My first 1/4 mil week

Despite my having to cut back on posting and moderation to nights and weekends in order to devote more time to my livelihood during these economic down times, WUWT continues to grow. Today I reached another new milestone, nearly 1/4 million page views (248,116) in a single week. This is counted up to 00 GMT which is 4PM PST. Below is my WordPress traffic graph from about 5:30PM PST today:

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First I want to thank my moderation team for stepping in to manage the huge flood of comments we get, the regular contributors who offer interesting essays, and of course I thank you, my readers for your continued interest and visits. – Anthony

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Graeme Rodaughan
December 21, 2008 5:52 pm

I’m not at all suprised – an excellent effort by the Blog host, moderators and posters.
I also suspect that this is indicative of the growing popularity and acceptance of the Sceptic Meme on AGW.
Yes – the AGW proponents are right to be alarmed… but alarmed about what I say. Perhaps they need to be alarmed about the growth of Scepticism wrt AGW.
Now that’s unprecedented!

RK
December 21, 2008 6:07 pm

Your site deserves the traffic. Given the inept MSM reporting on global warming and the confusing science to the lay person, this site provides a vital perspective to the issue. I do not understand everything said on this site, but I get the theme. You have Al Gore and NASA to thank of course for your fame and fortune.

Novoburgo
December 21, 2008 6:07 pm

You’re welcome Anthony. Is the check in the mail??
OT: here in Maine a classic Nor’easter. Looking for about 12″ of snow, blustery winds, temps in the teens. Looks like a white Christmas.

December 21, 2008 6:20 pm

Does this mean that Santa didn’t leave us (er, you) an automatic spell-checker under the Christmas Tree?
Now, if he left you a chunk of coal instead, would that be a good thing?

Merry Christmas! And thank you.
REPLY: Spell check er for what? Posts or comments? – Anthony

Graeme Rodaughan
December 21, 2008 6:20 pm

I’m officially “Obsessed” by this site – all too enjoyable – excellent information plus entertainment.
P.s. I’m probably pushing the stats up…

Jon Jewett
December 21, 2008 6:26 pm

We thak you for your service.
These are days to count our blessings, and may God bless us, every one,
Especially Mr. Anthony Watts.
Steamboat Jack

Mike Bryant
December 21, 2008 6:28 pm

This is just tremendous. It’s a testament to your integrity and that of your team.
Congratulations to each of you. Anthony, the inspiration… the moderators who seem almost indistinguishable from you, Anthony in their even-handedness, and the article contributors who have brought even more of the same kind of insights into the news that we have all come to expect from your blog. I am happy and proud to be able to contribute in a small way.
Thanks,
Mike Bryant
PS Is there a list of the moderators and contributors somewhere?

Rick Sharp
December 21, 2008 6:35 pm

I wonder who the other 200,000 visitors were? Congrats Anthony, hope it helps you to make a buck or two.
REPLY: My goal never has been financial, except to be able to keep up with paying my monthly bills, which is why I had to scale back my weekday time here. – Anthony

Editor
December 21, 2008 6:45 pm

Graeme Rodaughan (18:20:56) :

Iā€™m officially ā€œObsessedā€ by this site – all too enjoyable – excellent information plus entertainment.
P.s. Iā€™m probably pushing the stats upā€¦

Me too. (And I hate me too posts.) Anthony, cutting back your activity doesn’t seem to have slowed things down, and I haven’t figured out how to spend less time here. I fear WUWT has reached a tipping point and may now be unstopable.
Sigh. What can I say but “Keep up the good work!”
-Ric

Cris
December 21, 2008 6:52 pm

Congratulations! What would the number be if adjusted to a baseline of say…2006?

December 21, 2008 6:59 pm

Anthony, has Climate Audit checked your hockey stick for validity? šŸ˜‰
Congratulations on the new milestone. You deserve a million hits per week for your dedication to getting the truth out.

December 21, 2008 7:01 pm

The chart shows a strong correlation with rising CO2 levels.

Traciatim
December 21, 2008 7:12 pm

Congrats on your traffic. I wanted to point out a little more anecdotal evidence on the fun weather news front. It would seem Environment Canada is claiming that for the first time since 1971 all of Canada may get a white Christmas this year.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/story.html?id=1092251

Graeme Rodaughan
December 21, 2008 7:27 pm

AGW Alarmists – be afraid – be very afraid…
In virtualspace – no one can hear you scream.

DaveM
December 21, 2008 7:32 pm

Mr. Watts carries an enormous burden that I do not envy him for. He has been a stalwart against a blizzard of myopic propaganda being peddled by some pretty slick folks. For his courage I extend my deepest thanks. I wish him continued success in his endeavours.

December 21, 2008 8:32 pm

Your posts are great – and your discussion threads are top notch. I love that all the people write in with all the technical analysis, and back and forth. Highest compliments and appreciation to you. And a Merry Christmas.

JimB
December 21, 2008 8:37 pm

Anthony,
Does that number now get “adjusted”?
And yes…it is certainly something to be celebrated.
You’ve brought clarity to many of us, and that’s no small task šŸ˜‰
JimB

Retired Engineer
December 21, 2008 8:52 pm

Anthony, you have proven the old addage about building a better mousetrap.
Congrats, and keep up the great work.
Merry and Happy to all.

Alan S. Blue
December 21, 2008 9:19 pm

Is this AMSR being “adjusted” to match NANSEN? Because the Arctic ice is just flatlining. I can get to the ‘most recent’ AMSR extent photos, but is there an easy way to do comparisons over time?
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

evanjones
Editor
December 21, 2008 10:17 pm

As a (relatively) “early adopter” I have greatly enjoyed watching this blog grow and prosper. But those surface stations are out to lunch. Anyone can see that.
Finding a CRN-1 site these days is a job for a climate Diogenes.

E.M.Smith
Editor
December 22, 2008 1:08 am

Let me join the chorus of congratulations! Good host, good party!
Heck, even the trolls can take some credit for helping you reach this milestone; I figure they account for about 1/4 of my postings cleaning up their, er, precipitation šŸ˜‰

Admin
December 22, 2008 1:17 am

congratulations Anthony

Purakanui
December 22, 2008 1:57 am

Congratulations Anthony; I’m sure that this is still only the beginning! Thank you for everything that you have done.
Since New Zealand is one of the first places in the world to see a new day, Merry Christmas from the future.
In a small way, we are helping to create the future here. Australia has announced minimal concessions towards ‘carbon reduction’; 15 percent, but only five if there is not a global agreement. This with a leftish leaning government. Rent-a-crowd began sand-bagging government offices against the ‘inevitable’ sea level rise and we could hear the wailing this side of the Tasman.
A change of government here has led to a thorough-going review of the previous (leftish) government’s Emission Trading scheme. The rhetoric of a ‘carbon-neutral’ nation is now formally dead and the need to ‘lead the world’ has been quietly but publicly dropped. Now we are to be careful followers. There is a degree of panic among the watermelons.
Hopefully, this is the future for much more of the world.
Happy Christmas everyone.

Robinson
December 22, 2008 2:00 am

Why didn’t you start the graph Y axis at 140,000 to make the upswing look more dramatic?

Vincent Guerrini Jr
December 22, 2008 2:08 am

The reason you keep getting more hits from educated people is that the truth will always win especially in science! Have a merry xmas and happy new year

Vincent Guerrini Jr
December 22, 2008 2:13 am

re artic ice its flatlining so what… it probably means nothing. Antartic is is slightly above.. so what… as well, just normal cycles

MartinGAtkins
December 22, 2008 3:24 am

Alan S. Blue (21:19:02) :

Is this AMSR being ā€œadjustedā€ to match NANSEN? Because the Arctic ice is just flatlining. I can get to the ā€˜most recentā€™ AMSR extent photos, but is there an easy way to do comparisons over time?

This should give you what you want. Daily Arctic Sea Ice Maps. http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh

Greg Smith
December 22, 2008 3:30 am

Congratulations Anthony. Your site is the first I go to on any day. Always witty, always informative and without the anger i perceive on others. May ye go forth and multiply!

Matthew
December 22, 2008 4:29 am

I am not surprised by your success here. Your site is a fantastic trove of information. I come here daily.

Gordon Smith
December 22, 2008 4:53 am

Thank you for your efforts..Since chancing on this site I can now hold my own when I declare my doubts with those certain of their truth..I think I have converted at least 10 people with reason..keep up the good work..The truth will set you free..(and us)

Bernie
December 22, 2008 5:25 am

Anthony:
Excellent blog. Informative and reasonably civilized.
Many thanks for the hard work.
Merry Christmas to all.

Craig D. Lattig
December 22, 2008 5:32 am

Anthony-You have created a wonderful and much needed site…that has attracted an amazing group of participating members…always interesting, frequently funny and usually informative. Keep plugging away and this house of cards will come down around the AGWers, one card at a time… and to all of the wonderful folks here, Have a wonderful Holiday Season and a very Happy New Year.
Thank you one and all…cdl

christopher booker
December 22, 2008 5:45 am

Anthony, many of us here in the UK would join in congratulating you on your personal ‘hockey stick’. You are making a very important contribution to the debate on an issue of world importance. Please keep going at a time when the balance of that debate is so significantly shifting, not least thanks to your efforts (and those of Mother Nature). Yet again this week I paid semi-playful tribute to you in my column in the London Sunday Telegraph – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3883550/Facts-melted-by-global-warming.html#comments
and a very happy Christmas to you and yours.

Paul G.
December 22, 2008 5:49 am

Congrats, love the site, you deserve the numbers.
Lets ā€˜NAILā€™ Al Gore, and all the other fairy tale writers!
Keep up the great work.

Robinson
December 22, 2008 6:18 am

As always an excellent column it was too Mr Booker.

December 22, 2008 6:25 am

Congratulations for your great crusade!!

Pat
December 22, 2008 6:44 am

Congratulations from Chicago, where we currently have -5 degrees F. of global warming this morning! I read your site often, learn from it and love it. Thank you for your hard work!

David Ball
December 22, 2008 7:02 am

Adding my thanks to all the others. You have gone a long way to dispelling the “Myth-conceptions”. Pun intended, ….

TerryBixler
December 22, 2008 7:22 am

Congratulations Anthony, have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year.
Hyon and Terry

Ed Scott
December 22, 2008 7:42 am

So goes Callyfornia, so goes the Nation.
For a “window on the future,” listen to this 12 minute, 46 second video clip from 60 Minutes, dated 21 December 2008, coincidentally, the date of the winter solstice.
The governor is a hypocrite in the order of Algore and says the recent fires in California are due to global warming.
Schwarzenegger’s Green Challenge
California Governor Says He’ll Stick To Environmental Plans, Despite Economic Crisis
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/19/60minutes/main4677334.shtml

Arthur Glass
December 22, 2008 7:55 am

There is an old church a few miles from my home that was the site of a skirmish in the American Revolution. Now, the most popular hymnal in the 18th century was edited by one Isaac Watts, and when the Patriots ran out of paper to tamp down their gunpowder, they made do by tearing pages out of the hymnals and using those. Their battle-cry was, ‘Give ’em Watts, boys! Give ’em Watts’
I propose that ‘Give ’em Watts!’ be made the official motto of climate sceptics.
Long may the banner of this excellent and informative blog wave!

Ed Scott
December 22, 2008 8:03 am
Phillip Bratby
December 22, 2008 8:14 am

Excellent work Anthony. I always visit here to read the lively debate and truthful insights, void of politically correct nonsense.

December 22, 2008 8:47 am

Always fresh and interesting, with few of the ad hominem attacks that certain dogmatic factions appear to so quick to resort to. Well moderated and informative. Great blog Anthony. Possibly even iconic.

December 22, 2008 9:02 am

I really enjoy this blog. You deserve your success–well done, and keep on going!

Dill Weed
December 22, 2008 9:18 am

I did my part.
Dill Weed

Power Engineer
December 22, 2008 9:19 am

Congrats on the 1/4 week!
this is an interesting article tho
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/19/60minutes/main4677334.shtml
hmm…wild fires…does anyone know if they will happen all the time wether we are here or not????? *question of the day* (sarc)

Bob Levinstein
December 22, 2008 9:45 am

Anthony:
First, thank you and congrats. You deserve the success.
Second, I have an unrelated–and probably a dumb–question and couldn’t find any other way to contact you directly so I’m posting here. I’m having trouble understanding how your post where you cite four data sources (including GISS) showing significant cooling:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/
jibes with GISS’ claim that 2007 was the second warmest year on record:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/08/01/giss.html
I know you’re busy, but can you answer or at least point me to where I can find the answer?
Thanks again for the help and for all of your hard work fighting the good fight.
Cheers!

David Gladstone
December 22, 2008 10:30 am

Congrats, Anthony! When a little prosperity reaches me, I will send some shekels, so you can keep going.:]
d

Adam Soereg
December 22, 2008 10:39 am

Looks like a hockey stick graph, with a reversed end point…
Excellent work, let I congratulate for your efforts and achievements.
Regards from Hungary,
a daily WUWT reader

Richard deSousa
December 22, 2008 10:44 am

MartinGAtkins:
The link you posted was eye opening!!!
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh

Pierre Gosselin
December 22, 2008 11:13 am

Joe Bastardi:
“Major cold wave to hit Europe”
http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp?partner=accuweather
With an anecdote or two about the NOAA and UKMET.
Merry Christmas everybody!!

Jim B Canada
December 22, 2008 11:24 am

Anthony,
I for one would be happy to see some google ads on the page if it augmented your salary and allowed you to spend more time of this excellent site!

E.M.Smith
Editor
December 22, 2008 11:51 am

Heard on the Biz news – worst weather (coldest, snowiest) during the shopping season in 20 years in the North East.
This is an important metric, what retail stocks do, like Macy’s M or Penny’s JCP, are directly driven by the weather during the Christmas shopping season. It is watched very closely by retail stock traders. Fewer folks go out to shop in the cold and snow; and Lord help the retailer who stocks to few (or two many) warm coats in cold (or warm) weather… M is down ~10% mid day on this news, for example.

Steven Hill
December 22, 2008 12:39 pm

We now have the lost ice levels since 2002 for this period of time. Anyone care to speak on this topic? Is it possible the the area that is frozen is thicker, even though it’s less area?
scratching head, is Gore correct?

Steven Hill
December 22, 2008 12:46 pm

Spelling errors above, sorry. Lowest Arctic Ice levels

Fred Gams
December 22, 2008 12:46 pm

Actually, you’re short of a 1/4 mil… šŸ™‚

Steven Hill
December 22, 2008 12:56 pm

This http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/ice-area-and-extent-in-arctic shows even less ice area. How can ice be melting? I think this data is flawed and fixed.

pyromancer76
December 22, 2008 1:04 pm

Thanks, Anthony. When people have access to the truth, we will turn to it. I hope you are getting more and more subscribers, too. Even $10 per month would be helpful, imo — like a print subscription, but better than most I take anymore. In fact, where are the good ones these days? The internet has taken over intelligent inquiry, and I can access Wattsup on a holiday trip in Japan. Please continue to keep us informed and entertained — your commenters are among the best, too.

December 22, 2008 1:59 pm

Congratulations Anthony, and thank you for your great contributions to truth. I especially appreciate the science around here, and hope you are able to keep the blog going at least until the main stream media figures out what is happening.

savo
December 22, 2008 2:05 pm

EM Smith M: “…is down ~10% mid day on this news, for example” er … aren’t you guys in a recession? Wouldn’t that account for the drop.
Anyone noticed on RC THAT they have a big picture of what causes climate change on their banner?
Merry Christmas Anthony. Thanks for all your concern, care and “question answering ability”

Allen63
December 22, 2008 2:05 pm

Yours is one of the only two (2) climate sites I visit every day (I have 22 bookmarked).
In my eyes, your site is heavier on interesting “data” — some developed by your project. After reading climate sites a few months, I have read all the commentary I need. Now only data and/or mathematical analysis (accompanied by relevant comments) will do — your site is good for that.
Most sites seem to pick a side, and this one is no different. I appreciate it when sites do not demean the opposition’s character or intelligence — but, rather, take their science to task by providing concrete data and analysis. Given the “skeptic” orientation of this site, your posts seem restrained enough most of the time.
Hope you stay in business.

Logan
December 22, 2008 2:20 pm

Yes, this is a great science site, and I can understand the exclusion of politics. The resources section does not even have a link to the Petition Project, for example. However…if skeptical scientists avoid politics, the new Lysenkoism will be unopposed, and the debate-is-over narrative will rule.
For Gore and the Gorons, great commentary that reaches about one in ten thousand citizens (if that many) is irrelevant. A new Dalton Minimum will eventually make things clear, but there will be a lot of economic damage before that time. The variability-due-to-AGW propaganda will last for a few more years.
It should be obvious by now that AGW is the great hope of politicians who want to control all economic activity. AGW is not an intellectual error; it is a deliberate and effective political program.
So, while it is appropriate to avoid politics here, skeptics had better do more than sign petitions that have zero political impact. Up to now, the rational side is talking to itself.

JimB
December 22, 2008 2:20 pm

I see from a comment at Climate Aduit that the sea ice has already plateaued this winter:
http://www.nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png

Tim L
December 22, 2008 2:28 pm

I just looked hard at the two maps and…………..
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=12&fd=21&fy=1980&sm=12&sd=22&sy=2008
Dose anyone else see the “snow cover” touching on some of the isle lands and there seams to be an isle land on the top right that is not on the left map!!!!
there would be a lot less “ICE” if it is considered “snow on land” ….
Thank You A.W. the hits will have to be your reward for now, as my grandma use to say
thanks for now till your better paid!!!!!!

Steven Goddard
December 22, 2008 2:38 pm

Funny how people are flocking to news sources where they can read the truth, and jumping ship from the traditional sources of propaganda. Perhaps the Internet will protect free speech and democracy through this current dark period. We can all hope and pitch in.
Great work Anthony.

Frederic S
December 22, 2008 2:39 pm

Continue, Anthony, we read you even in France

Tom in Florida
December 22, 2008 3:05 pm

The Peanut Gallery (at least this member) loves this site. Informative, probing, sometimes humerous and always civil. Thanks to the posters that allow us regular folks to do our own research from links you provide. Great job everyone.

Tom Miller
December 22, 2008 3:28 pm

I work as a professional in protecting the enviroment (Park Ranger) and I really like this site. One of the things that you provide is alot of good data in re. to AGW. It is so clear and simple that anyone who reads this site can easily decide for themselves what the truth is. Once again, thanks.
Tom Miller

Steven Hill
December 22, 2008 4:25 pm

For the first time this year, NBC was talking about all the cold weather in the US right now. I was SHOCKED!

Tim L
December 22, 2008 5:50 pm

Bob they use the skewed time frame to make up the answer they want to “prove agw”
Bob Levinstein (09:45:36) :
I have an unrelatedā€“and probably a dumbā€“question and couldnā€™t find any other way to contact you directly so Iā€™m posting here. Iā€™m having trouble understanding how your post where you cite four data sources (including GISS) showing significant cooling:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/
jibes with GISSā€™ claim that 2007 was the second warmest year on record:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/08/01/giss.html

answer by henry
19 02 2008 henry (19:46:39) : “30 year time frame”
I think that would be 71-2000 (which should still cover the ā€œmodern global warmingā€ period).
Remember, GISS consistantly shows as the ā€œhottestā€ because of the reference period (51-80, I believe), while HadCRU and NCDC use later time periods.
Bob I hope this helps

Tim L
December 22, 2008 5:51 pm

Opp s sorry for the line outs LOL

old construction worker
December 22, 2008 5:54 pm

Again, Congratulation
Please, bloggers, do what I did
DONATE
DONATE
DONATE

old construction worker
December 22, 2008 5:59 pm

And write your representatives.

December 22, 2008 6:02 pm

I have absolutely no interest in science, I only come here to boost the traffic figures.
Delighted to have been a tiny speck on your magnificent map Mr Watts.
Might not be back in the next couple of days, so I would like to wish you, Mr Watts, and all those who have informed and entertained me so well since I first arrived here a few months ago a very Merry Christmas.

Pamela Gray
December 22, 2008 6:09 pm

Anthony, it seems that we are in need of a blog post regarding Arctic areas, Arctic weather and temperature, Arctic ocean currents, ice behavior, data noise, etc. There have been many, many questions about this “stall” that can be easily explored and explained. I have posted several comments but the topic still arises. Is there a guest blogger you can turn to for a post on the subject?

Wally
December 22, 2008 7:41 pm

Congrats on the site visits.
Looked at the ice data on http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=12&fd=11&fy=2008&sm=12&sd=21&sy=2008 and chopped out the view for Hudson Bay and west Greenland, North Atlantic and the Bearing straits.
It looks like ice grew in Hudson Bay and West of Greenland, moved around but about the same area (by eye) in the bearing straits and fell back some in the Eastern North Atlantic. See image at http://gallery.me.com/wally#100002/Ice%2012-11_12-21&bgcolor=black
So a flat curve for total ice does not appear out of line. If you note from winter of 08 there was some strong dips in the total ice area.

giovanniworld
December 22, 2008 7:45 pm

Major kudos!
I hope in some little way I have helped you get some of these numbers. I link to this site all the time when I’m arguing AGW with ecofascists.
In their honor, I made up an Eco game… http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/2008/12/21/new-eco-game-hits-the-net/
Gio-

Ed Scott
December 22, 2008 8:10 pm

A word from Dr. Tim Ball.
————————————————————-
Completely inadequate IPCC models produce the ultimate deception about man made global warming
By Dr. Tim Ball Monday, December 22, 2008
The only place where CO2 is causing temperature increase is in the IPCC computer models
http://canadafreepress.com/printpage.php
“… the unproven hypothesis that human produced CO2 is causing warming and or climate change. The evidence is based solely on the output of 18 computer climate models selected by the IPCC. There are a multitude of problems including the fact that every time they run them they produce different results. They use an average of all the runs. The IPCC then take the average results of the 18 models and average them for the results in their Reports.”
” Atmosphere and oceans are fluids governed by non-linear rather than linear equations. These equations have unpredictability or randomness – also known as chaos ā€“ it explains why the models get different results every time they are run. These problems well known outside of climate science were specifically acknowledged in the IPCC Third Assessment Report (TAR), ā€œIn climate research and modeling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.ā€ (TAR, p.774.)”
“It is hard to imagine a better example of Beadleā€™s axiom paraphrased as follows, ā€œHalf the work done by the IPCC is to make things appear what they are not.ā€

philincalifornia
December 22, 2008 8:11 pm

Great site Anthony. I’m personally responsible for some of that uptick in traffic, and I have to apologize to some of your mods for testing the limits of anti-AGW vocabulary.
Here’s my Christmas message to you. Santa is alive and well, and his kidnapping by Greenpeace was a (another) hoax ….
http://gpsinformation.info/main/merryxmas.swf

hunter
December 22, 2008 10:32 pm

Congratulations. As AGW continues to fall under inevitable critifcal scrutiny, this site will only earn more traffic.

PeteM
December 23, 2008 6:00 am

E.M.Smith (11:51:20) :
“Heard on the Biz news – worst weather (coldest, snowiest) during the shopping season in 20 years in the North East.
This is an important metric, what retail stocks do, like Macyā€™s M or Pennyā€™s JCP, are directly driven by the weather during the Christmas shopping season. It is watched very closely by retail stock traders. Fewer folks go out to shop in the cold and snow; and Lord help the retailer who stocks to few (or two many) warm coats in cold (or warm) weatherā€¦ M is down ~10% mid day on this news, for example.”
Move South … its still a mild and (grey climate) but no need to heating … not seen decent snow or ice for 10 years .,… but at least this year spring plants have had the decency to wait until January to appear.

PeteM
December 23, 2008 6:07 am

PeteM (06:00:32) :
And congratulations to the website for achieving a high audience.

December 23, 2008 6:10 am

philincalifornia’s little present above is really nice and appropriate.
Thanks again for the best blog in the world – to date. May it may itself redundant as quickly as possible! BTW, if you want to learn some of the basics of Climate Science and the debate – visit us here and in our forum that has grown in no small measure due to Anthony’s pioneer work. In a year I’ve changed from 200% committed AGW to… well… humbler, wiser, much more scientifically knowledgeable, and still hopeful. Thank you community too.

December 23, 2008 6:28 am

Frederic S (14:39:56) :
Continue, Anthony, we read you even in France
I can attest to that. I live in France too. This is one of first sites I look at in the morning.
Happy New Year to all

Pamela Gray
December 23, 2008 7:52 am

For those of you still worried about the lack of ice advance between Greenland and Northern Europe/Russia, check out the Jet Stream patterns for the Arctic area. As we all know, the Jet Stream has dipped way down South, bringing frigid weather all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. Because of that dip, what loops down must loop up. And indeed it does, right up the draw between Greenland and Northern Europe/Russia. This is no small matter. The Jet Stream is as strong as I have seen it through this draw towards the North pole. That kind of Jet Stream behavior is strong enough to push a mountain of ice as far as it can go. Once the up-loop Jet Stream straightens out, and it will eventually, I believe the ice extent will begin to advance again. By the way, the Jet Stream on the other side encourages outflow of Arctic air through the Bering Straight. So it appears that the Jet Stream can explain a lot right now. If I had ocean temps (and it goes without saying, accurate air temps) for the warm and cold currents up there we could wrap this conundrum up for Christmas.

Ellie
December 23, 2008 8:54 am

Thanks Pamela, that makes sense to me and is quite obvious on jet stream maps. I thought there had to be somthing like this involved.
Great site Anthony. I too am obsessed and spend way too much time reading/learning from it. Do my best to increase your numbers by spreading the URL and my enthusiasm for it.
Happy Christmas to all.

Steven Hill
December 23, 2008 9:02 am

Thanks Pamela! Merry Christmas to all here and a Happy New Year!

Leon Brozyna
December 23, 2008 4:04 pm

Pamela Gray (07:52:39)
Good job on trying to explain the puzzle. When I saw the plots at NANSEN, with ice extent decreasing while area remained mostly flat, I figured it had to be strong storms/wind/current holding back the expansion of ice extent with ice being compacted.
Looks like everyone’s been puzzled by this little oddity, even the folks at NSIDC. Here’s a posting at Roger Pielke Sr.’s website with feedback by NSIDC’s Mark Serreze. Seems they’ve been checking around to confirm the data they’ve been getting.
http://climatesci.org/2008/12/23/update-by-mark-serreze-on-current-sea-ice-coverage/
The stop in expansion that began Dec 10 seems to have finally ended. Data at IARC-JAXA is finally showing increase in the AMSR-E Sea Ice Extent, beginning Dec 21 and increasing even more Dec 22.
And for everybody out there, have a very Merry Christmas!

E.M.Smith
Editor
December 23, 2008 11:48 pm

savo (14:05:33) :
EM Smith M: ā€œā€¦is down ~10% mid day on this news, for exampleā€ er ā€¦ arenā€™t you guys in a recession? Wouldnā€™t that account for the drop.

The recession accounts for the long drop of the year before the news day.
The 10% in one day (mid day, it ended a bit over 11%) is all news / event driven. This is off topic, but day trades are all news and event driven. Long trend trades are driven by major cyclical shifts like recessions.
Stock prices are fractal, you have to pick your time period and the time period specific factors that drive that period. For example, during boom years you would have a long term (secular) up trend to a retailer like Macy’s. Cold Christmas shopping season news would STILL cause a day-trade down, it would just ‘correct’ to the upside in following days.