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	<title>Comments on: Another promise of a flying car &#8211; sigh</title>
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		<title>By: tech</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-84707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i dont know why people dont believe they can make this happen i mean just like 80 yrs ago we didnt even have a radio and now we have palm size devices that can hold like 10,000 songs if they can do all that im sure we wont have any problem making a flying car...its kinda like a game system like the ps1 is sucked really bad then the ps2 it was pretty good with graphics and also a dvd player now we have the ps3 with 40g and 60 and even 80 g thats a lot of memory plus it has internet and everything..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know why people dont believe they can make this happen i mean just like 80 yrs ago we didnt even have a radio and now we have palm size devices that can hold like 10,000 songs if they can do all that im sure we wont have any problem making a flying car&#8230;its kinda like a game system like the ps1 is sucked really bad then the ps2 it was pretty good with graphics and also a dvd player now we have the ps3 with 40g and 60 and even 80 g thats a lot of memory plus it has internet and everything..</p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-73935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff &amp; Steve:  I like the jet version at the bottom of the page.  12,500 ft max altitude, 12+ GPH fuel consumption and about a 5 gal tank (eyeballed)... so I wonder if after climbing to 12kft you get to autorotate back down as you run out of fuel? 12000 / 30 = 400 ft/min climb ... and that is generous...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &amp; Steve:  I like the jet version at the bottom of the page.  12,500 ft max altitude, 12+ GPH fuel consumption and about a 5 gal tank (eyeballed)&#8230; so I wonder if after climbing to 12kft you get to autorotate back down as you run out of fuel? 12000 / 30 = 400 ft/min climb &#8230; and that is generous&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M.</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-73559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff, no doubt :) could you imagine flying one of those things at the maximum altitude? 10k feet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, no doubt :) could you imagine flying one of those things at the maximum altitude? 10k feet!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-73262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Steve M. (09:00:57) :

http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/

Not a flying car…ultralight helicopter, and it requires no pilot license.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately no cargo space, and extemely dangerous. Anything with open spinning rotors like that will always be too dangerous for everyday use by the average person. Not just because of the danger of someone getting too close, but of hitting obstructions.

There&#039;s still the single element of failure that will cause one to plummet to their deaths. Acutally multiple single elements (engine failure, loss of fuel, main rotor damage/failure, tail rotor damage/failure)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Steve M. (09:00:57) :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/</a></p>
<p>Not a flying car…ultralight helicopter, and it requires no pilot license.
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<p>Unfortunately no cargo space, and extemely dangerous. Anything with open spinning rotors like that will always be too dangerous for everyday use by the average person. Not just because of the danger of someone getting too close, but of hitting obstructions.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still the single element of failure that will cause one to plummet to their deaths. Acutally multiple single elements (engine failure, loss of fuel, main rotor damage/failure, tail rotor damage/failure)</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wouldn&#039;t surprise me. Renaissances mean increased interest in Cultural Arts and Science. They happen about every 60 years (The last was the hippy movement). The next renaissance is called the awakening and will happen in 2020. When this occurs scientist believe that humans will enter the next stage of evolution where we will begin using the more of our brains. They say we could become so advanced that we could advance beyond destroying the environment and live in harmony with nature instead...aka...sustainable development. Also in 20212 the Roman/Christian Age ends and we enter the Age of Aquarius which is a space age called galactic diaspora. This new age will last until the 4000&#039;s A.D.

Seems plausible to me...The Mayans do say that the current age will end in 2012.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me. Renaissances mean increased interest in Cultural Arts and Science. They happen about every 60 years (The last was the hippy movement). The next renaissance is called the awakening and will happen in 2020. When this occurs scientist believe that humans will enter the next stage of evolution where we will begin using the more of our brains. They say we could become so advanced that we could advance beyond destroying the environment and live in harmony with nature instead&#8230;aka&#8230;sustainable development. Also in 20212 the Roman/Christian Age ends and we enter the Age of Aquarius which is a space age called galactic diaspora. This new age will last until the 4000&#8242;s A.D.</p>
<p>Seems plausible to me&#8230;The Mayans do say that the current age will end in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/

Not a flying car...ultralight helicopter, and it requires no pilot license.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/</a></p>
<p>Not a flying car&#8230;ultralight helicopter, and it requires no pilot license.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduardo Ferreyra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eduardo Ferreyra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first succesfull flying car was built in 1947 by Robert Fulton Jr. who died in 2004 in Connecticut. I was  good friend of his son Bob Fulton, a terrific pilot that made several beautiful aerial documentaries filming from his Cessna-180 all over South America for the BBC. He died in a plane crash in his Cessna during a terrible storm when flying to his home in Conn. 

I have seen pictures of Bob when he was a boy flying the car with his father, disassembling it, driving it in the roads, etc. ee here the news about Robert Fulton&#039;s death at the age of 96. Or Google him. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19307-2004May11.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19307-2004May11.html&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first succesfull flying car was built in 1947 by Robert Fulton Jr. who died in 2004 in Connecticut. I was  good friend of his son Bob Fulton, a terrific pilot that made several beautiful aerial documentaries filming from his Cessna-180 all over South America for the BBC. He died in a plane crash in his Cessna during a terrible storm when flying to his home in Conn. </p>
<p>I have seen pictures of Bob when he was a boy flying the car with his father, disassembling it, driving it in the roads, etc. ee here the news about Robert Fulton&#8217;s death at the age of 96. Or Google him. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19307-2004May11.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19307-2004May11.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas DC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas DC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was well aquainted with Molt Taylor of Aerocar fame.He was a self taught Engineer, and his Aerocar was a passable airplane,but as a car,I wouldn&#039;t want to hard corner one.His main idea was something to get to and from the airport with
but not take the car part on long cross-countires-unless it was flying.
Molt was an interesting,opinionated guy,and I spent may hours listening to his ideas on Aerodynamics and design.He predicted the failure of the Beech Starship, for instance,as an example...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was well aquainted with Molt Taylor of Aerocar fame.He was a self taught Engineer, and his Aerocar was a passable airplane,but as a car,I wouldn&#8217;t want to hard corner one.His main idea was something to get to and from the airport with<br />
but not take the car part on long cross-countires-unless it was flying.<br />
Molt was an interesting,opinionated guy,and I spent may hours listening to his ideas on Aerodynamics and design.He predicted the failure of the Beech Starship, for instance,as an example&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-72995</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;wattsupwiththat (19:38:15) :
I predict we will see this car in whatever James Bond film comes out in 2012.
&lt;/i&gt;
Didn&#039;t one of the bond films already have a flying car in it?
google google ... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Golden_Gun_(film)

&lt;i&gt;Attempting to place a homing device, she is locked into Scaramanga&#039;s car, an AMC Matador, as he drives away. Bond follows him in an AMC Hornet &#039;X&#039; with Sheriff J.W. Pepper at his side — whom he encounters when acquiring the vehicle — and a car chase across Bangkok ensues, concluding at a barn in the countryside outside the city with Scaramanga&#039;s car transforming into a plane and flying away to his island in the Yellow Sea near China.&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/vehicles/flying-amc-matador]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>wattsupwiththat (19:38:15) :<br />
I predict we will see this car in whatever James Bond film comes out in 2012.<br />
</i><br />
Didn&#8217;t one of the bond films already have a flying car in it?<br />
google google &#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Golden_Gun_(film)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Golden_Gun_(film)</a></p>
<p><i>Attempting to place a homing device, she is locked into Scaramanga&#8217;s car, an AMC Matador, as he drives away. Bond follows him in an AMC Hornet &#8216;X&#8217; with Sheriff J.W. Pepper at his side — whom he encounters when acquiring the vehicle — and a car chase across Bangkok ensues, concluding at a barn in the countryside outside the city with Scaramanga&#8217;s car transforming into a plane and flying away to his island in the Yellow Sea near China.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/vehicles/flying-amc-matador" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/vehicles/flying-amc-matador</a></p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-72987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ACK:  I know they were airships and not blimps... please don&#039;t bother to correct that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACK:  I know they were airships and not blimps&#8230; please don&#8217;t bother to correct that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E.M.Smith</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/12/another-promise-of-a-flying-car-sigh/#comment-72971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.M.Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Ron de Haan (15:43:56) :
This is the website of the PALV-V based on the Carver.
These guys solved all the legislative and technical obstacles.
It will be fun to drive and fun to fly at a reasonable price.
http://www.pal-v.com/  &lt;/i&gt;

Um, harvesting a minor nit...  This has 3 wheels, so it&#039;s a motorcycle, and a rotor, so it&#039;s a gyrocopter.  It is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; a flying car.  It is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; a roadable airplane.

The rules for motorcycles are, IMHO &quot;Willing to die in it?  OK, you&#039;re certified.&quot; - BTW, I own 4 motorcycles, 2 of which are working... so I&#039;m not coming at this from some uninformed position.  I&#039;ve been riding for 40+ years now.  That I&#039;ve lived through it is luck, paranoia, and a couple of helmets with good &#039;leathers&#039;.  &quot;a few&quot; of my motorcycles did not...

AFAIK, the rules for gyrocopters have not significantly advanced since the autogyro days, but that&#039;s uninformed bigotry on my part. (I have seen one article claiming this, but don&#039;t know to which country they were referring...)

Also, any licensing under the &#039;experimental&#039; rules forbids operation in urban areas, congested air space, etc. etc.  You don&#039;t just head to the SFO TCA for lunch on Market Street...  It&#039;s for rural use, not commuting to work downtown.  (I&#039;ve piloted a glider in another time, long ago, and I&#039;ve flown a hot air balloon - &lt;b&gt;inside hanger 1&lt;/b&gt; at Moffett NAS where they used to park blimps.  It&#039;s a &lt;b&gt;lot&lt;/b&gt; bigger in there than it looks!) 

Given those qualifiers:  Heck, I&#039;d love to have one of these at a reasonable price!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ron de Haan (15:43:56) :<br />
This is the website of the PALV-V based on the Carver.<br />
These guys solved all the legislative and technical obstacles.<br />
It will be fun to drive and fun to fly at a reasonable price.<br />
<a href="http://www.pal-v.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pal-v.com/</a>  </i></p>
<p>Um, harvesting a minor nit&#8230;  This has 3 wheels, so it&#8217;s a motorcycle, and a rotor, so it&#8217;s a gyrocopter.  It is <b>not</b> a flying car.  It is <b>not</b> a roadable airplane.</p>
<p>The rules for motorcycles are, IMHO &#8220;Willing to die in it?  OK, you&#8217;re certified.&#8221; &#8211; BTW, I own 4 motorcycles, 2 of which are working&#8230; so I&#8217;m not coming at this from some uninformed position.  I&#8217;ve been riding for 40+ years now.  That I&#8217;ve lived through it is luck, paranoia, and a couple of helmets with good &#8216;leathers&#8217;.  &#8220;a few&#8221; of my motorcycles did not&#8230;</p>
<p>AFAIK, the rules for gyrocopters have not significantly advanced since the autogyro days, but that&#8217;s uninformed bigotry on my part. (I have seen one article claiming this, but don&#8217;t know to which country they were referring&#8230;)</p>
<p>Also, any licensing under the &#8216;experimental&#8217; rules forbids operation in urban areas, congested air space, etc. etc.  You don&#8217;t just head to the SFO TCA for lunch on Market Street&#8230;  It&#8217;s for rural use, not commuting to work downtown.  (I&#8217;ve piloted a glider in another time, long ago, and I&#8217;ve flown a hot air balloon &#8211; <b>inside hanger 1</b> at Moffett NAS where they used to park blimps.  It&#8217;s a <b>lot</b> bigger in there than it looks!) </p>
<p>Given those qualifiers:  Heck, I&#8217;d love to have one of these at a reasonable price!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! It only goes to prove there is A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE.

A dent on an automobile is a cosmetic problem.

A dent on an aircraft is a STRUCTURAL PROBLEM.

Let&#039;s put a 3&quot; deep dent in the side of a Cessna 182.  Cost to repair?

Certified A&amp;P, probably about 1 week to do the job. And about $5000.

Cost to have inspected and recertified, another $1500.

Total cost: $6500. Likelyhood of a dent: 1 per year. Insurance rate? Probably $600 a month.

Cool!

I&#039;m sure John Travolta will love his.

Mark from MN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! It only goes to prove there is A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE.</p>
<p>A dent on an automobile is a cosmetic problem.</p>
<p>A dent on an aircraft is a STRUCTURAL PROBLEM.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s put a 3&#8243; deep dent in the side of a Cessna 182.  Cost to repair?</p>
<p>Certified A&amp;P, probably about 1 week to do the job. And about $5000.</p>
<p>Cost to have inspected and recertified, another $1500.</p>
<p>Total cost: $6500. Likelyhood of a dent: 1 per year. Insurance rate? Probably $600 a month.</p>
<p>Cool!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure John Travolta will love his.</p>
<p>Mark from MN</p>
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		<title>By: H.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a jetpack kind of guy myself.

I used to have an old IH Scout that I&#039;d get airborne every time I went over a certain railroad crossing near my house. The tracks were rough and the launch angle (steep!) was perfect to get all four wheels off the ground going over the tracks. At a speed of just under 45 miles per hour, it made for a perfect landing on the other side of the tracks. (&quot;Those were the days, my friends.&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a jetpack kind of guy myself.</p>
<p>I used to have an old IH Scout that I&#8217;d get airborne every time I went over a certain railroad crossing near my house. The tracks were rough and the launch angle (steep!) was perfect to get all four wheels off the ground going over the tracks. At a speed of just under 45 miles per hour, it made for a perfect landing on the other side of the tracks. (&#8220;Those were the days, my friends.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ironic that I saw this video just before: http://www.theonion.com/content/video/mean_automakers_dash_nations_hope]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic that I saw this video just before: <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/video/mean_automakers_dash_nations_hope" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/content/video/mean_automakers_dash_nations_hope</a></p>
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		<title>By: superDBA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[superDBA]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You need not worry about one of these things falling on your head. With those tiny wheels, the vehicle will disappear into the first pothole it encounters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need not worry about one of these things falling on your head. With those tiny wheels, the vehicle will disappear into the first pothole it encounters.</p>
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