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		<title>By: Roger Sowell</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/07/lake-superior-is-freezing-over/#comment-97026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Sowell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pamela the Poet:

I laughed my Irish ... off on that one!  

(may the sun shine....ok, forget sun shine...)

I want to blatantly steal this to amuse the crowd on St. Paddy&#039;s Day. -- with proper attribution, of course...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela the Poet:</p>
<p>I laughed my Irish &#8230; off on that one!  </p>
<p>(may the sun shine&#8230;.ok, forget sun shine&#8230;)</p>
<p>I want to blatantly steal this to amuse the crowd on St. Paddy&#8217;s Day. &#8212; with proper attribution, of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: savethesharks</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/07/lake-superior-is-freezing-over/#comment-96996</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pamela the Poet wrote:

&quot;AGW Irish Wish

May the seas fall to leave you high and dry.
May the wind always blow up your skirt and chill your cheeks.
May sun shine…okay, forget sun shine…
the snow fall soft into your dread locks,
and until we meet again
may Gaiai (or whatever the hell her name is) hold your feet to the icecube for mocking her.&quot;

HA HA HA HA I WAS IN MY OFFICE READING THIS AND I LAUGHED OUT LOUD.   

BUSTED! 

Surfing the net during work...but i needed that.  Thanks Pamela.

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela the Poet wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;AGW Irish Wish</p>
<p>May the seas fall to leave you high and dry.<br />
May the wind always blow up your skirt and chill your cheeks.<br />
May sun shine…okay, forget sun shine…<br />
the snow fall soft into your dread locks,<br />
and until we meet again<br />
may Gaiai (or whatever the hell her name is) hold your feet to the icecube for mocking her.&#8221;</p>
<p>HA HA HA HA I WAS IN MY OFFICE READING THIS AND I LAUGHED OUT LOUD.   </p>
<p>BUSTED! </p>
<p>Surfing the net during work&#8230;but i needed that.  Thanks Pamela.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: savethesharks</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/07/lake-superior-is-freezing-over/#comment-96628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethesharks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May Old Man Winter not be such a perv when he blows you ladies skirts up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May Old Man Winter not be such a perv when he blows you ladies skirts up!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/07/lake-superior-is-freezing-over/#comment-96620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AGW Irish Wish

May the seas fall to leave you high and dry.
May the wind always blow up your skirt and chill your cheeks.
May sun shine...okay, forget sun shine...
the snow fall soft into your dread locks,
and until we meet again
may Gaiai (or whatever the hell her name is) hold your feet to the icecube for mocking her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGW Irish Wish</p>
<p>May the seas fall to leave you high and dry.<br />
May the wind always blow up your skirt and chill your cheeks.<br />
May sun shine&#8230;okay, forget sun shine&#8230;<br />
the snow fall soft into your dread locks,<br />
and until we meet again<br />
may Gaiai (or whatever the hell her name is) hold your feet to the icecube for mocking her.</p>
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		<title>By: savethesharks</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/07/lake-superior-is-freezing-over/#comment-96619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethesharks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sort of....a  Marilyn Monroe type of skirt-blow-up, there, Pamela??

Well enjoy it.   I wish that Irish Blessing had something to say about the &quot;snow&quot; falling soft on the fields.

(Maybe we should make it a Norwegian Blessing)

The pic currently on Spaceweather.com from your neck of the woods in the good ole&#039; PAC NW with the snowflakes with Venus visible in the background....is spectacular.

Well Mother Superior is about to get rocked by a blizzard.   Will probably wrinkle her icy coat no doubt...or maybe enhance it.

Minimum temps near or below zero night after next...

Do women in Duluth wear skirts this time of year??  Just asking.

Chris
Norfolk, VA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of&#8230;.a  Marilyn Monroe type of skirt-blow-up, there, Pamela??</p>
<p>Well enjoy it.   I wish that Irish Blessing had something to say about the &#8220;snow&#8221; falling soft on the fields.</p>
<p>(Maybe we should make it a Norwegian Blessing)</p>
<p>The pic currently on Spaceweather.com from your neck of the woods in the good ole&#8217; PAC NW with the snowflakes with Venus visible in the background&#8230;.is spectacular.</p>
<p>Well Mother Superior is about to get rocked by a blizzard.   Will probably wrinkle her icy coat no doubt&#8230;or maybe enhance it.</p>
<p>Minimum temps near or below zero night after next&#8230;</p>
<p>Do women in Duluth wear skirts this time of year??  Just asking.</p>
<p>Chris<br />
Norfolk, VA</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cold temperature records are being set for yesterday and today from the Spokane, Washington area to Redmond, Oregon.  The Jet stream loop down into the western part of the US is the reason.  This loop draws both winds and cold temps from the Arctic right into our homes and blew up my skirt today!

May the road rise to meet you.
May the wind always be at your back.
May sun shine warm upon your face,
the rain fall soft upon your fields,
and until we meet again
may God hold you in the hollow of His hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cold temperature records are being set for yesterday and today from the Spokane, Washington area to Redmond, Oregon.  The Jet stream loop down into the western part of the US is the reason.  This loop draws both winds and cold temps from the Arctic right into our homes and blew up my skirt today!</p>
<p>May the road rise to meet you.<br />
May the wind always be at your back.<br />
May sun shine warm upon your face,<br />
the rain fall soft upon your fields,<br />
and until we meet again<br />
may God hold you in the hollow of His hand.</p>
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		<title>By: savethesharks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethesharks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha.....   

Or just let him wander off in the woods.   He will get lost like he did when he was VP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230;..   </p>
<p>Or just let him wander off in the woods.   He will get lost like he did when he was VP.</p>
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		<title>By: andycanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andycanuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you catch Al Gore? 
Sneak up behind him and kick him in the ice hole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you catch Al Gore?<br />
Sneak up behind him and kick him in the ice hole.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyB</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/07/lake-superior-is-freezing-over/#comment-96383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[johnofmirecourt

Sorry, when you threw those thousands of references in the air I hadn&#039;t noticed you had already invited me to catch three of them. 

I will have a look through-it&#039;ll be nice reading these old chestnuts again and will post a reply. I&#039;m fairly tied up for a few days so will probably need to catch up with you on a new and relevant thread in due course, as you will see its a bit like a party here, where everyone crowds into a room to look at something then when a new attraction opens next door they all rush over  there leaving the first room empty. Then the door shuts on it :)

If I see you posting I will give a reply, if you see me posting you can give me a reminder but give me till the weekend.

Best regards

Tonyb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnofmirecourt</p>
<p>Sorry, when you threw those thousands of references in the air I hadn&#8217;t noticed you had already invited me to catch three of them. </p>
<p>I will have a look through-it&#8217;ll be nice reading these old chestnuts again and will post a reply. I&#8217;m fairly tied up for a few days so will probably need to catch up with you on a new and relevant thread in due course, as you will see its a bit like a party here, where everyone crowds into a room to look at something then when a new attraction opens next door they all rush over  there leaving the first room empty. Then the door shuts on it :)</p>
<p>If I see you posting I will give a reply, if you see me posting you can give me a reminder but give me till the weekend.</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Tonyb</p>
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		<title>By: TonyB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Johnofmirecourt (06:59:20) : said in reply to me 

‘conclusively’ ? ‘dissect’ ? 

&quot;I’ll let you pick, but I’d posit that far better minds than ours have already gone through the arguments. If you want to discuss individual studies, the journal in question would be the venue; if you want to disprove the basics, well:
# This is a list of every skeptic argument encountered online as well as how often each argument is used. http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

# How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

# Climate change: A guide for the perplexed http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462

# Anti-global heating claims - a reasonably thorough debunking http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/

# Responses to common contrarian arguments http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses


With respect, you are doing it again John, throwing thousands of things in the air and hoping some of them will stick. Weve all seen the &#039;how to talk to a dimwitted climate sceptic&#039; web site and countered them.

Please take three individual proofs of global warming on the scale being suggested-you choose-  so we can put them through the provable hypotheses test. 

Thank you

TonyB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnofmirecourt (06:59:20) : said in reply to me </p>
<p>‘conclusively’ ? ‘dissect’ ? </p>
<p>&#8220;I’ll let you pick, but I’d posit that far better minds than ours have already gone through the arguments. If you want to discuss individual studies, the journal in question would be the venue; if you want to disprove the basics, well:<br />
# This is a list of every skeptic argument encountered online as well as how often each argument is used. <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php</a></p>
<p># How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics</a></p>
<p># Climate change: A guide for the perplexed <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462</a></p>
<p># Anti-global heating claims &#8211; a reasonably thorough debunking <a href="http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/" rel="nofollow">http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/</a></p>
<p># Responses to common contrarian arguments <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses</a></p>
<p>With respect, you are doing it again John, throwing thousands of things in the air and hoping some of them will stick. Weve all seen the &#8216;how to talk to a dimwitted climate sceptic&#8217; web site and countered them.</p>
<p>Please take three individual proofs of global warming on the scale being suggested-you choose-  so we can put them through the provable hypotheses test. </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>TonyB</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas LaBelle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas LaBelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here in Thunder Bay, on the north shore of the big lake, it&#039;s been a cold winter that started early. And what else is new? I don&#039;t know anything about global warming, man made or otherwise, but we could sure use some if it&#039;s out there. Carbon? Heck, if burning a tire in my back yard could get us some measurable warming, I&#039;d do so on a daily basis. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Thunder Bay, on the north shore of the big lake, it&#8217;s been a cold winter that started early. And what else is new? I don&#8217;t know anything about global warming, man made or otherwise, but we could sure use some if it&#8217;s out there. Carbon? Heck, if burning a tire in my back yard could get us some measurable warming, I&#8217;d do so on a daily basis. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Johnofmirecourt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnofmirecourt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;conclusively&#039; ?  &#039;dissect&#039; ? 

I&#039;ll let you pick, but I&#039;d posit that far better minds than ours have already gone through the arguments. If you want to discuss individual studies, the journal in question would be the venue; if you want to disprove the basics, well:

# This is a list of every skeptic argument encountered online as well as how often each argument is used. http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

# How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

# Climate change: A guide for the perplexed http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462

# Anti-global heating claims - a reasonably thorough debunking http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/

# Responses to common contrarian arguments http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;conclusively&#8217; ?  &#8216;dissect&#8217; ? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let you pick, but I&#8217;d posit that far better minds than ours have already gone through the arguments. If you want to discuss individual studies, the journal in question would be the venue; if you want to disprove the basics, well:</p>
<p># This is a list of every skeptic argument encountered online as well as how often each argument is used. <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php</a></p>
<p># How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics</a></p>
<p># Climate change: A guide for the perplexed <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462</a></p>
<p># Anti-global heating claims &#8211; a reasonably thorough debunking <a href="http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/" rel="nofollow">http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/</a></p>
<p># Responses to common contrarian arguments <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses</a></p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Mike McMillan (09:43:20) : Remind me, since GIStemp is missing from the Glossary, what it does. Is it the homogenizer, the maker-up of missing data, or something else?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.

Oh, more?  This is Hansen&#039;s imaginary friend that tells him ghost stories:

In the early steps, it deletes some data (older than 1880) and then it makes up some data (in-fill missing by guessing...) then it changes some pseudo randomly (via &quot;the reference station method&quot;) then it deletes some more, then it homogenizes (I think that was about STEP2, the 4th or so step... gives you an idea right there...) after which it interpolates some more data, then does some more &quot;reference station method&quot; but this time on &quot;anomalies&quot; and in the final round does some more interpolation (based on other interpolations and &quot;simulations&quot; based on polar ice data - maybe from our broken satellite?) and then comes back for one final round of interpolation / reference station method anomaly homogenization.  The result is the Global Anomaly Map that makes AGW believers pee themselves in fear.

That is a fairly accurate list of steps (well, up to the &#039;pee&#039; part; that only holds for a very few...).  See:
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/gistemp-start_here/
if you want more including source code listings...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mike McMillan (09:43:20) : Remind me, since GIStemp is missing from the Glossary, what it does. Is it the homogenizer, the maker-up of missing data, or something else?</i></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Oh, more?  This is Hansen&#8217;s imaginary friend that tells him ghost stories:</p>
<p>In the early steps, it deletes some data (older than 1880) and then it makes up some data (in-fill missing by guessing&#8230;) then it changes some pseudo randomly (via &#8220;the reference station method&#8221;) then it deletes some more, then it homogenizes (I think that was about STEP2, the 4th or so step&#8230; gives you an idea right there&#8230;) after which it interpolates some more data, then does some more &#8220;reference station method&#8221; but this time on &#8220;anomalies&#8221; and in the final round does some more interpolation (based on other interpolations and &#8220;simulations&#8221; based on polar ice data &#8211; maybe from our broken satellite?) and then comes back for one final round of interpolation / reference station method anomaly homogenization.  The result is the Global Anomaly Map that makes AGW believers pee themselves in fear.</p>
<p>That is a fairly accurate list of steps (well, up to the &#8216;pee&#8217; part; that only holds for a very few&#8230;).  See:<br />
<a href="http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/gistemp-start_here/" rel="nofollow">http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/gistemp-start_here/</a><br />
if you want more including source code listings&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like Cryosphere Today is down...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Cryosphere Today is down&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TonyB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[johnofmirecourt (08:08:58) : said; 

“Why is using short term weather as gloating /dreaming / wishing / against all evidence commenting such a popular meme for denying there are effects happening from man’s increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere?”

To which I replied;

&quot;Please confirm what this evidence is, and let’s stick to the legal term of that word i.e. ‘facts’. Theoretical models from Computers that even the IPCC say are flawed are inadmissable, wishing something is true is inadmissable, saying something is true lots of times is inadmissable, believing something is true just because someone with letters after their name has told you that is inadmissable.

Please provide me with three FACTS that back up what you say.&quot;

Johnofmirecourt (great name) replied 

&quot;Providing you with far more than three:

* IPCC http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/
* IPCC-FAQ: http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faqIndex.html
* EPA-Basic Info http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basicinfo.html
* EDF-Basic Science http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/01/09/basic_science/
* The Discovery of Global Warming http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html&quot;

John, there are an awful lot of generalities here. Can you give me just three items that conclusively prove disastrous man made climate change so we can dissect them here and apply the scientific rule of testable hypothesis?

Thank you for your time 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnofmirecourt (08:08:58) : said; </p>
<p>“Why is using short term weather as gloating /dreaming / wishing / against all evidence commenting such a popular meme for denying there are effects happening from man’s increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere?”</p>
<p>To which I replied;</p>
<p>&#8220;Please confirm what this evidence is, and let’s stick to the legal term of that word i.e. ‘facts’. Theoretical models from Computers that even the IPCC say are flawed are inadmissable, wishing something is true is inadmissable, saying something is true lots of times is inadmissable, believing something is true just because someone with letters after their name has told you that is inadmissable.</p>
<p>Please provide me with three FACTS that back up what you say.&#8221;</p>
<p>Johnofmirecourt (great name) replied </p>
<p>&#8220;Providing you with far more than three:</p>
<p>* IPCC <a href="http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/</a><br />
* IPCC-FAQ: <a href="http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faqIndex.html" rel="nofollow">http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faqIndex.html</a><br />
* EPA-Basic Info <a href="http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basicinfo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basicinfo.html</a><br />
* EDF-Basic Science <a href="http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/01/09/basic_science/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/01/09/basic_science/</a><br />
* The Discovery of Global Warming <a href="http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>John, there are an awful lot of generalities here. Can you give me just three items that conclusively prove disastrous man made climate change so we can dissect them here and apply the scientific rule of testable hypothesis?</p>
<p>Thank you for your time </p>
<p>TonyB</p>
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