Comments on: An odd day in solar science, it’s mostly a waiting game http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/ The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:52:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Ron PE http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-182137 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:38:37 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-182137 Slightly related topic:
Telegraphs Ran on Electric Air in Crazy 1859 Magnetic Storm
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/telegraphs-ran-on-electric-air-in-crazy-magnetic-storm-150-years-ago/

]]> By: Steve Schaper http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-182105 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:27:41 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-182105 I think I see a tiny little plaque in the lower left equatorial region (thus Cycle 23?). Either than or its a stuck pixel.

]]> By: Ron de Haan http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181538 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:12:49 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181538 Good article about the sun and Global Warming from the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg1-2009sep01,0,2797425.column

]]> By: Ray http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181428 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:35:29 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181428 What I find strange about the sunspects we saw is that the visible spects were seen before anything on the magnetogram… was it conveniently off line?

]]> By: rob uk http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181411 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:52:24 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181411 Geoff Sharp (18:49:05) :
Layman’s sunspots.

Why not just run a 200 year repro telescope along side the latest gear, if you can`t see the speck with the repro don`t count it, apples with apples.

]]> By: Gerry http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181402 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:34:39 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181402 Invisible as it may be, NOAA is sticking with the SSN-12 speck on Sept 1. See http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/sept/swcenter/sunspot.html

I guess even a speck momentarily visible in just the last hour of August and the first hour of September would count for both days by NOAA’s present method of reckoning.

]]> By: rbateman http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181355 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:06:10 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181355 Mr. Alex (07:47:33) :

The Sun was blank when it rose yesterday on the Pacific Coast. It’s been blank ever since then, but today has a SSN value of 12.

Jimmy Haigh (04:09:45) :

Maybe they need to go to AAA (Astronomer-Alcoholics Anonymous)??

Geoff Sharp (02:48:36) :

Not a bad idea. Who has actually seen Catania?

]]> By: Mr. Alex http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181313 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:47:33 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181313 Today the sun is blank and the sunspot number is 12.
August was blank, no spots see : http://www.solen.info/solar/
Scroll down, the International Sunspot Number for August 2009 is : 0.0
The Average solar flux at Earth for August 2009 is 67.3

Shouldn’t the candidate month of sunspot minimum move to January 2009 now?

]]> By: Paul Coppin http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181278 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:32 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181278 Bill H (18:22:39) :

How has the observatory fared? anyone know?

Good, so far. They’ve managed to reduce the Station fire enough to give them an edge.
The webcam went off yesterday afternoon, believed to be due to backfires set to create a firebreak burning up a phone line. The fire dept has made saving the obs a priority now that they can re-allocate fighters. There’s a log of sorts being maintained at http://www.chara.gsu.edu/CHARA/fire.php and Fox has live web coverage going on here: http://media.myfoxla.com/live/

]]> By: Jimmy Haigh http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181250 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:09:45 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181250 Geoff Sharp (02:48:36) :

rbateman (01:21:18) :

I get spots before my eyes the morning after I’ve drunk too much. Maybe the guys in Catania have been on the old vino?…

]]> By: Geoff Sharp http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181227 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:48:36 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181227 rbateman (01:21:18) :

Catania manages to count both the 1st and the 2nd of September with a spot that did not last 24 hours, slapping up thier AR report with Day 2.
DSD.txt shows up with Sept 1 & 2nd.
SOHO shows nothing but noise in the images for 19:01 UT and 23:03 UT Sept 1st. 03:08 UT Sept 2 is likewise blank.
This is not the 1st time this sort of thing has come up, and if I recall correctly it’s happened more than once.

Maybe a few of us could send them an email…ask them to explain why they are so different from the other 62 stations?

]]> By: rbateman http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181197 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:21:18 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181197 Catania manages to count both the 1st and the 2nd of September with a spot that did not last 24 hours, slapping up thier AR report with Day 2.
DSD.txt shows up with Sept 1 & 2nd.
SOHO shows nothing but noise in the images for 19:01 UT and 23:03 UT Sept 1st. 03:08 UT Sept 2 is likewise blank.
This is not the 1st time this sort of thing has come up, and if I recall correctly it’s happened more than once.

]]> By: Ed Zuiderwijk http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181189 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:43:56 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181189 The magnetogram of today (Sep 2) is quite interesting. The fading current attempt to a spot is clearly visible and of cycle 24. However at the equator some structures are discernable with the polarity of cycle 23. Perhaps another C23 spot is in the offing? (If so, should we call that an EZ effect ? :-) )

]]> By: Mike Lorrey http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181165 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:30:01 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181165 The community in which the Mt Wilson fire started was, prior to the fire, discussing laying off firefighters to save on the budget. Funny that the biggest wildfire in state history should pop up then to save firemens jobs…. almost as if someone set the fire for job security.

]]> By: Bill H http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/an-odd-day-in-solar-science-its-mostly-a-waiting-game/#comment-181164 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:25:48 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.com/?p=10427#comment-181164 Geoff Sharp (23:02:52) :

Bill H (22:48:22) :

SIDC doesn’t give NOAA 1025 a number …

Only commented on the anomaly….

http://sidc.oma.be/products/meu/index.php

SO is the spotless count still running?

We are in an interesting position. SIDC have all month to think about it, and as they are considered the standard (?) do we stop racking up the days and wait until the end of the month? If so and the result is negative it will be quite a bombshell, something like 82 days spotless if we continue the current trend.

Well….. IF they fail to count it we have just set a new record TODAY! and then every day we continue spotless…. will they let this fester or will they pop the pimple?

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