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	<title>Comments on: Surfacestations update &#8211; we are within sight of the goal</title>
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		<title>By: yet another rice alum</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/25/surfacestations-update-we-are-within-sight-of-the-goal/#comment-78604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yet another rice alum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[are the questionable stations marked as &quot;residence&quot; ones that someone&#039;s been to and been unable to get the owner to agree to a survey?  Or is that information derived from another source?

there are three w/in an hour and a half of me all marked such.  but if someone&#039;s already tried, i don&#039;t want to waste the trip.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Residence means the station is located at somebody&#039;s home. A private volunteer observer. They aren&#039;t &quot;questionable&quot; the question mark icon simply means we don&#039;t know anything about it. Happy to help you locate them if you can tell me which one. - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are the questionable stations marked as &#8220;residence&#8221; ones that someone&#8217;s been to and been unable to get the owner to agree to a survey?  Or is that information derived from another source?</p>
<p>there are three w/in an hour and a half of me all marked such.  but if someone&#8217;s already tried, i don&#8217;t want to waste the trip.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Residence means the station is located at somebody&#8217;s home. A private volunteer observer. They aren&#8217;t &#8220;questionable&#8221; the question mark icon simply means we don&#8217;t know anything about it. Happy to help you locate them if you can tell me which one. &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Knights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fred Gams: I urge you to post that material on the antarctic volcano on the thread of last week devoted to the topic, so that &quot;the record&quot; (which will be useful to future visitors) on that topic doesn&#039;t get scattered and unfindable by a researcher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred Gams: I urge you to post that material on the antarctic volcano on the thread of last week devoted to the topic, so that &#8220;the record&#8221; (which will be useful to future visitors) on that topic doesn&#8217;t get scattered and unfindable by a researcher.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony, I see that Wallowa, Oregon has two stations.  One appears to be a private residence has moved to a slightly different location downtown.  The other is at the ranger station.  I can survey these but will need a bit of guidance as to your surfacestation website.  I was there today and got lost.  It could be due to the fact that I had a couple of beers earlier, or it could be that I took a pain pill.  Either way, email me and I should be able to accomplish what is needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, I see that Wallowa, Oregon has two stations.  One appears to be a private residence has moved to a slightly different location downtown.  The other is at the ranger station.  I can survey these but will need a bit of guidance as to your surfacestation website.  I was there today and got lost.  It could be due to the fact that I had a couple of beers earlier, or it could be that I took a pain pill.  Either way, email me and I should be able to accomplish what is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I will do Three Lynx, Oregon, in the next couple of weeks. If I can get away for a while I&#039;ll wander off into the wilds and try to get Condon. With even more time, beautiful Baker City and Malheur!

I&#039;ve got great pix of Fossil, but it&#039;s not on the list!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I will do Three Lynx, Oregon, in the next couple of weeks. If I can get away for a while I&#8217;ll wander off into the wilds and try to get Condon. With even more time, beautiful Baker City and Malheur!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got great pix of Fossil, but it&#8217;s not on the list!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Valentine Trueman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Valentine Trueman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was unable to take a photo of it because the plane was already on the runway, but at Geneva airport Switzerland I spotted a surface weather station, nicely white, sited on grass, but regrettably only 40 metres from the runway. The aircraft&#039;s engine exhausts were being blown by the wind straight onto the weather box.  Now that&#039;s science!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unable to take a photo of it because the plane was already on the runway, but at Geneva airport Switzerland I spotted a surface weather station, nicely white, sited on grass, but regrettably only 40 metres from the runway. The aircraft&#8217;s engine exhausts were being blown by the wind straight onto the weather box.  Now that&#8217;s science!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;- Buy a man a fish or teach a man to fish :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Buy a man a fish and he&#039;ll stink up the place. Give a man a fishing pole and he&#039;ll poke in the eye with it. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>- Buy a man a fish or teach a man to fish :)</p></blockquote>
<p>Buy a man a fish and he&#8217;ll stink up the place. Give a man a fishing pole and he&#8217;ll poke in the eye with it. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Harwood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Harwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony, I live 5 miles south of the Gr. Barrington airport in SW Mass.

What can I do to help with that station?

Best,

Fred]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, I live 5 miles south of the Gr. Barrington airport in SW Mass.</p>
<p>What can I do to help with that station?</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; AEGeneral (21:04:24) :

Struck a deal with Mrs General tonight after intense negotiations. ;) &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lol, you too, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> AEGeneral (21:04:24) :</p>
<p>Struck a deal with Mrs General tonight after intense negotiations. ;) </p></blockquote>
<p>Lol, you too, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: wattsupwiththat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wattsupwiththat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;NOTE: To everyone who was kind enough to sign up -&lt;/b&gt;

I saw several that had not responded to the registration verification emails that get sent after you sign up. Probably in your spam filter. 

So I manually activated everyone who signed up in the last 24 hours...you should be able to login to the 

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php 

and look around. Please follow the instructions above (in the story) on how to survey and upload your pictures to the blank station placeholder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>NOTE: To everyone who was kind enough to sign up -</b></p>
<p>I saw several that had not responded to the registration verification emails that get sent after you sign up. Probably in your spam filter. </p>
<p>So I manually activated everyone who signed up in the last 24 hours&#8230;you should be able to login to the </p>
<p><a href="http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php" rel="nofollow">http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php</a> </p>
<p>and look around. Please follow the instructions above (in the story) on how to survey and upload your pictures to the blank station placeholder.</p>
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		<title>By: AEGeneral</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AEGeneral]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Need ‘em faster than that if possible. - Anthony&lt;/i&gt;

Struck a deal with Mrs General tonight after intense negotiations. ;) 

End of February at the latest on Hernando &amp; Covington.  I&#039;ll exhaust every contact I have down in the Corinth area. Hope I can get another volunteer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Need ‘em faster than that if possible. &#8211; Anthony</i></p>
<p>Struck a deal with Mrs General tonight after intense negotiations. ;) </p>
<p>End of February at the latest on Hernando &amp; Covington.  I&#8217;ll exhaust every contact I have down in the Corinth area. Hope I can get another volunteer.</p>
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		<title>By: evanjones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evanjones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops. Sorry about that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Sorry about that!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris D.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well...for Pete&#039;s sake, White Hall, IL, has been done already. What&#039;s that old saying about assuming?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;for Pete&#8217;s sake, White Hall, IL, has been done already. What&#8217;s that old saying about assuming?</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony

I also would like to offer up my congratulations and thanks for this effort.  I am fairly new to the ranks of the &quot;skeptics&quot;, but I&#039;m scared to death by the looming disaster that could be foisted upon the world by the &quot;concensus&quot; scientists and their alarmist backers in government.  Let&#039;s hope that minds can be changed before we undertake the largest and most damaging tax in the history of mankind. 

Could someone point me to a study that shows US temp trends broken out by station rating (or is this the core reason that you have undertaken this effort)?  I have read much about the UHI effect and how some climatologists have not disclosed how they &quot;adjust&quot; their data for same.  I would be very curious to see how the UHI impacts the lower quality stations compared to the higher quality stations using unadjusted numbers.

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks, the study you ask for has yet to be written. -Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony</p>
<p>I also would like to offer up my congratulations and thanks for this effort.  I am fairly new to the ranks of the &#8220;skeptics&#8221;, but I&#8217;m scared to death by the looming disaster that could be foisted upon the world by the &#8220;concensus&#8221; scientists and their alarmist backers in government.  Let&#8217;s hope that minds can be changed before we undertake the largest and most damaging tax in the history of mankind. </p>
<p>Could someone point me to a study that shows US temp trends broken out by station rating (or is this the core reason that you have undertaken this effort)?  I have read much about the UHI effect and how some climatologists have not disclosed how they &#8220;adjust&#8221; their data for same.  I would be very curious to see how the UHI impacts the lower quality stations compared to the higher quality stations using unadjusted numbers.</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Thanks, the study you ask for has yet to be written. -Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jim B, Anthony, and all,

For those interested in looking at Canadian stations I might be of some help. I have a Ph.D. in Cloud Physics and worked 25 years at Environment Canada’s AES/MSC in Toronto, and I still know a lot of people involved in atmospheric, weather and climate research there. I could possibly help,  for example, locate station information and other data. 

Unfortunately, I don’t have time available to lead the effort to evaluate Canadian surface stations, though I could look at individual stations in and around Kamloops, BC. I already run a charity called “FogQuest: sustainable water solutions” on a full-time volunteer basis. It provides water to villages in arid regions using very large fog collectors. I mention this because a changing climate affects where we can produce water. One positive thing to come out of more low-cloud over the oceans, if it occurs, is that there will be more of it to be pushed by the wind over coastal hills and mountains, which will produce fog in these locations, and thus more water for trees and plants adapted to collecting the fog droplets, and more water for FogQuest to provide to people. Also, colder sea (and land) temperatures lead to lower cloud base heights, which in turn will lead to more frequent fog on mountains and longer duration fog events. This will deposit more fog water in places like coastal California, the west coast of South America, and many other coastal and inland locations.

There is an informal association of retired professionals from the Meteorological Service of Canada, Jim, and you may find a suitable person in that group to help. I’ll send you a contact person’s name and address.

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim B, Anthony, and all,</p>
<p>For those interested in looking at Canadian stations I might be of some help. I have a Ph.D. in Cloud Physics and worked 25 years at Environment Canada’s AES/MSC in Toronto, and I still know a lot of people involved in atmospheric, weather and climate research there. I could possibly help,  for example, locate station information and other data. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don’t have time available to lead the effort to evaluate Canadian surface stations, though I could look at individual stations in and around Kamloops, BC. I already run a charity called “FogQuest: sustainable water solutions” on a full-time volunteer basis. It provides water to villages in arid regions using very large fog collectors. I mention this because a changing climate affects where we can produce water. One positive thing to come out of more low-cloud over the oceans, if it occurs, is that there will be more of it to be pushed by the wind over coastal hills and mountains, which will produce fog in these locations, and thus more water for trees and plants adapted to collecting the fog droplets, and more water for FogQuest to provide to people. Also, colder sea (and land) temperatures lead to lower cloud base heights, which in turn will lead to more frequent fog on mountains and longer duration fog events. This will deposit more fog water in places like coastal California, the west coast of South America, and many other coastal and inland locations.</p>
<p>There is an informal association of retired professionals from the Meteorological Service of Canada, Jim, and you may find a suitable person in that group to help. I’ll send you a contact person’s name and address.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Id</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Id]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, if there is an up to date file where I could be sure that it wasn&#039;t looked at yet I would be happy to do the legwork.  I just don&#039;t want to waste several hours if the work has been done. 

- Buy a man a fish or teach a man to fish :)

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; Just visit the gallery and look at the stations surveyed. That&#039;s update date daily.

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php and select the USHCN &gt; state of interest - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if there is an up to date file where I could be sure that it wasn&#8217;t looked at yet I would be happy to do the legwork.  I just don&#8217;t want to waste several hours if the work has been done. </p>
<p>- Buy a man a fish or teach a man to fish :)</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> Just visit the gallery and look at the stations surveyed. That&#8217;s update date daily.</p>
<p><a href="http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php" rel="nofollow">http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php</a> and select the USHCN &gt; state of interest &#8211; Anthony</p>
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