Comments on: -50°F new all time record low confirmed in Maine

By: George E. Smith

George E. Smith — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:23:52 +0000

I must have been raiding somebody’s plantation; well sorry for that; I just picked a few to eat on the spot.

George

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:39:24 +0000

Except…that there are no wild blueberries in Oregon. We have huckleberries. We grow blueberries but they are not wild or native. We search for huckleberries in the mountains and even have a mountain with that name. No one I know of turns this prized berry into wine. It wastes too much of the berry. Better to freeze them, or make jams. If you go light on the pectin, the jam makes a delicious whole berry pancake syrup that is better, the menfolk tell me, than a date with the now divorced Shania Twain. The two berries are two different kinds of berry. Huckleberries are better. However, I have never tasted a wild blueberry and would very much like to. I would like to try wild blueberry wine even more.

By: George E. Smith

George E. Smith — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:15:59 +0000

“”" Pamela Gray (18:18:48) :

Speaking of, that list of Maine wines made from “vineless fruit” sounds delicious. I just might have to order me some. I don’t like white wine much and really dislike sweet wine. But red, fairly dry, wine made from wild blueberries sounds grand. Why is this wine not shipped to the west coast???? My gawd folks, we West coasters brush our teeth in red wine!!!! “”"

Besides Pamela; any fool knows that good wild blueberries come from Oregon. so phoo on Maine and Canada; they don’t know a good tasting blueberry if they tripped on one in the street.
I eat ONLY Oregon blueberries; so get that straight!

George

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:02:19 +0000

It’s a MIRACLE!!!! A government agency blames ice extent anomalies in January on something other than global warming!!!!! Buy lottery tickets!!! Ask your sweetheart for her hand in marriage (or if not that, see if you can get to 3rd base)!!!! Hell!!! Call me and I’ll hand 3rd base to you on a silver platter!!!!

(not really but it made for a nice finish on my prose)

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

By: Pamela Gray

Pamela Gray — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:18:48 +0000

By: novoburgo

novoburgo — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:52:36 +0000

Ric Werme (05:46:03) said;

“BTW, the site in Maine is along the eastern border, you wouldn’t guess that from the map.”

Ric the site is in extreme NW maine along the Quebec border in Township14, Range 16 WELS (west of the easterly line of the state), about 2 miles from the border. The previous record from Van Buren was along the NE border on the St. John river.

By: George E. Smith

George E. Smith — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:21:10 +0000

“”" gary gulrud (12:13:31) :

“but global cooling seems to have lost steam.” “”"

Well it certainly doesn’t seem to have poked its head back into any knind of warming territory relative to teh 1995 to to date. So even if it isn’t yet on any heating thunk, it is still consistent with the observation that some of the highest values of a function tend to gather around the maximum of that function, as in warmer years among the recent dozen of so;
Don’t fret; if we get into a 20-30 year long cooling trend, that eventually turns around again; its a safe bet, that there will be a collection of some of the coolest years around that next minimum.

It’s similar to the observation that some of the highest elevations on planet earth are observed to occur up in the mountains.

George

By: gary gulrud

gary gulrud — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:13:31 +0000

“but global cooling seems to have lost steam.”

The meme has captured the imagination of the masses. Like a well-chewed shoe, good old ‘warmening’ makes us feel safe at night.

Well, we shall see.

By: Sekerob

Sekerob — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:47:02 +0000

For any cold spot there’s some offsetting hot spot, such as Victoria, Australia or Wagga Wagga. Climate does not have IBMY sizes, though some only do not look further than the end of the cul de sac.

January UAH confirmed RSS 1 week later as +0.307C v +0.322C anomaly. More amazingly, the NH was per RSS +0.449C or 0.567C up from January 2008. UAH showed 0.447C. Which of the 2 has the “superior” algorithm claim to go with I don’t care, but global cooling seems to have lost steam.

By: gary gulrud

gary gulrud — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:08:28 +0000

Ron de Haan:

Bastardi is creative which earns him high marks at the outset.

I noted his “AMO has peaked”. We can expect 2020′s here in US to be a reprise of ‘Dust Bowl’ years and lower yields in the northern Plains until then with fewer degree days.

The Russians obliterate NASA re: cycle 24. How the mighty have fallen!

By: Adolfo Giurfa

Adolfo Giurfa — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:42:16 +0000

If TSI is the same all time then it is the CO2 in both cases: when it cools down and when it warms up…
Many years ago John Langdon Davies explained about the “Will to believe” and the “Will to disbelieve”, none of them is science.
So it is a good policy of WUWT to permit all theories about climate.

By: George E. Smith

George E. Smith — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:38:49 +0000

Well if you put a thermometer outside your back door, and record the temperatures every day for 100 years or so, then tomorrow you might expect about one chance in 100 that the temperature will be a new record low; or it could be a new record high; or maybe the rainfall is a new max for the day.

So about 3.65 days per year you may get a new record low or a new record high, and if you just report those, well you can make a lot of news in the local paper. But not to worry you can do the same thing next year. Ho hum ! Some day has to be the all time record low; so why not today.

George

By: hotrod

hotrod — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:05:24 +0000

Correction — date is 1893

Larry

By: hotrod

hotrod — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:02:01 +0000

I just found an interesting reference to discussion about temperature reporting errors in stevenson screens from 1898 in a google digitized document that some might find interesting.

http://books.google.com/books?id=NQngPh92TPUC&pg=RA2-PA167&lpg=RA2-PA167&dq=stevenson+screen+accuracy&source=bl&ots=HvtFYQiOHa&sig=b2PzLOudwZ4SfrLQbVAVwt16cNI&hl=en&ei=Wf6SSe3JL5j8MsG6wP8L&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PRA2-PA165,M1

Larry

By: Richard M

Richard M — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:15:27 +0000

odin749 (20:21:02) :

“Well -45.3 C sure is nice and interesting. In Melbourne here on Saturday it was +46.3 C, and ofcause everyone blamed the new record extream on Global Warming.

It is clear that neither are evidence of either Global Warming or Cooling. Just records that need to be included in the overall record and trends, do the 2 cancel each other out, maybe.”

Not really. If one believes the AGW arguments then MORE record highs should occur. All time record lows should eventually disappear. Note also that AGW claims the polar areas will warm the most. This should also reduce the number of record lows