Al Gore Leaves The Light On For Ya
From Nashvillepost.com
By Kleinheider
Even during Earth Hour. President of the Tennessee Center For Policy Research Drew Johnson takes a Saturday drive by Al Gore’s during the time most environmentalists went dark:
I pulled up to Al’s house, located in the posh Belle Meade section of Nashville, at 8:48pm – right in the middle of Earth Hour. I found that the main spotlights that usually illuminate his 9,000 square foot mansion were dark, but several of the lights inside the house were on.
In fact, most of the windows were lit by the familiar blue-ish hue indicating that floor lamps and ceiling fixtures were off, but TV screens and computer monitors were hard at work. (In other words, his house looked the way most houses look about 1:45am when their inhabitants are distractedly watching “Cheaters” or “Chelsea Lately” reruns.)
The kicker, though, were the dozen or so floodlights grandly highlighting several trees and illuminating the driveway entrance of Gore’s mansion.
I [kid] you not, my friends, the savior of the environment couldn’t be bothered to turn off the gaudy lights that show off his goofy trees.
More here
Here’s a look at Al Gores Nashville mansion:
Vice President Al Gore has purchased this home, in Nashville’s exclusive Belle Meade section, for a reported USD2.3 million. The deed for the Colonial-style home, which sits on 2.09 acres of some of the city’s most expensive land, was signed on June 17, 2002. Gore and his wife, Tipper, will keep other homes in Tennessee and Virginia. It was published February 28, 2007 that research group in Tennessee, where the former vice president lives, claims that Mr Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville consumes more electricity in a month than the average American household uses in a year.
Photo and description Source: Daylife
You can see it here on Google Maps
From an aerial view looking south you can see what could be a handful of solar panels, though the orientation is puzzling if that is what they are. Update: in comments it it pointed out that they may also be skylights, which seems more probable. So it appears there are no solar panels on Mr. Gore’s home. Note the SUV fleet.
Here is a view looking east:
UPDATE: The photos above don’t show solar panels, however an alert commenter found this photo showing the placement on the one flat section of roofing shown in the aerial views above:
The 34 panels look to be between 200 and 250 watts each, for a total capacity at full sun of 6.8 to 8.5 kilowatts for the system.They will provide an offset, but will not fully replace energy consumption there. Given the 10,000 sq foot size and the pool, this is an undersized installation for the home. Some ground based panels would have helped.
– Anthony
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Hypocrisy is alive and well in the Gore household.
Earth hour involved switching off ALL the lights as I unfortunately experienced at a birthday dinner last night, by candlelight… everywhere! I pointed out to the greenies present that candles emit CO2 and stood confused for a minute and then they sort of just glanced at the light and said… “Oh but it emmits less!!”
Ah I must admit I wouldn’t miss “Cheaters” even for earth hour, if I was a greenie! 🙂
NOTE: After thinking about it I’ve decided to delete Peter Hearndon’s comments, and all subsequent related ones. His childish troll post was solely to influence the entire thread, and it worked. My mistake was not nipping it in the bud, and one I will not repeat.
– Anthony
* correction, THEY stood confused
[snip]
Fwiw, I happily switched off some lights last night. But, some snooper found that Al Gore had lights on. Big deal, it doesn’t change the science does it?
Welcome to your Gorey Bed, Procrustes*.
Simply a divine fit; or, we’ll hack off/stretch your legs to force you to fit.
…-
“Framework Convention of Climate Change
sixteen page PDF document outlining the ‘provisional agenda’ of the UN March 29 Conclave in Bonn, Germany.
[Memo obtained by FOX News]”
Link from here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2217580/posts
…-
“”What an incredible planet in the universe this will be
when we will be one human family living in justice,
peace, love and harmony with our divine Earth,
with each other and with the heavens.”
– Robert Muller,
UN Assistant Secretary General”
http://green-agenda.com/
*”… “Procrustes” is based off of an ancient Greek mythological legend of the giant Procrustes, who waylaid travelers and then forced them to sleep in his bed. Being the hospitable type, Procrustes insisted that the bed fit the visitor. Being the callous and cruel type, Procrustes also insisted that the guest be the one who suffered the “adjustment.” Procrustes would either hack off a certain length of the guest’s legs, if too tall, or would stretch the guest on the rack, if too short.”
(stateofprotest)
listen carefully, you don’t get the picture!.
All the rules to curb CO2 and to save energy are directed at the common people.
The ruling elite who exploit the common people are exempt.
If you don’t get the picture, just read “Animal Farm” written by George Orwell.
In this book the principles of our new brave society are very well explained.
Well, of course he snubbed it, it’s not intended for him! People in charge need electricity to do stuff, how are they supposed to get it done otherwise?!
I’m sure he bought extra carbon offsets for the lighting and other electricity used during that hour, right?
Can we juxtapose the Catlin explorers freezing to death next to the thumbs up again? Oddly, it seems more appropriate here, since they turned their lights off for Earth Hour, which seems like such a small gesture for Gore to make. Yet he couldn’t.
Surely Lord Gore can’t be bothered with such a mundane and stupid thing as Earth Hour. This is a silly contrivance for the amusement of the peasants who’ve yet to learn their place in the greater scheme of things as we rush headlong into a new feudal society.
Peter, this is important because it shows that Al isn’t a true believer. If he practiced what he preached, that would indicate he really believes it. He doesn’t and that casts doubt on his “faith.”
Yet, on one level, I agree with you — who cares what a non-scientist thinks about AGW. Al Gore could be a hypocrite or a liar or a clown or whatever and still be on the right side in all this. We’ll just have to wait and see who’s right.
However, if Gore turns out to be wrong, this stuff will be a footnote.
Al Gore is a fortunate man to live in such a fine house. I admire him for it. Could one say I was Green With Envy?
Peter Hearnden
Suggest you find a blog more suited to your tastes and opinions, and spare us hearing yours on a constant whining basis. Do you not think it might have occurred to Al that someone may have come around to have a look at his house during Earth Hour? As it obviously either didn’t occur to him, or he couldn’t care less, what does that say about him do you think?
And what science would that be?
Enlighten us. How’s that AGW theory working out for ya?
Do you have a chart for the last 100 years where CO2 increase leads temperature increase without exception?
I’ll wait for your answer……..
I won’t share my opinion of Mr. Gore since it might be viewed as “insulting” him.
Peter Hearnden @13:04:18
Al Gore is a post-modern Elmer Gantry. Read the book; watch the movie. It is the perfect description of this charlataine.
Peter Hearnden;
Compared to the derision heaped on “skeptics” on alarmist blogs (cough, realclimate, cough), I would think Mr. Gore can take a little heat here. As well, blaming Mr. Watts for what we as readers post on his blog is a little silly. And further more, as Mr. Gore is the posterboy for AGW, people have the right, and duty, to point out his hypocrisy.
Guess Peter Hearnden forgot that its the AGWers that resort to Ad Hominem…Sorry to disappoint…
Oh and btw of what science do you speak? The one that says that the earth is getting cooler?
G
Peter Hearnden (13:13:41) :
Fwiw, I happily switched off some lights last night. But, some snooper found that Al Gore had lights on. Big deal, it doesn’t change the science does it?
Which is presumably while yours were off Al’s were on?
Peter Hearnden,
You say:
“Fwiw, I happily switched off some lights last night. But, some snooper found that Al Gore had lights on. Big deal, it doesn’t change the science does it?”
May I conclude from your words that hypocricy is not a big deal to you?
Does your contribution to this forum change the science?
No doubt those flood lights are essential to the personal protection plan needed to ensure his Goreship is not harmed by denialist peasants.
“Big deal, it doesn’t change the science does it?”
No, Peter, you’re right. It doesn’t change the science one iota.
What science precisely? I have been waiting for the warm-mongers to provide me with some science for months. The only science I get is from here or Milloy’s ‘Junk Science’ site.
For all I know what I read here and there is a load of cr*p but it comes with some sensible, logical, plausible and politely worded arguments which look to me to make more sense than the evermore alarmist pronouncements that the Arctic is going to be ice-free in two years or five or ten and that this will cause sea level to rise by 5 metres (or 10 or 20 or 40) perhaps over the next 10 years (or 20 or 50); that CO2 (an essential gas for the maintenance of life on earth and which has in the past been at considerably higher levels than at present) is a dangerous pollutant.
And none of this comes with scientific proof and almost invariably comes with ad hominem attacks from people who patently have no more knowledge of the science than I have but (unlike me) appear to have no desire to learn, presumably because they are scared witless that the “facts” might just not be quite what they would like them to be.
(Though why they want to believe the doom and gloom that is all Hansen, Gore et al have to offer beats me.)
“Earth Hour” is to make the canaille feel good about themselves for “protecting” the earth. The people who thought up the fraud and are benefitting financially from it don’t have to participate.
The problem is not Al Gore…it is the media refusing to highlight his double standards.
The AGW’s could not have got this far if it were not for a compliant media.
The same could be said of 9/11.
Today I received an email today from 9/11 Truth regarding an apparent breach of U.S. Law.
It appears that as and when special emergency powers are invoked they have to be re-submitted to Congress every 6-12 months (not sure which).
This was evidently put in after Watergate and Cheney hated it.
Looks as if Bush road roughshod over it in the end and when the Democrats were reminded of their right to call for a review and vote they did nothing.
There is now a campaign starting to lobby politicians to ensure this does not happen again.
However just like climate issues the media choose to ignore.
They are the problem…and it is a great concern for many of us in the Uk as well as we have the same issues as you.
Sort out the media and you will sort out the politicians.
Nice house. A bit too big for my tastes but whatever. It’s ironic that those such as Gore stridently lecturing middle class Americans that OUR specific lifestyles and largesse are endangering the planet live like kings oblivious to their own excessive big fat carbon footprints.
If those are actually solar panels on the north facing roof, this post would not only confirm my assessment of Algore’s hypocrisy, but also my assessment of his intelligence.
I get a kick out of some neighbors who participated…
They turned out their lights.
Then they had a get together in their back yard complete with tiki-torches, burgers on a charcoal BBQ, and a propane heater to fend off the cold.
Their ‘mistake’ can, I guess, be forgiven. They did what they were told they should do and most likely do not understand why. Gore on the other hand, has no excuse. But then, he is special and thus his contributions don’t count.
While Gore basks in the luxury of his estate; millions die each year in Kenya in part due to the lack of electrical power. They are not permitted to construct a much needed coal fired power plant. Al Gore is, in part, responsible for that situation. The annual energy consumption of Gore’s lavish home could save thousands of lives if it were applied elsewhere, such as in Kenya.
I have a severe problem with people such as Al Gore. His alarmist position and activities, to me, is essentially killing people. All the while he enjoys the convenience and splendor provided by that which he would have, and does have, others denied of.
Do as I say, do not do as I do. This is the politics of CHANGE. Most of Obama’s cabinet nominees to fix our economy are tax cheats. It’s only proper for one of his main Climate Change advisors to act this way. BURN BABY BURN!!!!
In Brisbane it was reported that for Earth hour lots of people *drove* up to the top of Mt Coot-tha to watch the lights go out for Earth hour.
You just can’t make this stuff up.
Inevitably, Mr. Gore’s hypocrisy will be defended. But before you start posting with indignant fury that someone would dare call him out over something ‘insignificant, ask yourself:
How much could Al Gore’s energy usage help these people?
http://www.worldonfire.ca/
It seems to me that any honest person would be disgusted by that level of hypocrisy.
@Peter Hearnden (13:13:41) :
“[…]But, some snooper found that Al Gore had lights on. Big deal, it doesn’t change the science does it?”
No, it doesn’t change the science. It tells me he probably believes the science to be BS (bad science).
Well, you know, those environmental rules are only for the “little people.” And it looks like those carbon offsets are a REALLY lucrative proposition, eh?
Doesn’t change the point of Earth Hour being to sell newspapers and advertising space either 😉
Those are not solar panels. Those are skylights. See how they are all aligned with the windows on that side of the house, as their location is based upon the rooms rather than the sun.
Now, now, people. The Earth Day promotion said to turn off “unnecessary” lights. Obviously the lights we see are required for the proper functioning of the Gore Compound. Who knows what kind of horrors could befall those poor trees if they were deprived of their late-night artificial illumination. 😉
Are those SUVs I see in Al’s driveway?
Just in Peter Hearnden’s honor and showing that I too can recycle, here’s a post I did a couple weeks ago
BUT WHAT IF AL GORE IS RIGHT AND THE ICE MELTS IN FIVE YEARS!
I’ve been tortured by this prospect so I went on a search to find a mitigation strategy. After developing a computer modeling program, I have determined that by the year 2013, Al will be big enough to fill the entire Arctic basin. If we dress him in a white suit and tether him to the geographic North Pole, we can replace all the albedo lost from the melting ice!
The output of this model is “robust” (f you don’t believe me just take a look at Al). Unlike the IPCC, I can say with 100% confidence the problem is man made.
How can we pay for this project? First with the carbon credits generated from having Al tethered in one location. Second, we can use corporate sponsorships (from all of Al’s new friends) and put patches all over Al’s white suit. Individual sponsorships would also be available for which I’m sure a lot of readers would be interested in purchasing. Lastly, would be the naming rights. Anthony, would you be up for this?
There is science, then there is the interpretation of that science.
Many years ago I worked with a research professor in EE at a state institute of technology. At the time the ‘scare of the week’ was that low level electric fields, such as those caused by air conditioners and refrigerators, could cause leukemia.
I asked him what his take was on it. He said, until the researchers unplug their own AC units and fridges, he wasn’t worried. If they didn’t buy into their own research enough to do that, then they were only trying to secure more research funds.
Gore has access to all the experts in the field of climate. If it doesn’t bother him to needlessly dump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, regardless of “off-sets” he may buy, then that screams that there is no problem.
If he cut himself off the grid to reduce his carbon footprint, bought property in northern Canada for a “summer home”, or purchased land in central South Carolina with plans to build a beach resort, then I might pay attention. And if he successfully pushes cap and trade agreements between countries, then I will be pushing for the same type of arrangements on an individual basis. It woud be worth it to see Gore have to spread his wealth among us peons in order to buy enough carbon credits to keep his swimming pool heated.
Those roof structures look like skylights to me, not solar panels.
On March 29, 2009, the RealClimate blog posted a piece titled Lies, Damn Lies and Science. They highlighted an article in EOS, a publication of the American Geophysical Union, about a study of about 10,000 “Earth Scientists on two questions. The first was whether, “compared with pre-1800 levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?” The second asked “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”
The author did a bit of cherrypicking and claimed that the article in EOS said that “about 58% of the general public in the US thinks that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing the mean global temperature, as opposed to 97% of specialists surveyed.” Of the over 10,000 Earth Scientists who were sent the questions, about 30% replied. They responded 90% “rising’ on question 1 and 82% “Yes” on question 2. The “specialists” who voted 97% “Yes”, were a sub-group of self-described climate scientists who had published peer-reviewed climate change papers. RealClimate ignored the 82% figure, which also means that they ignored the fact that almost 1 in 5 Earth Scientist did not answer “Yes” – meaning that 18% feel man’s contribution is not significant.
I sent in a comment, describing the study and the fact that only 82% of Earth Scientists felt that human activity was a significant factor. I opined that the study was virtually pointless because they only asked if human activity was a “significant” factor, not the major or most important factor. I suggested that significant is not at all the same as most important, and since proponents of AGW (I think I mistyped it “AGM”) declare that human causes are the most important (and almost sole) factor in climate change, the question was pointless. I went on to suggest that it was irresponsible for policymakers to be considering trillion dollar taxes or cap and trade schemes, especially when the economy is so fragile, when almost 1 in 5 Earth Scientists say man’s activities are insignificant.
I posted my comment and a couple of the usual snarky (but non-substantive) replies came in:
“(and almost sole) ”
A statement often made by denialists. I wonder where they get all the straw from and how the poor horses and cows manage without their winter feed.
Comment by Mark — 29 March 2009 @ 3:59 PM
And there’s a beautiful example of the problem — incomprehension by bobz (misunderstanding “significant” and not clear on the verb tense of “is” either). One poll question for him confirms his faith that everything published is wrong.
Comment by Hank Roberts — 29 March 2009 @ 4:21 PM
After a while, I went back to see if anyone had actually addressed my points, but to my shock, my post had been deleted! The comments by Mark and Hank Roberts remained (now totally bizarre because they refer to something that no longer existed) but the total number of comments had now been reduced and mine was not among them. I guess Gavin was more sensitive than usual, but I wonder if they may not have now decided that they will no longer broach any discussions by deniers. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
It is, I think, quite appropriate that the title to the piece was Lies, Damned Lies and Science. How ironic.
Ron de Haan (13:15:59) :
listen carefully, you don’t get the picture!.
All the rules to curb CO2 and to save energy are directed at the common people.
You are correct. Commercial, Industrial and Utility are too big to cut back.
Having already hit the law on diminishing returns on residential, they now use Cap & Trade (Cut & Tax) as a Green Initiative.
It won’t turn out a single useless street lamp, let alone make a real dent in the grid load.
Even the supporters of this event freely admitted it was all about the symbolism.
I don’t think the symbolism is lost on people – and it is relevant to Al Gore – it’s one of the clearest ‘let them eat cake’ statements of the past few hundred years.
Having fun watching ‘Snowball Earth’ on the Science Channel. So many tropes being thrown about…the Earth saved by evil CO2…home-made chili and climate science…yummy.
Try to catch the repeat…
Read this front page [snip]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/30/climate-change-nicholas-stern-interview
Because much of southern Europe will be desert. Other places will become underwater.
Southern Europe has been very desert like for hundreds of years and is showing no sign of drought. There is also no sign of any place being threatened by sea level rise.
You’re already seeing people moving in Darfur, where droughts devastated the grazing land of pastoralist people
Darfur’s population movement is because the Sudanese government-backed Janjaweed have been slaughtering the non-Muslim black population. As for drought, 130 years ago General Gordon witnessed and was killed in a Sudan no different to how it is today.
We’re seeing that already on just a 0.8 degree rise.
That 0.8 degree rise is easily contestable if you make corrections for 19th to 20th century smog and 20th century urban heat island effects. Without such contaminated data the real temperature rise over the last 150 years is about 0.35 degrees.
Both respectable professions, but you don’t go to them for the science of climate change, you go to scientists. And what do you hear? That this is basically simple physics. It’s not as if it’s something strange or mysterious that people can’t explain to you. It’s not something outside the experimental. The greenhouse effect is something you can observe experimentally – and most people have observed the greenhouse effect themselves, in greenhouses. Yes?
A challenge then. Would Nicholas Stern debate with Dr John Christy on TV?
Does Stern feel angry with sceptics – or, as he calls them, irrational optimists? “Well, they’re marginal now
I have looked at the comments sections on the Guardian, the Telegraph, YouTube, the BBC, etc and it seems quite clear that sceptics are a majority, but unlike activists they have jobs to go to and do not hijack trains or airport runways. The media, especially the Guardian, practises suppression of dissent wherever and whenever it can. Sceptics are the silent majority and it takes little to make them noisy if you keep lying to them.
We can all make fun of Al but here is the truly important news of the day:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-envoy-Time-to-act-on-apf-14777300.html
Surely there must be more we can do to convince our government that AGW is a non issue. Otherwise, I truly do fear for our future.
Its simple really
Al Gore didn’t participate because he didn’t “invent” Earth Hour.
I’m not a Gore supporter at all, but him ignoring Earth Hour puts him right where the majority of the rest of us were.
I know it seems hypocritical, but I’d rather see us lay off the “gotcha” issues.
That glow emanating from the interior of The Goracle’s home was not evidence of electricity use. Crystal balls just naturally glow in the dark when The Goracle peers inside them to divine the future. Appropriately, during “Earth Hour” The Goracle was especially hard at work preparing to save mankind with additional prognostication. He doesn’t do it for his own large (humongous, actually) self and the money rolling in is really an embarrassment. He does it for “the little people”.
Hmm – one pic. of the no. on a gatepost is a bit light (ho ho) in the age of digisnaps evidence…
Dear friends: Come down here, as soon as possible, these guys, as we say in spanish, “are spitting to the sky”…
Chances are that, for the sake of the majority of the human kind, they will be buried under a mile or more under the ice, or under trillions of tons of those green papers which are being irrationally manufactured.
They will be happy: Their armageddon is for sure.
Maybe he turned off one of his other homes he wasn’t using at the time? lol!
Or he bought carbon credits from his own carbon credit company , no hypocrisy there of course.
And I’m being thuper duper therial.
A recent rock concert in Australia decided they would be ‘green’ and, rather than using mains electricity they had people riding bicycle generators.
Don’t these people realise that we humans exert CO2 and the people exerting themselves to produce the power will be exhaling lots more than normal.
Hypocrisy abounds
OOPS!
Should have been “Don’t these people realise that we humans exhale CO2…”
I don’t think Gore’s a hypocrite, he’s a salesman. If you pay attention, you’ll see that Al virtually never practices what he preaches. I doubt if most snake oil salesmen were big consumers of their own goods, advertising jargon to the contrary. Gore’s in the “selling Al Gore” business, not the “save the world” business, and judging by his modest, well-lit home, he’s doing rather well.
Not so much a hypocrite as a huckster.
A significant portion of Al Gore’s family wealth was derived from….OIL!
One thing to remeber about Earth Hour, all the power plants were still running, still generating, still burning coal, oil or gas.
Turning off some lights for 60 minutes doesn’t conserve energy, doesn’t reduce emissions.
@ all WUWT fans,
I was going to single out one of the above hilarious statements as my favorite of the evening; imagining there are a few that would be in the running for quote of the week.
Couldn’t pick.
You’re all danged funny. (with a few jaundiced exceptions)
Thanks, Anthony, for creating a venue where we can learn AND laugh.
Lord knows – we need the levity.
Comforting to know that Al will return his lights to normal operation for the next 3,759 hours. Every little bit “heps!”
“Al Gore is a post-modern Elmer Gantry. Read the book; watch the movie. It is the perfect description of this charlataine.”
I beg to differ… Al Gore is a post-modern Elmer Fudd.
There are many people in the world who would aspire to have Al’s Carbon Footprint.
May we all be blessed to have a CO2 footprint as large as Al’s.
This is doubly amusing because Nashville was supposed to be one of the “premier cities” for Earth Hour. Vanderbilt University had a huge event for it with glow-in-the-dark games and soy candles (lol) and acoustic music. The honky-tonks on Broadway turned off their lights and the musicians played acoustic. The NHL game was scheduled for an earlier time so that the arena could observe Earth hour. The city really stepped up to show its support for Earth Hour, but Al Gore–the guy largely responsible for this nonsense–couldn’t be bothered to stop illuminating his trees for an hour.
Good metaphor for this whole debacle if you ask me.
Like Gore, apparently Californians didn’t get the memo to go dark. http://sowellslawblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/busted-earth-hour.html
As I watch the snow fly on March 29th,Al’s home is no Sistine Chapel,I want a Sistine
Chapel if I have to pay Carbon Indulgences…
Peter Hearnden, I agree: Al Gore does not need anyone else to make him the center of attention and ridicule as he does it himself masterfully. As for the science, we all know what it is worth: a political award. However, when one preaches like he does, he cannot expect that technology and people will not be curious about his actions… just as Eliott Spitzer’s wife must be now…
Last year I did turn every lights on, this year I simply ignored it and went my business as normal, just like the neighborhood did from what I could see.
If people get the politicians they deserve, people in the U.S. must have been very, very bad.
OT, but Anthony might want to cover this one:
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/42214/title/Bracing_for_global_climate_change_is_a_local_challenge
Pat (17:49:23)
http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/Electricity/Data/Realtime/Demand/Demand8.htm
So where does the electricity go instead?
[snip]
BTW The Goreacle was on Simpsons tonight, consoling Homer about losing a Class President election in HS. “I lost a Presidential Election, and I did OK (pulls out Nobel and whispers to “Alfred”).
Not nearly as funny as the ManBearPig (lisping “I’m CEREAL!”) episode on Southpark, but pretty good to see Al hanging at Moes.
“For scientists the answer is clear enough, as the examples mentioned are the result of natural climate variability, which does not contradict the human-induced long-term warming trend.”
Why does the term ‘climate variability’ only apply when it is colder?
I’m getting pretty tired of the media, government and environmental special interest groups dictating what is truth.
This whole AGW farce is ten years past it’s use-by date. It is no longer about science, weather or climate. It’s about a political agenda and a Socialist, global agenda at that.
I don’t mind Political debate, nor a redefinition of societal goals and direction….. But only if the process is based on facts and knowledge to arrive at an accepted truth for people to discuss.
Once again we have a “Vanguard” of elites pretending to support the interests of the people, the planet and the future…… But as usual. It is all based on a lie.
It’s an obvious lie and it’s time it was called one.
(I posted this by accident on another thread, it was meant for this one. sorry ’bout that)
DJKP (13:45:06) :
. . . As well, blaming Mr. Watts for what we as readers post on his blog is a little silly.
Absolutely disagree, DJKP. Mr Watts is indeed responsible for what we readers post, because he makes this space available to us and interferes little with what profound or inane things we post.
cf, if you would, to RealClimate, where anyone posting the least slightly embarrassing question or inconvenient fact challenging the AGW orthodoxy is summarily excised. Questions that cannot be answered are not asked, at least after the ‘moderator’ notices them.
The choir preaching is done over there on RC. Our congregation includes saints, sinners, and agnostics, all given freedom to comment and challenge, and Mr Watts is indeed to blame for it.
Peter Hearnden (13:13:41):
Fwiw, I happily switched off some lights last night. But, some snooper found that Al Gore had lights on. Big deal, it doesn’t change the science does it?
Sir… Please, give me a comprehensible (scientific) definition of “climate change”. Why AGWers and the IPCC evade explaining ecological succession?
Dear Al,
Do you want to make MY taxes and energy costs a lot higher because you know you’ll not feel any burden or pain yourself from doing so?
Just wondering.
Cause that’s really mean.
Especially when I won’t see any beneift ever.
If I coulda, I woulda had the TV on and the oil heater going. After the weather blew out the electricity and if I hadn’t had a wood stove in the bedroom, I would have had to fire up the kerosene space heater as well as the wood cook stove in the kitchen. People who have lived in the lap of “all utilities paid” luxury era have no idea how farmers in remote parts of this country do every thing they can to stay warm. It was true 100 years ago, it was true 50 years ago. It is true now. There are many people who can’t stay warm at night, including folks in cities. The people that started Earth Hour have no idea that people die in cold weather. Turning off the electricity for an hour when it is fed to you 24-7 otherwise is just pandering. Plain and simple.
Instead of this smarmy campaign, we should be asked to voluntarily turn off our electricity for an hour and donate the cost to charities that keep the elderly and homeless from freezing to death.
If you want to know how to act, watch the profet. He is obviously not heading the way he says everyone else must head. I wonder why…
Isn’t Gore’s new book to be about solutions to the ‘climate crisis’? I wonder if saving energy by switching off the unnecessary light will be mentioned as one of them.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
– Verse 1 of W B Yeats’ “The Second Coming” (1920).
Just thought this thread needed a bit of culture, and some perspective.
Too much needless anger and pathos…
Don’t bother about Al Gore – Al and all this global warming lunacy will soon be just another example of “popular delusions and the madness of crowds”.
Like Y2K, Tulip Mania and other such nonsense, people will be wondering what all the fuss was about, and how folks could be so gullible.
And all the politicians who fell for this warmist fear-mongering will be trying to graciously back away from their idiotic statements, like “the science is settled” and “we must act now to save the planet”.
That means you too young Barack – it’s not too late to take a science course.
Obama isn’t our first green President, but few have exhibited his total lack of experience.
Regards, Allan
Robert Wood (13:33:25) sez: “Al Gore is a fortunate man to live in such a fine house. I admire him for it. Could one say I was Green With Envy?”
I think it’s really those lit up trees you covet, Robert. Sounds like greenness envy, to me.
The Holy Global Warming Gospel from two Holier-than-Thou evangelists (Al Gore on his nonpolitical (!) carbon credit, cap, & trade moral and spiritual imperative at the end):
http://www.mail-archive.com/osx-nutters@tit-wank.com/msg03022.html
“The kicker, though, were the dozen or so floodlights grandly highlighting several trees and illuminating the driveway entrance of Gore’s mansion.”
Now here’s a man who is deeply concerned about saving the world from global warming.
Not really. That’s just my sarcasm at work.
You see, the truth is, because he is so deeply concerned with saving the world from global warming he was actually keeping a watchful eye on the trees at night. The caring eye of Al Gore was saving the trees.
No wait, that’s my sarcasm working too.
On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place,
If the summer change to winter, yours is no,
Yours is no disgrace.
Yours is no disgrace.
“In fact, most of the windows were lit by the familiar blue-ish hue indicating that floor lamps and ceiling fixtures were off, but TV screens and computer monitors were hard at work.”
This is wrong. That glow in the windows is actually spotlights highlighting Al Gore’s several awards, which he likes to see in that soft light at night. They’re never unseen.
video of Al Gore’s trophy room, scroll down a little at the link to see the video :
http://nerdnirvana.org/2007/11/29/a-visit-with-al-gore-in-gores-trophy-room/
Scroll down a little at the link to see the video.
Some cutting edge science going on here….
hereticfringe said: I beg to differ… Al Gore is a post-modern Elmer Fudd.
That gem of a one liner must surely be a contender for the next Quote of the Week thingy. 😀
I visited the Nobel Museum in Stockholm last year (stop off during Baltic cruise) and was appalled to learn that Al Gore had been fast tracked to the Nobel prize (Peace) that year; most people have to wait 30 years. During the tour the guide and speaker stated that over the years after due consideration, some laureates were considered in retrospect to be unworthy of the prize. I ventured that this would most certainly be the case with Al Gore. At this point my wife stepped in to save me by saying that I was an engineer and did not believe in global warming (AGW).
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that research group in Tennessee, where the former vice president lives, claims that Mr Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville consumes more electricity in a month than the average American household uses in a year.
Disappointing to see this myth recycled, long after its sell-by date. The facts are that The Tennessee Tax Dept. does not consider the “Tennessee Center for Policy Research,” a legitimate group and its only registered address is a P.O. box (is that really a link to facebook above?). Gore’s electricity company had no record of being contacted about his bills. Comparisons with the national ‘average home’, which includes apartments and mobile homes are hardly justified, as the address is also used as an office by both Al and Tipper Gore, and they must also maintain a live-in security staff. Compared with homes in the same area, the Gore house used about three times as much as the average, but on a per square foot basis it was spot on the average. The word was is apposite here because at the time Gore was undertaking extensive improvements…
“Short of tearing it down and staring anew, I don’t know how it could have been rated any higher,” said Kim Shinn of the U.S. Green Building Council, which gave the house its second-highest rating for sustainable design. Gore’s improvements cut the home’s summer electrical consumption by 11 percent compared with a year ago, according to utility records reviewed by The Associated Press. Most Nashville homes used 20 percent to 30 percent more electricity during the same period because of a record heat wave.
Shinn said Gore’s renovations are impressive because his home, which is more than 80 years old, had to meet the same rigorous standards as new construction. … Gore has said the criticism was unfair because the 10,000-square-foot mansion was undergoing extensive remodeling. He said this week that “global warming denier” groups were trying to discredit him because they don’t like the attention he has given to climate change.
“You’re going to have people try to attack the messenger in order to get at the message. They have not been able to succeed,” Gore told CNN from Norway, where he picked up the Nobel Peace Prize for his environmental work. “The only way to solve this crisis is for individuals to make changes in their own lives,” he said.
The Green Building Council’s certification program has four levels, with platinum being the highest followed by gold. Gore’s home was one of 14 to earn gold status and the only Tennessee home to earn any certification.
From those Green fanatics at Fox News.
Morning radio pointed out this morning that on Sat. at 8:48pm, Al Gore’s Nashville mansion was lit up very nicely. Driveway lights on, floodlights were lighting up the trees, all the usual. Seems that Mr. Gore paid little to no attention to “Earth Hour”.
The above link goes to a new YouTube video we made today overseas that talks intelligently, and without an agenda, about climate change and global warming, and goes to the heart of the matter: it’s a virtual graduation speech to the class of 2099 at universities around the world some 90 years from now. Reax both pro and con, welcome, of course.
James Griffin
You are of course correct in your observation that the Media have a duty to the common man to analyse proposals that seek to alter the status quo, and to rigorously research the people advocating such changes and their motives for so doing.
Sadly, here in the UK, the press are fighting declining readership, and a steep fall in advertising revenue compounded by the recession, and are no longer able to accommodate within their pages or editorials, contrarian viewpoints to those of their major contributors.
These are the Government and self serving Quangos such as The Carbon Commission both of which also advertise heavily for their own ends on Commercial Television and in so doing effectively gain control of that medium, thus traducing it’s editorial independence.
This leaves us with the BBC. Set up in the early 20th century by men of great integrity who determined that it’s funding should be independent under the law, and with a Board of Governors beholden to neither Governments nor transient factions, we might expect that for the not inconsiderable imposte of £140 p.a. our common interests would be well served.
Sadly this is not the case. The organisation persues it’s own agenda, and despite it’s best efforts at sublimation, takes a measurably left of centre stance on all issues. In the case of AGW the science is settled and so no contrarian views come to air, as regular readers of this site have discovered.
All people are equal, but some are more equal than others.
It’s amazing that some people can’t muster enough common sense to make the connection between increased solar activity and increased temperatures on ALL planets in our SOLAR system. “Global Warming” (henceforth called “Climate Change” because the Earth has started cooling again) is nothing more than a scam for people, like Algore, who line their pockets by selling carbon offsets. This may come as a surprise to global warming (ooops), I mean climate change alarmists, but the polar ice caps on Mars melt too. Lest global war… climate change alarmists think that migratory Earth pollution is the cause and start a “Save Mars” campaign, after Algore starts selling Martian carbon offsets, please rest assured that changes in the Sun’s climate are responsible. If people like Gore were unable to profit from the hysteria they cause about global warming (dang I just keep forgetting to use the newspeak word for “global warming”) the problem of “climate change” would vanish tomorrow.
This leaves us with the BBC. Set up in the early 20th century by men of great integrity who determined that it’s funding should be independent under the law, and with a Board of Governors beholden to neither Governments nor transient factions, we might expect that for the not inconsiderable imposte of £140 p.a. our common interests would be well served.
Sadly this is not the case. The organisation persues it’s own agenda, and despite it’s best efforts at sublimation, takes a measurably left of centre stance on all issues. In the case of AGW the science is settled and so no contrarian views come to air, as regular readers of this site have discovered.
The BBC is also committing treason. 🙂
http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees
Ever notice how the evangelists and nuncios of a cult eat well, fly in jets, and generally get “passes” for their sins? Or, in the vernacular, as one of my many mental-giant-heroes, Frank Zappa once said, “The lead guitarist always gets the __________” (you fill in the blank… I don’t want to get crude here).
Mr. Gore is exempt from Earth Hour since he is the father of Global Warming. It doesn’t matter if everyone else sees him as a hypocrite, his followers will give him a free pass. Does anyone know he made a D- in Earth Science?
bobzorunkle (16:03:26) : On March 29, 2009, [RealClimate] highlighted an article in EOS, a publication of the American Geophysical Union, about a study of about 10,000 “Earth Scientists on two questions. … The Of the over 10,000 Earth Scientists who were sent the questions, about 30% replied.
You should have just stopped reading at this point. The study authors started off playing a game that John Brignell calls Trojan Numbers. The actual number useful for statistical study is about 3000. Since the quoted study unabashedly tells us that the real number is 70% less than advertised I wouldn’t even trust them about the “3000” which makes the rest of it equivalent to garbage.
FWIW: this puffery appears to be common practice in the soft sciences.
Allan:
“Don’t bother about Al Gore – Al and all this global warming lunacy will soon be just another example of “popular delusions and the madness of crowds”.
I would think twice about this if I were you. Obama is sending a team to the coming IPCC meeting with instructions to fall in line. The only thing that can prevent a disaster is congress; a slim reed indeed.
Earth Hour is a bogus scheme to let people who abuse the environment everyday feel good about themselves and be able to tell people they care about the environment for a day.
http://twobigboobs.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/earth-hour-is-a-bogus-waste-of-time/
Wow…what’s up with Watt.
“I pulled up to Al’s house, located in the posh Belle Meade section of Nashville, at 8:48pm – right in the middle of Earth Hour. I found that the main spotlights that usually illuminate his 9,000 square foot mansion were dark, but several of the lights inside the house were on.”
The big electricity guzzling spotlights were off, but lights inside the house were on. Were those lights incandescent or compact florescents? Surely that stalker could have found out.
“I pulled up to Al’s house, located in the posh Belle Meade section of Nashville, at 8:48pm – right in the middle of Earth Hour. I found that the main spotlights that usually illuminate his 9,000 square foot mansion were dark, but several of the lights inside the house were on.”
Wha? He’s not allowed to do work? Criminy you people are idiots.
“Gore and his wife, Tipper, will keep other homes in Tennessee and Virginia. It was published February 28, 2007 that research group in Tennessee, where the former vice president lives, claims that Mr Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville consumes more electricity in a month than the average American household uses in a year.”
Ah yes, the electricity bill. The electricity bill meme was pushed by a group with strong denier links. Hardly a impartial source.
You putz’s won’t be happy unless he’s living in a cave with only a loin cloth.
REPLY: We’d just be happy if he makes an effort that matches what is expected of others. No complaints then from you about the lack of solar panels on the home or the 3 SUV’s in the driveway? Or, are such complaints reserved only for us “idiots”? Keep smiling friend. – Anthony
John Philip (04:23:25) :
“that research group in Tennessee, where the former vice president lives, claims that Mr Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville consumes more electricity in a month than the average American household uses in a year.”
Not only that, they claim that despite Al’s Gold LEED reno, he STILL uses enough electric to power 232 average American homes for a month! A 10% increase in energy usage since his reno!! Eeek.
“In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.”
More perplexing is Al’s spokesperson Kalee Kreider’s response: “the Gores live in a Gold LEED certified home, powered by geothermal power. They have undergone renovations to put solar panels on the roof and participate in all of the renewable power programs offered by their local utility.”
Two questions: If the house is powered by geothermal – why the PV panels? And if it uses PV and geothermal – why 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) from the grid?
To be fair, Al did say he was going to use the geothermal to heat… his pool. Everyone in!
John Philip (04:23:25) :
“that research group in Tennessee, where the former vice president lives, claims that Mr Gore’s 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville consumes more electricity in a month than the average American household uses in a year.”
Not only that, they claim that despite Al’s Gold LEED reno, he STILL uses enough electric to power 232 average American homes for a month! A 10% increase in energy usage since his reno!! Eeek.
“In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.”
More perplexing is Al’s spokesperson Kalee Kreider’s response: “the Gores live in a Gold LEED certified home, powered by geothermal power. They have undergone renovations to put solar panels on the roof and participate in all of the renewable power programs offered by their local utility.”
Two questions: If the house is powered by geothermal – why the PV panels? And if it uses PV and geothermal – why 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) from the grid?
To be fair, Al did say he was going to use the geothermal to heat… his pool. Everyone in!
So what.
Earth Hour is nothing more than a good idea which has been taken over by over-zealous Greens drunk on a sense of their own oneupmanship. Al Gore has already proved his intentions by trying to change policy: I think we can agree that he’s been doing Good Things too.
I was there at the first Earth Hour, after all, and that one didn’t work either:
http://www.24hourtrading.co.uk/blog/sydney-turns-out-the-lights-for-earth-hour-237/
Doesn’t mean it isn’t worth trying, but I simply fail to see how one mans (remote) house makes the slightest bit of difference. Until, of course, someone makes a point of travelling there hoping for Gore to be misbehaving: what would you have done had there not been one or two (probably automatic) lights left on? Sung his praises? Doesn’t make for quite such an effective blog post, does it.
robscott2007
To the ~snip~, Al Gore is the most recognisable and famous face trying to fight Global Warming. And he’s a Democrat (read Lefty to the ~snip~ here). Therefore they will stop at nothing to tear him down.
Including making mountains out of very small mole hills, and what appears to be stalking.
Well Antony
So nice of you to respond.
“No complaints then from you about the lack of solar panels on the home or the 3 SUV’s in the driveway? Or, are such complaints reserved only for us “idiots”? Keep smiling friend. – Anthony”
Really. How hard is it for you to look for http://www.truthandprogress.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=383
Looks like solar panels there to me…
As for the “SUV’s”…are they his? Didn’t the stalker (or even you), bother to find out?
I didn’t say “idiot”, I said “Denier”. Of course, you just showed the two seem to be synonymous.
REPLY: Nope, wrong again, you wrote: “Criminy you people are idiots.” Sorry but your claim of “I didn’t say “idiot”” is denied. And you may not realize it, but you negate your own arguments. For example, on one hand you call the director of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research a “stalker”, then you criticize for us not looking into the personal records of the SUV’s in the driveway. Silly you. Would it have been better if we used the super-secret Google Earth Technology to view the license plates of those SUV’s and then run a DMV check like they did for Joe the Plumber?
What would you say then?
On the solar panels; can you point out exactly where those solar panels are on the roof in the AP photo in the aerial photos above? Are you certain they aren’t on his other Tennessee home? If you can point them out and we can make a match on the aerial photos I’ll happily make a note of it.
Also I’d appreciate you at least spelling my name correctly it is: A N T H O N Y
What’s your name BTW? – keep smiling friend, Anthony
[snip – you are welcome to try again but lose the name calling]
[snip – you are welcome to try again but lose the vulgar language]
Hi Anthony – I like the blog and love what surface stations is doing trying to keep temp. data honest.
By the same token – does anyone have any photos from Earth Hour showing AlGore’s place all lit up as per the story text? All I’ve see is one or two photos of a gate post and a scam shot on a UK Telegraph blog. Where are the audited shots of these floodlit trees and blue lit windows?
Yes, it’s a big place with some SUV’s in the drive and AGs power bills are silly but lets see the evidence on this Earth Hour thing.
REPLY: There are more pics on the facebook site of the fellow from TN, follow the links. I don’t have a facebook account and don’t want one – Anthony
A few months back I was browsing through the TV channels and came across Fareed Zakaria GPS on CNN. Thought I would give it a try. Who should be on it but Big Al, after his introductory sermon they got to talking about India and the Asia Toxic Cloud that was current then in the media. He said that the Indian people should dump their current means of food cooking and use Solar Ovens in order to fix it. ISTR he then said he was travelling to India to get them on board with such ideas. The programme host just agreed and raised no questions such as the issues of restrictions of only being able to cook during sunlit hours and how did Big Al who must also have adopted such world saving solutions deal with such limitations of use.
I naturally looked for these in the image of his home above and strangely cannot see any signs of such devices. 🙂
[snip – you are welcome to try again but lose the vulgar language] Really!
Nice display of “youthful” [edited for delicate sensibilities Ben] stalking. So he didn’t have every single light turned off? So he’s rich and has a big house? Someone really owned his “posterior” [also edited for delicate sensibilities Ben], didn’t they! Oh that’s right he’s actually done a pretty impressive, although not necessarily meaningful, job of reducing his household’s energy consumption.
As a “believer” I still think that Earth Hour is just a PR stunt. Here it’s being used for the near-daily Al Gore “two minutes’ hate” (who doesn’t love a good Orwellian reference). What’s up with that?
Not this web site’s finest moment. Times two.
REPLY: Not your finest comment. Lighten up there or take a hike.- Anthony
It’s interesting that Al Gore feels he needs to lie about leaving his lights on during Earth Hour: click
The guy who prompted a shaken Al Gore to lie stands by his account: click. These articles are from Tennessee — Gore’s home state. The same home state that Gore couldn’t even win against George W. Bush. See, they know all about Al Gore in Tennessee.
So why is Gore fibbing? Because nobody wants to be outed as a hypocrite. Even Gore’s apologists on WUWT don’t like it.
All of this complaining about Al Gore’s mansion and its wattage sounds like sour grapes to me.
[snip]
Reply: I think the rest was meant as political satire tinged with irony, but really has no place here. ~ charles the moderator
solenadon (13:50:51) :
robscott2007
To the ~snip~, Al Gore is the most recognisable and famous face trying to
fightPromote the Global Warming Scare Campaign to Justify a CAP and Trade scheme that will Enrich himself while not reducing CO2 Emissions – I.e. a Rent Tax on Fossil Fuels Forever and Ever – Amen. And he’s a Democrat (read Lefty to the ~snip~ here). Therefore they willstop at nothinglimit themselves to an honest evaluation of the facts totear him downhelp him find a new and productive line of work.Including making
mountains out of very small mole hillsevery effort to reveal hypocrisy, and what appears to bestalkingsimple observation.There you are solenadon – Now it’s Fixed – Corrections in Bold.
Phil Howerton (11:14:53) :
Allan:
“Don’t bother about Al Gore – Al and all this global warming lunacy will soon be just another example of “popular delusions and the madness of crowds”.
I would think twice about this if I were you. Obama is sending a team to the coming IPCC meeting with instructions to fall in line. The only thing that can prevent a disaster is congress; a slim reed indeed.
*********************
Thanks Phil,
Usually I’m predicting unpleasant outcomes like global cooling, and hoping I’m wrong.
This time, I was more optimistic, and hope I’m right.
Time will tell – I claim no special insight on politics.
This whole global warming sales job (“snow job” seems the wrong term) sounds like the babbling of imbeciles.
I hope and trust that the average American is much more sensible.
Regards, Allan
What I really don’t understand is why sincerely concerned “believers” defend (or deny) Gore’s hypocrisy. They should be angry at him!
Are you sure there are solar panels on Gore’s mansion? Look close: clicky
“Danny Bloom (04:40:17) :
The above link goes to a new YouTube video we made today overseas that talks intelligently, and without an agenda, about climate change and global warming, and goes to the heart of the matter: it’s a virtual graduation speech to the class of 2099 at universities around the world some 90 years from now. Reax both pro and con, welcome, of course.”
Thanks, but no thanks. I’m already over my propaganda limit for today.
Mike
“solenadon (12:00:03) : Ah yes, the electricity bill.”
Many places in Africa dont even have electricity, let alone Gulf Stream jets. We can all see by Al Gore’s life how concerned he is about North Pole ice being gone in “five years”.
Political animals aren’t bothered by hypocrisy—it comes with the territory—huh solenadon.
Fridtjof (18:30:13) :
What I really don’t understand is why sincerely concerned “believers” defend (or deny) Gore’s hypocrisy. They should be angry at him!
The faithful are typically blind to the sins of the Prophet.
Once a Prophet has established his supremacy amongst the Flock of believers, the issue of “noticing the sin” becomes “disloyalty to the Prophet”, and is hence not tolerated.
Self censorship by the faithful enables the Prophet to engage in all manner of acts without repercussion.
This is why cults are often headed by full blown Psychopaths noted for their self obsession and ruthless, clever exploitation of others as a consequence free zone of action is the desired state for a Psychopath. Ref 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy and Ref 2: http://www.dannyhaszard.com/captivehearts.htm
Freeing oneself from a Prophet typically requires deprogramming of the believer and is akin to experiencing the Grief process. Ref: http://www.mentalhealth.asn.au/resources/grief_and_loss.htm
The process begins with Denial, and this denial is exploited by the Prophet to protect himself from loss/disintergration of support within the Flock of Believers.
How easy it is to picture Al Gore in your mind in what this stand-up comedian says starting at the 2:39 point of this video :
Richard Jeni – Political Parties
“Ben Lawson (16:42:32) : So he’s rich and has a big house? ”
please refer to the video i posted in my last comment
“Ben Lawson (16:42:32) : As a “believer” ”
What is it that you believe? that global warming is happening? That Arctic ice will be gone in “five years”.
The earth is in a cooling trend. Warming stopped in 1998. And there is an easily discernible and verifiable cooling trend in the earth since 2004.
Are you a “denier” of this cooling that, incidentally, was never predicted by Al Gore? In fact, he is STILL pushing that “five year” thing. Obviously he is a denier of reality too.
Al Gore is my shepherd
He is only aware of what he wants
He makes me lie down on park benches outside his mansion
He leads me beside the polluted water of his strip mine
He guides me in the path of Kyoto for his legacy sake
He restores my doubt in brain dead politicians
His jet emits only holy co2 (all other is sinful, so feel guilty)
His carbon credit eyeth my wallet
His excise maketh pockets light
His consequentiality is pretend
His movie makes children sleepless
Yea, though I walk dark in my house his 3 are comfortable lit
Surely his neurosis for power will follow me all the days of my life
And I will see votes held to the light on Thanksgiving forever
Graeme Rodaughan (18:14:44) :
To the ~snip~, Al Gore is the most recognisable and famous face trying to fight Promote the Global Warming
“Promote the Global Warming Scare Campaign to Justify a CAP and Trade scheme that will Enrich himself while not reducing CO2 Emissions – I.e. a Rent Tax on Fossil Fuels Forever and Ever – Amen.”
Really now. And and your proof is? How is he enriching himself. Please state this with PROOF and evidence.
Therefore they will stop at nothing “limit themselves to an honest evaluation of the facts”
Wow. Are the same facts that claim the average Temp. increase is caused by solar forcing…from a sun whose activity has been decreasing?
Are these the same facts that claim that increased CO2 doesn’t cause higher temperatures, while at the same time pointing out higher CO2 levels and temperatures in the past (at the same time)?
Are these the same facts that dispute the thinning of permanent Arctic ocean ice by posting pictures of badly placed Stevenson Screens?
“help him find a new and productive line of work. ”
He has one.
Including making mountains out of very small mole hills “every effort to reveal hypocrisy”,
Hypocrisy? Really.
and what appears to be stalking “simple observation”.
That have yet to be borne out. No actual pictures offered. Counter examples ignored or snipped here.
Hypocrisy is not Gore’s here.
Look in the Mirror Graeme.
REPLY: OK, I’m done with you and the “stalking” BS, off to the troll bin you go.
And this is probably the most misinformed and erroneous statement ever posted on this blog:
I can’t even begin to describe how absurd your premise is. Nor do I have the patience to do so We have over a thousand comments a day, and yours demand far more attention due to their trolling nature.
I really don’t have the time to deal with all the work your posts require, nor do I care what you think about snipping when you come in calling people “idiots” and then don’t have the courtesy to recognize that fact when placed in front of you with your own words nor to apologize. You are done here, as you have demonstrated nothing except vitriol and distortion. Go troll some other blog under the cloak of anonymity. – Anthony
Anthony:
REPLY: …On the solar panels; can you point out exactly where those solar panels are on the roof in the AP photo in the aerial photos above? Are you certain they aren’t on his other Tennessee home? If you can point them out and we can make a match on the aerial photos I’ll happily make a note of it.
No, I cannot see either any solar panel on the roof. There isn’t any solar panel on the roof of this house. Perhaps they are subterranean solar panels? Heh! 🙂
Sean Hannity mentioned Al Gores activity during the Earth Hour during his show on Monday, March 30
An audio clip of it….
http://penoflight.com/climatebuzz/Misc/HGEarthDay.wma
Nasif Nahle (20:59:55) :
Anthony:
REPLY: …On the solar panels; can you point out exactly where those solar panels are on the roof in the AP photo in the aerial photos above? Are you certain they aren’t on his other Tennessee home? If you can point them out and we can make a match on the aerial photos I’ll happily make a note of it.
“No, I cannot see either any solar panel on the roof. There isn’t any solar panel on the roof of this house. Perhaps they are subterranean solar panels? Heh! :)”
Or perhaps the satellite views are several years old.
Smokey (17:23:16) :
“It’s interesting that Al Gore feels he needs to lie about leaving his lights on during Earth Hour:”
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/03/30/gq-drew-stands-by-his-story-that-gores-house-was-lit-during-earth-hour/
Where’s the evidence he lied? Those pics are a joke, with no time stamp on them, and none of the house. Perhaps there were a few low voltage landscape lights left on around the front gate, would that mean he lied?
“The Gores honored Earth Hour by shutting off the lights at their residence.”
Photo of solar panels on Gore’s house. Notice the chimney and roof pitches to compare to the satellite views. It appears he had these installed early 2007.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0drHbJSg6N2wk
http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/16/gore-greens-his-tennessee-home/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003741885_gorehouse10.html
REPLY: Thanks for finding the pictures. I count 34 panels and they look to be 200 watt panels. So at 200 watts x 34 it looks like about 6 .8 kilowatts there. If they are 250 watts due to higher efficiency, then that would be 8500 watts of capacity at full sun. My own system I installed on my own home in 2005 was rated at 10KW, and my home is about 1/4 the size of the Gore residence, and it didn’t cover my power bill (mostly due to the well pump) so I would have to assume this solar array makes only a small dent in the total energy use there. Since the home was purchased in 2002, I wonder why he waited so long? Response to criticism perhaps? – Anthony
Anthony, it seems he had some problem with permitting the panels. The house itself is claimed to have had extensive remodeling/renovation. I don’t know all that has been done, but these things can take some time. He bought the house apparently in 2002, but did he use the house immediately, or start remodeling immediately? He’s added other features as well, from what I hear, such as solar fans, geothermal system and rainwater catchment. I doubt the reason for installing the panels was in response to criticism, since there is news from around a year before Johnson complained about the electric bill, of Gore having difficulty getting permission to put them on the roof. Also, it is possible that the panels in the pics may have been all that the city or HOA would allow Gore to install. The house has received a high rating by the USGBC, and the claim is that his bill for both electric and gas is now much lower.
Followup on my last post,
“Gore bought his multimillion dollar home in 2002 in Belle Meade, an exclusive city encircled by metropolitan Nashville, and he has embarked on an ambitious renovation. But his contractors ran into a legal barrier last summer when they sought to apply for a permit to install solar panels on the roof.”
“A conservative group that disputes the findings about global warming criticized Gore last month, complaining that his home uses too much electricity.”
“New rules on April 1 will allow homeowners to install solar panels on their roofs. But there’s a caveat: “Solar panels may be installed upon the roof of a building so long as they are not visible from the street or from any adjoining property,” according to the ordinance.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259938,00.html
slowtofollow (16:31:42)
REPLY: There are more pics on the facebook site of the fellow from TN, follow the links. I don’t have a facebook account and don’t want one – Anthony
Yes – this is what is claimed. Like you I’m not a facebooker so can’t verify this. Have you? Has anyone? By now I’d have thought they’d have made it off facebook if they were on any consequence?
A Response to solenadon (20:22:01) :
[1] Al Gore Enriches himself.
“In other words, he ‘buys’ his ‘carbon offsets’ from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself,” Hobbs writes. “To be blunt, Gore doesn’t buy ‘carbon offsets’ through Generation Investment Management – he buys stocks.”
Ref 1: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54528
Ref 2: http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=258075474834657
[2] Regarding the facts of AGW. Suggest more extensive reading on your part of
http://www.climateaudit.org/ and
of course http://wattsupwiththat.com/
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/
http://climatesci.org/
Could we call it a violence footprint? I don’t care about the carbon–Mother Earth will handle that. I care about the violence. Mother Earth will handle that too, in Her Own fashion, if the humans can’t learn to fight with words better.
Glenn (21:35:49) :
Read the article. As a matter of fact, the pictures did have time stamps on them.
Smokey (16:34:49) :
Glenn (21:35:49) :
Those pics are a joke, with no time stamp on them…
“Read the article. As a matter of fact, the pictures did have time stamps on them.”
The pics that come with the article are a joke, with no time stamp on them. There’s nothing in the article supporting the claim.
“The kicker, though, were the dozen or so floodlights grandly highlighting several trees and illuminating the driveway entrance of Gore’s mansion.”
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/03/29/al-gore-will-leave-the-lights-on-for-ya/
The real kicker is that the pictures on this website do not reflect “grand” highlighting of trees or the driveway entrance. A “time stamp” on a picture isn’t evidence of when the pic was taken, either, only of the time the photographer decided to put on the pic. And in light of the way Johnson makes these accusations and only claims to have time-stamped pics, I wouldn’t trust him not to change a time stamp on a pic, if he even has pictures of that evening. A good way of timestamping is to place a newspaper in the photos, not behind some inaccessible Facebook page.
This is bad publicity for ~snip~ and good for Gore’s.
Glenn,
See, now you’re changing your story — just like I knew you would.
You complained that the pictures had “no time stamp on them.” <— [Those were your words.]
But the article makes it clear that there were, in fact, time stamps on the photos: The article states:
Quit digging that hole deeper, Mr. Glenn. Your HE-RO is a washed up scamster.
Find a better hero.
Smokey (18:35:54) :
“Glenn,
“See, now you’re changing your story — just like I knew you would.”
Evidence? What was my original story and what was my changed story, so that we may compare?
“You complained that the pictures had “no time stamp on them.” <— [Those were your words.]”
Well of course. But unless I had at some point “complained” that they had timestamps on them, you have failed to support your claim that my “story has changed”.
“But the article makes it clear that there were, in fact, time stamps on the photos: The article states:”
A claim isn’t evidence. And the fact that the claim was made doesn’t support your contention that my “story changed”. The article does not make it clear that there “were” timestamps on any photos, or on the photos specifically on the website. You quoted the relevant passage yourself; “I *have* timestamped pictures”. But that doesn’t mean he was referring to the photos on the website (they are undoubtedly *not* timestamped). You let me know if you see a timestamp on these pics:
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/goreearthhour.jpg
“I have time-stamped pictures of the floodlights illuminating Al Gore’s driveway entrance and several trees between 8:40-9:00pm during “Earth Hour,” which is certainly an inconvenient truth for Mr. Gore.”
What is inconvenient here is Johnson not supplying evidence that his pictures were taken when he claims they were. He supplies no pictures of the house, or entranceway and only a few pictures of dimly lit address number on a fence and a tree, which actually contradicts his claim of “grand”
lighting.
Quit digging that hole deeper, Mr. Glenn. Your HE-RO is a washed up scamster.
Find a better hero.”
Johnson may have “timestamped photos”, but the *fact* is that the ones on his website are not.
You are taking his word that he has timestamped photos and claiming that he does as a “matter of fact” have such photos. You couldn’t dig a hole any deeper than that for yourself, IMO.
Excuse me if I don’t bow before your amazing logic, Gore is not my hero, I haven’t changed my story and you haven’t shown that I have.
You haven’t taken many pictures at night, have you?
Fridtjof (18:30:13) :
What I really don’t understand is why sincerely concerned “believers” defend (or deny) Gore’s hypocrisy. They should be angry at him!
Yeah, they should be angry at him, but then they wouldn’t be “believers”. They call everyone else “deniers” because they think that everyone thinks like them, as either a “believer” or “denier” – same difference = none. Pretty strange, and we are not going to be able to crack that nut – the “believers” thinking that the “deniers” are just like them, only “wrong”, “evil”, or whatever. “Believers” simply cannot understand science.
AnonyMoose (10:11:37) :
Glenn:
He supplies no pictures of the house, or entranceway and only a few pictures of dimly lit address number on a fence and a tree, which actually contradicts his claim of “grand” lighting.
“You haven’t taken many pictures at night, have you?”
Actually I have, and with more than a cellphone camera. Shouldn’t you be asking that of Johnson? Have you ever taken pictures at night of an object that is illuminated by *floodlights*?
Provide a url to the pics he claims to have of “floodlights illuminating Al Gore’s driveway entrance and several trees.” ON Johnsons site all I see is an address number on a fence and what might be construed as one or two trees close together (in any event, not “several”) probably lit by low volt landscape lights.
Oh, c’mon, Glenn! If you can’t see that Gore was publicly owned by forgetting to turn off his lights for Earth Hour, you’re in need of a little friendly deprogramming.
Check out Graeme Rodaughan @19:10:50:
Go ahead, read the rest. It’ll do you some good.
And sorry I was disloyal to the Prophet. Please convey my remorse to the Anointed One. If you like, I’ll admit that you’ve convinced me I was wrong by your deft questioning of the statement of a no good, lying photographer you’ve never met.
In fact, I concede that maybe Mr. Gore really did turn his lights out, and this is all a big misunderstanding. Someone who made the internet possible would never, ever forget to turn out the lights, would he? Well, would he?! Never.
So of course Al Gore turned his lights out for the sacred Earth Hour. He probably did it five minutes early.
Like Glenn I haven’t seen anything to back up the written claims made over the lights at Al Gore’s place. If anybody has, please could you supply a link or statement confirming it? The author of the original story apparently had a camera with him so if the floodlights were visible to the naked eye then even a point and shoot should have caught them. Go out tonight and photo your street lights – try flash on/off etc etc.
It’s good to see the update showing the PVs on the roof and I’d suggest it is unlikely that PV would be used for pool heating. Also check the time of year of the satellite shots – the trees are bare and it looks as if, in contrast to some neighbouring properties, the pool has a winterizing cover on it.
Isn’t the whole point of WUWT and Surface Stations one of questioning and validation of data to improve the standard of debate? I’m not a Gore fan or a pro AGW -I like the Surface Stations project as it clearly improves the understanding of some of the data used in the “climate” debate. I’d think checking out and verifying a story like the lead post would be in the same spirit.