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		<title>By: Lucky Luciano</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/09/post-an-opinion-go-to-jail/#comment-163960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucky Luciano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Albert Coakes has a big ass and a small brain. The two wars he&#039;s talking about never brought any democracy anywhere in the universe. World War I led to the installation of communism in USSR while World War II led to the expansion of communism. Eastern Europe, China, Vietnam, Cuba, etc. surrendered to the communist tyranny right after the end of that war. What democracy is Albert Coakes talking about?! He has a twisted mind which delivers non-sense. Poor lunatic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert Coakes has a big ass and a small brain. The two wars he&#8217;s talking about never brought any democracy anywhere in the universe. World War I led to the installation of communism in USSR while World War II led to the expansion of communism. Eastern Europe, China, Vietnam, Cuba, etc. surrendered to the communist tyranny right after the end of that war. What democracy is Albert Coakes talking about?! He has a twisted mind which delivers non-sense. Poor lunatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick J</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mick J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This little diatribe against Environmentalists might well qualify the writer under those rules to an extended denial of freedom.
A. A. Gill is a restaurant critic for the London Times. My attention was drawn to this article due to the title &quot;Environmentalists are just not attractive&quot;. Below is a portion of the statement all forming part of a restaurant critique. Bon appetite. :)

&lt;i&gt;The truth is, environmentalists are just not attractive. They’re not winning, engaging, amusing or empathetic. They are ranty, repetitive, patronising, demanding, deaf, weirdly bonkers and smelly. Environmentalists are the nutters with degrees in composting who sit next to you on the bus. But that’s not their real impediment. The real killer thing is the schadenfreude: the naked, transparent, hand-rubbing glee with which they pass on every shame, sadness and terror. No disaster is too appalling or imminent that the green movement can’t caper and keen with a messianic glee. Take George Monbiot, the Malvolio of the green movement, who, as I’ve pointed out before, would be a geography teacher if it weren’t for the amazing good fortune of imminent apocalypse. Every week, he sifts the minute details of demise, like a jolly self-congratulatory Scrooge. Most of us would rather drown with the polar bears and Bangladesh than get in a lifeboat steered by Monbiot.&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/eating_out/a_a_gill/article6225761.ece]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This little diatribe against Environmentalists might well qualify the writer under those rules to an extended denial of freedom.<br />
A. A. Gill is a restaurant critic for the London Times. My attention was drawn to this article due to the title &#8220;Environmentalists are just not attractive&#8221;. Below is a portion of the statement all forming part of a restaurant critique. Bon appetite. :)</p>
<p><i>The truth is, environmentalists are just not attractive. They’re not winning, engaging, amusing or empathetic. They are ranty, repetitive, patronising, demanding, deaf, weirdly bonkers and smelly. Environmentalists are the nutters with degrees in composting who sit next to you on the bus. But that’s not their real impediment. The real killer thing is the schadenfreude: the naked, transparent, hand-rubbing glee with which they pass on every shame, sadness and terror. No disaster is too appalling or imminent that the green movement can’t caper and keen with a messianic glee. Take George Monbiot, the Malvolio of the green movement, who, as I’ve pointed out before, would be a geography teacher if it weren’t for the amazing good fortune of imminent apocalypse. Every week, he sifts the minute details of demise, like a jolly self-congratulatory Scrooge. Most of us would rather drown with the polar bears and Bangladesh than get in a lifeboat steered by Monbiot.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/eating_out/a_a_gill/article6225761.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/eating_out/a_a_gill/article6225761.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Glug</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/09/post-an-opinion-go-to-jail/#comment-130515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, there&#039;s nothing I like better than to harass someone and cause them “emotional distress&quot;, whatever that is, using electronic media. Nanny government has prevented me from using conventional means I won&#039;t let them take away my last medium for concerted bullying efforts.

It&#039;s political correctness gone mad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, there&#8217;s nothing I like better than to harass someone and cause them “emotional distress&#8221;, whatever that is, using electronic media. Nanny government has prevented me from using conventional means I won&#8217;t let them take away my last medium for concerted bullying efforts.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s political correctness gone mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Rodaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graeme Rodaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;CodeTech (08:38:47) : 

Graeme Rodaughan (22:35:24) : 

How about training children in Cyber-Self-Defense.

Why create a new law when you could simply empower citizens with the capability to distinguish threats from non-threats and therefore look after themselves.

I nominate this as one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time. We live in a culture specifically designed to keep us unable to distinguish threats from non-threats, where airliners full of people flown into buildings is somehow nothing to be too worried about and yet the un-measurable effect of a trace gas in the atmosphere is something to panic openly in the streets about.

More examples abound… but I’m sure you get the point.&lt;/i&gt;

CodeTech - Thanks, I was actually serious - but I get what you&#039;re saying.

Cheers G]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>CodeTech (08:38:47) : </p>
<p>Graeme Rodaughan (22:35:24) : </p>
<p>How about training children in Cyber-Self-Defense.</p>
<p>Why create a new law when you could simply empower citizens with the capability to distinguish threats from non-threats and therefore look after themselves.</p>
<p>I nominate this as one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time. We live in a culture specifically designed to keep us unable to distinguish threats from non-threats, where airliners full of people flown into buildings is somehow nothing to be too worried about and yet the un-measurable effect of a trace gas in the atmosphere is something to panic openly in the streets about.</p>
<p>More examples abound… but I’m sure you get the point.</i></p>
<p>CodeTech &#8211; Thanks, I was actually serious &#8211; but I get what you&#8217;re saying.</p>
<p>Cheers G</p>
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		<title>By: Pragmatic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pragmatic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately should this become law - the Ninth Circuit would uphold.  Because what is forgotten is the inherent human ability to discern.  Should we now ask government to discern for us that which may be offensive or &quot;hostile?&quot;  And thereby discard the common sense that tells a man to shut the door when the rain comes in?

&quot;Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.
Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately should this become law &#8211; the Ninth Circuit would uphold.  Because what is forgotten is the inherent human ability to discern.  Should we now ask government to discern for us that which may be offensive or &#8220;hostile?&#8221;  And thereby discard the common sense that tells a man to shut the door when the rain comes in?</p>
<p>&#8220;Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.<br />
Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776</p>
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		<title>By: RJ Hendrickson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RJ Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What this is, is legislated political correctness.  In a short time, anything that could possibly offend anybody at any time will not be allowed to happen, whether on the internet or not.   

In the future, we will all be shielded from any possibility of the least sort of mental or physical harm.   How incredibly tedious the future is going to be.  

And all in the name of  &#039;saving the children&#039;.   We are saving them for a future of unending boredom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this is, is legislated political correctness.  In a short time, anything that could possibly offend anybody at any time will not be allowed to happen, whether on the internet or not.   </p>
<p>In the future, we will all be shielded from any possibility of the least sort of mental or physical harm.   How incredibly tedious the future is going to be.  </p>
<p>And all in the name of  &#8216;saving the children&#8217;.   We are saving them for a future of unending boredom.</p>
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		<title>By: Adolfo Giurfa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adolfo Giurfa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know what hysteria is?, no?, then, there you are!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know what hysteria is?, no?, then, there you are!!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Kearns</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Kearns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts (13:39:10) wrote:   Mental distress! Mental distress!

Barry:  Help!  Help!  I&#039;m bein&#039; distressed!  Come see the violence inherent in the system!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Alberts (13:39:10) wrote:   Mental distress! Mental distress!</p>
<p>Barry:  Help!  Help!  I&#8217;m bein&#8217; distressed!  Come see the violence inherent in the system!</p>
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		<title>By: CodeTech</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CodeTech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Graeme Rodaughan (22:35:24) : 

How about training children in Cyber-Self-Defense.

Why create a new law when you could simply empower citizens with the capability to distinguish threats from non-threats and therefore look after themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I nominate this as one of the funniest things I&#039;ve read in a long time. We live in a culture specifically designed to keep us unable to distinguish threats from non-threats, where airliners full of people flown into buildings is somehow nothing to be too worried about and yet the un-measurable effect of a trace gas in the atmosphere is something to panic openly in the streets about.

More examples abound... but I&#039;m sure you get the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Graeme Rodaughan (22:35:24) : </p>
<p>How about training children in Cyber-Self-Defense.</p>
<p>Why create a new law when you could simply empower citizens with the capability to distinguish threats from non-threats and therefore look after themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>I nominate this as one of the funniest things I&#8217;ve read in a long time. We live in a culture specifically designed to keep us unable to distinguish threats from non-threats, where airliners full of people flown into buildings is somehow nothing to be too worried about and yet the un-measurable effect of a trace gas in the atmosphere is something to panic openly in the streets about.</p>
<p>More examples abound&#8230; but I&#8217;m sure you get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: eric anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eric anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid that to tell the Congresswoman what I think and &quot;be nice&quot; are mutually exclusive propositions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid that to tell the Congresswoman what I think and &#8220;be nice&#8221; are mutually exclusive propositions.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This bill is causing me emotional distress. This congress-critter is harassing me. Where do I sign up to sue? Hurry up and pass the bill! I need to sue Rep. Linda Sanchez!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bill is causing me emotional distress. This congress-critter is harassing me. Where do I sign up to sue? Hurry up and pass the bill! I need to sue Rep. Linda Sanchez!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bill made sense to me up until &quot;emotional distress&quot;. I agree that such a bill could be abused. It&#039;s also qualified with &quot;intent to cause&quot;, not merely that it did cause such distress for whatever reason on the reader&#039;s part. I think terms like &quot;harass&quot; have specific enough meanings that the rest of it wouldn&#039;t cause problems for blogs.

One plausible cause for the bill came to mind. Have any of you heard of Kathy Sierra? She was a prominent figure in IT and web marketing circles up until a couple years ago. She decided to cease those activities due to harassing, menacing, and threatening messages about her were posted on her blog (in comments) as well as other blogs. So I think the bill has some merit, though I agree that &quot;emotional distress&quot; is an ominous &quot;catch all&quot; provision that would leave the door wide open to abuse of this bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bill made sense to me up until &#8220;emotional distress&#8221;. I agree that such a bill could be abused. It&#8217;s also qualified with &#8220;intent to cause&#8221;, not merely that it did cause such distress for whatever reason on the reader&#8217;s part. I think terms like &#8220;harass&#8221; have specific enough meanings that the rest of it wouldn&#8217;t cause problems for blogs.</p>
<p>One plausible cause for the bill came to mind. Have any of you heard of Kathy Sierra? She was a prominent figure in IT and web marketing circles up until a couple years ago. She decided to cease those activities due to harassing, menacing, and threatening messages about her were posted on her blog (in comments) as well as other blogs. So I think the bill has some merit, though I agree that &#8220;emotional distress&#8221; is an ominous &#8220;catch all&#8221; provision that would leave the door wide open to abuse of this bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 09:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This law doesnt appear to be too bad.

If bloggers concentrate on the issues in question, rather than the personalities, then I cannot see how they could fall foul of the law.

Personal attacks are always unnecessary, and often counterproductive. Of course they are not so counterproductive if you have anonymity because no one knows who you are.

The real point of the law is to stop people using the web to &#039;bully&#039; people. We are not talking bullying the Al Gore&#039;s of this world here, we are talking about the small people. Say an ex-spouse, subject to pernicious and vile hatred due to the twisted mind of a sorry and relentless individual.

Of course there is latitude for such a law to be misused, but the courts are pretty good at distinguishing between wholesome intellectual debate and downright evil.

The latter does exist, and those who dont like the law, have to say how they would counter the occasional evil actions of others on the internet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This law doesnt appear to be too bad.</p>
<p>If bloggers concentrate on the issues in question, rather than the personalities, then I cannot see how they could fall foul of the law.</p>
<p>Personal attacks are always unnecessary, and often counterproductive. Of course they are not so counterproductive if you have anonymity because no one knows who you are.</p>
<p>The real point of the law is to stop people using the web to &#8216;bully&#8217; people. We are not talking bullying the Al Gore&#8217;s of this world here, we are talking about the small people. Say an ex-spouse, subject to pernicious and vile hatred due to the twisted mind of a sorry and relentless individual.</p>
<p>Of course there is latitude for such a law to be misused, but the courts are pretty good at distinguishing between wholesome intellectual debate and downright evil.</p>
<p>The latter does exist, and those who dont like the law, have to say how they would counter the occasional evil actions of others on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Kotler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Kotler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting link, Roger. Thanks!

My guilt over my carbon footprint causes me emotional distress. I&#039;m not sure if it rises to the level of &quot;substantial&quot;. Who decides? Me?

The Sanchez bill doesn&#039;t seem to mention &quot;harm&quot;. Should we prohibit behavior which &quot;could cause harm&quot;, or limit ourselves to &quot;did cause harm&quot;? If the former, how likely? Who decides? Mann or Hansen? :)

Best,
Frank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting link, Roger. Thanks!</p>
<p>My guilt over my carbon footprint causes me emotional distress. I&#8217;m not sure if it rises to the level of &#8220;substantial&#8221;. Who decides? Me?</p>
<p>The Sanchez bill doesn&#8217;t seem to mention &#8220;harm&#8221;. Should we prohibit behavior which &#8220;could cause harm&#8221;, or limit ourselves to &#8220;did cause harm&#8221;? If the former, how likely? Who decides? Mann or Hansen? :)</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Rodaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graeme Rodaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about training children in Cyber-Self-Defense.

Why create a new law when you could simply empower citizens with the capability to distinguish threats from non-threats and therefore look after themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about training children in Cyber-Self-Defense.</p>
<p>Why create a new law when you could simply empower citizens with the capability to distinguish threats from non-threats and therefore look after themselves.</p>
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