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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-69363</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since a big part of this site is about predictions, I predict &lt;b&gt;7,000,000+&lt;/b&gt; blog hits by 1-05-09.

A gift for all those who made this site such a big success: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freecarbonoffsets.com/genCert.do&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clicky&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since a big part of this site is about predictions, I predict <b>7,000,000+</b> blog hits by 1-05-09.</p>
<p>A gift for all those who made this site such a big success: <a href="http://www.freecarbonoffsets.com/genCert.do" rel="nofollow">clicky</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations Anthony, you deserve it. This is a great blog. Congratulations as well for becoming a finalist for the 2008 Weblog &quot;Best Science Blog&quot; award. Romm goes off on quite a rant about this today at climate progress. He goes so far as to recommend against his readers voting for RC saying: &quot;Much as I’d love to recommend voting for RealClimate, the smart money has to be on voting for last year’s co-winner — Bad Astronomy Blog&quot;. I&#039;ll bet Gavin is steamed. Good. 

Good luck in the vote Anthony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Anthony, you deserve it. This is a great blog. Congratulations as well for becoming a finalist for the 2008 Weblog &#8220;Best Science Blog&#8221; award. Romm goes off on quite a rant about this today at climate progress. He goes so far as to recommend against his readers voting for RC saying: &#8220;Much as I’d love to recommend voting for RealClimate, the smart money has to be on voting for last year’s co-winner — Bad Astronomy Blog&#8221;. I&#8217;ll bet Gavin is steamed. Good. </p>
<p>Good luck in the vote Anthony.</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smokey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now it&#039;s 6,909,553 hits. 5,000 new hits in just two hours. &lt;b&gt;7 million hits&lt;/b&gt; is right around the corner.

I don&#039;t want to miss anything in this historic debate, so I&#039;ve made WUWT my home page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it&#8217;s 6,909,553 hits. 5,000 new hits in just two hours. <b>7 million hits</b> is right around the corner.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to miss anything in this historic debate, so I&#8217;ve made WUWT my home page.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hansen</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone mentioned that WUWT has passed the RC total number of hits? Was this in the models?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone mentioned that WUWT has passed the RC total number of hits? Was this in the models?</p>
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		<title>By: Smokey</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smokey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So there I was just minding my own business, congratulating Anthony on his well-deserved success, when Ed Darrell (16:02:49) comes along and starts an argument over &lt;i&gt;glaciers&lt;/i&gt;.

Ed, I&#039;m sorry that glacier behavior distresses you, but really, it&#039;s not a problem at all. Maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/03/24/review-comments-extracting-a-climate-signal-from-169-glacier-records&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this will help you understand&lt;/a&gt; bogus &#039;data&#039;, and help you to see what&#039;s really going on.

Let&#039;s end the year on an up note: Happy New Year Ed, and thanx for your contributions toward this site&#039;s 6,904,736 hits [and counting...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there I was just minding my own business, congratulating Anthony on his well-deserved success, when Ed Darrell (16:02:49) comes along and starts an argument over <i>glaciers</i>.</p>
<p>Ed, I&#8217;m sorry that glacier behavior distresses you, but really, it&#8217;s not a problem at all. Maybe <a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/03/24/review-comments-extracting-a-climate-signal-from-169-glacier-records" rel="nofollow">this will help you understand</a> bogus &#8216;data&#8217;, and help you to see what&#8217;s really going on.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s end the year on an up note: Happy New Year Ed, and thanx for your contributions toward this site&#8217;s 6,904,736 hits [and counting...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mongo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mongo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations Anthony (and the moderating team)! Objectivity is a haven to cherish, and yours is a model of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Anthony (and the moderating team)! Objectivity is a haven to cherish, and yours is a model of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Keohane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Keohane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations Anthony, and staff. Thank you for all your hard work and fairness of mind. All the best in &#039;09.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Anthony, and staff. Thank you for all your hard work and fairness of mind. All the best in &#8217;09.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Werme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ric Werme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary Hinge (03:17:55) :

&lt;blockquote&gt;
    So best wishes to all, Anthony keep the blog going and lets carry on with the meaty debates!

    REPLY: It is my pleasure. Differences of opinion, sans snark or anger, are welcomed here. - Anthony

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, no fair, does this mean that Evan and I can&#039;t post quotes from &quot;The Hunting of the Snark?&quot;  At least you didn&#039;t include &quot;sans frumious&quot;.

Mary, I&#039;ve seen too many organizations turn into mobs full of self importance who run off in leaderless direction.  We always need a few naysayers like you and Leif to remind us to think first, write second.  I don&#039;t suppose you and Leif get mentioned together in too many sentences.

When you decide we&#039;re right after all, be sure to bring in a replacement.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Hinge (03:17:55) :</p>
<blockquote><p>
    So best wishes to all, Anthony keep the blog going and lets carry on with the meaty debates!</p>
<p>    REPLY: It is my pleasure. Differences of opinion, sans snark or anger, are welcomed here. &#8211; Anthony</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hey, no fair, does this mean that Evan and I can&#8217;t post quotes from &#8220;The Hunting of the Snark?&#8221;  At least you didn&#8217;t include &#8220;sans frumious&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mary, I&#8217;ve seen too many organizations turn into mobs full of self importance who run off in leaderless direction.  We always need a few naysayers like you and Leif to remind us to think first, write second.  I don&#8217;t suppose you and Leif get mentioned together in too many sentences.</p>
<p>When you decide we&#8217;re right after all, be sure to bring in a replacement.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Clark</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats Anthony.

I&#039;ve been a avid reader since about March or June or....oh how time flies! 

&lt;i&gt;Terry Ward (07:50:43) : 

The graph correlates with CO2 as measured at Mauna Loa.

This blog is the cause of global warming.&lt;/i&gt;

I am highly skeptical of that correlation. Although not statistically quantified or peer-reviewed, I am sure there is a higher inverse correlation between WUWT hits and global cooling since blog inception. I take great satisfaction knowing that every time I open WUWT I contribute .00000001degrees C to aid in cooling our planet. But then, I is stupiderer :&lt;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats Anthony.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a avid reader since about March or June or&#8230;.oh how time flies! </p>
<p><i>Terry Ward (07:50:43) : </p>
<p>The graph correlates with CO2 as measured at Mauna Loa.</p>
<p>This blog is the cause of global warming.</i></p>
<p>I am highly skeptical of that correlation. Although not statistically quantified or peer-reviewed, I am sure there is a higher inverse correlation between WUWT hits and global cooling since blog inception. I take great satisfaction knowing that every time I open WUWT I contribute .00000001degrees C to aid in cooling our planet. But then, I is stupiderer :&lt;).</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smokey said:  &lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry, Ed, I don’t click on sites with “denialist” in the name.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry.  Didn&#039;t know you were allergic to data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smokey said:<br />
<blockquote>Sorry, Ed, I don’t click on sites with “denialist” in the name.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry.  Didn&#8217;t know you were allergic to data.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick J</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mick J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re. soil (03:29:22) :
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I guess this alexa.com comparison is well known but since I have’nt seen it posted here, looks like a good moment to do:

http://plazamoyua.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wuwt-rc.jpg
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Easy to spot the RC graph, it has the sharp up-tick at the end. :)

My thanks for this site and the efforts to keep it an open debating forum. I started at RC having become concerned but then noted that all too often in my opinion the use of personal attacks when differing views are dealt with. So now spend altogether too much time at this site, Icecap and ClimateAudit. :)

A good year to all here.

Mick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. soil (03:29:22) :<br />
&#8212;<br />
I guess this alexa.com comparison is well known but since I have’nt seen it posted here, looks like a good moment to do:</p>
<p><a href="http://plazamoyua.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wuwt-rc.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://plazamoyua.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wuwt-rc.jpg</a><br />
&#8212;<br />
Easy to spot the RC graph, it has the sharp up-tick at the end. :)</p>
<p>My thanks for this site and the efforts to keep it an open debating forum. I started at RC having become concerned but then noted that all too often in my opinion the use of personal attacks when differing views are dealt with. So now spend altogether too much time at this site, Icecap and ClimateAudit. :)</p>
<p>A good year to all here.</p>
<p>Mick.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hinge</title>
		<link>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/31/end-the-year-on-an-up-note/#comment-68579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Hinge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony,
May I wish you and your colleagues all the warmest wishes for 2009. I know we don&#039;t see eye to eye on the majority of subjects but I thank you for allowing me to state an opposing case without censorship. This is why I, and many others, keep coming back. 
I would like to give warmest wishes to those regulars that have given good references to various subjects. Thanks to Leif specially, I know a lot more about the sun than this time last year.

So best wishes to all, Anthony keep the blog going and lets carry on with the meaty debates!

&lt;strong&gt;REPLY:&lt;/strong&gt; It is my pleasure. Differences of opinion, sans snark or anger, are welcomed here. - Anthony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,<br />
May I wish you and your colleagues all the warmest wishes for 2009. I know we don&#8217;t see eye to eye on the majority of subjects but I thank you for allowing me to state an opposing case without censorship. This is why I, and many others, keep coming back.<br />
I would like to give warmest wishes to those regulars that have given good references to various subjects. Thanks to Leif specially, I know a lot more about the sun than this time last year.</p>
<p>So best wishes to all, Anthony keep the blog going and lets carry on with the meaty debates!</p>
<p><strong>REPLY:</strong> It is my pleasure. Differences of opinion, sans snark or anger, are welcomed here. &#8211; Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Marohasy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Marohasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony, 
Congratulaions on the amazing web stats - you are an inspiration to other &#039;skeptical&#039; bloggers. 
And best wishes to you, and your readers, for a happy New Year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,<br />
Congratulaions on the amazing web stats &#8211; you are an inspiration to other &#8216;skeptical&#8217; bloggers.<br />
And best wishes to you, and your readers, for a happy New Year.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip_B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip_B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smokey,

&lt;i&gt;the Himalayas (glaciers), which help to provide water for a sixth of mankind.&lt;/i&gt;

The Himalayan glaciers only provide water to the extent they melt (on a net basis) or retreat. If they don&#039;t melt they can&#039;t provide water. 

Otherwise, Himalayan rivers have a very large summer maximum flow due to the Monsoon. Any change to summer melt will produce a change too small to be measured against the summer monsoon flow (flood).

This is an example of climate change being my local weather extrapolated globally - Where I live rivers are at their lowest in the summer, therefore rivers everywhere are at lowest in summer.

What is disturbing is that I have seen both these error made by so called climate experts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smokey,</p>
<p><i>the Himalayas (glaciers), which help to provide water for a sixth of mankind.</i></p>
<p>The Himalayan glaciers only provide water to the extent they melt (on a net basis) or retreat. If they don&#8217;t melt they can&#8217;t provide water. </p>
<p>Otherwise, Himalayan rivers have a very large summer maximum flow due to the Monsoon. Any change to summer melt will produce a change too small to be measured against the summer monsoon flow (flood).</p>
<p>This is an example of climate change being my local weather extrapolated globally &#8211; Where I live rivers are at their lowest in the summer, therefore rivers everywhere are at lowest in summer.</p>
<p>What is disturbing is that I have seen both these error made by so called climate experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip_B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip_B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed Darrell, interesting chart on glaciers indeed. Although no source for it.

Note the following,

Up until 1970 the chart shows that glaciers were accumulating ice. 

The rate of glacier melt is remarkable stable apart from a step change up in the mid-1990s, following Mt Pinatubo and preceding the 1998 super El Nino.

Volcanic eruptions result in a pronounced reduction in melt in the following year or so. Which lends weight to the argument that what is different climate-wise about the last few decades is that we are long overdue for a mag 7+ volcanic eruption.

The cumulative glacier loss plot is &#039;rhetorical device&#039; to impress those who do not understand basic statistics, and is there to decieve them into thinking there is an accelerating trend. When in fact there is no evidence of any significant trend (never mind accelerating). Just a step change in the mid 90s.

Chart referred to,

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg311/johnnyrook1/glacier_thicknessgraphNSIDC.gif

BTW, the accompanying article is typical Warmer rhetorical excess, with little scientific support (if this graph is typical of the article as a whole).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Darrell, interesting chart on glaciers indeed. Although no source for it.</p>
<p>Note the following,</p>
<p>Up until 1970 the chart shows that glaciers were accumulating ice. </p>
<p>The rate of glacier melt is remarkable stable apart from a step change up in the mid-1990s, following Mt Pinatubo and preceding the 1998 super El Nino.</p>
<p>Volcanic eruptions result in a pronounced reduction in melt in the following year or so. Which lends weight to the argument that what is different climate-wise about the last few decades is that we are long overdue for a mag 7+ volcanic eruption.</p>
<p>The cumulative glacier loss plot is &#8216;rhetorical device&#8217; to impress those who do not understand basic statistics, and is there to decieve them into thinking there is an accelerating trend. When in fact there is no evidence of any significant trend (never mind accelerating). Just a step change in the mid 90s.</p>
<p>Chart referred to,</p>
<p><a href="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg311/johnnyrook1/glacier_thicknessgraphNSIDC.gif" rel="nofollow">http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg311/johnnyrook1/glacier_thicknessgraphNSIDC.gif</a></p>
<p>BTW, the accompanying article is typical Warmer rhetorical excess, with little scientific support (if this graph is typical of the article as a whole).</p>
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