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	<title>Comments on: State of the Sun for year end 2008: all&#8217;s quiet on the solar front &#8211; too quiet</title>
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		<title>By: Harvey Bloom</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/03/state-of-the-sun-year-end-2008-alls-quiet-on-the-solar-front/#comment-79459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harvey Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been concerned and following the lack of sunspots and lower than predicted. 
As of today (1/31/2009) - I think that we&#039;ve had 328 consecutive days without sunspots. 
If anyone has contrary info, I&#039;d appreciate it. 
Links from 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html; http://spacescience.com/;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been concerned and following the lack of sunspots and lower than predicted.<br />
As of today (1/31/2009) &#8211; I think that we&#8217;ve had 328 consecutive days without sunspots.<br />
If anyone has contrary info, I&#8217;d appreciate it.<br />
Links from<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html</a>; <a href="http://spacescience.com/" rel="nofollow">http://spacescience.com/</a>;</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NEW SUNSPOTS:  For the second time this week, a sunspot is coalescing on the surface of the sun.  The spot&#039;s high latitude and magnetic polarity identify it as a member of new Solar Cycle 24; its appearance continues a recent trend of gradually intensifying new-cycle solar activity.  The spot is growing rapidly and may soon provide a nice target for backyard solar telescopes.
From - www.spaceweather.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEW SUNSPOTS:  For the second time this week, a sunspot is coalescing on the surface of the sun.  The spot&#8217;s high latitude and magnetic polarity identify it as a member of new Solar Cycle 24; its appearance continues a recent trend of gradually intensifying new-cycle solar activity.  The spot is growing rapidly and may soon provide a nice target for backyard solar telescopes.<br />
From &#8211; <a href="http://www.spaceweather.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.spaceweather.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sergio da Roma (04:10:59) :
&lt;i&gt;I noted a big difference between MacMurdo and the south pole. Thule is at about 78 degree N. &lt;/i&gt;
The latitude that is important is the magnetic latitude, not the geographic one. Thule sits at something like 89 degrees [changes a bit with time].

&lt;i&gt;I was interested about that, because I guess CR could be a very different effect on climate over the poles in comparison to the lower latitudes covered by oceans. What do you think about that? Is it possible that GCR anisotropy originated by IMF has opposite configuration and trends over the north pole?&lt;/i&gt;
It shouldn&#039;t matter where we are as far as real changes in GCRs are concerned. The thing is a bit of a mystery. I mentioned it mainly as an illustration of why one should not hang too much on what a single stations shows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergio da Roma (04:10:59) :<br />
<i>I noted a big difference between MacMurdo and the south pole. Thule is at about 78 degree N. </i><br />
The latitude that is important is the magnetic latitude, not the geographic one. Thule sits at something like 89 degrees [changes a bit with time].</p>
<p><i>I was interested about that, because I guess CR could be a very different effect on climate over the poles in comparison to the lower latitudes covered by oceans. What do you think about that? Is it possible that GCR anisotropy originated by IMF has opposite configuration and trends over the north pole?</i><br />
It shouldn&#8217;t matter where we are as far as real changes in GCRs are concerned. The thing is a bit of a mystery. I mentioned it mainly as an illustration of why one should not hang too much on what a single stations shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio da Roma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergio da Roma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Leif for your replay. I&#039;m sorry but I have still a little doubt. In that article I noted a big difference between MacMurdo and the south pole. Thule is at about 78 degree N. I was interested about that, because I guess CR could be a very different effect on climate over the poles in comparison to the lower latitudes covered by oceans. What do you think about that? Is it possible that GCR anisotropy originated by IMF has opposite configuration and trends over the north pole? 

Thank you in advance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Leif for your replay. I&#8217;m sorry but I have still a little doubt. In that article I noted a big difference between MacMurdo and the south pole. Thule is at about 78 degree N. I was interested about that, because I guess CR could be a very different effect on climate over the poles in comparison to the lower latitudes covered by oceans. What do you think about that? Is it possible that GCR anisotropy originated by IMF has opposite configuration and trends over the north pole? </p>
<p>Thank you in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard111 (00:52:31) : 

&quot;Is that a small spot (two?) at about 4 o’clock near the limb?&quot;

Not anymore. But look just up to around 3 oclock near the edge, looks like someone scratched the surface. Get it quick though before it gets cold.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard111 (00:52:31) : </p>
<p>&#8220;Is that a small spot (two?) at about 4 o’clock near the limb?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not anymore. But look just up to around 3 oclock near the edge, looks like someone scratched the surface. Get it quick though before it gets cold.</p>
<p><a href="http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html" rel="nofollow">http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tatz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Tatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Tex, I know it&#039;s been discussed but now we have a new acronym.

You have to say it fast, although I don&#039;t know how it&#039;d sound with a drawl.

YAHP

Regards,
Bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Tex, I know it&#8217;s been discussed but now we have a new acronym.</p>
<p>You have to say it fast, although I don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;d sound with a drawl.</p>
<p>YAHP</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Tex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beat you by almost exactly 24 hours Bob.  It looks like they corrected the January 2008 on the graph to say January 2009, but its the same prediction graph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat you by almost exactly 24 hours Bob.  It looks like they corrected the January 2008 on the graph to say January 2009, but its the same prediction graph.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tatz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Tatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YAHP : Yet Another Hathaway Prediction...
  ( ok, every few years:  YAHP, YAHP, YAHP.... )

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/ssn_predict_l.gif

I sometimes think he should replace the backdrop of the sun with a crystal ball.

He&#039;s still picking a max of 100 sunspots so Lief has not quite convinced him.

Regards,
Bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAHP : Yet Another Hathaway Prediction&#8230;<br />
  ( ok, every few years:  YAHP, YAHP, YAHP&#8230;. )</p>
<p><a href="http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/ssn_predict_l.gif" rel="nofollow">http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/ssn_predict_l.gif</a></p>
<p>I sometimes think he should replace the backdrop of the sun with a crystal ball.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s still picking a max of 100 sunspots so Lief has not quite convinced him.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Svalgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sergio da Roma (04:11:14) :
&lt;i&gt;&quot;There are even indications that the primary cosmic ray intensity may be decreasing [...]&quot;

In that article was reported an evident cosmic rays decreasing in geographic south pole. What about the north pole? Any monitoring there,&lt;/i&gt;

Thule is near the northern magnetic pole: http://www.leif.org/research/thule-cosmic-rays.png]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergio da Roma (04:11:14) :<br />
<i>&#8220;There are even indications that the primary cosmic ray intensity may be decreasing [...]&#8221;</p>
<p>In that article was reported an evident cosmic rays decreasing in geographic south pole. What about the north pole? Any monitoring there,</i></p>
<p>Thule is near the northern magnetic pole: <a href="http://www.leif.org/research/thule-cosmic-rays.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.leif.org/research/thule-cosmic-rays.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sergio da Roma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergio da Roma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard 10:25:50 04/01/2009 

There are even indications that the primary cosmic ray intensity may be decreasing:
http://neutronm.bartol.udel.edu/reprints/2007bieber.pdf
That link also contains a good discussion of all the factors involved in long-term cosmic ray assessment.


 In that article was reported an evident cosmic rays decreasing in geographic south pole. What about the north pole? Any monitoring there, I suppose...but it could be a relevant question in relation to possible long term climate effects of cosmic rays in artctic areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leif Svalgaard 10:25:50 04/01/2009 </p>
<p>There are even indications that the primary cosmic ray intensity may be decreasing:<br />
<a href="http://neutronm.bartol.udel.edu/reprints/2007bieber.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://neutronm.bartol.udel.edu/reprints/2007bieber.pdf</a><br />
That link also contains a good discussion of all the factors involved in long-term cosmic ray assessment.</p>
<p> In that article was reported an evident cosmic rays decreasing in geographic south pole. What about the north pole? Any monitoring there, I suppose&#8230;but it could be a relevant question in relation to possible long term climate effects of cosmic rays in artctic areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Brozyna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Brozyna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sun&#039;s still spotless after 25 days. Last night&#039;s sunspeck appears to have been a too short-lived event to be worthy of official notice.

In other news, I hear Hathaway has come out with a new forecast. Sure hope they can do an update on what&#039;s now showing at SWPC&#039;s graphs. They&#039;re showing an embarrassing disconnect between the old forecast and the current situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sun&#8217;s still spotless after 25 days. Last night&#8217;s sunspeck appears to have been a too short-lived event to be worthy of official notice.</p>
<p>In other news, I hear Hathaway has come out with a new forecast. Sure hope they can do an update on what&#8217;s now showing at SWPC&#8217;s graphs. They&#8217;re showing an embarrassing disconnect between the old forecast and the current situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that a small spot (two?) at about 4 o&#039;clock near the limb?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a small spot (two?) at about 4 o&#8217;clock near the limb?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got a new sunspot! Lower right hand.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html

Viewed (timestamped 2009/01/07 00:00)

I watched this on magnetogram since earlier today.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs_small/20090107_0000_mdi_mag.gif

Remember, you heard it here first. Get it while it&#039;s hot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a new sunspot! Lower right hand.</p>
<p><a href="http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html" rel="nofollow">http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html</a></p>
<p>Viewed (timestamped 2009/01/07 00:00)</p>
<p>I watched this on magnetogram since earlier today.</p>
<p><a href="http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs_small/20090107_0000_mdi_mag.gif" rel="nofollow">http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs_small/20090107_0000_mdi_mag.gif</a></p>
<p>Remember, you heard it here first. Get it while it&#8217;s hot.</p>
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		<title>By: maksimovich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maksimovich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leif Svalgaard10:01:11) :

&quot;work by Drew Shindell at NASA points to these shifts in the jetstream
Shindell used what we today consider to be an obsolete reconstruction of the Total Solar Irradiance and the conclusion is therefore no longer valid.&quot;

Indeed neither TSI or f10.7 are valid proxies for UV reconstructions as they do not capture the required frequencies for photochemical amplification or attenuation.(eg Rozanov)

Much the same for GCR and &quot;averaging&quot; where there are widespread discrepancies between neutron monitors and both balloon and satellite observations and latitude attenuation eg Bazilevskaya  et al

http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/SSR_Baz_2008.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leif Svalgaard10:01:11) :</p>
<p>&#8220;work by Drew Shindell at NASA points to these shifts in the jetstream<br />
Shindell used what we today consider to be an obsolete reconstruction of the Total Solar Irradiance and the conclusion is therefore no longer valid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed neither TSI or f10.7 are valid proxies for UV reconstructions as they do not capture the required frequencies for photochemical amplification or attenuation.(eg Rozanov)</p>
<p>Much the same for GCR and &#8220;averaging&#8221; where there are widespread discrepancies between neutron monitors and both balloon and satellite observations and latitude attenuation eg Bazilevskaya  et al</p>
<p><a href="http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/SSR_Baz_2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/SSR_Baz_2008.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: anna v</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anna v]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George E. Smith (11:23:21) : 

I agree that there are too many convolutions intervening, but it is interesting that they are hitting the problem from many sides:

There is a previous article by the same authors, http://www.iac.es/galeria/epalle/reprints/Palle_etal_EOS_2006.pdf
 and they are using  not only earthshine but also satellite measurements and ground cloud measurements to estimate albedo.

 For fun, I guestimated from the figure  the values of albedo and derived a temperature  and posted it  on a previous thread. There is heating  and then there is a steady state.

The Palle plot is also in
http://www.leif.org/research/albedo.png
with the temperatures either atmoz http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/02/27/4-global-temperature-anomalies-say-the-same-thing/

or junkscience ihttp://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/MSUvsRSS-m.html

I used the toy model at http://junkscience.com/Greenhouse/Earth_temp.html to turn albedo to temperature and got much greater swings in amplitude ( not surprisingly) than measurements.

&lt;i&gt;Normalizing on the atmoz anomaly plot for of 2005, I get, starting from 1984, (accuracy not so hot, estimated by eye)

-1.3 C 1984
-1.46
-0.80
-0.63
-1.13
-0.47
-1.17
-0.15
-1.13
-0.01
0.44
2.69 1998
0.83
0.83
0.83
0.5
1.15
-0.96 2004
0.35 2005
&lt;/i&gt;

I am waiting for the next years albedo values :).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George E. Smith (11:23:21) : </p>
<p>I agree that there are too many convolutions intervening, but it is interesting that they are hitting the problem from many sides:</p>
<p>There is a previous article by the same authors, <a href="http://www.iac.es/galeria/epalle/reprints/Palle_etal_EOS_2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.iac.es/galeria/epalle/reprints/Palle_etal_EOS_2006.pdf</a><br />
 and they are using  not only earthshine but also satellite measurements and ground cloud measurements to estimate albedo.</p>
<p> For fun, I guestimated from the figure  the values of albedo and derived a temperature  and posted it  on a previous thread. There is heating  and then there is a steady state.</p>
<p>The Palle plot is also in<br />
<a href="http://www.leif.org/research/albedo.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.leif.org/research/albedo.png</a><br />
with the temperatures either atmoz <a href="http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/02/27/4-global-temperature-anomalies-say-the-same-thing/" rel="nofollow">http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/02/27/4-global-temperature-anomalies-say-the-same-thing/</a></p>
<p>or junkscience ihttp://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/MSUvsRSS-m.html</p>
<p>I used the toy model at <a href="http://junkscience.com/Greenhouse/Earth_temp.html" rel="nofollow">http://junkscience.com/Greenhouse/Earth_temp.html</a> to turn albedo to temperature and got much greater swings in amplitude ( not surprisingly) than measurements.</p>
<p><i>Normalizing on the atmoz anomaly plot for of 2005, I get, starting from 1984, (accuracy not so hot, estimated by eye)</p>
<p>-1.3 C 1984<br />
-1.46<br />
-0.80<br />
-0.63<br />
-1.13<br />
-0.47<br />
-1.17<br />
-0.15<br />
-1.13<br />
-0.01<br />
0.44<br />
2.69 1998<br />
0.83<br />
0.83<br />
0.83<br />
0.5<br />
1.15<br />
-0.96 2004<br />
0.35 2005<br />
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<p>I am waiting for the next years albedo values :).</p>
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