AB32 doesn’t have anything to do with cleaner air; it is simply a taxing bill.

California is burdened with State employee pension programs that simply are not sustainable in a capitalist society. They work for a few years; and then retire often at age 55, with a taxpayer funded gravy train that within five years has them collecting as much or more than they were getting before they retired. And many of them simply move on to another town, another agency, and go back to work at another excessive state salary; while still collecting their unsupportable “pension”.

The State Constitution needs to be changed to make ALL State employees including the legislature subject to the same laws that everyone else is; and they should be required to pay into the Social security program just like every other worker, and that social security program should be the only state employee “pension” fund; other than what the employee wants to salt away in a 401K type program on their own. In any case, no public employee should be able to colelct a dime of any taxpayer funded retirement, until they retire; and that should be suspended if they take any other government job.

Congress is exempting itself and also the President, from the miseries of the Socialized medicine plan they are about to land on us, without anyone in the entire Congress having read any of it; they don’t even know just who it was that wrote it.

It’s time to require that each Bill in the Congress be limited strictly to a single issue; with no amendments relating to anything not germane to that issue; and all Federal budgets should be restricted to cover only expenditures in the year in which it is passed; no expenditures approved for ANY spending in any subsequent year.
These chumps are approving spending that will not happen till years after they leave office.

Oh and I would make all government employees tax exempt; no income tax for them; of course their salaries would be reduced accordingly . That would rmeove the phony notion that government employees are taxpayers; they are not; they are tax consumers. I make no value judgement as to whether we need certain government workers; but those we do need should not pay taxes (income) Don’t talk to me about FAIR taxes, and VATs. You can only tax a profit making renewable resource; which is income.
We have millions of retiured folks who paid income taxes all their earning lives, and then when they stop earning, some idiots want to switch the system to a consumption tax, to continue bleeding those folks of what they managed to save.

Government by definition is non profit; hence government workers can’t pay taxes anyway; and getting rid of the beaurocarices that exist just to manage the fictitious tax “payments” that government employees go through the motions for; simply raises the cost of government for no purpose.

What the heck are we talking about this stuff here for ?

As a life-long Californian, I love it here in northern California and would recommend anybody that wants to leave should feel free to do so – the state is getting a little crowded. I have little love for southern California, for many reasons, but if anybody wants to leave there, it will probably help out the overpopulation problem there as well. Sad to see so many California-bashers are willing to criticize our Golden State. Sometimes it seems like everybody in the world wants to move here, so there must be something about California that appeals to people. Maybe more bad news about our anti-business environment will keep out more people, but unfortunately, I think we will always have more people than we can handle.

Something else about Niello – he has spent the last year studying in detail the referendum process. It had to do with funky language used by AG Brown vis a vi the gay marriage prop, but experience is experience. It’ll work here too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8607095

“Investment advisors and asset managers could be sued for negligence if they do not consider the environment and other social issues when making investment decisions, a United Nations report said on Tuesday.
Money managers have a legal responsibility to raise environmental, social and governance (ESG) issues when tendering investment and advising clients, a law expert and one of the report’s authors said.
“(There is a) very real risk that (the advisor) will be sued for negligence on the grounds that they failed to discharge their professional duty of care to the client by failing to raise and take into account ESG considerations,” said Paul Watchman.”

The same formula is applied on a National level causing the debt thermometer to point at staggering $ 55.000,- per household.
And the end of this roller coaster ride is NOT in sight:

http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2009/07/borrowing-spending-and-regulating-oh-my.html

http://www.rocklintoday.com/news/templates/roger_niello.asp?articleid=7885&zoneid=78

“…Wealth is stuff, in particular it is stuff that makes life comfortable….”

Oil, Food, Money and Politics – they are all intertwined so I suggest all here at Watts up learn about MONEY vs WEALTH and the Federal Reserve bank. This is key to understanding the reasons behind the supposed “Banking Crisis”, the “Food Safety bills” and “Global Warming”

Money is metal coins, currency (bank IOU’s) and credit (fairy dust). US Money’s only value is in its use as a medium of exchange instead of direct barter. (pay those taxes with chicken eggs next time)

Wealth is land and the labor to turn it into useful goods/food. The food safety bills make paperwork errors a crime for farmers with up to a million in fines per occurance. This is an easy way for the US government to confiscate farmland. (Environmentalism is designed to retain the mineral wealth of that land until the bankers can confiscate it) http://yupfarming.blogspot.com/2009/04/central-food-patriot-act-hr-875.html

Food Safety Bill, HR875 was jumped on by me and many others so was withdrawn. Obama set up a committee from the USDA and FDA to implement it by bypassing Congress instead. http://www.growingproduce.com/news/avg/?storyid=2146

The key to what is happening is fractional reserve banking. It means when the bank loaned you $100,000 for a house they really lent you $3,000 and the rest was fairy dust. However they collect the entire $100,000 plus interest that represents your labor. So tell me how banks could “fail” with a great setup like this. The Original Federal Reserve Act required a fractional reserve of 40% so a bank could fail, with only 3% bank money invested you really have to F…Up!

Thats to the “banking Crisis”, Obama doubled the money supply (treasury bonds) and given the use of fractional banking to turn ever three dollars worth of bonds the banks buy into $100 of US money, the stability and status of US currency will soon take a nose dive. China is already restless calling for a world currency to replace the dollar in international trade.

“Luo Ping, a director-general at the China Banking Regulatory Commission, put it more bluntly:
“We hate you guys. Once you start issuing $1 trillion-$2 trillion [$1,000bn-$2,000bn] . . .we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys but there is nothing much we can do.”
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/the-ticker/2009/03/13/signs-of-stress-warren-buffetts-downgrade-chinas-treasury-jitters.html

I did a check of the 1970 vs 1996 census/labor statistics. Manufacturing jobs have decreased. Government jobs are supposedly the same but given EPA, OSHA et al that has to be a artifact of switching how they count jobs now. The Carbon Tax will finish off the decline in US manufacturing EPA, OSHA and the World Trade Organization started.

Maurice Strong has setup a “consulting business” in China so Carbon Tax dollars from Gore’s “only sanction carbon exchange” can be invested in China….And when the USA has finally achieved bankruptcy the international bankers will demand a “land for debt swap” or something similar to World Bank/IMf SAP that has bankrupted many third world farmers. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/IMF_WB/Budhoo_IMF.html

Our politicos are not crazy, they are bought and paid for….and not by US citizens.
Checkout PARTNERS IN CRIME: The Clintons, the Bushes, and BCCI
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/347

(Note the source is from the democrats…)

Starr himself (bank rolled the Clintons) may have been personally involved in BCCI-related corruption. Here’s what a former senior editor for Forbes has to say:

http://192.80.61.73/view/1996/norman.html

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong, father of “global warming” Al Gore’s good buddy and advisor to the World Bank.

“A Primer on Money” by the house Banking Committee is a surprisingly easy read that explains a lot (http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_October/Patman_Primer_on_Money.pdf)

If the Right, Center AND Left realize we are all being brainwashed and fleeced by greedy bankers perhaps we have a chance to fight this intentional murder of our country.

The problem with that is it has to pass through the legislature and then get signed by Arnold.
Neither of those things are going to happen.

As in all thinks moral and prudent that happen in Calif, this has to go over their heads. A repeal referendum of the general public is the only way.

Thanks for the tip though. If Dan Logue can write an assembly bill, he can write a State proposition.

Half way home. ;)

California Assemblyman Dan Logue already has a bill authored to do just that. He could use your support. The bill is AB 118.

http://arc.asm.ca.gov/member/3/?p=article&sid=209&id=219065

I am going to repeal AB32. Me.
All by my lonesome if I have to, but it will go smoother with your help.
You have a business in California? What’s cheaper, packing up and relocating to the deserts of Nevada, bending over while the democrats and their braindead following try to extinguish the human footprint (ie: paying up the $50K), or paying someone to write up the repeal, getting the necessary petition signatures, putting it on the ballot, then watching the stupid looks on the democratic legislatures faces as it is repealed by over 2/3rds majority in supposedly liberal California?

I know which one of those options I like.

I am staying.
I am going to repeal AB32. Me. This is the line in the sand. The great battle of our time.

There was a joke during socialism: students in Armenian University ask their professor:
“Mr Professor, is it possible once to built a communism in Armenia?”
“Well, yes, but .. why not to try it in Azerbaijan first?”
(Armenians and Azerbaijanis were definitely not in love)
Or as somebody other told – “the best cure against socialism is to implement it for some time.”

Communism is that long, hard road from capitalism to capitalism.