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	<title>Comments on: Pelosi concedes &#8216;not enough votes to pass global warming bill&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Kirk W. Hanneman</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirk W. Hanneman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to laugh when politicians claim that a huge new tax will &quot;create millions of new green jobs.&quot;  Did these folks fail economics, or just common sense class?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to laugh when politicians claim that a huge new tax will &#8220;create millions of new green jobs.&#8221;  Did these folks fail economics, or just common sense class?</p>
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		<title>By: gt</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149483</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gary A. (13:26:44) : 

I hope he did not use our tax dollars for that.  But I am not holding my breath neither.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary A. (13:26:44) : </p>
<p>I hope he did not use our tax dollars for that.  But I am not holding my breath neither.</p>
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		<title>By: old construction worker</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old construction worker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Climate Heretic (09:19:28) : 
&#039;Al Gore cancels appearance on the hill. Pelosi finally realized flying in the VP to rally against CO2 was stupid, damn they are learning the ropes, because it would open the VP up to criticism regarding his big fat …. footprint.&#039;

The Gore Affect
She didn&#039;t want snow in June.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate Heretic (09:19:28) :<br />
&#8216;Al Gore cancels appearance on the hill. Pelosi finally realized flying in the VP to rally against CO2 was stupid, damn they are learning the ropes, because it would open the VP up to criticism regarding his big fat …. footprint.&#8217;</p>
<p>The Gore Affect<br />
She didn&#8217;t want snow in June.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment for non-US readers.  The fact that a House bill is much weaker than the Senate version, or the reverse,  means very little.  Don&#039;t place  your hopes on that.

A committee from the House and a committee from the Senate will sit down together and make changes to reconcile the versions  This gives a tremendous advantage to the party that controls both houses.  Or in this case to Pelosi and Reid.

Expect a reconciliation bill to omit concessions put in before the vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment for non-US readers.  The fact that a House bill is much weaker than the Senate version, or the reverse,  means very little.  Don&#8217;t place  your hopes on that.</p>
<p>A committee from the House and a committee from the Senate will sit down together and make changes to reconcile the versions  This gives a tremendous advantage to the party that controls both houses.  Or in this case to Pelosi and Reid.</p>
<p>Expect a reconciliation bill to omit concessions put in before the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Haan</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron de Haan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[post excerpt plus link] ~ charles the moderator]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[post excerpt plus link] ~ charles the moderator</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lorrey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lorrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my experience, congresspeople and their staff don&#039;t actually read constituent letters in great depth regarding pending legislation. They tend to just pile the &quot;for&quot; and &quot;against&quot; letters in piles and weigh the mass of each. So if y&#039;all wanna have an impact, send your letters via snail mail on as heavy a bond paper as you can... lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, congresspeople and their staff don&#8217;t actually read constituent letters in great depth regarding pending legislation. They tend to just pile the &#8220;for&#8221; and &#8220;against&#8221; letters in piles and weigh the mass of each. So if y&#8217;all wanna have an impact, send your letters via snail mail on as heavy a bond paper as you can&#8230; lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Curiousgeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curiousgeorge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gary don&#039;t forget the &quot;Pork&quot;.  Wanna bet no hungry DC street people will be invited?  Royalty only, I&#039;m sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary don&#8217;t forget the &#8220;Pork&#8221;.  Wanna bet no hungry DC street people will be invited?  Royalty only, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Haan</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron de Haan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neo (13:38:00) :

Al Gore cancels appearance on the hill.

It would look pretty bad to bring in a “green venture capitalist” to lobby for the passage.

We’ve been thru the S&amp;L adventure, the dot-com run up, Y2K, subprime/Alt-A/Option-A loan mess and now the “carbon tax” (AKA Global Warming/AGW/cap-n-trade). Each and every one of these government FUBARs was intended to extract money from the masses and give it to the friends of the politicians.

Always remember that the last “global consensus” was that Iraq had “stockpiles of WMD” and it was “all wrong”. Now we have a new “global consensus” which also appears, in so many ways that it’s hard to count, to be “all wrong.”

Neo, off topic but:
Only if you leave out 550 tons of uranium yellow cake, a stock pile of chemical weapons (nerve and mustard gas) you are right about the &#039;Global Consensus&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo (13:38:00) :</p>
<p>Al Gore cancels appearance on the hill.</p>
<p>It would look pretty bad to bring in a “green venture capitalist” to lobby for the passage.</p>
<p>We’ve been thru the S&amp;L adventure, the dot-com run up, Y2K, subprime/Alt-A/Option-A loan mess and now the “carbon tax” (AKA Global Warming/AGW/cap-n-trade). Each and every one of these government FUBARs was intended to extract money from the masses and give it to the friends of the politicians.</p>
<p>Always remember that the last “global consensus” was that Iraq had “stockpiles of WMD” and it was “all wrong”. Now we have a new “global consensus” which also appears, in so many ways that it’s hard to count, to be “all wrong.”</p>
<p>Neo, off topic but:<br />
Only if you leave out 550 tons of uranium yellow cake, a stock pile of chemical weapons (nerve and mustard gas) you are right about the &#8216;Global Consensus&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron de Haan</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron de Haan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are pushing Republicans now to secure a smooth vote!
Please call these guys and tell them waht mistake they are about to make.
Some names are mentioned in the folllowing article:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/print_friendly.php?ID=cda_20090625_6428]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are pushing Republicans now to secure a smooth vote!<br />
Please call these guys and tell them waht mistake they are about to make.<br />
Some names are mentioned in the folllowing article:<br />
<a href="http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/print_friendly.php?ID=cda_20090625_6428" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/print_friendly.php?ID=cda_20090625_6428</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Al Gore cancels appearance on the hill.&lt;/i&gt;

It would look pretty bad to bring in a &quot;green venture capitalist&quot; to lobby for the passage.

We&#039;ve been thru the S&amp;L adventure, the dot-com run up, Y2K, subprime/Alt-A/Option-A loan mess and now the &quot;carbon tax&quot; (AKA Global Warming/AGW/cap-n-trade). Each and every one of these government FUBARs was intended to extract money from the masses and give it to the friends of the politicians. 

Always remember that the last &quot;global consensus&quot; was that Iraq had &quot;stockpiles of WMD&quot; and it was &quot;all wrong&quot;. Now we have a new &quot;global consensus&quot; which also appears, in so many ways that it&#039;s hard to count, to be &quot;all wrong&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Al Gore cancels appearance on the hill.</i></p>
<p>It would look pretty bad to bring in a &#8220;green venture capitalist&#8221; to lobby for the passage.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been thru the S&amp;L adventure, the dot-com run up, Y2K, subprime/Alt-A/Option-A loan mess and now the &#8220;carbon tax&#8221; (AKA Global Warming/AGW/cap-n-trade). Each and every one of these government FUBARs was intended to extract money from the masses and give it to the friends of the politicians. </p>
<p>Always remember that the last &#8220;global consensus&#8221; was that Iraq had &#8220;stockpiles of WMD&#8221; and it was &#8220;all wrong&#8221;. Now we have a new &#8220;global consensus&#8221; which also appears, in so many ways that it&#8217;s hard to count, to be &#8220;all wrong&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gary A.</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So President Obama is hosting a luau tonite for 2200 congress critters...

Seems strange on the eve of a carbon reduction bill to fly in Hawaiian fire-knife dancers and 20 musicians and other dancers from throughout Hawaii.  Flying in a top Hawaiin chef (Wong).
And flying up to D.C. with Wong, from Hawaii:

• 70 lbs. of hearts of palm, from Wailea Agricultural Group, Big Island of Hawaii
• 35 lbs. of chevre (goat cheese) from Hawaii Island Goat Dairy, Honokaa, Big Island of Hawaii
• 216 lbs. of mushrooms (50% eryngi, 50% hon-shimeji), from Hamakua Mushrooms, Big Island of Hawaii
• 44 lbs. of chocolate, from Waialua Estate Chocolate, Oahu
• 3 gallons of ko choo jang sauce, from Park&#039;s Brand, Oahu
• 35 lbs. of white miso, from Maru-Hi, Oahu
• 84 lbs. of macadamia nuts
• 130 lbs. of salted salmon (now we&#039;re all but confirming lomi salmon)
• 60 lbs. of pipi kaula
• 4 lbs. of Hawaii-grown chili peppers

I am so proud of our President and Congress...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So President Obama is hosting a luau tonite for 2200 congress critters&#8230;</p>
<p>Seems strange on the eve of a carbon reduction bill to fly in Hawaiian fire-knife dancers and 20 musicians and other dancers from throughout Hawaii.  Flying in a top Hawaiin chef (Wong).<br />
And flying up to D.C. with Wong, from Hawaii:</p>
<p>• 70 lbs. of hearts of palm, from Wailea Agricultural Group, Big Island of Hawaii<br />
• 35 lbs. of chevre (goat cheese) from Hawaii Island Goat Dairy, Honokaa, Big Island of Hawaii<br />
• 216 lbs. of mushrooms (50% eryngi, 50% hon-shimeji), from Hamakua Mushrooms, Big Island of Hawaii<br />
• 44 lbs. of chocolate, from Waialua Estate Chocolate, Oahu<br />
• 3 gallons of ko choo jang sauce, from Park&#8217;s Brand, Oahu<br />
• 35 lbs. of white miso, from Maru-Hi, Oahu<br />
• 84 lbs. of macadamia nuts<br />
• 130 lbs. of salted salmon (now we&#8217;re all but confirming lomi salmon)<br />
• 60 lbs. of pipi kaula<br />
• 4 lbs. of Hawaii-grown chili peppers</p>
<p>I am so proud of our President and Congress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nasif Nahle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nasif Nahle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT… Have you heard something about and interference of the US government into the American citizens’ private lives? I do not remember exactly, perhaps it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, when I read from a newspaper that some federal agencies were looking for the approval of an initiative which would permit them to interfere your phone calls and other private, very private, activities. Here, in Mexico, the federal government is pushing to active mobile phones users to register their mobile phone line(s) including the name of the owner or user, address, ID number and Single Population Registration Code (CURP in Spanish), before June 30th. We don’t know what the purpose of this obligation could be, but it doesn’t smell nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT… Have you heard something about and interference of the US government into the American citizens’ private lives? I do not remember exactly, perhaps it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, when I read from a newspaper that some federal agencies were looking for the approval of an initiative which would permit them to interfere your phone calls and other private, very private, activities. Here, in Mexico, the federal government is pushing to active mobile phones users to register their mobile phone line(s) including the name of the owner or user, address, ID number and Single Population Registration Code (CURP in Spanish), before June 30th. We don’t know what the purpose of this obligation could be, but it doesn’t smell nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Addendum,

I just got an email response from Senator Merkley of Oregon.  The letter read like one primarily made of macro single key stroke talking points.  I was unimpressed.  He did not speak to the questionable science behind the political movement and he did not state his personal opinion of said science.  As of this moment, I am deeply concerned over, apologize for, and embarrassed of my political party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum,</p>
<p>I just got an email response from Senator Merkley of Oregon.  The letter read like one primarily made of macro single key stroke talking points.  I was unimpressed.  He did not speak to the questionable science behind the political movement and he did not state his personal opinion of said science.  As of this moment, I am deeply concerned over, apologize for, and embarrassed of my political party.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/pelosi-concedes-not-enough-votes-to-pass-global-warming-bill/#comment-149166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t heard back from any of my representatives and I requested a response.  And you would think that they, if on the CO2 side, would appreciate my attempt to bypass the noxious spewing of pollutants by avoiding snail mail in preference to the much more green email system of communication.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard back from any of my representatives and I requested a response.  And you would think that they, if on the CO2 side, would appreciate my attempt to bypass the noxious spewing of pollutants by avoiding snail mail in preference to the much more green email system of communication.</p>
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		<title>By: gt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mkurbo (11:16:12) : 

Oh dear.  Your senator has been brainwashed to beyond a point of irreversibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mkurbo (11:16:12) : </p>
<p>Oh dear.  Your senator has been brainwashed to beyond a point of irreversibility.</p>
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