REPLY: That’s because there are no popup ads on WUWT, and I would NEVER allow any.. If you are getting popup ads, then your system is infected with malware or adware of some sorts. – Anthony

Well I can sincerely say I hope you people are right about the radiation and residuals management for nuclear waste.

More importantly for this discussion the work by Mike, and later leaders, also recognized the need for linking that information to decision support. NOAA’s funding of research and operations associated with river forecasting and management, forest fire forecasting and logistics support, agriculture decision support, and drought management have made significant contributions to helping manage the impacts of climate variability and drought.

The challenge you identify, however, is that if the service focuses strictly on climate change given the ambiguities and discrepancies that exist about the concept it is possible that NOAA will find itself allocating resources to a mirage of a problem and ignoring the valuable work it is doing with regards to climate variability.

There may well be a need for a climate service but it is one that needs to be able to continue to advance the successes that have been achieved with seasonal and decadal research. On the long term trends it needs to have a enough room to manouver that should the current theory be falsified it is able to address what are considered currently as outliers in the mainstream thought such as global cooling due to solar variability.

Do I think a climate service could be of value? I do, but with the caveat that it is not trapped in focusing only on long term trends as understood by GCM output but rather is focused on addressing climate issues of value to decision makers across a range of temporal and spatial scales.

Given the scale of the current budget deficits the issue may rapidly become moot if significant budget cuts are triggered over the next 2-3 years.

Don B (13:35:13) :
Someone should do a study about quality of stations.

Will nobody out there take up the challenge?

When there is a major storm system crossing the country, anyone in front of it can predict what the weather will be.

When conditions are setting up which are favorable to a weather change (e.g., sudden storm build-up, or the creation of a storm system), or there are no prevailing systems, models must be used to forecast what will happen.

And the models suck.

Don’t mean to be long winded but all we need is a division of NOAA to argue with each other and compete. I would love to see some investments in better surface stations properly located. new satellites with better sensors and raw data back to 1895 as advertised.

Bill Derryberry

I would advise a malware scan as you may have something that pops up these ads on your system.

You beat me to it.
When I think of Climate Services, I immediately think of climate alteration. Haven’t taken the survey yet, will get to it shortly.

Pamela Gray (17:22:19) :
I’m sure my distributor needs to know that too. They need to know where to do thier sourcing for the year, to keep the shelves stocked with their feeds. That would be an excellent service: adaptation to warming or cooling climate (and yes, weather-climate).
The sales reps eyes lit up when I told him of the Deep Solar Minimum. The sound of gears turning in his head were deafening.

British explorers cut short trek to North Pole

Beginning of article:

By CHARMAINE NORONHA, Associated Press Writer Charmaine Noronha, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 20 mins ago

TORONTO – British explorers in northern Canada to measure the thickness of floating Arctic sea ice ended their expedition short of reaching the North Pole due to an early summer ice melt, the team said Thursday.

Explorers Pen Hadow, Ann Daniel and photographer Martin Hartley had planned a three-month journey to the North Pole, but ended their arduous trek Wednesday, approximately 304 miles (490 kilometers) from their destination, said Hadow.

The trio stopped after 73 days, during which they measured the thickness of floating sea ice to provide data to scientists studying the impact of global warming in the region.

“This year, the summer melt came a little early***” Hadow said during a Webcast conference from Resolute Bay in northern Canada

***There’s your quote of the week, maybe of the year.

Climate depot has used a couple of my graphics (I take photographs and produce simple graphic designs as a hobby and licence them to be used for free). First my “No BS” graphic to illustrate on article on Plimer’s excellent book and now my witch image.

http://www.climatedepot.com/

I’m well chuffed that the images are being used in a good cause. However, there’s a flipside to this as I discovered yesterday:

http://www.supereco.com/news/2009/05/13/epa-effectiveness-on-the-upswing/

Do you think the supereco webmaster will listen if I explained to him/her that the cooling tower emissions in my power station image are water vapour and not CO2?

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