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	<title>Comments on: UAH Global Temperature Anomaly for June 09 ~ ZERO</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Silverman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello. I&#039;m wondering whether I can post on old threads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I&#8217;m wondering whether I can post on old threads.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter S</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GISS and HADCRUT need to keep that trend line pointing upwards otherwise all hell will break loose. Their agenda is:-
1. While an extended solar minimum exists we cannot show that the Sun has a major impact on Climate and that man has nothing to do with it. 
2, We must retain our tax payer funded jobs at all costs.
3. Our governments love the idea to impose an extra tax.
4. We must ensure Al keeps his prize.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GISS and HADCRUT need to keep that trend line pointing upwards otherwise all hell will break loose. Their agenda is:-<br />
1. While an extended solar minimum exists we cannot show that the Sun has a major impact on Climate and that man has nothing to do with it.<br />
2, We must retain our tax payer funded jobs at all costs.<br />
3. Our governments love the idea to impose an extra tax.<br />
4. We must ensure Al keeps his prize.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If possible could someone please explain the discrepancy between these two different readings? Basically the following report says that the June 2009 anamoly was a +0.62 C. What am I missing? Is the difference due to a different starting point? Thanks for helping to educate me. 

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2009/jun/global.html#temp]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If possible could someone please explain the discrepancy between these two different readings? Basically the following report says that the June 2009 anamoly was a +0.62 C. What am I missing? Is the difference due to a different starting point? Thanks for helping to educate me. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2009/jun/global.html#temp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2009/jun/global.html#temp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Leddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Leddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[can&#039;t we just say the evidence is in....There is none.

The new report shows that the IPCC has failed to provide any empirical evidence that shows that dangerous human-caused global warming is occurring. In particular: 
•	The 20th century was not the warmest in the last 1,000 years;

•	No evidence exists that any measurable amount of the rise in global temperature over the last 50 years is a result of human influence;

•	Current rates of ice/glacier melt are not unusual;

•	Current weather (including tropical storms, droughts and floods) is not unusual;

•	Current sea-level change is occurring at rates typical of recent times;

•	No correlation has been demonstrated between increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide and dangerous temperature rise.

The NIPCC report is available for purchase or free download, at http://www.nipccreport.org/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t we just say the evidence is in&#8230;.There is none.</p>
<p>The new report shows that the IPCC has failed to provide any empirical evidence that shows that dangerous human-caused global warming is occurring. In particular:<br />
•	The 20th century was not the warmest in the last 1,000 years;</p>
<p>•	No evidence exists that any measurable amount of the rise in global temperature over the last 50 years is a result of human influence;</p>
<p>•	Current rates of ice/glacier melt are not unusual;</p>
<p>•	Current weather (including tropical storms, droughts and floods) is not unusual;</p>
<p>•	Current sea-level change is occurring at rates typical of recent times;</p>
<p>•	No correlation has been demonstrated between increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide and dangerous temperature rise.</p>
<p>The NIPCC report is available for purchase or free download, at <a href="http://www.nipccreport.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nipccreport.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert A Cook PE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert A Cook PE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CoBEn2000 (07:23:26) :

I’m sure evryone is looking at the same data here but interpreting it differently depending on your understanding of the whole picture. I see a slight but upward trend over many yrs, the latest dip is but a statistical ANOMALY. 

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Yes.  Temperatures have been steadily rising since the mid-1600&#039;s.   A LONG ways before any so-called CO2-induced global warming.

Fact remains, for all but 25 years of the past 230 years, CO2 has been flat while temperatures have risen, CO2 has been increasing while temperatures have fallen, and CO2 has been increasing while temperatures have stayed the same.   Now, just what IS the relationship between CO2 and temperature that we are spending 9 trillion dollars on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoBEn2000 (07:23:26) :</p>
<p>I’m sure evryone is looking at the same data here but interpreting it differently depending on your understanding of the whole picture. I see a slight but upward trend over many yrs, the latest dip is but a statistical ANOMALY. </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Yes.  Temperatures have been steadily rising since the mid-1600&#8242;s.   A LONG ways before any so-called CO2-induced global warming.</p>
<p>Fact remains, for all but 25 years of the past 230 years, CO2 has been flat while temperatures have risen, CO2 has been increasing while temperatures have fallen, and CO2 has been increasing while temperatures have stayed the same.   Now, just what IS the relationship between CO2 and temperature that we are spending 9 trillion dollars on?</p>
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		<title>By: CoBEn2000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CoBEn2000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure evryone is looking at the same data here but interpreting it differently depending on your understanding of the whole picture.  I see a slight but upward trend over many yrs, the latest dip is but a statistical ANOMALY.  Anomaly hunting is not way to make an absolute statement and to make one is to show a clear lack of critical thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure evryone is looking at the same data here but interpreting it differently depending on your understanding of the whole picture.  I see a slight but upward trend over many yrs, the latest dip is but a statistical ANOMALY.  Anomaly hunting is not way to make an absolute statement and to make one is to show a clear lack of critical thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did I seriously see Phil. &#039;address&#039; issues with nothing more than the comments: &quot;Not true&quot; and &quot;Again not true&quot;?  Wow, how much arrogance does THAT take!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I seriously see Phil. &#8216;address&#8217; issues with nothing more than the comments: &#8220;Not true&#8221; and &#8220;Again not true&#8221;?  Wow, how much arrogance does THAT take!</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/03/uah-global-temperature-anomaly-for-june-09-zero/#comment-155661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smokey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Phil.&lt;/b&gt;,

Don&#039;t you understand? This is &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; argument: &quot;...what&#039;s important is the &lt;i&gt;trend&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.

For instance, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/e107_images/newspost_images/11_1979-2008_antarctic_ice_concentration_extent.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is a trend&lt;/a&gt; that you can see. Or not.

[OK, I guess under current IPCC rules it isn&#039;t fair to introduce actual facts.]

Finally, a response of &quot;again not true&quot; presupposes a complete understanding of that question -- which is doubtful. Read the question(s) again. I&#039;ll admit that it can&#039;t be answered with a simple &quot;not true.&quot; 

&quot;Again not true.&quot; Emotion, me boy. It&#039;s in everyone&#039;s downfall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Phil.</b>,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you understand? This is <i>your</i> argument: &#8220;&#8230;what&#8217;s important is the <i>trend</i>&#8220;.</p>
<p>For instance, <a href="http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/e107_images/newspost_images/11_1979-2008_antarctic_ice_concentration_extent.jpg" rel="nofollow">here is a trend</a> that you can see. Or not.</p>
<p>[OK, I guess under current IPCC rules it isn't fair to introduce actual facts.]</p>
<p>Finally, a response of &#8220;again not true&#8221; presupposes a complete understanding of that question &#8212; which is doubtful. Read the question(s) again. I&#8217;ll admit that it can&#8217;t be answered with a simple &#8220;not true.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Again not true.&#8221; Emotion, me boy. It&#8217;s in everyone&#8217;s downfall.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Robert A Cook PE (18:09:30) :
Jason (10:04:07) :
Let’s address each of your (incorrect and misleading) comments in turn.&lt;/em&gt;

How about we address some of yours?



&lt;em&gt;Arctic sea ice extents were measured (not guessed, not assumed, not “corrected” or corrupted but actually measured this spring in 2009 at their record highest-ever extent.&lt;/em&gt;

Not true: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm


&lt;em&gt; Antarctic ice mass is now also at its highest ever recorded value. What is melting, and where? &lt;/em&gt;

Not true.


&lt;em&gt; Name ANY real danger from an increase in temperature by 2 degrees – while noting that right now, we are cooling off globally at a 2 degree per century rate..&lt;/em&gt;

Again not true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Robert A Cook PE (18:09:30) :<br />
Jason (10:04:07) :<br />
Let’s address each of your (incorrect and misleading) comments in turn.</em></p>
<p>How about we address some of yours?</p>
<p><em>Arctic sea ice extents were measured (not guessed, not assumed, not “corrected” or corrupted but actually measured this spring in 2009 at their record highest-ever extent.</em></p>
<p>Not true: <a href="http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm</a></p>
<p><em> Antarctic ice mass is now also at its highest ever recorded value. What is melting, and where? </em></p>
<p>Not true.</p>
<p><em> Name ANY real danger from an increase in temperature by 2 degrees – while noting that right now, we are cooling off globally at a 2 degree per century rate..</em></p>
<p>Again not true.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert A Cook PE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert A Cook PE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason (10:04:07) :
Let&#039;s address each of your (incorrect and misleading) comments in turn.

You: Great, the tropospheres temperature is not increasing… that is a good argument to spew more co2 in the air. Why is measuring one part of the atmosphere a clinical argument. There is more than one part to the atmosphere.

Reply:   Surface temperatures have been corrupted by unexplained and unjustified and incorrect and biased &quot;correction factors&quot; by Hansen&#039;s GISS and the NOAA such that more than 85% of the ENTIRE &quot;global warming&quot; temperature between 1900 and 2000 is &quot;correction factors.  Worse, the single most significant known &quot;correction&quot; that does actually INCREASE the apparent measured temperatures is NOT corrected in the NOAA/GISS plots - thus corrupting the evidence even more against your assumed AGW. Unbiased, un-corrupted raw data showing a decline in truly global temperatures uncorrupted by local heat islands, false measurement stations, and human influences IS the most reliable measurement possible.  

Further, GISS, the IPCC, and the UK&#039;s staff &quot;climatologists&quot; have been shown numerous times to have lied and propagandized their data, their studies, and their messages - so their claims need be checked by more reliable sources.   

Local surface temperatures - in the &quot;best measured&quot; country in the world have been found to have fewer than 12% of the stations accurately sited and safe from local heat biases.  The rest of the world is even worse.  What measurements do you want to trust your 1.6 trillion dollar boondoggle to?   
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You: Dont worry about the stratosphere and the ice sheets, the troposphere graph will fix it. The ice (our ignorance parachute) is pretending to melt. Bring back CFCs.

Reply:  AGW theory REQUIRES that the upper troposphere be warming much more rapidly than the surface temperatures, and even more rapidly than the oceans and arctic areas.  It is not so warming - but is declining.  This proves that Hansen&#039;s and Gore&#039;s THEORY of CO2 effects on temperature - with the constants they have ASSUMED and the math that they have APPROXIMATED in the computer ESTIMATES and PROJECTIONS is false.    If the data prove your computer is false over a 30 year period, you CANNOT make your theory correct by lying about the effects prdicted 
100 years, 200 years, or 400 years in the future.

Arctic sea ice extents were measured (not guessed, not assumed, not &quot;corrected&quot; or corrupted but actually measured this spring in 2009 at their record highest-ever extent.  Antarctic ice mass is now also at its highest ever recorded value.  What is melting, and where?   Sea levels are NOT rising faster than ever before, but at the same consistent 2 to 3 mm/year rate they&#039;ve always been rising since the last Ice Age.   
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You:  Changing the structure of the air is a great idea. 10 million years to stabilize the air and we can change that is 50. Civilization at it best.

Reply:  Yes, increasing CO2 has led to 12% to 27% MORE food, fuel, fodder, feed, and seeds as plants grow faster, stronger, and more drought resistant.  Name ANY real world harm done by increasing CO2 from today&#039;s levels to say  1000 ppm or 1500 ppm.   Name ANY real danger from an increase in temperature by 2 degrees - while noting that right now, we are cooling off globally at a 2 degree per century rate..

The atmosphere has NEVER been &quot;stable&quot; and is part of a natural world that we can only marvel at.  Destroying the world and increasing poverty RUINS more ecologies and KILLS more people than improving people&#039;s economic conditions so THEY can live safer, more productive, healthier lives.  Or do you really want more people to die?   Colder winter weather kills 4 to 6 times more people per year than warmer, more productive, healthier and safer hot, more summer-like temperatures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason (10:04:07) :<br />
Let&#8217;s address each of your (incorrect and misleading) comments in turn.</p>
<p>You: Great, the tropospheres temperature is not increasing… that is a good argument to spew more co2 in the air. Why is measuring one part of the atmosphere a clinical argument. There is more than one part to the atmosphere.</p>
<p>Reply:   Surface temperatures have been corrupted by unexplained and unjustified and incorrect and biased &#8220;correction factors&#8221; by Hansen&#8217;s GISS and the NOAA such that more than 85% of the ENTIRE &#8220;global warming&#8221; temperature between 1900 and 2000 is &#8220;correction factors.  Worse, the single most significant known &#8220;correction&#8221; that does actually INCREASE the apparent measured temperatures is NOT corrected in the NOAA/GISS plots &#8211; thus corrupting the evidence even more against your assumed AGW. Unbiased, un-corrupted raw data showing a decline in truly global temperatures uncorrupted by local heat islands, false measurement stations, and human influences IS the most reliable measurement possible.  </p>
<p>Further, GISS, the IPCC, and the UK&#8217;s staff &#8220;climatologists&#8221; have been shown numerous times to have lied and propagandized their data, their studies, and their messages &#8211; so their claims need be checked by more reliable sources.   </p>
<p>Local surface temperatures &#8211; in the &#8220;best measured&#8221; country in the world have been found to have fewer than 12% of the stations accurately sited and safe from local heat biases.  The rest of the world is even worse.  What measurements do you want to trust your 1.6 trillion dollar boondoggle to?<br />
&#8212;<br />
You: Dont worry about the stratosphere and the ice sheets, the troposphere graph will fix it. The ice (our ignorance parachute) is pretending to melt. Bring back CFCs.</p>
<p>Reply:  AGW theory REQUIRES that the upper troposphere be warming much more rapidly than the surface temperatures, and even more rapidly than the oceans and arctic areas.  It is not so warming &#8211; but is declining.  This proves that Hansen&#8217;s and Gore&#8217;s THEORY of CO2 effects on temperature &#8211; with the constants they have ASSUMED and the math that they have APPROXIMATED in the computer ESTIMATES and PROJECTIONS is false.    If the data prove your computer is false over a 30 year period, you CANNOT make your theory correct by lying about the effects prdicted<br />
100 years, 200 years, or 400 years in the future.</p>
<p>Arctic sea ice extents were measured (not guessed, not assumed, not &#8220;corrected&#8221; or corrupted but actually measured this spring in 2009 at their record highest-ever extent.  Antarctic ice mass is now also at its highest ever recorded value.  What is melting, and where?   Sea levels are NOT rising faster than ever before, but at the same consistent 2 to 3 mm/year rate they&#8217;ve always been rising since the last Ice Age.<br />
&#8211;<br />
You:  Changing the structure of the air is a great idea. 10 million years to stabilize the air and we can change that is 50. Civilization at it best.</p>
<p>Reply:  Yes, increasing CO2 has led to 12% to 27% MORE food, fuel, fodder, feed, and seeds as plants grow faster, stronger, and more drought resistant.  Name ANY real world harm done by increasing CO2 from today&#8217;s levels to say  1000 ppm or 1500 ppm.   Name ANY real danger from an increase in temperature by 2 degrees &#8211; while noting that right now, we are cooling off globally at a 2 degree per century rate..</p>
<p>The atmosphere has NEVER been &#8220;stable&#8221; and is part of a natural world that we can only marvel at.  Destroying the world and increasing poverty RUINS more ecologies and KILLS more people than improving people&#8217;s economic conditions so THEY can live safer, more productive, healthier lives.  Or do you really want more people to die?   Colder winter weather kills 4 to 6 times more people per year than warmer, more productive, healthier and safer hot, more summer-like temperatures.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Leddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Leddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awww shucks, only a 0 degree increase, hoping for more - Alaskans for Global Warming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww shucks, only a 0 degree increase, hoping for more &#8211; Alaskans for Global Warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With regard to UK vineyards, there are an increasing number and of course this is widely attributed to global warming, although also should be attributed to changes in the drinking behaviour of the British middle classes - I wonder how many of the vineyards are on sites where hops used to be grown. Most are in southern England although there is one just down the road from my sister (slightly north of Birmingham), and I understand the furthest north is in South Yorkshire.

Now, there is little doubt that the UK has tended to warmer summers and (more particularly) milder winters over the last 25 years, but it is a big stretch to prove that the climate of a fairly small island on the edge of a large ocean bears much relation to the rest of the world. The recent weather though has been more conducive to growing some varieties of grape, especially with the development of types that are more resistant to cold.

I understand (although am no expert on the issue) that the UK can produce some very good sparkling wines based on the same grape varieties as traditionally used in the Champagne region (which of course isn&#039;t that far away from the south east of England).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to UK vineyards, there are an increasing number and of course this is widely attributed to global warming, although also should be attributed to changes in the drinking behaviour of the British middle classes &#8211; I wonder how many of the vineyards are on sites where hops used to be grown. Most are in southern England although there is one just down the road from my sister (slightly north of Birmingham), and I understand the furthest north is in South Yorkshire.</p>
<p>Now, there is little doubt that the UK has tended to warmer summers and (more particularly) milder winters over the last 25 years, but it is a big stretch to prove that the climate of a fairly small island on the edge of a large ocean bears much relation to the rest of the world. The recent weather though has been more conducive to growing some varieties of grape, especially with the development of types that are more resistant to cold.</p>
<p>I understand (although am no expert on the issue) that the UK can produce some very good sparkling wines based on the same grape varieties as traditionally used in the Champagne region (which of course isn&#8217;t that far away from the south east of England).</p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Mike Bryant (18:17:56) :  Now can someone remind why we want the earth even colder?

http://www.iceagenow.com/Record_low_temperatures_in_46_states_during_June.htm &lt;/i&gt;

Wow...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mike Bryant (18:17:56) :  Now can someone remind why we want the earth even colder?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iceagenow.com/Record_low_temperatures_in_46_states_during_June.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.iceagenow.com/Record_low_temperatures_in_46_states_during_June.htm</a> </i></p>
<p>Wow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Roger (03:19:07) : E.M.Smith  So pleased to hear about your tomatoes! your earlier post re Siberian and Arctic varieties led me to research and locate seeds available here in Scotland which my wife intends to cultivate next year. This year’s crop of English varieties looks promising, but the previous 2 years were total failures, despite the CET for 2007 and 2008 ramping up hotter and hotter. It takes very little research to discover that the CET series is not in fact a true series, having been changed in it’s locations and it’s readings adjusted, for reasons that seem dubious to a layman like me.&lt;/i&gt;

The plants don&#039;t lie and have no agenda ... 

FWIW, these folks claim to have a tomato that works in Scotland:

http://www.seedfest.co.uk/about/about.html#highland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Roger (03:19:07) : E.M.Smith  So pleased to hear about your tomatoes! your earlier post re Siberian and Arctic varieties led me to research and locate seeds available here in Scotland which my wife intends to cultivate next year. This year’s crop of English varieties looks promising, but the previous 2 years were total failures, despite the CET for 2007 and 2008 ramping up hotter and hotter. It takes very little research to discover that the CET series is not in fact a true series, having been changed in it’s locations and it’s readings adjusted, for reasons that seem dubious to a layman like me.</i></p>
<p>The plants don&#8217;t lie and have no agenda &#8230; </p>
<p>FWIW, these folks claim to have a tomato that works in Scotland:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seedfest.co.uk/about/about.html#highland" rel="nofollow">http://www.seedfest.co.uk/about/about.html#highland</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jimmy,
Maroon then it is! the color of the Texas Aggies is good enough for me. I may be wrong but it seems to contain more red than blue...
Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy,<br />
Maroon then it is! the color of the Texas Aggies is good enough for me. I may be wrong but it seems to contain more red than blue&#8230;<br />
Mike</p>
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