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The so-called “theories” of global warming you evidently admire are NOT correct, the proposed draconian “solutions” demanded by the AGW extremists only serve to advance the budgets and social agenda’s of those whose budgets and profits stem STRICTLY from their scare tactics and exaggerations to the general public through a thoroughly propagandized press.

It’s all natural cycles.
It will not take long before you will see the former weather patterns with cold winters returning to Korea.

I would argue though that localized temperature affects global temperature. I have stated that the drivers behind increases in each act independently of one another but that is not to say that they don’t affect one another. Moderation of temperatures in marine localities are also localized phenomena. And as Alan Cheetham states above “Surface temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico have been falling” which would consequently cool coastal areas, once again indepently of, but affected by both the “heat island and global warming” that is happening concurrently.

Everything is related, even things acting independently do so in relation to the conditions and systems in which they operate. When you mix it all the climate models and theories together with solar flares and changing ocean currents you’ve got a synergistic soup that in which it is easy to stir in a dash of confusion. It can then be served up as fodder by those who would like to distract society from their pursuit of profit withuot regard for society or the health of the planet. My only argument with Cynthia Barnets article is that as an aside, it does little to clarify that Global Warming is a reality.

Much of the Global Warming debate has angered me over the past couple decades because the complexity of the issue is enough reason for many to argue for continuation of the “status quo”, in regards to curbing our cosumption and digestion of the earth. Hopefully their are enough enlightened individuals to lead society out of gluttony and into a happier, healthier future for the inhabitants of our home.
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Related article: http://dougsplace.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/climate-change-and-global-wwwhats-that-now/

Hmmm….. I wonder if anyone has studied the effects of tree cover absorbing sunlight on atmospheric temperature. Seems interesting. Would the trees absorb the energy from the sunlight and prevent warming?

In the 1974 Ice Age scare, people claimed “all” it would take was for the snow to not completely melt some year. Soon after hearing that I flew across the country and saw lots of dark evergreens sticking out above the snow and concluded it would be difficult for snow not to melt.

Similarly, trees are spreading into the tundra and may be a positive feedback, see
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/33383/title/Forest_invades_tundra

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I would still be interested in your response.

If you’ve the fortitude.

Cheers

P.S. No anger or name calling.

Reply: Sure. You follow rules and instructions of the blog and moderators or your posts don’t see the light of day. This is a moderated site. Hiding behind a Korean proxy server may keep you anonymous, but it doesn’t help your posts get through. EOM ~ charles the moderator.

William M. “Bill” Gray (born 1929) is a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanes.[1] In 1952 he received a B.S. degree in geography from George Washington University, and in 1959 a M.S. in meteorology from the University of Chicago, where he went on to earn a Ph.D. in geophysical sciences in 1964.

While Hansen is not degreed in climatology, his area of specialty is directly concerned with transfer of energy in atmospheres, which is what the greenhouse effect is: Hansen was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1996 for his “development of pioneering radiative transfer models and studies of planetary atmospheres;

Both cites via Wiki.

Reply: Second warning ~ charles the moderator

This referenceshows the Earth at night.

And per Sean’s suggestion on air conditioners, very true for warming any area with an A/C. Most electric power eventually turns to heat, whether from line loss, light bulbs, electric motors, or resistance heating such as electric stoves and ovens. The more inefficient the motor, the more heat is produced. Thus, urban heat islands also are heated by electric power usage and not only by solar thermal absorption.

Roger E. Sowell
Marina del Rey, California
(was in Sacramento today where there was pea-sized hail mixed with rain!)

2. Here’s my local climate: Very mild winters and relatively dry summers where it used to be very cold winters (Look up Chosun Reservoir, Korean War) and very wet summers (monsoon).

3. Here’s the most important local climate: Arctic anomalously warm this winter. http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
January 2009 average extent compared to past Januaries

While parts of North America have been in the icy grips of an unusually cold and snowy winter recently, the Arctic has been downright balmy compared to past winters.

These warmer-than-normal temperatures mean that the sea ice in the Arctic is looking pretty anemic, despite the winter season…

…”It’s warm everywhere in the Arctic. It’s anomalously warm,” said Julienne Stroeve, of the National Snow & Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Boulder, Colo.

Both December and January have been abnormally warm months, which impacts the cyclical re-freezing of sea ice over the years, because these are “two crucial ice-growing months,” Stroeve told LiveScience.

Damn those heat islands to hell and back, i tell you!

3b. Ice extent in the Arctic and Antarctic below long-term trends, with the Arctic just slightly above record lows for this time if year.

Where the HELL are they hiding those HEAT ISLANDS????????

Gee… what happened to record ice equal to 1979??????

4. Pray tell, where is the study?

4b. Has it been published and peer reviewed? No?

5. Love that graphic!!! Way to lay it all out so it’s clear as mud!! Mixing lower by -8 with higher by +8? Now that’s honesty for you!

5b. Look at the ranges:
-9 to -infinity
-8 to + 8 = 16 days (shucks, minus 8 = + 8! Everyone knows that!)
+9 to +25 = 16
+16 to +24 = 8
26 to 34 = 8
34 to infinity

The mixing of -8 to plus 8 is really dishonest. (Of course. we expect nothing less from liars, do we? No, we don’t.) Virtually all of the purple area could show warming, so roughly a 1/4 more of the area of the state could be showing warming.

6. Cities are human creations. If they are heating the planet, it would STILL be anthropogenic.

7. How much of this cooling is due to the high number of hurricanes Florida and the Gulf Coast have experienced in recent years?

You people are ridiculous.

WHERE IS YOUR SCIENCE? WHERE IS YOUR PEER-REVIEWED, GLOBAL, SCIENCE?

REPLY: And where is your courage “ccpo”? This man has the courage to investigate and publish under his own name, you are like so many others who criticize from the shadows while doing nothing of value on your own. At least have the courage to put your name behind your words. -Anthony Watts

So stop chasing phantoms by insulting CO2 of this warming. Stop fooling ourselfes by trying to make ourselfs believe that it is not a global phenomenon. Just let minimize the impact of human presence on this earth. We all, the all globe, would benefit from it.

Are you not getting this? If CO2 is “the problem” then governments get to control every aspect of human life since access to cheap energy is the foundation of our prosperity. AGW proponents are too short on specifics and hide under the skirts of “concensus” for me to consider their arguments valid. This blog is a great place to see where AGW theories may not be perfectly aligned with reality. This particular posting shows that 1st order effects on temperature are decidedly not global in nature.

“Some commenters ask me how it would be possible that population-growth induced weather changes can become a global problem. More than half of the global surface is water and so unpopulated. And even on the landpart the humans are concentrated on rather small areas ? Thus any problem associated with that can never be global ?

I think that is a very short-sighted vision. If any problems are associated with population growth they will be best sensible in these extreme dense populated zones. These area’s are spread over the whole globe, but that doesn’t matter. The consequenses of the weather changes will be felt by most of the humans because they live in these problem-areas.

Thus I think it is couting angels on a needlepoint to get involved in a discussion whether the article describes a global phenomenon of local wether changes or not.
The article describes very clearly a antropogenic induced warming that could influence weatherpatters all over the globe. And the consequences could be very negative for the humans, wherever they are on the world.

So stop chasing phantoms by insulting CO2 of this warming. Stop fooling ourselfes by trying to make ourselfs believe that it is not a global phenomenon. Just let minimize the impact of human presence on this earth. We all, the all globe, would benefit from it”.

Willem de Rode,
You have some very confused ideas which you are now projecting on the people who have made a serious attempt to provide you with a reasonable response.

Every hypothesis must be testable. If the earth has been consistently warming for the past 60 years, it would seem that none of Florida should have a shorter hot season. (except for perhaps a small outlier or two), but not on the scale on the map.

If the urban heating affect is true, I should be able to pick out the areas of greatest urbanization during the 60 years. So far that test seems to pass.

Is there a publication out there that looked at temperature trends globally or over large areas using data captured only with rural sensors compared with data captured only with urban sensors ?

Would that not settle the issue of UHI effect ?

François

REPLY: I’m working on one, but I think Joe D’Aleo touched on it recently also at ICECAP – Anthony

I really like this entry. I ate it up! I enjoyed seeing his work presented. I love to see ideas that have come from real data and not hypothesis.

I wish I had to money to finance a documentary about the Urban Heat Island effect. This man would be in it!!