Since Latin was the language of science in Newtons time it would be quite interesting to see if there are still people alive who can do physics in it (today nobody reads Newton because they either do not understand the language or the subject; but I did have a physics professor who was said to speak it fluently).

But when in Rome (GA 30161), do as the Romans do. And when a friendly soul helps you, it it elegant to say thanks.

The same extrapolation was used to ban coolant around the world with the intention of saving the ozone layer, only to discover recently that chlorine has no effect on it at all. I saw this sometime not too long ago, but did not keep the source, but if anyone is interested, I will attempt to locate it.

“…sorry that English is not my main language. Should we turn to French? Or Dutch? Or Latin? Or Greek? Spanish? Turkish?”

Amazing! Flanagan is completely wrong in half a dozen different languages. Someboidy contact Guiness! This must surely be a new record.

Flanagan has some strange ideas, but de gustibus non est disputandum… esso si, que es.

I post global month end sea ice averages, the day NOAA/NSIDC releases them. I included 2007 figures because the Arctic minimum is approaching and I thought people might find the reference useful. I find that constantly looking at anomalies, leads to a situation where many have forgotten, what the actual values are. The 30yr and last year reference merely helps frame variation range. It was not intended to establish long term trends. There are plenty of graphs available. This is just to get the actual numbers out there and to remind people, that there is still a lot of ice. I do not think monthly reports on extent have broad significance. Many are shocked by the actual values and will not believe them until I post the actual plates. (Don’t forget, graphs require links, which are not always desirable nor possible. Brevity is best)

When reaction no longer happens, I will probably quit. There has been no lessening of reaction in the last 2 yrs, so I guess I’ll carry on. I only post my global extent report here, occasionally, when a related subject is being discussed. Most people here have a realistic view of ice and so there is less requirement for reminding. If anyone here finds it not useful and requests it stopped… I’ll not post my report here again. Are you requesting I stop??

Your post earlier was great. but I have to ask, what makes you think CO2 has an effect on climate? I ask because you seem like you know what you’re talking about and I’ve never heard an acceptable explanation as to how the association works. I understand the physics behind how it works in a controlled laboratory setting, but I don’t understand how it can be successfully extrapolated to a much more complex and highly variable system such as our planet’s atmosphere.

Kevin-
You can compose your message in MS Word, or even in Outlook Express, then copy/cut and paste the message into the WUWT comment block. Either method allows you to use a larger font for easier reading.
Alternatively, if you are using the same Google/MS home page as I am, there is a selection “Page” just above and to the right of what you are reading. Click on “Page” and you will see “Zoom”. Click on that and select the degree of enlargement you desire for the screen. I read all web pages at 150%.

Thanks. Yes, I could do this as well–I just don’t think to take the extra two steps when I am excited about something. Occasionally I’ll write a post on the commentary boards of the WSJ, and their weblog allows an edit after submission until one navigates away from the page. It is very convenient. I had hoped for something similar here. I may take your advice and use notepad or some such.

Kevin-
You can compose your message in MS Word, or even in Outlook Express, then copy/cut and paste the message into the WUWT comment block. Either method allows you to use a larger font for easier reading.
Alternatively, if you are using the same Google/MS home page as I am, there is a selection “Page” just above and to the right of what you are reading. Click on “Page” and you will see “Zoom”. Click on that and select the degree of enlargement you desire for the screen. I read all web pages at 150%.

IanM

Before you write any more posts on Greenland and make inaccurate comparisons between the MWP version of the island and today’s, can I suggest you read ‘The Viking World’

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-World-Routledge-Worlds/dp/0415333156

It is a very scholarly work with numerous academic studies of the Vikings settlement of Greenland, its growth and subsequent decline. It was undoubtedly a much more hospitable place 1000 years ago than it is now.

I borrowed it from our local library as it is a very expensive book-I do not know if the same facility exists in Belgium.

best regards and happy reading

tonyb

“Richard: no unknown cooling, but related to precession of earth rotational axis. Please read my link.”

Did you read the press release? It indicates that orbital changes are what has been claimed to cause the cooling. So, it’s more than just precession.

” the result of a wobble in Earth’s rotation that has been increasing the distance between the sun and Earth and decreasing Arctic summer sunshine.”

On to more nonsense …

“Still bad news for sketpics. But that’s life, ok?”

Chuckle, chuckle … it’s looks like more bad news for the Team. Still using Tiljander upside down, still picking and choosing only the proxies that support their predetermined conclusions, still withholding data. Those who support this nonsense look very silly indeed. You really want to be in that group?

The skeptics look better all the time. Not so much for the blind faithful.

http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/images/l1_yakushima.gif

Thanks, also. That is an interesting graph, and it suggests 1600-1700, doesn’t it? The literature on these topics is simply vast, and one of the great services of a site like WUWT is that it connects so many people who have one piece or another of the puzzle.

Peter: yes, sorry that English is not my main language. Should we turn to French? Or Dutch? Or Latin? Or Greek? Spanish? Turkish?

If you are using IE you can install the google task bar which has a spell checking capability (not great but catches simple errors). For example, I just used it here and noticed you combined “to” and “spot” above.

Thanks. I’m going to give this a try, but it may help only a little. I am a very poor typist and my eyesight is becoming awful at short range.

Pity they did not use them all, I wonder why?

I’ve been reading over at CA this afternoon, and I must say I am stunned–stunned is the only description I can offer. I have not been following any of this story for a long time now, and thought that the Hockey Stick had “died in its sleep” some time back. What is it about the Hockey Stick that makes otherwise sensible people involve themselves in very bad science?

In my earlier post (above) I alluded to how climate reconstruction using borehole temperature records in soil and rock had a connection with the Hockey Stick and with some issues of scienctific ethics. It is not a simple story that one should tell in a posting here. Perhaps I’ll make a suggestion over on tips and notes to WUWT.

Thanks, again, for the heads up, Mitchel44. I am quite surprised that this has become topical again.