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	<title>Comments on: Jack Eddy &#8211; discoverer of the Maunder Minimum and LIA, 1931-2009</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/11/jack-eddy-discoverer-of-the-maunder-minimum-and-lia-1932-2009/#comment-151861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;All of us who live here need to decide whether a nation with less than 5
percent of the world&#039;s population should continue to give off nearly one
fourth of the gases that contribute to global warming.&quot;
- John A. Eddy

I would also like to express my condolensces to the family of Dr. Jack
Eddy. I never had a chance to meet him, or even to hear him speak, but I can infer what a remarkable man he was through his work and through having met one of his children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All of us who live here need to decide whether a nation with less than 5<br />
percent of the world&#8217;s population should continue to give off nearly one<br />
fourth of the gases that contribute to global warming.&#8221;<br />
- John A. Eddy</p>
<p>I would also like to express my condolensces to the family of Dr. Jack<br />
Eddy. I never had a chance to meet him, or even to hear him speak, but I can infer what a remarkable man he was through his work and through having met one of his children.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Supporter</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/11/jack-eddy-discoverer-of-the-maunder-minimum-and-lia-1932-2009/#comment-148681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minimum Supporter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, too, mourn the loss of this great astronomical figure. His knowledge and contributions have caused an unquestionable inprint in the fabric of our field. He has added a breadth of expertise to something that was once nebulous and an unknown frontier. My day is ruined. 

Rest in Peace. God Speed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, mourn the loss of this great astronomical figure. His knowledge and contributions have caused an unquestionable inprint in the fabric of our field. He has added a breadth of expertise to something that was once nebulous and an unknown frontier. My day is ruined. </p>
<p>Rest in Peace. God Speed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Aschenbrenner Supple</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/11/jack-eddy-discoverer-of-the-maunder-minimum-and-lia-1932-2009/#comment-147603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Aschenbrenner Supple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was fortunate enough to know and work with Dr. Eddy at the High Altitude Observatory.  I am not a scientist, but I can tell you that I have worked with many fine people, and Dr. Eddy is the finest of all.  Always the consummate gentleman.  Always the humorist.  Never conceited.  Those of us who knew him are now experiencing the &quot;Eddy Minimum&quot;, for without Jack Eddy, the world is not quite so bright a spot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fortunate enough to know and work with Dr. Eddy at the High Altitude Observatory.  I am not a scientist, but I can tell you that I have worked with many fine people, and Dr. Eddy is the finest of all.  Always the consummate gentleman.  Always the humorist.  Never conceited.  Those of us who knew him are now experiencing the &#8220;Eddy Minimum&#8221;, for without Jack Eddy, the world is not quite so bright a spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Milwaukee Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milwaukee Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without humility there can be no Humanity.

Without Humanity science is meaningless.

How rare then, the meaningful scientist.

Jack Eddy: One of a rare breed.

May You Rest In Peace.

And, THANK YOU!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without humility there can be no Humanity.</p>
<p>Without Humanity science is meaningless.</p>
<p>How rare then, the meaningful scientist.</p>
<p>Jack Eddy: One of a rare breed.</p>
<p>May You Rest In Peace.</p>
<p>And, THANK YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the end, there is no &#039;official&#039; body that does naming of minima [as there is for craters on the Moon, etc, and asteroids, and the like]. So it comes down to what people decide should rule. All the SPD can do is to state what their suggested choice is. And the solar community &#039;votes&#039; by using whatever individuals prefer to call it in future papers, over which nobody has [nor should have] any control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, there is no &#8216;official&#8217; body that does naming of minima [as there is for craters on the Moon, etc, and asteroids, and the like]. So it comes down to what people decide should rule. All the SPD can do is to state what their suggested choice is. And the solar community &#8216;votes&#8217; by using whatever individuals prefer to call it in future papers, over which nobody has [nor should have] any control.</p>
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		<title>By: len</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[len]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lief.  I bet to differ with you on the contribution issue.  Many of us here only became interested in this topic because of that other guy if nothing else.  My prediction is your work will ultimately be a piece of the barycenter solar cycle model.  I kind of see you as the Hoyle in this debate and hopefully, in the end, you can happily stand with those that marry you to the &#039;cycle nut&#039; metaphorically speaking :D (Sorry for having fun with the politics here).

Anyway, in summary, the total contribution is paramount and this Grand Minimum I&#039;m living in would be well named after Jack.  It kind of has a ring to it ... &#039;Eddy Minimum&#039;.

Gravity, politically, scientifically, inertia, light ... forget it ... I need a few more neurons firing to carry on that thought ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lief.  I bet to differ with you on the contribution issue.  Many of us here only became interested in this topic because of that other guy if nothing else.  My prediction is your work will ultimately be a piece of the barycenter solar cycle model.  I kind of see you as the Hoyle in this debate and hopefully, in the end, you can happily stand with those that marry you to the &#8216;cycle nut&#8217; metaphorically speaking :D (Sorry for having fun with the politics here).</p>
<p>Anyway, in summary, the total contribution is paramount and this Grand Minimum I&#8217;m living in would be well named after Jack.  It kind of has a ring to it &#8230; &#8216;Eddy Minimum&#8217;.</p>
<p>Gravity, politically, scientifically, inertia, light &#8230; forget it &#8230; I need a few more neurons firing to carry on that thought &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach (18:54:59) :
&lt;i&gt;to want honour your friend by naming the minimum for him, you are spitting on Ted Landschiedt’s memory in the process. Ted Landscheidt is the one who predicted the minimum, not Jack Eddy.&lt;/i&gt;
Landscheidt&#039;s prediction in 1981 was wrong, and we are not going into a Grand Minimum this time around. The former Grand Minima were not named after their discoverer, and neither should this one be. The true discoverer of the Grand Minima was Gustav Spoerer, not Maunder. Eddy has told me [and others] that he thought of honoring Spoerer, but decided on Maunder Minimum because it sounded better [the nice alliteration of the two &#039;M&#039;s], and nobody could spell Spörer correctly anyway. My proposal was not to name the coming minimum after Eddy no matter what, but as I said &quot;&lt;b&gt;if&lt;/b&gt; the coming minimum turns out to be significant [and I meant &#039;Grand&#039;], then to name it after Eddy&quot; and not because of his discovery of it, but because of his contribution to solar science, which is considerable, while Landscheidt&#039;s is precisely nil. Astronomers have long memories and it is very likely that the actually naming is many decades or centuries in the future, when a real Grand Minimum finally emerges. The so-called, &#039;Dalton Minimum&#039; should not even be counted as a &#039;Grand&#039; minimum. [And Dalton didn&#039;t discover it - and IMHO did not make any significant contribution to solar science either, so I would not even use his name in this connection].]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis Eschenbach (18:54:59) :<br />
<i>to want honour your friend by naming the minimum for him, you are spitting on Ted Landschiedt’s memory in the process. Ted Landscheidt is the one who predicted the minimum, not Jack Eddy.</i><br />
Landscheidt&#8217;s prediction in 1981 was wrong, and we are not going into a Grand Minimum this time around. The former Grand Minima were not named after their discoverer, and neither should this one be. The true discoverer of the Grand Minima was Gustav Spoerer, not Maunder. Eddy has told me [and others] that he thought of honoring Spoerer, but decided on Maunder Minimum because it sounded better [the nice alliteration of the two 'M's], and nobody could spell Spörer correctly anyway. My proposal was not to name the coming minimum after Eddy no matter what, but as I said &#8220;<b>if</b> the coming minimum turns out to be significant [and I meant 'Grand'], then to name it after Eddy&#8221; and not because of his discovery of it, but because of his contribution to solar science, which is considerable, while Landscheidt&#8217;s is precisely nil. Astronomers have long memories and it is very likely that the actually naming is many decades or centuries in the future, when a real Grand Minimum finally emerges. The so-called, &#8216;Dalton Minimum&#8217; should not even be counted as a &#8216;Grand&#8217; minimum. [And Dalton didn't discover it - and IMHO did not make any significant contribution to solar science either, so I would not even use his name in this connection].</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Eschenbach</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/11/jack-eddy-discoverer-of-the-maunder-minimum-and-lia-1932-2009/#comment-144372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[len, Anthony is of course free to delete my post if he wishes. However, Ted Landscheidt predicted this minimum twenty years ago. Not last month or last year. Twenty years ahead of time. If the minimum actually occurs, this surely must rank as one of the most significant predictions in solar history. Why should such a remarkable achievement bear anyone else&#039;s name, no matter how good a scientist that other man might be?

To try to strip Ted of this honor just because Jack Eddy is a good man and Leif was his friend seems to me to be the kind of thing an AGW supporter might do, on a par with giving the Nobel Prize to Al Gormless ... but I expect more of a scientist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>len, Anthony is of course free to delete my post if he wishes. However, Ted Landscheidt predicted this minimum twenty years ago. Not last month or last year. Twenty years ahead of time. If the minimum actually occurs, this surely must rank as one of the most significant predictions in solar history. Why should such a remarkable achievement bear anyone else&#8217;s name, no matter how good a scientist that other man might be?</p>
<p>To try to strip Ted of this honor just because Jack Eddy is a good man and Leif was his friend seems to me to be the kind of thing an AGW supporter might do, on a par with giving the Nobel Prize to Al Gormless &#8230; but I expect more of a scientist.</p>
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		<title>By: len</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[len]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears Anthony has tastefully deleted some &#039;off topic&#039; comments on here including one of mine.

I think the last comment here may join their ranks.

I signed the petition and having a Grand Minimum named after you is not predicated simply by prescience like a stock market analyst.  I think this man engaged most of the scientific community keeping its eyes open to how much they have to explore and therefore is an excellent candidate for this honor.

The less connected colorful mavericks that may have been able to see what most of us couldn&#039;t until others corroborated the evidence sometimes aren&#039;t the ones to coallesce knowledge into a nugget of truth.  I defer to the century long fight over the nature of the Universe and the acceptance of the Big Bang Theory.  Those of us that have the conviction that the Solar Barycentric Model for Solar Variation will triumph will get our &#039;background radiation&#039; to sweep all other theories aside in due time.

Patience, we are about to observe what Jack Eddy was focused on first hand!  Hopefully, for the most part, we can have fun with it ... I mean the cold.  Lemaitre eventually recieved his recognition.  For me Jack Eddy is comparable to Hubble in that largely resolved debate.  Those who pursue knowledge in the true spirit of observation, discovery ... science ... all deserve our thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears Anthony has tastefully deleted some &#8216;off topic&#8217; comments on here including one of mine.</p>
<p>I think the last comment here may join their ranks.</p>
<p>I signed the petition and having a Grand Minimum named after you is not predicated simply by prescience like a stock market analyst.  I think this man engaged most of the scientific community keeping its eyes open to how much they have to explore and therefore is an excellent candidate for this honor.</p>
<p>The less connected colorful mavericks that may have been able to see what most of us couldn&#8217;t until others corroborated the evidence sometimes aren&#8217;t the ones to coallesce knowledge into a nugget of truth.  I defer to the century long fight over the nature of the Universe and the acceptance of the Big Bang Theory.  Those of us that have the conviction that the Solar Barycentric Model for Solar Variation will triumph will get our &#8216;background radiation&#8217; to sweep all other theories aside in due time.</p>
<p>Patience, we are about to observe what Jack Eddy was focused on first hand!  Hopefully, for the most part, we can have fun with it &#8230; I mean the cold.  Lemaitre eventually recieved his recognition.  For me Jack Eddy is comparable to Hubble in that largely resolved debate.  Those who pursue knowledge in the true spirit of observation, discovery &#8230; science &#8230; all deserve our thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Eschenbach</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leif, while it is noble of you to want honour your friend by naming the minimum for him, you are spitting on Ted Landschiedt&#039;s memory in the process. Ted Landscheidt is the one who predicted the minimum, not Jack Eddy. 

However well intentioned your proposed action might be, I find it despicable that you are trying to steal the fame from Ted. He, like Jack, was a good man, and you are proposing joining with a host of AGW supporters in trying to erase the memory of Ted and his work.

Finally, many people already call the upcoming (perhaps) minimum the &quot;Landscheidt Minimum&quot;. You&#039;re swimming upstream. You might even succeed, but to me and many others, it will always be the &quot;Landscheidt Minimum&quot;. 

As a result, you are dishonoring Jack Eddy&#039;s name by falsely giving him credit in the naming. This does neither Jacks, nor your, reputation any good. Ted&#039;s friends will certainly not thank you if you are successful, and I count myself among them. Your good intentions are leading you down a very ugly path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leif, while it is noble of you to want honour your friend by naming the minimum for him, you are spitting on Ted Landschiedt&#8217;s memory in the process. Ted Landscheidt is the one who predicted the minimum, not Jack Eddy. </p>
<p>However well intentioned your proposed action might be, I find it despicable that you are trying to steal the fame from Ted. He, like Jack, was a good man, and you are proposing joining with a host of AGW supporters in trying to erase the memory of Ted and his work.</p>
<p>Finally, many people already call the upcoming (perhaps) minimum the &#8220;Landscheidt Minimum&#8221;. You&#8217;re swimming upstream. You might even succeed, but to me and many others, it will always be the &#8220;Landscheidt Minimum&#8221;. </p>
<p>As a result, you are dishonoring Jack Eddy&#8217;s name by falsely giving him credit in the naming. This does neither Jacks, nor your, reputation any good. Ted&#8217;s friends will certainly not thank you if you are successful, and I count myself among them. Your good intentions are leading you down a very ugly path.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kierein</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Kierein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a joy to work with Jack on the book of Skylab&#039;s solar observation results.  He is sorely missed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a joy to work with Jack on the book of Skylab&#8217;s solar observation results.  He is sorely missed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please delete the apostrophe in our&#039;s moderator... thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please delete the apostrophe in our&#8217;s moderator&#8230; thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“When I die, I’ll think that’s one thing that I did that I’ll feel absolutely certain about. That the Sun really does go through prolonged period of anomalous behavior, and will again some day.”

The Sun&#039;s Secret

A secret cloaked by history&#039;s sweep
Submerged as if within the deep
In murky currents swirling slow,
An Eddy brought it from below.

He proved the sun a fickle friend
With tempers hard to comprehend.
Exuberance brings the Earth repair
And disregard a grim dispair.

Will a maunder bring the chill?
Will the storms begin to still?
Will Sol&#039;s face with blotches fill,
Or Eddy&#039;s words will Sol fulfill?

Sol may soon drift off to sleep
It will not help to pray or weep.
He&#039;ll close his eyes in slumber deep.
Life&#039;s promise, then, is our&#039;s to keep.

Rest In Peace Jack Eddy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When I die, I’ll think that’s one thing that I did that I’ll feel absolutely certain about. That the Sun really does go through prolonged period of anomalous behavior, and will again some day.”</p>
<p>The Sun&#8217;s Secret</p>
<p>A secret cloaked by history&#8217;s sweep<br />
Submerged as if within the deep<br />
In murky currents swirling slow,<br />
An Eddy brought it from below.</p>
<p>He proved the sun a fickle friend<br />
With tempers hard to comprehend.<br />
Exuberance brings the Earth repair<br />
And disregard a grim dispair.</p>
<p>Will a maunder bring the chill?<br />
Will the storms begin to still?<br />
Will Sol&#8217;s face with blotches fill,<br />
Or Eddy&#8217;s words will Sol fulfill?</p>
<p>Sol may soon drift off to sleep<br />
It will not help to pray or weep.<br />
He&#8217;ll close his eyes in slumber deep.<br />
Life&#8217;s promise, then, is our&#8217;s to keep.</p>
<p>Rest In Peace Jack Eddy</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Mackey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first reading of Jack Eddy&#039;s work in Science in 1976 has always remained vivid, just like other dramatic events, eg the assassination of President Kennedy, the first Moon walk and the first Challenger explosion.  By way of background, I live in Canberra, Australia.

At the time in 1976 I had since 1974 been a member of the Priorities Review Staff, a small group of analysts set up to advise the newly elected Prime Minister Whitlam about the goals and strategies of his Government.  By 1976 the Whitlam Government was no longer in power, the PRS had been abolished and I was advising Prime Minister Fraser about foreign policy and intelligence and security matters.  But those of us that had worked for Gough Whitlam kept in touch.

Eddy&#039;s paper ran counter to our entire outlook.  We were of the view that governments could and should change anything for the better (or worse).  My focus had been social and education policy.  The idea that agricultural productivity and therefore the supply of essential foods might be largly regulated by the Sun and beyond government&#039;s capacity to influence seemed absurd from within this outlook.  Our general view was that Eddy&#039;s idea was just another crazy idea.  And yet the thought hit me vividly that just as the tides are outside our control so might ultimately agricultural productivty.  I didn&#039;t think much beyond that - I had no understanding of the Sun or the climate.  The thing that struck me, and perhaps why my memory is so vivid, was the idea that forces external to the planet might have such power and governments might be so puny.  But I was still in the camp of government can - and should - do anything.  Improvements to agricultural productivity was one.  Over the next decades I thought no more about the Sun and Jack Eddy and all of that until I stumbled upon the work of Rhodes Fairbridge about six years ago.  By that time I had a better sense of the limits of government and about the proper role of government.  Broadly speaking, I find myself in broad agreement with Douglass North and the institutional economists.

I now deeply admire Jack Eddy for being so persistent and successful in getting his research published and helping to break and unfortunate paradigm that I once held dear. 

I can understand those who find repugnant and absurd the idea that our planet&#039;s climate dynamics might be entirely out of the influence of governments whether because the dynamics arise form internal oscillations of very complex systems or because of a determinative role of the Sun.

As with agricultural productivity, there is much that governments can do to improve things and manage our adaptive efficiency.  But if the temperatures plummet, if the droughts come, if things warm up a lot, if the floods come, we can&#039;t stop what&#039;s happening; we can learn to predict better and adapt better, but that&#039;s about it.  I am eternally grateful to Jack Eddy for helping to break an old paradigm.  In my case, I was a very slow learner - almost 30 yrs - before I really understood what he was saying back in 1976.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reading of Jack Eddy&#8217;s work in Science in 1976 has always remained vivid, just like other dramatic events, eg the assassination of President Kennedy, the first Moon walk and the first Challenger explosion.  By way of background, I live in Canberra, Australia.</p>
<p>At the time in 1976 I had since 1974 been a member of the Priorities Review Staff, a small group of analysts set up to advise the newly elected Prime Minister Whitlam about the goals and strategies of his Government.  By 1976 the Whitlam Government was no longer in power, the PRS had been abolished and I was advising Prime Minister Fraser about foreign policy and intelligence and security matters.  But those of us that had worked for Gough Whitlam kept in touch.</p>
<p>Eddy&#8217;s paper ran counter to our entire outlook.  We were of the view that governments could and should change anything for the better (or worse).  My focus had been social and education policy.  The idea that agricultural productivity and therefore the supply of essential foods might be largly regulated by the Sun and beyond government&#8217;s capacity to influence seemed absurd from within this outlook.  Our general view was that Eddy&#8217;s idea was just another crazy idea.  And yet the thought hit me vividly that just as the tides are outside our control so might ultimately agricultural productivty.  I didn&#8217;t think much beyond that &#8211; I had no understanding of the Sun or the climate.  The thing that struck me, and perhaps why my memory is so vivid, was the idea that forces external to the planet might have such power and governments might be so puny.  But I was still in the camp of government can &#8211; and should &#8211; do anything.  Improvements to agricultural productivity was one.  Over the next decades I thought no more about the Sun and Jack Eddy and all of that until I stumbled upon the work of Rhodes Fairbridge about six years ago.  By that time I had a better sense of the limits of government and about the proper role of government.  Broadly speaking, I find myself in broad agreement with Douglass North and the institutional economists.</p>
<p>I now deeply admire Jack Eddy for being so persistent and successful in getting his research published and helping to break and unfortunate paradigm that I once held dear. </p>
<p>I can understand those who find repugnant and absurd the idea that our planet&#8217;s climate dynamics might be entirely out of the influence of governments whether because the dynamics arise form internal oscillations of very complex systems or because of a determinative role of the Sun.</p>
<p>As with agricultural productivity, there is much that governments can do to improve things and manage our adaptive efficiency.  But if the temperatures plummet, if the droughts come, if things warm up a lot, if the floods come, we can&#8217;t stop what&#8217;s happening; we can learn to predict better and adapt better, but that&#8217;s about it.  I am eternally grateful to Jack Eddy for helping to break an old paradigm.  In my case, I was a very slow learner &#8211; almost 30 yrs &#8211; before I really understood what he was saying back in 1976.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[An online petition has been started to name the next solar minimum per Leif&#039;s suggestion in comments:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/13/online-petition-the-next-solar-minimum-should-be-called-the-eddy-minimum/

Nearly 200 signatures so far.

- Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An online petition has been started to name the next solar minimum per Leif&#8217;s suggestion in comments:</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/13/online-petition-the-next-solar-minimum-should-be-called-the-eddy-minimum/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/13/online-petition-the-next-solar-minimum-should-be-called-the-eddy-minimum/</a></p>
<p>Nearly 200 signatures so far.</p>
<p>- Anthony</p>
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