Thank you for the response. That is precisely what I am wondering. Is there a strong connection between the North and South? I am a bit surprised that it (the North Pacific jet stream) is so persistently loopy so late in the season. As I mentioned, the pattern currently seems very “wintery” with so much warm air being blown up against an intransigent cold air mass that keeps oscillating over Northern Canada, causing the kinks along the west coast. Normally? at this time the Pacific Northwest is being trampled by successions of Pineapple Expresses as the jet stream flows across the continent more “smoothly”. Not so this year… I guess I am wondering why this cold air is still so dominant; while at the same time the Southern “Vortex” is also so virulent? Is North/South polar weather strongly connected?

Sorry for such silly questions… Believe it or not, I have only just recently begun to look at local weather in such a global way. (If that makes sense!)

Cheers! I’ll have to look back here later. Brake job this am. in the freaking snow!

Here is an experiment: Blow smoke in a stream and have it hit something. There is back flow. Blow it harder and the back flow is turbulent. Blow it slower and the back flow is smoother. Here is another thought: Cars are built to reduce turbulence and back flow which would otherwise reduce gas mileage. Earth and its atmosphere isn’t made like that. The trade winds, especially when blowing hard, are very turbulent along the edges and when they hit something (like different air pressures, land masses, etc).

Do you check the jet stream down South?

Glad I left the snow tires on the 4Runner!

Thanks

I say “latest Halcyon Days event everrrrrrrrrrrrr!”

My message yesterday needs some explanation, so here goes. My original message is in parenthesis.

“I happened to notice a few similar dates in the two articles on WUWT. 1913 in the Solar ISN article and 1914 and 1916 in the record high temperatures in California article. Perhaps they are related.

I watched a good BBC 4 Weather programme about The Jet Stream recently (perhaps you could get into this for us), and noted that the Jet Stream has shifted Northwards in recent years. With NADO (I mean AMO) in the Atlantic and La Nina (positive PDO) in the Pacific having also started recently, I wondered are these two things related.

With the hypothess that Ocean Occilations are driven by Solar Activity are these three things related?”

Basically 1913 was the year that the sun was in the last recent deep minimum; similar to the solar minimum we are currently in.

1914 and 1916 were years when high temperatures were recorded in California – similar to the high temperatures recorded there in April 2009.

What is interesting is that the positive PDO also affects The Jet Stream.
If you look at the Wikipedia entry on the Jet Stream at – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_stream

you will see that whilst there is a positive PDO (Look at the La Nina chart in the article) the Jet Stream arches around California which explains the high temperatures there.

This is also what the Jet Stream looks like at the current time – see:-http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html

If the positive PDO drives the Jet Stream to behave as it currently does, does this therefore explain the high temps in California. Clearly a similar thing could have happened in the 1914/1916 period when similar high temperatures occurred in California.

Doesn’t this indicate a correlation between Solar minimum, positive PDO and the change in the Jet Stream and therefore why we are getting such highs in California at the moment? (and such lows and snow elswhere).

Therefore these anomalies cannot be attributable to AGW as the doomsayers keep uttering.

The Jet Stream is interesting at the moment. The northern jet stream has shifted North in Northern latitudes and the southern Jet Stream has moved south in the Southern hemisphere. The Jet Streams are located where tropical Hadley Cells meet polar Ferrel Cells creating arid zones. As the Jet Streams move toward the poles, the arid zones also move, bringing arid conditions with them. This has contributed to worrying droughts in southern Australia at the present time and to a drier southern Europe. See the National Geographic – April 2009 article.

The Great Dust Bowl in the 1930’s was also probably a consequence of the Jet Stream move – see the Wikipedia article.

Just a thought.

Yeah, I would give more chance to my grandmother’s type medicine than some untested drugs that are now being given to people.

My grandmother had a cure for infected tonsils, it was to rise and gargle with lamp-oil. You just had to be careful not to swallow it. The perfumed type was awful but it worked. I still have my tonsils.

At home we follow as much as we can a Mediterranen food guidline. We eat fish every week, meat, just butter and olive oil, plenty of red wine, salad at every meal, tomatoes, etc. We use fluoride-free toothpaste and refuse the topical treatment (our dentist and oran hygenist are amazed that we have no cavities, they always ask questions about fluoride but still give it to the other people). We rarely buy processed foods.

We have excellent health and our kids are never sick enough to skip school, the cold usually last very shortly.

Global warming stopped being called ‘global warming’ because the globe isn’t warming everywhere – far from it. Many of the stations that recorded temperature are no longer doing so. Coincidentally, these stations tended to record cooler temperatures.

As for the ozone layer, it is beginning to look unlikely that we had much, if anything, to do with it. Time will tell.

“We” are the cause of some of the Earth’s problems, yes, but much of it is natural. Despite our release of CO2 the world doesn’t appear to be warming in response. http://landshape.org/enm/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/Slide1.png Don’t listen to what people tell you (including me), go and look for yourself. You’ll be very surprised.

Rather than tracing the foot back to Earth measurements, you should rather trace the Imperial Measurements back to Pi. It is a base 22 system (22:7 the fractional equivalent of Pi)

Mile = 1760 yds
divide 8 = 220 or furlong (note the number 22)
divide 10 = 22 or chain (cricket pitch)
divide 4 = rod (5 1/2 yds)

How else do you derive a 5 1/2 unit of measure ? – it is a quarter of the 22 Pi numerator (22:7).

That’s why it ties in with the GP, for that too was constructed around Pi.

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Britannic. No, I’ve not ventured into the North Sea(!). But then actually getting the oil out is an ‘industry’, and not part of the scientific community. I’ve not ventured into the world of dieting either – where I gather people are still measured in stones and pounds. Apart from the US and Belize, the world uses Celsius. The US (and their partners Belize) WILL be using it too. Betcha.

…furlongs per fortnight…

Pure genius!! I salute you sir!

We won’t see it. We’re all going to be dead from global warming by then.

Mike! Hush! Don’t go giving Big Al any ideas.

And geez, how about that Arctic ice? That would be not weather that made that.

kim (20:57:39) :
. . . Sure, saturated fats, made from poly-unsaturated oils. I’m a little surprised the FDA couldn’t do anything about that.

Not surprising. The FDA can’t seem to do anything about the plethora of over-the-counter patent medications marketed under the guise of ‘food supplements’, despite their outrageous and totally untested claims as remedies for all manner of ailments and conditions.

Completely OT, of course, but another example of government science totally hamstrung by non-objective criteria.

/Mr Lynn

I used to be amused by the advertising that claimed their margarine was made from poly-unsaturated fats. Well, what did they do to turn those unsaturated oils to solids? They saturated them. Sure, saturated fats, made from poly-unsaturated oils. I’m a little surprised the FDA couldn’t do anything about that.
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As with most of the media, the assumption was that the Alarmist message was gospel truth. But I was struck by the degree to which obviously absurd claims simply went unchallenged, by these apparently intelligent and articulate people. E.g., this Bill fellow asserted that “the best scientists” held that CO2 over 350 ppm was ruinous for the planet, and since we were already beyond that, the crisis was upon us.

Not once, during the 20 minutes or so that I listened, did anyone call to challenge this or any other assertion. I was yelling at the radio, “CO2 has been an order of magnitude higher, with good effects—more plants!” But the callers all just bemoaned the difficulty of persuading Congress to pass Cap-and-Trade. To which the panelists responded that it was the “traditional energy interests,” i.e. the oil and coal industries, that were the obstacle, preventing us from moving to “clean” energy, like wind and solar.

Now the folks that listen to NPR are an elite of sorts (at least they think of themselves that way), and doubtless their numbers include more people in government and education than listeners to other stations. What concerns me is that for these folks there is no debate. The panelists might be aware that some hold serious scientific objections to the AGW hypothesis, but I suspect that the callers had no clue. “Climate change” for them is just a fact, a problem that government has to solve.

If scientific Realists are going to make any headway against this genteel ignorance, we are going to have to find a way to turn the discussion on its head, in a way that the NPR-listening elites, who listen only to each other, can’t ignore—to challenge their “conventional wisdom.” Otherwise, the only chance is for continuing cold and continuing recession to dampen their hopes for government to “take action against climate change.”

/Mr Lynn