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	<title>Comments on: Catlin Artic Ice Survey bio telemetry status: &#8220;demonstrational&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-118110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M. Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It’s not even “demonstational”. When you demonstrate something you are still showing something real. What they are showing isn’t even simulated; it’s a mock-up (I won’t say fake).&lt;/i&gt;

Mock data. Hansen has been getting a lot of that lately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s not even “demonstational”. When you demonstrate something you are still showing something real. What they are showing isn’t even simulated; it’s a mock-up (I won’t say fake).</i></p>
<p>Mock data. Hansen has been getting a lot of that lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-117656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you buy insurance off a company that is sponsoring an expedition that has deliberatly set out to deceive?

Catlin - A name to remember!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you buy insurance off a company that is sponsoring an expedition that has deliberatly set out to deceive?</p>
<p>Catlin &#8211; A name to remember!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: James P</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked this picture, although I don&#039;t suppose this was a bit they measured..

http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/gallery/Latest_Images_from_the_Ice/1311]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this picture, although I don&#8217;t suppose this was a bit they measured..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/gallery/Latest_Images_from_the_Ice/1311" rel="nofollow">http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/gallery/Latest_Images_from_the_Ice/1311</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony, 
Thanks for publicizing the Catlin Battle on Global Warming. As you and others in the media cast the light of truth on the Catlin action and other skirmishes in the overall War on Global Warming, the people are seeing the tremendous cost in human resources and treasure. Soon there will be protests and demonstrations in which the horrified environmentalists will be burning their World Wildlife Fund Cards.  there will be antiwar chants... Hey hey, ho ho, we don,t want your snippin war. Celebrities will will disavow this war, and soon even the government will have to surrender to the will and drag us out of this quagmire. Let&#039;s surrender and stop the killing of our dignity and common sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,<br />
Thanks for publicizing the Catlin Battle on Global Warming. As you and others in the media cast the light of truth on the Catlin action and other skirmishes in the overall War on Global Warming, the people are seeing the tremendous cost in human resources and treasure. Soon there will be protests and demonstrations in which the horrified environmentalists will be burning their World Wildlife Fund Cards.  there will be antiwar chants&#8230; Hey hey, ho ho, we don,t want your snippin war. Celebrities will will disavow this war, and soon even the government will have to surrender to the will and drag us out of this quagmire. Let&#8217;s surrender and stop the killing of our dignity and common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: waterpup</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waterpup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Delusional is more like it. I&#039;m laughing at the worshipers of Al Gore now and so will the world before too long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delusional is more like it. I&#8217;m laughing at the worshipers of Al Gore now and so will the world before too long.</p>
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		<title>By: sukiho</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115877</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sukiho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, that proves global warming isnt happening after all, thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, that proves global warming isnt happening after all, thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt; G Alston (21:36:52) :

Everything those ice holes do is demonstrational. &lt;/cite&gt;

How do we submit something for QOTW?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite> G Alston (21:36:52) :</p>
<p>Everything those ice holes do is demonstrational. </cite></p>
<p>How do we submit something for QOTW?</p>
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		<title>By: Don E</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They also complained about wet sleeping bags. At -40 nothing gets wet! You can&#039;t even make a snowball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also complained about wet sleeping bags. At -40 nothing gets wet! You can&#8217;t even make a snowball.</p>
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		<title>By: chillybean</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chillybean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“I have seen with my own eyes the irrevocable changes taking place in the Arctic Ocean.”

Pen Hadow

Last time he went was in 2003, It&#039;s a whole lot colder now but notice he didn&#039;t say which way the irrevocable changes were going. After the catlin failure we can only assume he means that it&#039;s a lot colder and more stable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I have seen with my own eyes the irrevocable changes taking place in the Arctic Ocean.”</p>
<p>Pen Hadow</p>
<p>Last time he went was in 2003, It&#8217;s a whole lot colder now but notice he didn&#8217;t say which way the irrevocable changes were going. After the catlin failure we can only assume he means that it&#8217;s a lot colder and more stable.</p>
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		<title>By: fredw</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fredw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The results of the first month of the Catlins survey point to an unexpected lack of multi-year ice ......

Truth is strong and evidencing itself by its particulars , but a lie is always weak and will not hide the true perception taking place ! Given the AGW theory the lack of first year ice was to be expected and what should be unexpected ?The thickness of the ice measured by their radar-machine ? The quantity of older ice found ? One thing is for sure they must have found something very unexpected otherwise the guys would not have used this type of expression !  Where is the proof for their handmade ice-depth surveys . Would it not be very easy to make a video to impress the whole world ? Is not that exactly what the guys are trying to accomplish ? Making a show and not showing what you are trying to do exactly ? Who is doing things like that in our society ? A magician or a medicine-man ? Anyway not a scientist !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The results of the first month of the Catlins survey point to an unexpected lack of multi-year ice &#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Truth is strong and evidencing itself by its particulars , but a lie is always weak and will not hide the true perception taking place ! Given the AGW theory the lack of first year ice was to be expected and what should be unexpected ?The thickness of the ice measured by their radar-machine ? The quantity of older ice found ? One thing is for sure they must have found something very unexpected otherwise the guys would not have used this type of expression !  Where is the proof for their handmade ice-depth surveys . Would it not be very easy to make a video to impress the whole world ? Is not that exactly what the guys are trying to accomplish ? Making a show and not showing what you are trying to do exactly ? Who is doing things like that in our society ? A magician or a medicine-man ? Anyway not a scientist !</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Green</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is another group that supposed to be out on the ice as well.  I wonder if the Catlin group will run into them?

http://expeditions.iceaxe.tv/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another group that supposed to be out on the ice as well.  I wonder if the Catlin group will run into them?</p>
<p><a href="http://expeditions.iceaxe.tv/" rel="nofollow">http://expeditions.iceaxe.tv/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nasif Nahle</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nasif Nahle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PMM (13:16:21): 

&lt;i&gt;Presumably, they are aware that they are paying good money to turn their corporate name into a synonym for “farce”. . . . I suspect there are an increasing number of red faces that are not caused by -35 degree temperatures. . . .&lt;/i&gt;

And &quot;Money is Stronger than Truth&quot;... Who said that? I don&#039;t recall who said that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PMM (13:16:21): </p>
<p><i>Presumably, they are aware that they are paying good money to turn their corporate name into a synonym for “farce”. . . . I suspect there are an increasing number of red faces that are not caused by -35 degree temperatures. . . .</i></p>
<p>And &#8220;Money is Stronger than Truth&#8221;&#8230; Who said that? I don&#8217;t recall who said that.</p>
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		<title>By: PMM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PMM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several posters have asked who is paying for the expedition.  As I understand it, the principal sponsor is Catlin Insurance, whose home page is:
http://www.catlin.com/

The link for contacting their various worldwide offices is:
http://www.catlin.com/cgl/contact_us/

Presumably, they are aware that they are paying good money to turn their corporate name into a synonym for &quot;farce&quot;. . . .  I suspect there are an increasing number of red faces that are not caused by -35 degree temperatures. . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several posters have asked who is paying for the expedition.  As I understand it, the principal sponsor is Catlin Insurance, whose home page is:<br />
<a href="http://www.catlin.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.catlin.com/</a></p>
<p>The link for contacting their various worldwide offices is:<br />
<a href="http://www.catlin.com/cgl/contact_us/" rel="nofollow">http://www.catlin.com/cgl/contact_us/</a></p>
<p>Presumably, they are aware that they are paying good money to turn their corporate name into a synonym for &#8220;farce&#8221;. . . .  I suspect there are an increasing number of red faces that are not caused by -35 degree temperatures. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick Michael</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; Lucy Skywalker (08:28:17) :

... if you Google “Catlin Arctic” you still get 37 rubbish links before WUWT.&lt;/i&gt;

But if you Google &quot;Catlin Arctic Survey&quot; WUWT is #3.

They&#039;re in trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Lucy Skywalker (08:28:17) :</p>
<p>&#8230; if you Google “Catlin Arctic” you still get 37 rubbish links before WUWT.</i></p>
<p>But if you Google &#8220;Catlin Arctic Survey&#8221; WUWT is #3.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Green</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/14/catlin-artic-ice-survey-bio-telemetry-status-demonstrational/#comment-115682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an explantion of why they are seeing first year ice. They are going around in circles over the same area. They need to mark the holes they have already drillied because of these guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polar_bears_near_north_pole.jpg

and scroll down to see the sub with polar bears.....

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73330]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an explantion of why they are seeing first year ice. They are going around in circles over the same area. They need to mark the holes they have already drillied because of these guys.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polar_bears_near_north_pole.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polar_bears_near_north_pole.jpg</a></p>
<p>and scroll down to see the sub with polar bears&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73330" rel="nofollow">http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73330</a></p>
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