I am not implying that anything must increase and I am well aware of declining birth rates and that the birth rate of immigrants has tended towards the norm after a generation or two but people are still moving from rural to urban areas although our banker friends have reversed some of this as unemployed manufacturing workers return to the country.

I wonder if any bankers will receive a Nobel Prize for their part in reducing carbon emissions ;-)

As for “You probably also don’t get out of town much and observe there is plenty of empty space.”
I live in North East England and frequently visit miles of beaches so unspoilt that they have been used by the Alberta tourist office in a recent promotion much to their embarrassment.

This is the region where much of the industrial revolution started. Within a short drive I can visit the first house in the world to be lit by incandescent electric lights ( powered by hydro-electricity), the worlds first turbine powered ship or the home of much of the worlds railways yet, as you say, there is still plenty of open space.

Sadly there is nothing left of the shipyards that once built a large part of the world’s navies. As I write the last of the cranes are being transported for use in India.

Unless they’ve been captured by pirates!

Picture it, billions of people standing on some ice sheet like penguins in a blizzard thinking, “Gee, I think we were duped” but too afraid to admit it for fear of being branded a heretic.

I hadn’t thought of it before, but since bigfoot is obviously a relative of the yeti, it makes perfect sense that bigfoot must be just as endangered as the polar bears. Thanks, anon, for pointing that out.
Mike

The current zones are in relatively logical locations for their respective climates.

Some of the zones might make sense, but I don’t understand how the climate can be similar within the People’s Soviet Western Regional Climate Center, which contains both Alaska and Hawaii.

Good point, all those new green soldiers…. i mean workers need bases…

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded”.
Just some more billions to make sure we are all green as we should be…

Wansbeck (17:38:09) : As population density increases and resources become scarcer we will need a better understanding of climate variations to assist planning and avoid disaster.

1. You’re implying that population densities must increase. You’re obviously not aware that birth rates have been declining. In many regions the birth rate is below the replacement rate, so population growth would be negative if immigration was not happening. You probably also don’t get out of town much and observe there is plenty of empty space.
2. Many resources are being recycled, and with cheap nuclear-generated electricity more can be recycled (in a laboratory anything from a landfill can be broken down to component elements, but we need industrial versions of the equipment). You’re also not thinking outside your nest. There are plenty of raw materials in asteroids.
3. We need better understanding of everything. And desire and funding to do what is needed to execute good planning and avoid disaster. New York City needs to be moved due to geologic, weather, tsunami, and glacial problems, but is it likely to be moved? And a sea level rise of six inches or six feet won’t be enough to move it — except maybe cause the whole city to be raised several feet as Galveston did. A few degrees in temperature won’t affect New York City as much as if it was farmland on the edge of a desert (and I’m not saying what kind of temperature change would cause what kind of change to the farmland).

But I see something entirely different; I see proto-’administrative’ zones. That’s not to say they won’t start out as advertised, but I can ‘game’ out the logistical/administrative difficulties of a national GHG/CO2 control authority [among other things...]. As much as the Beltway Critters would like to be the center of the universe, a cap-and-trade [authority] network needs more than one command node.

Granted, this a ‘gut’ hunch on my part, but you should note that these ‘districts’ aren’t totally distinct weather zones, but they are pretty distinct geo-political zones.

Just my 2 cents.

http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/germany/sp001630/peter.html

DCTC/PCCS – Does not seem as bad as an acronym…

We can then be sure of only the most accurate and acceptable data for desemination to the people. The message is getting muddled because of all the sources of data keeping each other honest and the lack of coherent vocabulary that must only…

Invoke images of Unicorns in Meadows being Killed by Oil Corporations as they defile the planet and the Government with the “full faith and backing” ( read massive amounts of tax revenue) of the people is the only entity capable of standing in the way of these evil monliths of Capitalism that sacrifice the environment daily in the name of the cursed profit!

All Hail Central Planning! All Hail Group Think via Manipulation of Science! All Hail Massive Government Spending! All Hail Government the New Masters of the Climate!

Ok I got carried away… actually it is a very bad idea because of the real danger of central point distribution of data can lead to biases in when and how information is made available and reduce the innovation being applied in interpreting said data.