The 2006 summer melt was less than the 2005 melt, and the 2007 “melt” was by far the greatest since 1979; 2008 was a lot less, and 2009 is going to be less yet.

So where did you get your data; the graphs are up ther on the right hand side, and the JAXA website can give your the actual areas remaining ?

George

“Would be interesting to see another growth next year. It would be the first time since 1979 that we would have three years of growth.
I want to see the results next year.”

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Winter extents: 2007, 2008, and 2009 all were greater than 2006.

Summer melt:
2006 was greater than 2005;
2008 greater than 2007,
2009 greater than 2007 (by 25%) and 2008 (by 14%).

“Roger, What do you think icebreakers do?”

I wasn’t denying that they break ice when I said “ridiculous.” I was characterizing your ridiculous claim that people don’t believe that icebreakers break ice. Here’s what you said:

“This what icebreakers do in the Arctic. (break ice)
Some of course will not believe this.”

Name one person who disputes that fact.

While you’re at it, name one commercial ship that is “busting through the Southern route of the NW Passage.“

Why don’t post a link instead of bloviating, but take a look at the DMI-site first (on the right of this blog).

Which is completely irrelevant to the subject of ‘Arctic warming’, hint: would you measure the temperature of a room by putting the thermometer in an iced drink?

The US, and Canada, and the Russkies all have a bunch ov vandals running artound up there in steels hips, breaking up the ice sheets so the wind and tides can blow it all out of there.

I think Green piece and the Sierra Club should sue to get these destructive vehicles out of the Arctic ocean.

Here we are complaining about ice sheets in Antarctica breaking up from natural causes, and we have hoodlums busting up the arctic ice willy nilly; shameful !

George

Why don’t post a link instead of bloviating, but take a look at the DMI-site first (on the right of this blog).

REPLY: Oh we are, and you should too, such as questioning “what caused it”?

Thanks for the link to the Piers Corbyn interview.
For me very much a “But of course!” moment.

Also this graphic: http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20090908_Figure3.png
I shows that 2005, 2007, 2008 and 2009 are the lowest since 1979.
So this is a longer trend.
Looking at the graph, the blue line points to the top of 2009 (highest in the last three years) and top of 2005 (also a high point). Does not seem like overblowing it. In my view, I would have placed the blue line through 2008 because 2009 seems like a peak.

We are back to the usual 10% sea ice lost per decade (8.7%). So summer ice free by 2100 still makes sense.

Would be interesting to see another growth next year. It would be the first time since 1979 that we would have three years of growth.
I want to see the results next year.
With El Nino kicking in, if we can have growth again, it would be extraordinary.

Can anyone see a growing trend in there?

“Across the Pole is the Northeast Passage to China along the top of Norway & Russia. Sebastian Cabot initiated its search in 1553. Henry Hudson twice attempted a passage but it was not until 1879 that the route was navigated. Now Russia currently operates 160 freighters on summer schedules in the Northeast Passage’s more open but colder waters.”

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,770864-2,00.html

What do you think icebreakers do?

And how do you think they supply all the towns in the Arctic?
Of course they ship the goods in in the Summer.

A comment, and two questions though:
1) The first graph should be “1979 – 2007 average” – The digits in the label are transposed and now say “1997 – 2007 average.”

No, it’s 1997-2007. That’s why it’s lower than 1996. They’re not showing a very long term here.

Ridiculous.