Comments on: The Met Office brings doom to a place near you

By: Neil

Neil — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:07:35 +0000

Sadly , only for UK citizens, but :

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/CRUSourceCodes/

Now if someone could start another re the data , which I missed out, and it won’t let me edit , they will still ignore it !!!!!

By: Stephen Wilde

Stephen Wilde — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:43:41 +0000

bill (05:55:29)

Interesting.

Using a 1961 to 2000 baseline brings in all the colder UK winters of the 60s and in particular the exceptionally cold Spring months of 1963.

No wonder they can get the early months of 2009 to look warmer than ‘average’ even though those months actually represent a return to more normal temperatures after the 1975 to 2000 warming spell.

If it keeps getting cooler they will have to take the baseline period back to the exceptionally cold and snowy Spring of 1947.

By: Ulric Lyons

Ulric Lyons — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:14:58 +0000

Totally reckless and irresponsible, unless the MetO can show us exactly how natural variation of the climate functions, they should all get the cane!

Jim H (17:29:39) :

I’m trying to make hay at the moment in the UK, and the Met office weather forecasts aren’t making it any easier! They aren’t able to predict with any degree of accuracy more than a day or so ahead (I need 5-7 dry sunny days to make good hay). So how they can predict 70 years ahead with such confidence beats me.
I`ll do you a long range forecast, mail me, ulriclyons at gmail dot com.

By: newbery

newbery — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:28:23 +0000

The BBC’s Science Correspondent, Pallab Ghosh, has some interesting background on this controversy here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8106513.stm

By: JFA in Montreal

JFA in Montreal — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:31:15 +0000

At least, in the old days of reading fish entrails, it ended to be much cheaper to taxpayers…

By: Chris Schoneveld

Chris Schoneveld — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:32:26 +0000

I didn’t realize that the garbage-in/garbage-out principle could be circumvented with more computer power.

By: ralph ellis

ralph ellis — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:29:30 +0000

>>>Are you suggesting that there is not one of the tens
>>>of thousand civil servants not willng to blow the gaff on
>>>false evidence, lies, funding irregularities of the met office
>>>and all the others?

I am. Most people, including many of those who are robotically mouthing the Global Warming mantra, are merely keeping their heads down in order the keep their jobs.

http://news.scotsman.com/immigrationandrefugees/Home-Office-whistleblower–sacked.5205333.jp
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3609386/Its-all-over-when-the-whistle-blows.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1173208/Home-Office-whistleblower-sacked-leaks-Tory-MP.html
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Damian-Green-Leak-Christopher-Galley-Civil-Servant-Sacked-For-Handing-Documents-Over-To-MP/Article/200904415268721
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article410114.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article444819.ece
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20070121/ai_n17146081/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article2804407.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1141979/JAMES-SLACK-Who-restore-sanity-madhouse-21st-Century-policing.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/jan/09/pressandpublishing.broadcasting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-452477/Police-order-shopkeeper-remove-golliwogs-window.html
http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press019.html

I could go on and on with quotes, but you get the idea; freedom of thought and speech are being systematically terminated. It is easy to intimidate the civil service, the police and the masses, if you can use the power of the state to arrest and sack people.

P.S. I am not a Christian, nor am I anti-gay, but I include the last item to demonstrate how petty the arrests and intimidation have become. A previous generation would have laughed and ridiculed a deranged (from my point of view) preacher, but now they are arrested and prosecuted. Moral – keep your mouth shut and head down, because you are next.

By: John Galt

John Galt — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:58:24 +0000

When the government tells you there’s nothing to worry about, that’s when you should start worrying!

By: wws

wws — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:01:21 +0000

It just occurred to me that Bill and Aminadjab have a lot in common.

Different systems, same maniacal worship of authority as represented by the status quo. Same claims that official acceptance of the status quo is “proof” that anyone in opposition must be insane or criminal.

Hey bill, notice how that’s working out for Aminadjab these days?

By: Barry Sheridan

Barry Sheridan — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:06:30 +0000

For readers of this blog unfamiliar with the utterances of theUK government and its sponsored organs, please note that they have become, with rare exception, little more than unprincipled charlatans. The Met Office fit neatly into this category because their primary interest is not aimed at trying to explore the underlying science so that it can actually improve our understanding of climate. Instead it routinely cherry picks its way through the data to create scary scenarios that suit its headline grabbing agenda.

Like parliament, the Met Office has brought itself into disrepute, which is profoundly sad as they have some first class talent. Capable people poorly led as is the norm for modern Britain.

By: bill

bill — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:51:24 +0000

Some Met Office Publications of Interest:

How British measurements should be made:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/library/factsheets/factsheet17.pdf

Analysis of central England Temperature record
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/publications/HCTN/HCTN_46.pdf

Uncertainties in the Central England Temperature series 1878-2003 and some changes to the maximum and minimum series Hadley
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/publications/HCTN/HCTN_50.pdf

By: bill

bill — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:07:51 +0000

Moths = months!
ralph ellis (03:40:15) :
What paranoid Britain do you live in!?
There was plenty of MSM documentaries questioning the death of the scientist. He would not have been able to stop Iraq, (Blair was under control of Bush).

Are you suggesting that there is not one of the 10s of thousand civil servants not willng to blow the gaff on false evidence, lies, funding irregularities of the met office and all the others.
Piffle! If someone is willing to sell the papers the story about a few million GBP in false expenses (clearing moats, clearing creepers, and £0.01 phone calls) then I am absolutely certain that there is a queue waiting in thre wings to sell their “met office are liars and criminals” stories that you suggest are true.

By: bill

bill — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:55:29 +0000

Ed Zuiderwijk (02:55:29)
When you say Cambridge are you refering to the UK variety?
The average for June is 19.4C for Oxford
The last 4 weeks have seen temperatures well in excess of this.
in fact the 1st 5 moths of the year compared against 1961 to 1990 average are:
j -0.55
f 1.75
m 2.25
a 2.67
m 1.88
Cambridge must be a cold miserable place in your mind’s eye!

By: Arthur Glass

Arthur Glass — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:33:55 +0000

‘Dr Vicky Pope – “We’ve taken the Metoffice Hadley centre as the basis for our projections and we’ve created 400 different models from that representing all that we know about the uncertanty in the science of our model, we’ve then also combined that with information with information from 12 internationaly known models from around the world which have been used in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. We’ve taken all of that and produced probability information combining it with 11 regional models that we’ve run to provide detailed information for the UK, and to produce statistical informatiion about the risks of climate change in the future.”

” He thought he saw a Garden-Door
That opened with a key:
He looked again, and found it was
A Double Rule of Three:
‘And all its mystery,’ he said,
‘Is clear as day to me!’ “

By: Arthur Glass

Arthur Glass — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:21:38 +0000

” At the beginning of the week the Met Office were telling us that it was going to be hot and dry by Thursday, then by the middle of the week they said actually it’s now going to be the weekend, then on Friday evening they were apologising and saying it will be the middle of next week before this hot weather arrives, so quite honestly who in their right minds would believe climate predictions made by this bunch of jokers!”

” He thought he saw a Rattlesnake
That questioned him in Greek:
He looked again, and found it was
The Middle of Next Week.
‘The one thing I regret,’ he said,
‘Is that it cannot speak!’ ”

–Lewis Carroll

Curioser and curioser!