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		<title>By: Just The Facts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/23/the-left-hand-knows-not-what-the-right-hand-is-doing/#comment-132338</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 20:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Goddard

Would it be accurate to say that Antarctic Sea Ice Extent is currently on the verge of record territory?
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png

Makes sense that the MSM is pushing a new Antarctic ice melt story, i.e. sea level rise will be 3 meters instead of 5 or 6:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLE883983
http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&amp;hl=en&amp;ncl=dKOGTQFC-UIC7HMtrklq4saa1Fz2M&amp;cf=all

If the Antarctic Sea Ice trend continues, a similar article/press release to yours above, titled something like, Antarctic Sea Ice Hits A Record High and including:
- The charts from NSIDC and UIUC 
- Links so that people can verify NSIDC&#039;s and UIUC&#039;s credibility  http://nsidc.org/about/sponsors.html and http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/ view the charts on their websites  
- Several easily readable paragraphs on the science, 30 year up trend and a layman&#039;s refutation of the ozone hole cause claim,
- A concluding paragraph highlighting the recent misleading Wilkins Shelf and West Antarctic ice sheet scare studies and articles, and questioning the motivations of their authors, 

might just be one of the daggers that will help us put a fork in all of this...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Goddard</p>
<p>Would it be accurate to say that Antarctic Sea Ice Extent is currently on the verge of record territory?<br />
<a href="http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png" rel="nofollow">http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png</a></p>
<p>Makes sense that the MSM is pushing a new Antarctic ice melt story, i.e. sea level rise will be 3 meters instead of 5 or 6:<br />
<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLE883983" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLE883983</a><br />
<a href="http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&#038;hl=en&#038;ncl=dKOGTQFC-UIC7HMtrklq4saa1Fz2M&#038;cf=all" rel="nofollow">http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&#038;hl=en&#038;ncl=dKOGTQFC-UIC7HMtrklq4saa1Fz2M&#038;cf=all</a></p>
<p>If the Antarctic Sea Ice trend continues, a similar article/press release to yours above, titled something like, Antarctic Sea Ice Hits A Record High and including:<br />
- The charts from NSIDC and UIUC<br />
- Links so that people can verify NSIDC&#8217;s and UIUC&#8217;s credibility  <a href="http://nsidc.org/about/sponsors.html" rel="nofollow">http://nsidc.org/about/sponsors.html</a> and <a href="http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/" rel="nofollow">http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/</a> view the charts on their websites<br />
- Several easily readable paragraphs on the science, 30 year up trend and a layman&#8217;s refutation of the ozone hole cause claim,<br />
- A concluding paragraph highlighting the recent misleading Wilkins Shelf and West Antarctic ice sheet scare studies and articles, and questioning the motivations of their authors, </p>
<p>might just be one of the daggers that will help us put a fork in all of this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marky48</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AndyW</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In relations to the BAS article I presume there is some lag between the ozone hole and the effect on the ice extent. 

In the Antarctic summer the ice would be melting so the main effect of the winds blowing from the cold south and making more ice would be negated by the ice melting at that point.  When the ice stops melting the cold winds would help increase the area ( positive anomaly as we see) of ice.

Regards

Andy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In relations to the BAS article I presume there is some lag between the ozone hole and the effect on the ice extent. </p>
<p>In the Antarctic summer the ice would be melting so the main effect of the winds blowing from the cold south and making more ice would be negated by the ice melting at that point.  When the ice stops melting the cold winds would help increase the area ( positive anomaly as we see) of ice.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Afraid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You moron - is it any wonder I don&#039;t give my name!!!  You guys all have guns.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; And computers too, and English skills, and the ability to post coherent thought. Again, last chance, valid email address required. Please see the blog policy tab above. - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You moron &#8211; is it any wonder I don&#8217;t give my name!!!  You guys all have guns.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> And computers too, and English skills, and the ability to post coherent thought. Again, last chance, valid email address required. Please see the blog policy tab above. &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read some more of your posts!!!  OMG, why did I even bother - first your Americans and secondly your all nuts!!  The good old nutty yank never fails to surpirse me - hows your redneck agenda going?  Actually now that I think of it - America would be the first country to be affected by climate change due to its huge population, so bring on the burn baby.  The rest of the world can actually do without you lot and once you&#039;re all gone there&#039;ll probably be a climate reversal anyway.  So I guess in retrospect you are all right - theres not a thing to worry about!

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; How&#039;s the weather down there in Brisbane, getting colder is it? 

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25388810-29277,00.html

A little early don&#039;t you think? Ok I&#039;ve had my fun but if you want to continue to post here you have to provide a valid email address, otherwise snip snip - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read some more of your posts!!!  OMG, why did I even bother &#8211; first your Americans and secondly your all nuts!!  The good old nutty yank never fails to surpirse me &#8211; hows your redneck agenda going?  Actually now that I think of it &#8211; America would be the first country to be affected by climate change due to its huge population, so bring on the burn baby.  The rest of the world can actually do without you lot and once you&#8217;re all gone there&#8217;ll probably be a climate reversal anyway.  So I guess in retrospect you are all right &#8211; theres not a thing to worry about!</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> How&#8217;s the weather down there in Brisbane, getting colder is it? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25388810-29277,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25388810-29277,00.html</a></p>
<p>A little early don&#8217;t you think? Ok I&#8217;ve had my fun but if you want to continue to post here you have to provide a valid email address, otherwise snip snip &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Afraid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe all you idiots!!!!  Who cares if global warming is a farce?  Does it really matter that we change our way of life to lessen our impact.  Have any of you ever thought for a second that all the other life on earth is just as import as humans and has a right to be here?  How about some critical thinking?  Have any of you been to either of the poles lately?  Perhaps you could compare it with your last visit?  No wonder the planet is completley screwed.  Don&#039;t worry though, as long as you keep your collective heads in the sand you won&#039;t have to do anything about it.  Just keep plugging away at business as usual.  As long as you have your suburbia you&#039;ll be ok.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Ah yes, another anonymous angry person who gives a false name and false email address, (afraid@gmaicl.com) telling us how our views are so wrong, but not having the courage to stand behind his/her own posted opinion. Drive by cowardice at its finest. BTW we haven&#039;t been to the poles lately, but the US NAVY visits the north pole pretty regularly, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;have a look&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe all you idiots!!!!  Who cares if global warming is a farce?  Does it really matter that we change our way of life to lessen our impact.  Have any of you ever thought for a second that all the other life on earth is just as import as humans and has a right to be here?  How about some critical thinking?  Have any of you been to either of the poles lately?  Perhaps you could compare it with your last visit?  No wonder the planet is completley screwed.  Don&#8217;t worry though, as long as you keep your collective heads in the sand you won&#8217;t have to do anything about it.  Just keep plugging away at business as usual.  As long as you have your suburbia you&#8217;ll be ok.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Ah yes, another anonymous angry person who gives a false name and false email address, (afraid@gmaicl.com) telling us how our views are so wrong, but not having the courage to stand behind his/her own posted opinion. Drive by cowardice at its finest. BTW we haven&#8217;t been to the poles lately, but the US NAVY visits the north pole pretty regularly, <strong><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/" rel="nofollow">have a look</a></strong>. &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More craziness...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/security/stop-the-spam-and-save-the-planet/2009/04/25/1240684317710.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More craziness&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/security/stop-the-spam-and-save-the-planet/2009/04/25/1240684317710.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/security/stop-the-spam-and-save-the-planet/2009/04/25/1240684317710.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Omer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Omer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our city AGW is being used by a coterie of out of control city officials, a government minister enthralled by Gore and a small group of landowners out for themselves, to build a wind farm, which will ruin the environment, leave our water catchment exposed to a catastrophic fire and destroy property and amemity values. Check out 
http://palmerston-north.info]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our city AGW is being used by a coterie of out of control city officials, a government minister enthralled by Gore and a small group of landowners out for themselves, to build a wind farm, which will ruin the environment, leave our water catchment exposed to a catastrophic fire and destroy property and amemity values. Check out<br />
<a href="http://palmerston-north.info" rel="nofollow">http://palmerston-north.info</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just checked the water vapor levels and jet stream out over the northern Pacific.  With this same Arctic loop reaching WAY down and the jet stream rotation we have off shore, mixed with a higher water vapor picking up moisture from a warmer ocean temp, we would be in an April blizzard.  But, the ocean is cold just off shore, the cold air rotating over it is dry, and thus we are cold and dry when it gets to us.  However, this is a fairly good scenario for occasional precip.  That would mean local showers, hail and snow, depending on elevation, and with partly sunny weather to boot.  So I went to my local NWS forecast and bingo.  That&#039;s what it said.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?map.x=295&amp;map.y=198&amp;minlon=-122.11&amp;maxlon=-116.45&amp;minlat=43.57&amp;maxlat=47.67&amp;mapwidth=354&amp;site=pdt

If this were published research, it would be one, very damned short paper.  And with very few calculations.

By the way, the dust that was kicked up around here in the wind storm is heading out to the Pacific and is full of Iron.  Fish food.  Well, actually plankton food.  The salmon will be very happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checked the water vapor levels and jet stream out over the northern Pacific.  With this same Arctic loop reaching WAY down and the jet stream rotation we have off shore, mixed with a higher water vapor picking up moisture from a warmer ocean temp, we would be in an April blizzard.  But, the ocean is cold just off shore, the cold air rotating over it is dry, and thus we are cold and dry when it gets to us.  However, this is a fairly good scenario for occasional precip.  That would mean local showers, hail and snow, depending on elevation, and with partly sunny weather to boot.  So I went to my local NWS forecast and bingo.  That&#8217;s what it said.</p>
<p><a href="http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?map.x=295&#038;map.y=198&#038;minlon=-122.11&#038;maxlon=-116.45&#038;minlat=43.57&#038;maxlat=47.67&#038;mapwidth=354&#038;site=pdt" rel="nofollow">http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?map.x=295&#038;map.y=198&#038;minlon=-122.11&#038;maxlon=-116.45&#038;minlat=43.57&#038;maxlat=47.67&#038;mapwidth=354&#038;site=pdt</a></p>
<p>If this were published research, it would be one, very damned short paper.  And with very few calculations.</p>
<p>By the way, the dust that was kicked up around here in the wind storm is heading out to the Pacific and is full of Iron.  Fish food.  Well, actually plankton food.  The salmon will be very happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently the weather does not know either.  Two days ago record highs were being reported all throughout the northwest part of the US.  Yesterday record lows were recorded.  Wind differences and alternating weather fronts are to blame in both cases.  I just love weather.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the weather does not know either.  Two days ago record highs were being reported all throughout the northwest part of the US.  Yesterday record lows were recorded.  Wind differences and alternating weather fronts are to blame in both cases.  I just love weather.</p>
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		<title>By: JAQUEBAUER</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real cause for the &quot;global warming effect&quot; is all the hot air coming from the United Statas Democratic Party, Obama, and his congressional SS.  Of course Al Gore  will go down as the biggest con man in history---enough said!

And then there is  Henry Waxman, the man with pig nostrils that would do a better job as a chimney sweep, rather than his current job as Californias Nazi on congress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real cause for the &#8220;global warming effect&#8221; is all the hot air coming from the United Statas Democratic Party, Obama, and his congressional SS.  Of course Al Gore  will go down as the biggest con man in history&#8212;enough said!</p>
<p>And then there is  Henry Waxman, the man with pig nostrils that would do a better job as a chimney sweep, rather than his current job as Californias Nazi on congress.</p>
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