally have a leader in the White House that consults the scientific experts on these matters instead of his horoscope.&lt;/i&gt;
Yes, but what do these so-called &quot;experts&quot; consult?  They are more like the soothsayers of old, rather than scientists.   

&lt;i&gt;Clap, clap, clap, for a President that finally has intelligence and courage to try to do what is right for Americans and the rest of the world.&lt;/i&gt;

Shooting ourselves in the foot on energy policy, and further jeopardizing our already fragile economy can never be considered &quot;what is right&quot; for either America, or the world.  So, Boo, hiss, hiss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott A. Mandia (16:46:28) :</p>
<p><i>We finally have a leader in the White House that consults the scientific experts on these matters instead of his horoscope.</i><br />
Yes, but what do these so-called &#8220;experts&#8221; consult?  They are more like the soothsayers of old, rather than scientists.   </p>
<p><i>Clap, clap, clap, for a President that finally has intelligence and courage to try to do what is right for Americans and the rest of the world.</i></p>
<p>Shooting ourselves in the foot on energy policy, and further jeopardizing our already fragile economy can never be considered &#8220;what is right&#8221; for either America, or the world.  So, Boo, hiss, hiss.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Steven Chu should know how smart the American public, he’s got a Nobel Prize after all and has been a professor of renown for over 3 decades. But then obviously he doesn’t know as much about policy as Limbaugh right?&quot;

thurgood--What in the world does Limbaugh have to do with this? Focus on the issues and not the straw man. The point is, Chu is announcing that anyone who doesn&#039;t embrace and believe in AGW is a fool. In fact, he&#039;s equating the skeptics to &quot;teenage kids.&quot; How arrogant is that? I&#039;m dismayed that Chu--a former professor and winner of the Nobel Prize--is so quick to close his eyes to scientific debate, especially when there is obvious and substantial evidence that at the very least calls into question the theory of AGW (and yes, it is still nothing more than a theory).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Steven Chu should know how smart the American public, he’s got a Nobel Prize after all and has been a professor of renown for over 3 decades. But then obviously he doesn’t know as much about policy as Limbaugh right?&#8221;</p>
<p>thurgood&#8211;What in the world does Limbaugh have to do with this? Focus on the issues and not the straw man. The point is, Chu is announcing that anyone who doesn&#8217;t embrace and believe in AGW is a fool. In fact, he&#8217;s equating the skeptics to &#8220;teenage kids.&#8221; How arrogant is that? I&#8217;m dismayed that Chu&#8211;a former professor and winner of the Nobel Prize&#8211;is so quick to close his eyes to scientific debate, especially when there is obvious and substantial evidence that at the very least calls into question the theory of AGW (and yes, it is still nothing more than a theory).</p>
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		<title>By: evanmjones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evanmjones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;We should do nothing about GW. If it still happens this will be a great way to cull the Worlds population and the survivors WIN. OTOH if we do stop GW the population will continue to rise and the energy/food will fail and many will die and the earths population will again be reduced.&lt;/i&gt;

Aak! (POUND-POUND)

a.) Even if it does warm up a bit, or even quite a bit, things will be just fine (if history is any indication whatever).

b.) Energy/food will not fail; both will greatly increase, regardless (if history is any indication whatever).

&lt;i&gt;But then obviously he doesn’t know as much about policy as Limbaugh right?&lt;/i&gt;

Speaking as a liberal, judging by their respective public statements on the matter, I would be forced to say it would appear not . . .

And when has having a Nobel Prize and being a professor of renown for 30 years (strike two) ever resulted in an accurate appraisal of the intelligence of the American people? And compared with whom?

(Come to think of it, Americans do seem to win a disproportionate percentage of those Nobel Prizes. But please don&#039;t hold that against us!)

OTOH, since you want to play that game, a third of democrats think dubya did 911, so maybe Doc Chu has a point, at that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We should do nothing about GW. If it still happens this will be a great way to cull the Worlds population and the survivors WIN. OTOH if we do stop GW the population will continue to rise and the energy/food will fail and many will die and the earths population will again be reduced.</i></p>
<p>Aak! (POUND-POUND)</p>
<p>a.) Even if it does warm up a bit, or even quite a bit, things will be just fine (if history is any indication whatever).</p>
<p>b.) Energy/food will not fail; both will greatly increase, regardless (if history is any indication whatever).</p>
<p><i>But then obviously he doesn’t know as much about policy as Limbaugh right?</i></p>
<p>Speaking as a liberal, judging by their respective public statements on the matter, I would be forced to say it would appear not . . .</p>
<p>And when has having a Nobel Prize and being a professor of renown for 30 years (strike two) ever resulted in an accurate appraisal of the intelligence of the American people? And compared with whom?</p>
<p>(Come to think of it, Americans do seem to win a disproportionate percentage of those Nobel Prizes. But please don&#8217;t hold that against us!)</p>
<p>OTOH, since you want to play that game, a third of democrats think dubya did 911, so maybe Doc Chu has a point, at that!</p>
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		<title>By: Bulldust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bulldust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard (12:46:11) : 

Libya is on the UN Security Council:
http://www.un.org/sc/members.asp

Clearly our friend Gaddafi was describing himself :) He must have a sense of humour that man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard (12:46:11) : </p>
<p>Libya is on the UN Security Council:<br />
<a href="http://www.un.org/sc/members.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.un.org/sc/members.asp</a></p>
<p>Clearly our friend Gaddafi was describing himself :) He must have a sense of humour that man.</p>
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		<title>By: thurgood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thurgood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About 20% of registered Republicans are not sure if Obama is born in the US, so that&#039;s the next thing he&#039;s got to worry about.

Steven Chu should know how smart the American public, he&#039;s got a Nobel Prize after all and has been a professor of renown for over 3 decades.  But then obviously he doesn&#039;t know as much about policy as Limbaugh right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 20% of registered Republicans are not sure if Obama is born in the US, so that&#8217;s the next thing he&#8217;s got to worry about.</p>
<p>Steven Chu should know how smart the American public, he&#8217;s got a Nobel Prize after all and has been a professor of renown for over 3 decades.  But then obviously he doesn&#8217;t know as much about policy as Limbaugh right?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig D. Lattig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig D. Lattig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Tonita (09:50:49) : 

So…apparently the message here is one can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? That’s pretty lame. How many issues is he dealing with concurrently? Economy, health, war, climate…
...........
No Paul, no one here is questioning the Presidents intellegence or ability ....or that he is doing one of the toughest jobs in the world.
We do, however, have some doubts about his priorities.....
cdl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Tonita (09:50:49) : </p>
<p>So…apparently the message here is one can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? That’s pretty lame. How many issues is he dealing with concurrently? Economy, health, war, climate…<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
No Paul, no one here is questioning the Presidents intellegence or ability &#8230;.or that he is doing one of the toughest jobs in the world.<br />
We do, however, have some doubts about his priorities&#8230;..<br />
cdl</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a message from our Great Leader - John Key. He has led by example - he has shown us how each one of us can do their little bit in influencing &#039;Climate Change&#039; aka Anthropogenic Global Warming. 

And how has he done this? - By walking from his hotel to the UN venue - all 500 yards of it, after flying to New York from New Zealand by jet plane and going by car from the airport to his hotel, thereby reducing his carbon footprint and saving the world.

So next time you get home from work please follow my great leaders example. Stop your car at the end of your driveway and walk the rest of your way home. You will feel good about it and you will have contributed to saving the world.

Anthropogenic Global Warming is a real threat to the world. Our science advisor, who is a world renowned expert on premature babies says so. And the solution is simple. Switch off your lights and pay your taxes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a message from our Great Leader &#8211; John Key. He has led by example &#8211; he has shown us how each one of us can do their little bit in influencing &#8216;Climate Change&#8217; aka Anthropogenic Global Warming. </p>
<p>And how has he done this? &#8211; By walking from his hotel to the UN venue &#8211; all 500 yards of it, after flying to New York from New Zealand by jet plane and going by car from the airport to his hotel, thereby reducing his carbon footprint and saving the world.</p>
<p>So next time you get home from work please follow my great leaders example. Stop your car at the end of your driveway and walk the rest of your way home. You will feel good about it and you will have contributed to saving the world.</p>
<p>Anthropogenic Global Warming is a real threat to the world. Our science advisor, who is a world renowned expert on premature babies says so. And the solution is simple. Switch off your lights and pay your taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s speech seems sensible:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8270174.stm

Talks about building new coalitions and cooperation to solve world problems - sensible. 

The only thing that is not sensible is the endorsing of IPCC&#039;s way to tackling climate change.

&quot;His speech received warm but not effusive applause, a sign perhaps that in the face of real world problems the expectations surrounding the president are gradually being adjusted to reality&quot;. Adjusted to reality is right.

As for Gaddafi: &quot;It shouldn&#039;t be called the Security Council, it should be called the Terror Council&quot; yeah right from the guy who organised the Lockerbie bombing. We need to have him on the security council for it not be called the &quot;Terror Council&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s speech seems sensible:<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8270174.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8270174.stm</a></p>
<p>Talks about building new coalitions and cooperation to solve world problems &#8211; sensible. </p>
<p>The only thing that is not sensible is the endorsing of IPCC&#8217;s way to tackling climate change.</p>
<p>&#8220;His speech received warm but not effusive applause, a sign perhaps that in the face of real world problems the expectations surrounding the president are gradually being adjusted to reality&#8221;. Adjusted to reality is right.</p>
<p>As for Gaddafi: &#8220;It shouldn&#8217;t be called the Security Council, it should be called the Terror Council&#8221; yeah right from the guy who organised the Lockerbie bombing. We need to have him on the security council for it not be called the &#8220;Terror Council&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tonita</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Tonita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So...apparently the message here is one can&#039;t walk and chew gum at the same time? That&#039;s pretty lame. How many issues is he dealing with concurrently? Economy, health, war, climate...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;apparently the message here is one can&#8217;t walk and chew gum at the same time? That&#8217;s pretty lame. How many issues is he dealing with concurrently? Economy, health, war, climate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this quote from Energy Secretary Steven Chu:

“The American public…just like your teenage kids, aren’t acting in a way that they should act,” Dr. Chu said. “The American public has to really understand in their core how important this issue [climate change] is.”

Translation: &quot;You just aren&#039;t smart enough to figure out this climate change stuff, so shut up, sit down, and hand over your tax dollars.&quot; 

He left out (with a nod to Mike86): &quot;And you&#039;re grounded until you learn how to appropriately embrace climate change!!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this quote from Energy Secretary Steven Chu:</p>
<p>“The American public…just like your teenage kids, aren’t acting in a way that they should act,” Dr. Chu said. “The American public has to really understand in their core how important this issue [climate change] is.”</p>
<p>Translation: &#8220;You just aren&#8217;t smart enough to figure out this climate change stuff, so shut up, sit down, and hand over your tax dollars.&#8221; </p>
<p>He left out (with a nod to Mike86): &#8220;And you&#8217;re grounded until you learn how to appropriately embrace climate change!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Schoneveld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Schoneveld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vincent (07:31:48) :

Well said!  And, again, this applies to most leaders in the world. Obama is no exception, unfortunately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent (07:31:48) :</p>
<p>Well said!  And, again, this applies to most leaders in the world. Obama is no exception, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashtoreth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashtoreth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its interesting the level of control that our &#039;leaders&#039; seem to think they can get away with at the moment.
Fuelled by the conspiracy of corrupt politicians, greedy media publishers and the people behind the curtain.

One wonders what they will do if the globe continues to cool as it has in recent years? There comes a point when the public (who arent stupid so much as misinformed) decide the message is fake. At which point, continuing to beggar them on behalf of that message tends to lead to somewhat violent protest.

The people in charge of the current scam obviously think that they have enough control that nothing will happen. I do wonder if they read history....which shows that no matter how much control you have, at some point it all falls apart. And the longer you keep the lid on, the more violent the backlash is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its interesting the level of control that our &#8216;leaders&#8217; seem to think they can get away with at the moment.<br />
Fuelled by the conspiracy of corrupt politicians, greedy media publishers and the people behind the curtain.</p>
<p>One wonders what they will do if the globe continues to cool as it has in recent years? There comes a point when the public (who arent stupid so much as misinformed) decide the message is fake. At which point, continuing to beggar them on behalf of that message tends to lead to somewhat violent protest.</p>
<p>The people in charge of the current scam obviously think that they have enough control that nothing will happen. I do wonder if they read history&#8230;.which shows that no matter how much control you have, at some point it all falls apart. And the longer you keep the lid on, the more violent the backlash is.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much too worrying to ignore

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/melting_ice_caps_expose_hundreds]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much too worrying to ignore</p>
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