http://www.vof.se/visa-forvillare1995

The text is unfourtunatly in swedish.

That doesn’t mean that he can’t be right on this particular issue, but since he’s been known to ignore scientific methodology before, I wouldn’t count on it.

Tuvalu is a group of low-lying islands in the Pacific. The AGW crowd sometimes include Tuvalu in the list of islands threatened by sea level rise. Dr Morner mentions the fact that pineapple plantations on the main island sucked out ground-water, which was replaced by sea-water. But there’s more to it than that.

A few years ago an American TV company bought the right to use Tuvalu’s internet suffix (.tv). They paid $40 million for it. The islanders did what poor people often do when coming into a fortune – they spent it on things they had seen rich people using. Cars, trucks, domestic appliances…. and they built a road all round the main island. They built substantial two-storey houses.

Where did they get the sand for the cement for these houses? From the beaches. Where did they get the hardcore for the road? From the reefs. What would be the effect of cars and trucks thundering round a delicate coral island? You know the answer. A classic case of people unwittingly destroying their own habitat. As mentioned above, Tuvalu is desperately overcrowded (like the Maldives), and the Tuvalu govt thought of a plan: sue the US Government (as the world’s main polluters) for raising sea levels for huge sums of money, and ask countries like New Zealand and Papua New Guinea to take some of their people. The sea-level argument was laughed out of court – as any reader of the previous postings knows, there has been no appreciable sea-level rise in modern times.

There was a programme on BBC about Tuvalu a few years ago. The presenter tried repeatedly to persuade Yuvalu islanders to say they wanted to go away because of the sea level rise, and tried to persuade them to claim that they had seen sea levels rise. Eventually one old chap pointed to an uninhabited rock and said he thought it had been higher out of the water 30 years earlier. That was all the evidence put forward. The presenter showed us the roads, the new buildings, the cars and trucks, but not once did it occur to him to make a link between these things and the sea water problems Tuvalu was facing.

There are similar stories with all the so-called disappearing islands – the Fairfaxes, Carterets, Sunderbans etc. The AGW people are aching for some of these islands to disappear, ut they all remain stubbornly above water.

As can be seen in the picture, the Maldives are essentially completely flat atolls. Therefore, even a couple of inches of sea level rise would flood half the islands’ surface.

That is visual proof that any increase in the sea level is extremely minimal. Any increase is also very slow; there is enough time for the coral to build up, keeping up with any small, slow increase in the sea level.

You don’t need a tide gauge to see that this is another nail in the coffin of the dead AGW/CO2 hypothesis conjecture.

Cheers!

Cheers

They have a prominent graph on that page titled “Average Northern Hemisphere temperature trend (- 20-year filter; — 100-year filter) during the past 350 years, showing a pronounced 20th-century warming.”

The change in temperature anomaly for the 20th century is purportedly about +2.7 degrees C. The graph is unattributed. Does anyone know the source of this graph?

Do you know happen to know why the University of Colorado has not updated its site http://sealevel.colorado.edu/ in nearly three months now?

Since the data at the site now seems to suggest deceleration in sea level rise, my cynical streak is whispering “are they are withholding data that contradicts their politics?”

There is nothing wrong with attacking a person if that is the fault but if the data is the thing that is wrong attack that. In the Morner case the data is ignored and the person attacked.

Morner does not show modern processing results.

As a result of an item mentioned by Morner I cross checked. He is accurate.

LOD (length of earth day) data is freely available, if preprocessed. For example
http://www.iers.org/products/177/11221/output//30951/eopc04_IAU2000.62-now.txt

Looks like this
http://www.iers.org/plots/FinalsAllIAU2000A-LOD-BULA.png

Here is a plot where I have processed for good time localisation of this event, which tends to play down the magnitude of the event. (above plot shows this event once you know where to look)

The 1982/1983 El Nino shook the earth, has a very strong signal in the rate of spin of the Earth.

http://www.gpsl.net/climate/data/earth-lod-el-nino.png

The 1982/83 El Nino has been described as the largest of the century. If you search you should be able to find animations of the temperature anomaly and will find that as Morner says, including tide gauge data, as it interacts with the land mass of the America energy is transferred between the mass of the ocean and solid earth.

I note papers (post Morner) trying to explain this effect as a wind on the Andies or whatever. Sorry folks, air is low mass. These get accepted as peer reviewed when are in the face of earlier work?

That destroys peer review as a rational process. These people are in different fields of science, hence peer review fails.

Morner also says rather forcefully that change in sea level if it was true would have a very clear effect on LOD and is not there. If anyone wants to estimate this, the water mass has to come from the poles, mainly Antarctica and Greenland, therefore there is a mass transfer from the polar regions where mass has little effect to the middle of a sphere where it has most effect.

It should be possible to calulate a LOD signal based on supposed historic sea level change. That signal must then be present in the measured LOD, and if not it suggests falsification of the sea level record.

Take the claimed satellite sea level trend, if it does not match…

I guess this has long been done but there is silence.

Newton was an alchemist and predicted the end of the world using Biblical references. He also regarded this as his most important life’s work. IIRC, he also dabbled in astrology.

(He was also a crank and a crackpot.)

So I guess, y’all will be rejecting that calculus garbage and that ridiculous physics claptrap which denies Aristotle and all contemporary consensus . . .

I have been waiting for a followup on this for years.

In a sense, the original article, NOT in a reputable journal, led me into a more intense examination of climate. That led me to stumble on this site back around June 2007 . . .

George E. Smith (09:52:25) :

Well my World Atlas places the Maldives to the South West of India; pretty much straight south from Bombay. Thjat is not what I would call south West of Sri Lanka or Ceylon if you will.

Wow!

I know we don’t cite wiki as reliable but ……

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maldives

The Maldives ( /ˈmɒldaɪvz/ (help·info) or /ˈmɒldiːvz/), (Dhivehi: ދިވެހިރާއްޖެ) or Maldive Islands, officially the Republic of Maldives, is an island nation consisting of a group of atolls stretching south of India’s Lakshadweep islands between Minicoy Island and the Chagos Archipelago, and about seven hundred kilometres (435 mi) south-west of Sri Lanka in the Laccadive Sea of Indian Ocean. The twenty-six atolls of Maldives encompass a territory featuring 1,192 islets, of which two hundred and fifty islands are inhabited.[3]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/LocationMaldives.png “”"

Well I don’t just make stuff up; wikki sometimes does.

But on a Rand McNalley world map, the Maldives are shown directly south of Bombay which is on the WEST coast of India, and also directly south of the Lakshadweeo Islands which are also off the west coast of India, and they stretch both north and south of the latitude of the tip of India.

Sri Lanka (Ceylon) on the other hand is off the EAST coast of India; and directly south of Madras. The Maldies are twice as far from the WEST coast of India, as Sri Lanka is off the EAST coast of India.

Your map link clearly shows that.

So Cabo San Lucas in Baja Mexico is south west of the Florida Keys; Right ? Of course it is; there’s just that minor point of the United Sates, and Mexico being in between; like India is in between the Maldives, and Sri Lanka.

(I am not sure if this was directed to me, or Retired BChE)

“Visiting Iceland where thermal energy is used everywhere I have noticed a very negative aspect of this “clean” energy”.

I guess it’s expensive to take noise reduction measures, otherwise they would have made the effort.”

Thermal power plants have the noise problem, but it can be abated with proper design and material selection. The noise arises when high-velocity steam whizzes through small openings. Control valves that are sized wrong also can make tremendous noise. Sometimes the noise increases when the entire plant is operated below capacity, because the control valves close a bit and the internal opening is smaller. Sound absorbing walls can be installed to abate noise down to low levels. Also, thermal insulation not only reduces heat losses, but absorbs and reduces noise.