Now that is a new revelation to me. Please explain the Physics by which stratospheric CO2 causes cooling. CO2 has negligible absorption shorter than 2.5 microns, and less than 3.5% of the solar spectrum lies beyond that in the infrared.

Radiational losses from the excited rovibrational levels of the CO2 direct to space.

CO2 is doing pretty much all it can. More won’t change much of anything, other than making EMS’s tomato plant grow bigger.

Repeating the same rubbish doesn’t make it right! Here’s a low res graph from Modtran showing a typical outgoing spectrum illustrating some of your fallacies, you need high res to see the effect of increased CO2.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn107/Sprintstar400/Modtran-dry.gif

RE: Mike Lorrey (21:41:01), Arthur Glass (20:22:04) :

Actually I was referring back to the 1799 Kentucky Resolution written by Thomas Jefferson and, in it, his reinforcement of the Tenth Amendment – that all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved for the individual states or to the people.
http://blog.mises.org/archives/003811.asp “”"

Well far more important than Article 10 of the Bill of Rights, is Article 9; which essentially declares that “The People” retain ALL of the rights that they don’t specifically transfer to the government in the various articles of the Constitution.

In other words; if the Constitution never mentions some “right” anywhere; then clearly that is a right the people have reserved unto themslves; and in the declaration of Independence they assert that that is “self evident” so it needs no explaining by any branch of the Government; including the courts.

But I am not supposed to be schooling Americans in their own Constitution; most don’t even care anyway; based on the way they let their government behave, contrary to that remarkable document.

If that document is supposed to live and breathe as some insist, then I can’t say I have ever heard a wheeze out of it. It does change; and in accordance with an amendment process which it itself lays out in plain English; that being the language of its framers.

George

My immediate conclusion is that nobody at Real Climate ever heard of the Nyquist Sampling Theorem.

Even our 15 x 15 to 32 x 32 pixel mouse cameras take better pictures than that.

Yes I can imagine the UN dictating the future economy of this planet and its people on the basis of some “Scientific data” like those two pictures.

And they have the gall to suggest that the two pictures are meaningfully different.

Try pulling my other leg.

George

Assuming it’s a graph that you’ve created on your computer, open Microsoft Paint, then copy and paste your graph onto a blank. Save the graph in a conveneient place as a jpg. Go to a picture sharing website such as TinyPic.
http://tinypic.com/

Click on browse. Find and link your graph file. Under tags, give the graph a name. Click Upload. The resulting webpage will provide you with a number of “Links to Share”. Copy and paste the html for the “Direct Link for Layouts” to the comment you’re going to post.

Now that is a new revelation to me. Please explain the Physics by which stratospheric CO2 causes cooling. CO2 has negligible absorption shorter than 2.5 microns, and less than 3.5% of the solar spectrum lies beyond that in the infrared.

So what is the mechanism whereby CO2 in the stratosphere cools the earth ?

George

Actually I was referring back to the 1799 Kentucky Resolution written by Thomas Jefferson and, in it, his reinforcement of the Tenth Amendment – that all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved for the individual states or to the people.
http://blog.mises.org/archives/003811.asp

The graph posted here a few months back shows CO2 getting nearly 100% at 15um. And that band has a lot less energy than the shorter wavelengths. There is little incoming energy longer than 3um. Reradiated from the surface pretty much dies out at the 15um band. Not much there.

Rayleigh scattering has little effect beyond 1um, so isn’t a factor.

CO2 is doing pretty much all it can. More won’t change much of anything, other than making EMS’s tomato plant grow bigger.

But 15μm lies in the water absorption band, and there isn’t much left for CO2 to catch. The only band where CO2 makes a difference is at 4μm, where upward radiation is but a fraction of the 15μm radiation, and Raleigh scattering gets what’s left after CO2 finishes.

Yet another fallacy, there are only a few water lines in the 15μm CO2 band and they contribute very little. The major CO2 absorption band in the Earth’s atmosphere is indeed the 15μm band. Rayleigh scattering is elastic and has an extremely small cross-section so is irrelevant in this context.

This is totally incorrect, CO2 absorption in the 15μm band is not 97% saturated.

But 15μm lies in the water absorption band, and there isn’t much left for CO2 to catch. The only band where CO2 makes a difference is at 4μm, where upward radiation is but a fraction of the 15μm radiation, and Raleigh scattering gets what’s left after CO2 finishes.

This is totally incorrect, CO2 absorption in the 15μm band is not 97% saturated.